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What Airline Ordered The Most 727s?  
User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 17
Posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 12579 times:

I am guessing it had to be United, American or Eastern.

Now, I'm only talking about factory delivered aircraft, and this can be broken down into -100 or -200


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By the way, I can't find any Eastern 727 in the original livery. How many aircraft were delivered with that scheme?


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User currently onlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8287 posts, RR: 7
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12551 times:
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probably AA or United.

User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12560 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Thread starter):
Now, I'm only talking about factory delivered aircraft

Well if you are only talking about 727's delivered directly from Boeing:

United 230 (88 721, 38 721C, 29 722 & 75 722A)
American 167
Eastern 163
Delta 116

Keep in mind that allot US airlines augmented their 727 fleet with aircraft from other airlines ie AA got some from BN, DL operated 727s from quite a few other airlines ect..



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 17
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12478 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 2):
Delta 116

Delta operated 116 -232s? WOW had no idea it was that high



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12461 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 3):
Delta operated 116 -232s? WOW had no idea it was that high

They actually flew quite a few more than that....those were just the ones delivered directly from Boeing.



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User currently offlineCV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1124 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12460 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 3):
Delta operated 116 -232s? WOW had no idea it was that high

DL operated a total of 184 727's, with 21 from NE (1972).

http://www.deltamuseum.org/M_Educati...ltaHistory_Aircraft_Boeing_727.htm


User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4952 posts, RR: 19
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12414 times:

DL was kind of late to the 727 game, weren't they? I think I first started seeing DL 727's around 1972 or so when most airlines had them by 1967 or so.


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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12398 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 6):
DL was kind of late to the 727 game, weren't they?

DLs first 727's came from the merger with Northeast...August 1st 1972...they didn't operate them prior to that time.



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 17
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12375 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 4):
They actually flew quite a few more than that....those were just the ones delivered directly from Boeing.

Well, yeah, the Northeast, Western, Pan Am....etc...just didn't realize they had ordered that many from Boeing.



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12354 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 6):
so when most airlines had them by 1967 or so.

United Air Lines: 29th October 1963
Eastern Airlines: 15th November 1963
American Airlines: 17th January 1964
TWA: 21st April 1964
National Airlines: 21st October 1964
Northwest Airlines: 12-Nov-1964
PSA: 06-Apr-1965
Pan Am: 22-Dec-1965



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 17
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 12328 times:

Continental, Allegheny, Braniff??


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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12254 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8):
.just didn't realize they had ordered that many from Boeing.

Yup....they took delivery of their first 727 from Boeing on 23-Jan-1973 and their last on 12-Nov-1981.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 8):
Pan Am....etc

Actually most if not all of the 24 727s they acquired from PA were not originally ordered by PA...they came from a bunch of different operators.

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 10):
Continental, Allegheny, Braniff??

Continental 51
Braniff 97

Allegheny just took a couple direct from Boeing...the rest were second hand or acquired via their mergers with PSA and Piedmont.

If you would like to know more Boeing has a wonderful tool on their website that lets you search for orders and deliveries.

http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...definedselection.cfm&pageid=m15527



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User currently offlinecanoecarrier From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2839 posts, RR: 12
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12134 times:

Didn't Pan Am get a couple of Ozark's 727s before Ozark ever operated them? Not sure I'd call those second hand since if memory serves me right they never operated a route for Ozark.


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User currently offlineDocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 19415 posts, RR: 58
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 12070 times:

How big was NW's 727 fleet? I doubt it was over 200, but it seemed pretty large.

User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 12054 times:

Quoting DocLightning (Reply 13):
How big was NW's 727 fleet?

85 delivered direct from Boeing....I'm not sure if they took any second hand 727's



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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3504 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11996 times:
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Quoting United1 (Reply 14):

NW picked up Republics in the merger



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User currently offline4everRC From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 325 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11991 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 14):
I'm not sure if they took any second hand 727's

I don't know any exact numbers, but NW got some through their acquisition of Republic 1. RC's 727s were a combination of aircraft delivered direct from Boeing and second hand from the merger with Hughes Airwest.



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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11952 times:

Quoting 4everRC (Reply 16):
I don't know any exact numbers, but NW got some through their acquisition of Republic 1. RC's 727s were a combination of aircraft delivered direct from Boeing and second hand from the merger with Hughes Airwest.

Forgot about them....if the tool on Boeing site is right that's around 20 frames so NW operated over a hundred at one point.



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11929 times:

I'm not sure what the total number that we had at DL was, considering the factory fresh ones, the ones from NE, WA and PA and not counting the -95s from NE, but I seem to remember that ship #546 was the 1000th one that was delivered to any airline from Boeing. It seems that there was another milestone 727 that we took delivery of, but not really sure about that.


