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16th And Last DL744 To Enter Modification Oct4  
User currently offlineCV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 6582 times:

Ship N673US, the last 744 to enter mods at Paya Lebar, Singapore is sked to fly NRT-SIN on 03Oct and to enter modification on 04Oct. It should be replaced in service by N669US on the same date SIN-NRT.

All 744's are nose to tail AVOD and I believe will get WIFI added by S13.

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User currently offlinedanielkandi From Denmark, joined Sep 2012, 61 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 6363 times:

Does any Delta flyers have an insight to us new delta boys, how good these new flatbeds will be ? more comfy than the old KLM business angled ?


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User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5845 times:

Quoting CV880 (Thread starter):

Looks like it now arrives in NRT on 10/04 and then flies to SIN later that day or the next. I'm sure FlightAware will update this by tomorrow.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N673US


User currently offlineCV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5796 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 2):
Looks like it now arrives in NRT on 10/04 and then flies to SIN later that day or the next. I'm sure FlightAware will update this by tomorrow.

Maybe 669 isn't finished with mods yet as it's only been about 30days. The NRT-SIN leg still showing a 777 seat map but Delta.com was slow updating TLV-JFK-NRT seat map as it was still showing a 74S yesterday.


User currently offlineDL787932ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 597 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5672 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 2):

Does any Delta flyers have an insight to us new delta boys, how good these new flatbeds will be ? more comfy than the old KLM business angled ?

I haven't flown in DL's 744/777 type angled flat beds, but the 1-2-1 config flatbeds on the 767 fleet are worlds better than the flat-at-an-angle beds on the 330s. I can only imagine the larger suites on the 744/777 are even nicer. Unless they start using those types to Europe I probably won't get to find out anytime soon  



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User currently offlinepqdtw From Netherlands, joined Aug 2008, 154 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 5619 times:

Quoting DL787932ER (Reply 4):

Delta will be flying the 777 to AMS this winter from DTW so there is your chance.


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4901 posts, RR: 25
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5583 times:
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Quoting danielkandi (Reply 1):
Does any Delta flyers have an insight to us new delta boys, how good these new flatbeds will be ? more comfy than the old KLM business angled ?

These are flat-bed seats, so they are definitely much better than any angled-flat seat.

Note that Delta has three flat-bed seat types: i) reverse herringbone for the 744 and the A330s; ii) herringbone for the 777; and iii) Thompson Vantage 1-2-1 seats for the 767s (both the -300ER and -400ERs).

i) is similar to the US, CX, and upcoming AA flat-bed seats
ii) is similar to the VS, NZ, 9W, and old CX flat-bed seats
iii) is similar to the LX, AY, and SN flat-bed seats

Video for the 744 flat-bed seat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xlxLOKOv7Vg&feature=relmfu

Video for the 777 flat-bed seat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wK_FafqILjk&feature=relmfu

Video for the 767 flat-be seat:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N06mWF2yq6c&feature=relmfu

Of the three, my favorite is the new 744/A330 seat, followed by the 767 seat, and lastly, the older 777 seat.


User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 5527 times:

Quoting DL787932ER (Reply 4):
but the 1-2-1 config flatbeds on the 767 fleet are worlds better than the flat-at-an-angle beds on the 330s

On the DL 764's, it's easier to look out the window than on DL's other lie-flat seats. I've yet to ride in a 74S....we'll see.



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User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7539 posts, RR: 8
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5408 times:

Ship 6313 is showing this

10/3 DL 269 TLV-JFK DEP: 00:40 ARR: 06:35
10/3 DL 173 JFK-NRT DEP: 13:50 ARR: 16:55
10/4 DL 173 NRT-MNL DEP: 18:55 ARR: 22:35

After arriving at MNL it doesn't have anything scheduled yet, granted it's right on the edge of the 3 day window.


Ship 6309:

10/3 DL 9955 QPG-SIN DEP: 12:00 ARR: 12:45
10/4 DL 622 SIN-NRT DEP: 06:00 ARR: 13:50
10/4 DL 296 NRT-ATL DEP: 15:55 ARR: 15:05

Also note that its showing that 6316 went to QPG on 9/17 with estimated ready date of 10/16

[Edited 2012-10-02 16:14:37]


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User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 5368 times:

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 8):

Being a former aircraft dispatcher, I'm guessing that you're able to get this info from Flight Operations. If not, where can we all access this info, as even FlightAware doesn't publish much more than one day ahead.
Thanks.


User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7539 posts, RR: 8
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 5219 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 9):
Being a former aircraft dispatcher, I'm guessing that you're able to get this info from Flight Operations. If not, where can we all access this info, as even FlightAware doesn't publish much more than one day ahead.
Thanks.

