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What Airline Ordered The Most 727s?  
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12613 times:

I am guessing it had to be United, American or Eastern.

Now, I'm only talking about factory delivered aircraft, and this can be broken down into -100 or -200


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By the way, I can't find any Eastern 727 in the original livery. How many aircraft were delivered with that scheme?


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User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8341 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12585 times:
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probably AA or United.

User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5937 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12594 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Thread starter):
Now, I'm only talking about factory delivered aircraft

Well if you are only talking about 727's delivered directly from Boeing:

United 230 (88 721, 38 721C, 29 722 & 75 722A)
American 167
Eastern 163
Delta 116

Keep in mind that allot US airlines augmented their 727 fleet with aircraft from other airlines ie AA got some from BN, DL operated 727s from quite a few other airlines ect..



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12512 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 2):
Delta 116

Delta operated 116 -232s? WOW had no idea it was that high



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5937 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12495 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 3):
Delta operated 116 -232s? WOW had no idea it was that high

They actually flew quite a few more than that....those were just the ones delivered directly from Boeing.



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User currently offlineCV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12494 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 3):
Delta operated 116 -232s? WOW had no idea it was that high

DL operated a total of 184 727's, with 21 from NE (1972).

http://www.deltamuseum.org/M_Educati...ltaHistory_Aircraft_Boeing_727.htm


User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4992 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12448 times:

DL was kind of late to the 727 game, weren't they? I think I first started seeing DL 727's around 1972 or so when most airlines had them by 1967 or so.


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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5937 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12432 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 6):
DL was kind of late to the 727 game, weren't they?

DLs first 727's came from the merger with Northeast...August 1st 1972...they didn't operate them prior to that time.



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12409 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 4):
They actually flew quite a few more than that....those were just the ones delivered directly from Boeing.

Well, yeah, the Northeast, Western, Pan Am....etc...just didn't realize they had ordered that many from Boeing.



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5937 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12388 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 6):
so when most airlines had them by 1967 or so.

United Air Lines: 29th October 1963
Eastern Airlines: 15th November 1963
American Airlines: 17th January 1964
TWA: 21st April 1964
National Airlines: 21st October 1964
Northwest Airlines: 12-Nov-1964
PSA: 06-Apr-1965
Pan Am: 22-Dec-1965



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6422 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 12362 times:

Continental, Allegheny, Braniff??


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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5937 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 12288 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8):
.just didn't realize they had ordered that many from Boeing.

Yup....they took delivery of their first 727 from Boeing on 23-Jan-1973 and their last on 12-Nov-1981.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8):
Pan Am....etc

Actually most if not all of the 24 727s they acquired from PA were not originally ordered by PA...they came from a bunch of different operators.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 10):
Continental, Allegheny, Braniff??

Continental 51
Braniff 97

Allegheny just took a couple direct from Boeing...the rest were second hand or acquired via their mergers with PSA and Piedmont.

If you would like to know more Boeing has a wonderful tool on their website that lets you search for orders and deliveries.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...definedselection.cfm&pageid=m15527



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User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2839 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 12168 times:

Didn't Pan Am get a couple of Ozark's 727s before Ozark ever operated them? Not sure I'd call those second hand since if memory serves me right they never operated a route for Ozark.


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19574 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 12104 times:

How big was NW's 727 fleet? I doubt it was over 200, but it seemed pretty large.

User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5937 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 12088 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 13):
How big was NW's 727 fleet?

85 delivered direct from Boeing....I'm not sure if they took any second hand 727's



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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3519 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 12030 times:
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Quoting United1 (Reply 14):

NW picked up Republics in the merger



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User currently offline4everRC From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 12025 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 14):
I'm not sure if they took any second hand 727's

I don't know any exact numbers, but NW got some through their acquisition of Republic 1. RC's 727s were a combination of aircraft delivered direct from Boeing and second hand from the merger with Hughes Airwest.



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5937 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11986 times:

Quoting 4everRC (Reply 16):
I don't know any exact numbers, but NW got some through their acquisition of Republic 1. RC's 727s were a combination of aircraft delivered direct from Boeing and second hand from the merger with Hughes Airwest.

Forgot about them....if the tool on Boeing site is right that's around 20 frames so NW operated over a hundred at one point.



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10395 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11963 times:

I'm not sure what the total number that we had at DL was, considering the factory fresh ones, the ones from NE, WA and PA and not counting the -95s from NE, but I seem to remember that ship #546 was the 1000th one that was delivered to any airline from Boeing. It seems that there was another milestone 727 that we took delivery of, but not really sure about that.


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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6372 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11929 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 6):
DL was kind of late to the 727 game, weren't they? I think I first started seeing DL 727's around 1972 or so when most airlines had them by 1967 or so.

And, in true Delta fashion, the last operator of the type in passenger service in the US (well, counting the majors, not guys like Champion Air). They were still flying 727's in the early 2000's  



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11855 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 17):
Quoting 4everRC (Reply 16):
I don't know any exact numbers, but NW got some through their acquisition of Republic 1. RC's 727s were a combination of aircraft delivered direct from Boeing and second hand from the merger with Hughes Airwest.