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User currently offlineKELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 6346 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11895 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 6):
DL was kind of late to the 727 game, weren't they? I think I first started seeing DL 727's around 1972 or so when most airlines had them by 1967 or so.

And, in true Delta fashion, the last operator of the type in passenger service in the US (well, counting the majors, not guys like Champion Air). They were still flying 727's in the early 2000's  



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24891 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11821 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 17):
Quoting 4everRC (Reply 16):
I don't know any exact numbers, but NW got some through their acquisition of Republic 1. RC's 727s were a combination of aircraft delivered direct from Boeing and second hand from the merger with Hughes Airwest.

Forgot about them....if the tool on Boeing site is right that's around 20 frames so NW operated over a hundred at one point.

Republic took delivery of 7 new 722s from Boeing. They also inherited 8 from the merger with Hughes Airwest, plus 3 originally delivered to Ansett Australia and were operated by Wien Air Alaska before going to Republic.

Looks like all 18 of those aircraft went to NW as part of the Republic merger, but NW appears to have leased out the 3 ex-Ansett aircraft and they had many subsequent operators. Not sure if they were ever operated by NW.

NW also acquired 9 ex-Eastern 722s in 1992 after Eastern went bust, and 4 ex-Braniff in 1982-83 after their demise.


User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 11810 times:

How many did AS take and or operate?


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User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1308 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 11781 times:

Sad, isn't it, that many of the above mentioned airlines are no longer with us, and those who are no longer operate the mighty 3-holer beauty.

Ah well, at least I've got a jumpseat on one a couple of days from now, going into somewhere hot and dusty and the flying is a bit more ..... inspired  



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User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 11770 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 21):
How many did AS take and or operate?

7

Most of these types of questions can be answered at:
http://active.boeing.com/commercial/...definedselection.cfm&pageid=m15527

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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24891 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 11725 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 23):
Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 21):
How many did AS take and or operate?

7

The question was how many did they take and/or operate. While they only took delivery of 7 new 727s directly from Boeing (3 -100C combis and 4 -200s), they operated a total of 57, acquired from a wide variety of other carriers.


User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 13
Reply 25, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12195 times:

Quoting type-rated (Reply 6):

You can say that again. The widget had an aversion to Boeing until they took over Northeast and inherited their "yellow birds" It wasn't really an aversion but their President/CEO had a "gentlemen's agreement" with Douglass/McDonnal Douglass. They considered Lockheed Electras but opted out due to delivery issues. DL actually had their L1011's in service before they got hold of Boeing metal.

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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24891 posts, RR: 22
Reply 26, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12049 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 7):
Quoting type-rated (Reply 6):
DL was kind of late to the 727 game, weren't they?

DLs first 727's came from the merger with Northeast...August 1st 1972...they didn't operate them prior to that time.

As a sidenote, Northeast was the launch customer and first operator of the 727-200.


User currently offlinecokepopper From United States of America, joined May 2008, 1175 posts, RR: 10
Reply 27, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12281 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 18):

I'm not sure what the total number that we had at DL was, considering the factory fresh ones, the ones from NE, WA and PA and not counting the -95s from NE, but I seem to remember that ship #546 was the 1000th one that was delivered to any airline from Boeing. It seems that there was another milestone 727 that we took delivery of, but not really sure about that.

Don't forget Delta also received some 727''s from EA around '91


User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 28, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12314 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 25):
DL actually had their L1011's in service before they got hold of Boeing metal.

Actually, they didn't........DL started service with the 747 in 1970 and we were flying 727s, both -95s and -295s from NE in 1972, but didn't start flying the Tristars until about '73.


And while they were predominantly a "Douglas" user, they also used Convair 340s/440s before they were replaced by the DC-9s.....they also used Lockheed 10 Electras in the 30s as well as Connies in the 50s. When DL really started buying Douglas products, in the 40s, Boeing really didn't have a good competitor for the DC-3 and really didn't have the extensive product offerings that Douglas did, until the jet age. By the time jets came along, DL had a pretty good fleet of Douglas products and liked them, pretty well. What DL bought from Douglas, fit their route structure pretty well, until the NE merger when the route system started to expland.

[Edited 2012-09-28 15:18:07]


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24891 posts, RR: 22
Reply 29, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12242 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 28):
And while they were predominantly a "Douglas" user, they also used Convair 340s/440s before they were replaced by the DC-9s.

Plus 17 Convair 880s.between 1960-62 and 1973-74.


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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 30, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 12204 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 29):
Plus 17 Convair 880s.between 1960-62 and 1973-74.

Actually, it was between 1960 and 1973.........no gap inbetween



Here's a chart of DL's a/c that they've had, over the years (no fleet numbers) but it does show the years they were operated.


This is from the Delta Heritage Museum website:


All Aircraft
Manufacturer & Model Type Service Dates
Airbus 310 Jet 1991-1995
Airbus 319 Jet 2008-present
Airbus 320 Jet 2008-present
Airbus 330 Jet 2008-present
Boeing 727 Jet 1972-2003
Boeing 737 Jet 1983-present
Boeing 747 Jet 1970-1977, 2008-present
Boeing 757 Jet 1984-present
Boeing 767 Jet 1982-present
Boeing 777 Jet 1999-present
Convair 340 Propeller 1952-1970
Convair 440 Propeller 1956-1970
Convair 880 Jet 1960-1973
Curtiss C-46 Propeller 1957-1966
Douglas C-47 Propeller 1946-1957
Douglas DC-2 Propeller 1940-1941
Douglas DC-3 Propeller 1940-1960
Douglas DC-4 Propeller 1946-1953
Douglas DC-6 Propeller 1948-1968
Douglas DC-7 Propeller 1954-1968
Douglas DC-8 Jet 1959-1989
Douglas DC-9 Jet 1965-1993, 2008-present
Fairchild-Hiller FH-227B Turbo-Prop 1972-1974
Huff-Daland Duster Crop duster 1924-ca.1948
Lockheed 5C Vega Propeller 1935-1937
Lockheed 8A Sirius Propeller 1935-1937
Lockheed 10 Electra Propeller 1935-1942
Lockheed Constellation Propeller 1953-1958
Lockheed L-100 Turbo-Prop 1966-1973
Lockheed L-1011 Jet 1973-2001
McDonnell Douglas DC-10 Jet 1972-1975, 1987-1988
McDonnell Douglas MD-11 Jet 1991-2005
McDonnell Douglas MD-88 Jet 1987-present
McDonnell Douglas MD-90 Jet 1995-present
Stearman C3B Crop duster 1934-1937
Stearman PT-17 Crop duster 1945-1967
Stinson A Propeller 1935-1938
Stinson T Propeller 1934-1937
Travel Air 4000 Crop Duster 1928-1936
Travel Air S-6000-B Propeller 1929-1930



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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24891 posts, RR: 22
Reply 31, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 12109 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 30):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 29):
Plus 17 Convair 880s.between 1960-62 and 1973-74.

Actually, it was between 1960 and 1973.........no gap inbetween

Sorry, I didn't intend to show that there was a gap, just that they were delivered between 1960 and 1962 and disposed of in 1973/74.

[Edited 2012-09-28 15:22:08]

User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 32, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 12100 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 18):
I seem to remember that ship #546 was the 1000th one that was delivered to any airline from Boeing. It seems that there was another milestone 727 that we took delivery of, but not really sure about that.


546 was the final factory delivery......474 was the "1000th." In 2000, we used the wingtip of 474 to repair this plane:

http://www.ntsb.gov/aviationquery/br...ef.aspx?ev_id=20001212X20664&key=1


The other DL milestone a/c was ship 306, the "1000th" 737 delivered.



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 33, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 11994 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 32):

Did #546 have a plaque on the bulkhead, next to the cockpit door, that stated this? I seem to remember that, there.



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User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 34, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 11965 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 33):
Did #546 have a plaque on the bulkhead, next to the cockpit door, that stated this? I seem to remember that, there.

I never saw a plaque on 546, but 306 had a nice one from the factory stating "1000th" 737 delivered.



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User currently offlineJohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1656 posts, RR: 2
Reply 35, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 11935 times:

I thought the final factory delivered passenger 727 went to USAir. Did this plane make its way to Delta?

User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24891 posts, RR: 22
Reply 36, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 11883 times:

Quoting JohnJ (Reply 35):
I thought the final factory delivered passenger 727 went to USAir. Did this plane make its way to Delta?

No, never operated by DL.


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User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 37, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 11816 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 32):
546 was the final factory delivery
Quoting JohnJ (Reply 35):
I thought the final factory delivered passenger 727 went to USAir. Did this plane make its way to Delta?

Sorry, I should have clarified...


Final factory delivery to Delta



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User currently offlineJohnJ From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 1656 posts, RR: 2
Reply 38, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 11760 times:

Ah, understood. Thanks for the clarification. I remember the DL 727s well; I flew them frequently SFO-DFW back when I was commuting between SFO and FLL. Interestingy, the SFO-DFW leg always seemed to be a 72, while we generally got a bigger plane (usually a 762) between DFW and FLL. The best was having a compressor stall on departure from SFO, other than the loud bang everything proceeded normally on the takeoff.