Forgot about them....if the tool on Boeing site is right that's around 20 frames so NW operated over a hundred at one point.

Republic took delivery of 7 new 722s from Boeing. They also inherited 8 from the merger with Hughes Airwest, plus 3 originally delivered to Ansett Australia and were operated by Wien Air Alaska before going to Republic.

Looks like all 18 of those aircraft went to NW as part of the Republic merger, but NW appears to have leased out the 3 ex-Ansett aircraft and they had many subsequent operators. Not sure if they were ever operated by NW.

NW also acquired 9 ex-Eastern 722s in 1992 after Eastern went bust, and 4 ex-Braniff in 1982-83 after their demise.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 11844 times:

How many did AS take and or operate?


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User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1334 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11815 times:

Sad, isn't it, that many of the above mentioned airlines are no longer with us, and those who are no longer operate the mighty 3-holer beauty.

Ah well, at least I've got a jumpseat on one a couple of days from now, going into somewhere hot and dusty and the flying is a bit more ..... inspired  



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User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11804 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 21):
How many did AS take and or operate?

7

Most of these types of questions can be answered at:
http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...definedselection.cfm&pageid=m15527

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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 11759 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 23):
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 21):
How many did AS take and or operate?

7

The question was how many did they take and/or operate. While they only took delivery of 7 new 727s directly from Boeing (3 -100C combis and 4 -200s), they operated a total of 57, acquired from a wide variety of other carriers.