User currently offline737-990 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 365 posts, RR: 1
Reply 39, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 11620 times:

On the international side I remember Mexicana used to boast they had the largest 727 fleet outside of the United States. Looking at the Boeing site I count 39 727s ordered and delivered (4 727-100s and 35 727-200s). Now maybe by the early 90s that might have been the case but I see Lufthansa had 53 727s delivered. Of note Air Canada had 39 and Iberia 37, both only ordered the 727-200.

So outside the US the largest were:
Lufthansa - 53 (16 -100s, 11 -100Cs, 26 -200s)
Air Canada - 39 (All -200s)
Mexicana - 39 (4 -100s, 35 -200s)
Iberia - 37 (All -200s)



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User currently offlinespartanmjf From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 494 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11495 times:

I am being dense on this one - more dense than normal - how would FedEx stack up?


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User currently offlineUnited1 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 5930 posts, RR: 9
Reply 41, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11489 times:

Quoting spartanmjf (Reply 40):

I am being dense on this one - more dense than normal - how would FedEx stack up?

Directly from Boeing they only took 15 new ones...everything else was second hand.



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 42, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11477 times:

Quoting spartanmjf (Reply 40):
I am being dense on this one - more dense than normal - how would FedEx stack up?

I doubt that any of the 727s that FedEx had were new, but used and converted to freighters.



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User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 43, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11483 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 42):
I doubt that any of the 727s that FedEx had were new, but used and converted to freighters.

Oddly enough, the first factory produced 727-200Fs were the only factory delivered 727s to FX and the last 727s off the line. I've seen one up close, they look odd without any plugged windows.



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User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1576 posts, RR: 9
Reply 44, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11452 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 42):
I doubt that any of the 727s that FedEx had were new, but used and converted to freighters.

They had them delivered directly from Boeing, including the last off the line if I am not mistaken. Most were conversions second hand though.



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User currently onlinen901wa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 45, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11481 times:

I forget, but didn't Delta also get some ExEAL 727-200adv during the fire sale that got us the L-1011s. I could have sworn the EAL 727 had the 3 step fuel lever, with enrich. while the rest of the fleet had 2 pos fuel lever. Or maybe they were the ExPAA German fleet 727s. Its been a long time  
When I was a kid, I remember my dad showing me the Mexicana 727 that had the JATO attach points, in the Western Hangar.


User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 13
Reply 46, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11479 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 28):

Connies in the 50's? Never could find a picture of a DL Conny. I believe I learned from A-Net that DL was going to lease or buy used Connies from Pan Am but, they were so roached out (worn) that DL never put them in revenue service hence the literal non-existance of pictures. However if I'm wrong please correct me and post pictures.  



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User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 47, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11452 times:

Quoting n901wa (Reply 45):
I forget, but didn't Delta also get some ExEAL 727-200adv during the fire sale that got us the L-1011s. I could have sworn the EAL 727 had the 3 step fuel lever, with enrich. while the rest of the fleet had 2 pos fuel lever.

Yes, the -225s had the three position start lever and a different fire warning system (Systron Donner?).

The real oddball was the DL shuttle -243 with nosewheel brakes and composite hard panels (non velcro) in the airstair area.



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User currently onlineIMissPiedmont From United States of America, joined May 2001, 6280 posts, RR: 34
Reply 48, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11357 times:

Quoting canoecarrier (Reply 12):

PA did indeed take the 2 727s that Ozark ordered direct from Boeing. At least one was painted in full Ozark colors and it looked good.



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User currently offlineTomassjc From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 847 posts, RR: 2
Reply 49, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11313 times:
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Quoting 737-990 (Reply 39):
On the international side I remember Mexicana used to boast they had the largest 727 fleet outside of the United States. Looking at the Boeing site I count 39 727s ordered and delivered (4 727-100s and 35 727-200s).


I seem to recall when I worked for MX that they flew around 50 727-200s, including the leased birds, at one point in the mid to late 80s.

I remember 4 examples that came from EA, with brown tray tables and built in forward air stairs, an ex VASP bird as well as two that came from LACSA and one from Aerolineas Argentinas.... just to name a few of the "oddballs" in the fleet.

I dearly miss the 727-200. I did weight and balance on them for 20 years. Load it up, max it out, and it would fly!

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User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7532 posts, RR: 8
Reply 50, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 11183 times:

Quoting KELPkid (Reply 19):
And, in true Delta fashion, the last operator of the type in passenger service in the US (well, counting the majors, not guys like Champion Air). They were still flying 727's in the early 2000's

Are you talking normal passenger service? NW flew charter flights on the 727 until late 2003, the last "normal" flight though was January 7, 2003, DEN-MSP NW Flight 560



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User currently onlinen901wa From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 454 posts, RR: 0
Reply 51, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 11102 times:

Thanks fellow DL_Mech   I thought we had sme 225s. I forgot about the shuttle 727 with the nose brakes. Never got to change one with brakes.

zippyjet some info for you on your Connie quest. Delta did fly the short Connies. they got 6 L-649a from the Chicago and Southern Merger, and sold off in 1954-55 ( 1 even worked its way to Western Airlines thru the Pacific Northern Merger, and flew untill Dec 1968 ), and they bought 4 L-049s from PAA in 1956 and sold in 1958. I do have pictures I wish I could share, but they are Delta Pictures, so I can't post them, Very sorry. Here's a link to Delta's write up in the Museum

http://www.deltamuseum.org/M_Educati...ircraft_Lockheed_Constellation.htm


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Reply 52, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10916 times:
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Even though Fed Ex did not start operating 727s until the early 70s and only received 15 newly delivered directly from Boeing I think that they will have operated the type longer than any other by the time the last one is WFU.


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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 53, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10686 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 46):

Connies in the 50's? Never could find a picture of a DL Conny. I believe I learned from A-Net that DL was going to lease or buy used Connies from Pan Am but, they were so roached out (worn) that DL never put them in revenue service hence the literal non-existance of pictures. However if I'm wrong please correct me and post pictures.
DL got Connies from Chicago & Southern when they merged in '53. DL also had 4 that they bought from PA and operated from '56 until '58 and were sold to American Flyers in '60. I don't have any photos available, but my reply #30, will show a chart from the Delta Heritage Museum website that shows that DL did, indeed have Connies.


There are some photos and drawings in the book "Delta, The Illustrated History of an Airline and the People Who Made It" by the late R.E.G. Davies.

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 47):

The real oddball was the DL shuttle -243 with nosewheel brakes and composite hard panels (non velcro) in the airstair area.

Were these ex-EA or ex-PA birds? I know we had -247s from WA and -295s from NE.

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 32):
Quoting mayor (Reply 18):
I seem to remember that ship #546 was the 1000th one that was delivered to any airline from Boeing. It seems that there was another milestone 727 that we took delivery of, but not really sure about that.


546 was the final factory delivery......474 was the "1000th."

Here's what I was referring to.....this came from the Museum website, too......these are notable 727s that were in DL's fleet.....


"500th 727 produced by Boeing (delivered to Northeast).
1,000th 727 produced by Boeing, January 1974."

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 50):

Are you talking normal passenger service? NW flew charter flights on the 727 until late 2003, the last "normal" flight though was January 7, 2003, DEN-MSP NW Flight 560
DL's last "normal" 727 flight was on April 6, 2003. Not sure about charters past that time.

Quoting n901wa (Reply 45):
Or maybe they were the ExPAA German fleet 727s. Its been a long time

I was pretty sure that DL swapped the PA 727s that were used on the Shuttle, with some EA ones and then the ex-PA ones were sent to Europe.


Found some DL Connie pics.....




[Edited 2012-09-28 20:36:58]


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User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3741 posts, RR: 12
Reply 54, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 10650 times:
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You are forgetting Air France. Air France was a major 727 operator in Europe, during the 70s and 80s. Air France flew the 727 from the late 60s until the early 90s when the A320 replaced it. However, they never flew any 100s. They flew only 200s. If we talk about major non US operators of the 727, Air France definitely has to be mentioned.

Ben Soriano



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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 13
Reply 55, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10390 times:

Quoting n901wa (Reply 51):
Quoting mayor (Reply 53):

Thank you both for the info I'll check out the DL site when I get to my computer. I totally forgot about C & S. When I think of C & S I think of old beater DC 3 and DC 4's.

What routes did DL fly their Connies? Both the Pan Am sloppy seconds and the old C & S birds? I'd guess they did routes such as MIA-ATL-MDW back in the day of the propliner era. And can you confirm or challenge the idea that the Connies procurred from Pan Am were very well worn and saw limited DL service?  



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User currently offlineDeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9289 posts, RR: 14
Reply 56, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10372 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 30):
McDonnell Douglas MD-11 Jet 1991-2005
McDonnell Douglas MD-88 Jet 1987-present

just a note.