25 Post contains images zippyjet : You can say that again. The widget had an aversion to Boeing until they took over Northeast and inherited their "yellow birds" It wasn't really an av
26 Viscount724 : As a sidenote, Northeast was the launch customer and first operator of the 727-200.
27 cokepopper : Don't forget Delta also received some 727''s from EA around '91
28 mayor : Actually, they didn't........DL started service with the 747 in 1970 and we were flying 727s, both -95s and -295s from NE in 1972, but didn't start f
29 Post contains images Viscount724 : Plus 17 Convair 880s.between 1960-62 and 1973-74.
30 mayor : Actually, it was between 1960 and 1973.........no gap inbetween Here's a chart of DL's a/c that they've had, over the years (no fleet numbers) but it
31 Viscount724 : Sorry, I didn't intend to show that there was a gap, just that they were delivered between 1960 and 1962 and disposed of in 1973/74.[Edited 2012-09-2
32 Post contains links DL_Mech : 546 was the final factory delivery......474 was the "1000th." In 2000, we used the wingtip of 474 to repair this plane: http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationq
33 mayor : Did #546 have a plaque on the bulkhead, next to the cockpit door, that stated this? I seem to remember that, there.
34 DL_Mech : I never saw a plaque on 546, but 306 had a nice one from the factory stating "1000th" 737 delivered.
35 JohnJ : I thought the final factory delivered passenger 727 went to USAir. Did this plane make its way to Delta?
36 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : No, never operated by DL. View Large View MediumPhoto © Gary Claridge-king
37 DL_Mech : Sorry, I should have clarified... Final factory delivery to Delta
38 JohnJ : Ah, understood. Thanks for the clarification. I remember the DL 727s well; I flew them frequently SFO-DFW back when I was commuting between SFO and FL
39 737-990 : On the international side I remember Mexicana used to boast they had the largest 727 fleet outside of the United States. Looking at the Boeing site I
40 spartanmjf : I am being dense on this one - more dense than normal - how would FedEx stack up?
41 United1 : Directly from Boeing they only took 15 new ones...everything else was second hand.
42 mayor : I doubt that any of the 727s that FedEx had were new, but used and converted to freighters.
43 DL_Mech : Oddly enough, the first factory produced 727-200Fs were the only factory delivered 727s to FX and the last 727s off the line. I've seen one up close,
44 tb727 : They had them delivered directly from Boeing, including the last off the line if I am not mistaken. Most were conversions second hand though.
45 Post contains images n901wa : I forget, but didn't Delta also get some ExEAL 727-200adv during the fire sale that got us the L-1011s. I could have sworn the EAL 727 had the 3 step
46 Post contains images zippyjet : Connies in the 50's? Never could find a picture of a DL Conny. I believe I learned from A-Net that DL was going to lease or buy used Connies from Pan
47 DL_Mech : Yes, the -225s had the three position start lever and a different fire warning system (Systron Donner?). The real oddball was the DL shuttle -243 wit
48 IMissPiedmont : PA did indeed take the 2 727s that Ozark ordered direct from Boeing. At least one was painted in full Ozark colors and it looked good.
49 Tomassjc : I seem to recall when I worked for MX that they flew around 50 727-200s, including the leased birds, at one point in the mid to late 80s. I remember
50 burnsie28 : Are you talking normal passenger service? NW flew charter flights on the 727 until late 2003, the last "normal" flight though was January 7, 2003, DE
51 Post contains links and images n901wa : Thanks fellow DL_Mech I thought we had sme 225s. I forgot about the shuttle 727 with the nose brakes. Never got to change one with brakes. zippyjet so
52 bigbird : Even though Fed Ex did not start operating 727s until the early 70s and only received 15 newly delivered directly from Boeing I think that they will h
53 Post contains images mayor : DL got Connies from Chicago & Southern when they merged in '53. DL also had 4 that they bought from PA and operated from '56 until '58 and were so
54 American 767 : You are forgetting Air France. Air France was a major 727 operator in Europe, during the 70s and 80s. Air France flew the 727 from the late 60s until
55 Post contains images zippyjet : Thank you both for the info I'll check out the DL site when I get to my computer. I totally forgot about C & S. When I think of C & S I think
56 Deltal1011man : just a note. Delta's first 8X aircraft were 82s, later converted to 88s. IIRC it was 901-908.
57 B727FA : RE: the 14 factory to NW. I worked on 281/282US sister ships years later at Sunworld, I believe only 281 was ex-Kiwi. 282 was???? Anyone?
58 Deltal1011man : I think they were done flying for Delta after that flight (minus the flight to the junk yard) I don't think Delta kept any around for anything though
59 mayor : Looks like DL procured their Connies mostly to fly from Florida to New York. The book does not indicate that they were well worn and saw limited serv
60 FlyMKG : The FedEx 722Fs still have all the windows plugged. They are however missing both aft service doors and the forward service door. The only traditiona
61 zippyjet : Thank you for the information. However, I thought DL didn't have "CAB" approval to fly the lucrative New York-Miami route. I thought that route was s
62 mayor : Sorry.......I should have said that they procured those Connies from PA to run from the "south" to New York
63 FX1816 : Although USAir did operate former PSA 727's they actually acquired them via Piedmont and not the merger with PSA, the 727's were gone from PSA before
64 Post contains links and images DL_Mech : Ex PA shuttle aircraft, but leased from CO. Part of the reason for the DL 727 retirement was the deadline for installation of the hardened cockpit do
65 DL_Mech : If FX flies them until 2015, then they will beat UA by about a year. UA 1964-2001 FX 1977-2015?
66 MEA-707 : Iran Air operate 727s nonstop since 1965 and counting! Northwest had them from 1964 to 2003= 39 years I fear that FedEx won't pass them
67 Post contains links and images ZANL188 : Last 727F & last 727 built... I see window frames... View Large View MediumPhoto © Matthew Wallman - Jetwash Images
68 tb727 : Yes. I've been flying an ex-EA bird around all week, well month now, and it's the odd ball of the fleet for those items.
69 DL_Mech : I stand corrected.....Now where are those memory supplement pills.........
70 Post contains images mayor : But then you gotta REMEMBER to take them
71 727LOVER : Thanx for all the answers, guys. Glad to see so many still love the 727. Someone was asking about NW. I dont know about the -100, but NW had 57 -251s
72 type-rated : And NW had the 727 years before the RC merger/buyout. I first saw my first NW 727 in 1969.
73 Polot : That is an ex-Western plane. Western was leasing it from ILFC (I believe since delivery).
74 Post contains links and images Viscount724 : The only A.net photo: View Large View MediumPhoto © Bevin Shively Better photo here: Ex-Western. Must have originally been ordered by leasing compan
75 zippyjet : [TUBE]L3cNh0azmas[/TUBE] I really appreciated the 727. Especially since I didn't get to fly again until 15 years later. The Reagan 80's were a looong
76 FlyMKG : The 2S2Fs also have the three position start levers. FlyMKG
77 milesrich : DL had Connies twice, the L-649's upgraded to 749's from C&S that were sold to TW and leased to PNA in 1954 as the DC-7's were delivered and four
78 skymiler : I flew on this ship several times -- not only was there an annotation painted on the fuselage, but there was a small plaque on the wall at the boardi
79 mayor : I can't remember but I wonder if ship #474, the actual 1000th 727 delivered, had a plaque, also?
80 Flyingsottsman : What about Lufthansa didnt they have quite a few 727s aswell, if you are going to include European airlines.
81 skymiler : Yes, indeed, just inside the boarding door. I caught this ship several times -- in fact I remember making a last minute flight switch from AA to DL o
82 Post contains links deltacto : N831L was one of the 727's acquired from Western It was a 727-2Q8 2Q8 is the Boeing Customer Code for ILFC http://www.airlinecodes.co.uk/boeing.asp h
83 BoeingGuy : Yep, PSA phased our their 727s by 1984 and the ill-fated US gutting of PSA was in 1988. I believe PSA was one of the first, if not the first, airline
84 type-rated : Those were the days, weren't they? Day coach tickets became night first class, you could take almost any indirect routing you wanted to as long as yo
85 skycub : A few notes (some of which may have already been mentioned) about final 727 flights.... Northwest Airlines Final scheduled flight: Flight 560 Denver-M
86 Post contains links Viscount724 : Video coverage of the last 2 TWA flights STL-MSY-STL. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydfsPlNIMw0
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