Delta's first 8X aircraft were 82s, later converted to 88s. IIRC it was 901-908.



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User currently offlineB727FA From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 751 posts, RR: 0
Reply 57, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10293 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 14):
85 delivered direct from Boeing....I'm not sure if they took any second hand 727's

RE: the 14 factory to NW. I worked on 281/282US sister ships years later at Sunworld, I believe only 281 was ex-Kiwi. 282 was???? Anyone?



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User currently offlineDeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9289 posts, RR: 14
Reply 58, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10274 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 53):
DL's last "normal" 727 flight was on April 6, 2003. Not sure about charters past that time.

I think they were done flying for Delta after that flight (minus the flight to the junk yard) I don't think Delta kept any around for anything though.



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 59, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10256 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 55):

What routes did DL fly their Connies? Both the Pan Am sloppy seconds and the old C & S birds? I'd guess they did routes such as MIA-ATL-MDW back in the day of the propliner era. And can you confirm or challenge the idea that the Connies procurred from Pan Am were very well worn and saw limited DL service?

Looks like DL procured their Connies mostly to fly from Florida to New York. The book does not indicate that they were well worn and saw limited service. They were used for about 2 years. C&S used theirs, eventually from Detroit and Chicago, via MSY, to the Caribbean. I'm guessing that DL continued this service after the merger.



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User currently offlineFlyMKG From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 60, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 10219 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 43):
Oddly enough, the first factory produced 727-200Fs were the only factory delivered 727s to FX and the last 727s off the line. I've seen one up close, they look odd without any plugged windows.

The FedEx 722Fs still have all the windows plugged. They are however missing both aft service doors and the forward service door. The only traditional doors are the L1 door and the aft airstairs. They also still have all four overwing emergency exits. Quite a few freighter conversions deactivate two of these emergency exits.

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User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 13
Reply 61, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 9969 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 59):
Looks like DL procured their Connies mostly to fly from Florida to New York. The book does not indicate that they were well worn and saw limited service.

Thank you for the information. However, I thought DL didn't have "CAB" approval to fly the lucrative New York-Miami route. I thought that route was served by Eastern, National and Northeast.



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 62, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 9885 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 61):
However, I thought DL didn't have "CAB" approval to fly the lucrative New York-Miami route. I thought that route was served by Eastern, National and Northeast.

Sorry.......I should have said that they procured those Connies from PA to run from the "south" to New York



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User currently offlineFX1816 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 1400 posts, RR: 4
Reply 63, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 9735 times:

Quoting United1 (Reply 11):
Allegheny just took a couple direct from Boeing...the rest were second hand or acquired via their mergers with PSA and Piedmont.

Although USAir did operate former PSA 727's they actually acquired them via Piedmont and not the merger with PSA, the 727's were gone from PSA before then.

Quoting bigbird (Reply 52):
Even though Fed Ex did not start operating 727s until the early 70s and only received 15 newly delivered directly from Boeing I think that they will have operated the type longer than any other by the time the last one is WFU.

Well FDX didn't acquire 721's until 1977/78 but you are probably right, when they retire them by 2015 they will probably have operated 727's just about as long or longer than anyone else.

FX1816


User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 64, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8995 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 53):
Were these ex-EA or ex-PA birds? I know we had -247s from WA and -295s from NE.

Ex PA shuttle aircraft, but leased from CO.

Quoting mayor (Reply 53):
DL's last "normal" 727 flight was on April 6, 2003. Not sure about charters past that time.

Part of the reason for the DL 727 retirement was the deadline for installation of the hardened cockpit door. A couple of them squeeked out of ATL just before the deadline.......


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Quoting FlyMKG (Reply 60):
The FedEx 722Fs still have all the windows plugged. They are however missing both aft service doors and the forward service door. The only traditional doors are the L1 door and the aft airstairs. They also still have all four overwing emergency exits.

The -2S2s were never built with pax window frames to plug, so technically they aren't plugged.....unlike the -233s, -247s etc.



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User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 65, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 8910 times:

Quoting FX1816 (Reply 63):
Well FDX didn't acquire 721's until 1977/78 but you are probably right, when they retire them by 2015 they will probably have operated 727's just about as long or longer than anyone else.

If FX flies them until 2015, then they will beat UA by about a year.

UA 1964-2001

FX 1977-2015?



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User currently offlineMEA-707 From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4304 posts, RR: 36
Reply 66, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 7908 times:

Iran Air operate 727s nonstop since 1965 and counting!
Northwest had them from 1964 to 2003= 39 years
I fear that FedEx won't pass them



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User currently offlineZANL188 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 3504 posts, RR: 0
Reply 67, posted (1 year 10 months 5 days ago) and read 7076 times:
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Quoting FlyMKG (Reply 60):
Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 64):

Last 727F & last 727 built... I see window frames...


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User currently offlinetb727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 1576 posts, RR: 9
Reply 68, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 6708 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 47):
Yes, the -225s had the three position start lever and a different fire warning system (Systron Donner?).

Yes. I've been flying an ex-EA bird around all week, well month now, and it's the odd ball of the fleet for those items.



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User currently offlineDL_Mech From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 1926 posts, RR: 9
Reply 69, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 5318 times:

Quoting ZANL188 (Reply 67):
Last 727F & last 727 built... I see window frames...

I stand corrected.....Now where are those memory supplement pills.........



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 70, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5275 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 69):
I stand corrected.....Now where are those memory supplement pills.........

But then you gotta REMEMBER to take them  



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User currently offline727LOVER From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 6413 posts, RR: 17
Reply 71, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5226 times:

Thanx for all the answers, guys. Glad to see so many still love the 727.

Someone was asking about NW. I dont know about the -100, but NW had 57 -251s

DL The oddball aircraft I always wondered about was N831L. Where did that one come from?



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User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4952 posts, RR: 19
Reply 72, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5217 times:

And NW had the 727 years before the RC merger/buyout. I first saw my first NW 727 in 1969.


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User currently offlinePolot From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 2129 posts, RR: 1
Reply 73, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5185 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 71):
DL The oddball aircraft I always wondered about was N831L. Where did that one come from?

That is an ex-Western plane. Western was leasing it from ILFC (I believe since delivery).


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24891 posts, RR: 22
Reply 74, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5177 times:

Quoting IMissPiedmont (Reply 48):
PA did indeed take the 2 727s that Ozark ordered direct from Boeing. At least one was painted in full Ozark colors and it looked good.

The only A.net photo:


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Better photo here:

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Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 71):

DL The oddball aircraft I always wondered about was N831L. Where did that one come from?

Ex-Western. Must have originally been ordered by leasing company ILFC due to the Q8 Boeing customer code.

Quoting American 767 (Reply 54):
You are forgetting Air France.

AF was the first non-US carrier to order and operate the 727-200, and only the 4th customer after Northeast, American, National and Continental. I think my first flight on a 727-200 was on AF LHR-ORY in April 1970


User currently offlinezippyjet From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 5478 posts, RR: 13
Reply 75, posted (1 year 10 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 4841 times:

Quoting n901wa (Reply 51):
http://www.deltamuseum.org/M_Educati...ircraft_Lockheed_Constellation.htm

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Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 71):

I really appreciated the 727. Especially since I didn't get to fly again until 15 years later. The Reagan 80's were a looong decade for me. My last two flights were Eastern 727's May 30, 1980 and June 6 1980. BWI-MIA Eastern flight 173 and my last flight for 15 long years Eastern flight 172 MIA-BWI. I never thought by the time I became an FL crewmember the 727 would be in the end of it's twilight.



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User currently offlineFlyMKG From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 76, posted (1 year 10 months 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 4409 times:

Quoting DL_Mech (Reply 47):
Yes, the -225s had the three position start lever and a different fire warning system (Systron Donner?).
Quoting tb727 (Reply 68):
Yes. I've been flying an ex-EA bird around all week, well month now, and it's the odd ball of the fleet for those items.

The 2S2Fs also have the three position start levers.

FlyMKG



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User currently offlinemilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1992 posts, RR: 6
Reply 77, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3979 times:

Quoting zippyjet (Reply 61):
Quoting mayor (Reply 59):
Looks like DL procured their Connies mostly to fly from Florida to New York. The book does not indicate that they were well worn and saw limited service.

Thank you for the information. However, I thought DL didn't have "CAB" approval to fly the lucrative New York-Miami route. I thought that route was served by Eastern, National and Northeast.

DL had Connies twice, the L-649's upgraded to 749's from C&S that were sold to TW and leased to PNA in 1954 as the DC-7's were delivered and four ex-PA L-049's that were purchased when the New York/PHL/BAL/DCA route from ATL was awarded in 1956. They were upgraded to L-149's and then were grounded two years later. It took another two years to "sell" them to American Flyers Airlines, Reed Pigman's Supplemental. DL did not have Northeast Mid Atlantic routes to Florida until they bought NE in 1972.
EA, NA, and NE did have a oligopoly on those routes.


User currently offlineskymiler From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 523 posts, RR: 1
Reply 78, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 3974 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 18):
but I seem to remember that ship #546 was the 1000th one that was delivered to any airline from Boeing. It


I flew on this ship several times -- not only was there an annotation painted on the fuselage, but there was a small plaque on the wall at the boarding door.

Wonder if anybody saved the plaque when she was retired?



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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 79, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 3816 times:

Quoting skymiler (Reply 78):

I flew on this ship several times -- not only was there an annotation painted on the fuselage, but there was a small plaque on the wall at the boarding door.

Wonder if anybody saved the plaque when she was retired?

I can't remember but I wonder if ship #474, the actual 1000th 727 delivered, had a plaque, also?



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User currently offlineFlyingsottsman From Australia, joined Oct 2010, 523 posts, RR: 0
Reply 80, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3704 times:

Quoting American 767 (Reply 54):
You are forgetting Air France. Air France was a major 727 operator in Europe, during the 70s and 80s. Air France flew the 727 from the late 60s until the early 90s when the A320 replaced it. However, they never flew any 100s. They flew only 200s. If we talk about major non US operators of the 727, Air France definitely has to be mentioned.

Ben Soriano

What about Lufthansa didnt they have quite a few 727s aswell, if you are going to include European airlines.


User currently offlineskymiler From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 523 posts, RR: 1
Reply 81, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 3675 times:

Quoting mayor (Reply 79):
I can't remember but I wonder if ship #474, the actual 1000th 727 delivered, had a plaque, also?


Yes, indeed, just inside the boarding door.

I caught this ship several times -- in fact I remember making a last minute flight switch from AA to DL one Saturday morning in the mid 70's (before deregulation days so one could change tickets/carriers on a whim!!) when travelling BDL -> PHL.

I spotted the ship's # and realised what was at the gate and wanted simply to say I flew the 1,000th!.



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User currently offlinedeltacto From United States of America, joined Mar 2009, 435 posts, RR: 0
Reply 82, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3410 times:

Quoting 727LOVER (Reply 71):
DL The oddball aircraft I always wondered about was N831L. Where did that one come from?

N831L was one of the 727's acquired from Western
It was a 727-2Q8
2Q8 is the Boeing Customer Code for ILFC

http://www.airlinecodes.co.uk/boeing.asp

http://www.geocities.com/~aeromoe/fleets/delta.html

This geocities site shows the model numbers of all DL 727's


User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2996 posts, RR: 7
Reply 83, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3390 times:

Quoting FX1816 (Reply 63):
Although USAir did operate former PSA 727's they actually acquired them via Piedmont and not the merger with PSA, the 727's were gone from PSA before then.

Yep, PSA phased our their 727s by 1984 and the ill-fated US gutting of PSA was in 1988. I believe PSA was one of the first, if not the first, airlines to phase out their 727 fleet in favor of more fuel efficient models (Bae146 and MD-80s).


User currently offlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4952 posts, RR: 19
Reply 84, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3335 times:

Quoting skymiler (Reply 81):
ne Saturday morning in the mid 70's (before deregulation days so one could change tickets/carriers on a whim!!)

Those were the days, weren't they? Day coach tickets became night first class, you could take almost any indirect routing you wanted to as long as your destination remained the same. I picked up a lot of airlines and aircraft types like that in my early years.



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User currently offlineskycub From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 85, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3258 times:

A few notes (some of which may have already been mentioned) about final 727 flights....

Northwest Airlines
Final scheduled flight: Flight 560 Denver-Minneapolis on January 7, 2003.

Delta Air Lines
Final scheduled flight: Greensboro-Atlanta on April 6, 2003. Aircraft N283WA.

American Airlines:
Final scheduled flight: Flight 765 Tampa-Miami on April 30, 2002.

Continental Airlines
Final scheduled flight: Denver-Houston Intercontinental on November 28, 1999. Aircraft N572PE.

Trans World Airlines
Final scheduled flight: New Orleans-Saint Louis on September 30, 2000. Aircraft N64339. (This was also the aircraft involved in the 1985 hijacking of TWA flight 847.)

United Airlines:
Final scheduled flight: Denver to Oakland on October 30, 2001. Aircraft N7449U.

USAir (Mainline)
Final scheduled flight: August 30, 1995.

USAir (Shuttle)
Final scheduled flight: October 20, 2000.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 24891 posts, RR: 22
Reply 86, posted (1 year 10 months 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3232 times:

Quoting skycub (Reply 85):
Trans World Airlines
Final scheduled flight: New Orleans-Saint Louis on September 30, 2000. Aircraft N64339. (This was also the aircraft involved in the 1985 hijacking of TWA flight 847.)

Video coverage of the last 2 TWA flights STL-MSY-STL.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydfsPlNIMw0


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