Yes from flight ops.



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User currently offlineCV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 4931 times:

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 8):
10/3 DL 269 TLV-JFK DEP: 00:40 ARR: 06:35
10/3 DL 173 JFK-NRT DEP: 13:50 ARR: 16:55
10/4 DL 173 NRT-MNL DEP: 18:55 ARR: 22:35

From the current seat maps on delta.com, it appears that(N673US) is going back to NRT/JFK again(10/5), so maybe there's a current need for 15 744's in service, as there's only one in mods at the moment?


User currently offlineCV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 4718 times:

Quoting CV880 (Reply 11):
it appears that(N673US) is going back to NRT/JFK again(10/5)

From flightaware, N663US, one of the 1st aircraft to complete mods was sent back to Paya Lebar on 04Oct, so the reason for the delay on 673US, which seems to be back and forth between MNL-TLV via NRT/JFK.


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4533 times:

Quoting CV880 (Reply 12):

I wonder if "burnsie28" can answer this one? Why has N663US gone to Paya Lebar? Wasn't this one of the first aircraft that had its mods done in PEK before the switch to Paya Lebar? Is DL unhappy with the quality of the mods done in PEK and decided to switch facilities and now the early modded aircraft are having issues or is this just an isolated visit?


User currently offlineCV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 4469 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 13):
Wasn't this one of the first aircraft that had its mods done in PEK before the switch to Paya Lebar?

I don't think that PEK was ever doing these mods. I , for one, thought that QPG referred to PEK when it was actually WSAP. What's so ironic is that I have flown into Paya Lebar when Changi didn't exist (back in 1979).


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 4401 times:

Quoting CV880 (Reply 14):

In a deleted thread titled "First DL 744 with cabin mods in service", "burnsie28", in reply 34 dated Wednesday Feb 15th 2012, confirmed that N663US was in PEK having the interior mods done. I tried to copy and paste the link but was unable to copy it. I'm not sure how many others were done in PEK, but certainly N670US, N663US and N662US were done in that order.

[Edited 2012-10-04 10:45:45]

User currently offlineCV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 4242 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 15):
In a deleted thread titled "First DL 744 with cabin mods in service", "burnsie28", in reply 34 dated Wednesday Feb 15th 2012, confirmed that N663US was in PEK having the interior mods done. I tried to copy and paste the link but was unable to copy it. I'm not sure how many others were done in PEK, but certainly N670US, N663US and N662US were done in that order.

In late March, N662US left on a routing WSAP-PANC-KDTW. It would not have made $$ sense to start the mods in PEK and move the operation to SIN, and I don't believe that anyone was tracking ship numbers when these mods started as they all seemed to go off tracking at NRT. DL is noted for using "dummy" codes in cities with multiple operations, like QNY, and QPG easily could have been misinterpreted as PEKing.


User currently offlineburnsie28 From United States of America, joined Aug 2004, 7539 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4086 times:

Quoting CV880 (Reply 16):
In late March, N662US left on a routing WSAP-PANC-KDTW. It would not have made $$ sense to start the mods in PEK and move the operation to SIN, and I don't believe that anyone was tracking ship numbers when these mods started as they all seemed to go off tracking at NRT. DL is noted for using "dummy" codes in cities with multiple operations, like QNY, and QPG easily could have been misinterpreted as PEKing.

I was on the 744 right after it flew in from Tokyo as a revenue flight, after being ferried from PEK. However, the first aircraft took a lot longer than originally expected.



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User currently offlinewidget1580 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 345 posts, RR: 14
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 4057 times:

Just a tad off topic but does anyone know how the 763's are coming along?

Thanks



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User currently offlineCV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 3970 times:

Quoting burnsie28 (Reply 17):
after being ferried from PEK.

I guess that it was the only one done there as the others appear to have returned from WSAP, either via ANC or NRT.

Quoting widget1580 (Reply 18):
Just a tad off topic but does anyone know how the 763's are coming along?

One additional, ship 199, seems to have been finished for a total of 9.


User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3848 times:

I'm still curious as to why N663US has gone to QPG. Whether it was modded in PEK or QPG six months ago, it seems odd that it is there now. I doubt that it's there for HMV as there are places much closer to the US for that. Can "burnsie28" help out here as you seem to have access to DL's Flight Ops?

User currently offlineCoronado From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1175 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 3837 times:
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Would this be the first 744 going over to get configured for the international WIFI? Sometimes the first installation takes a bit longer to test out and document as I am sure the installation of the wifi antennas has to be carefully thought out to avoid any notable dead spots. Once the recipe is perfected and procedures documented they could probably do the installation at other bases as they did with the domestic fleet.


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User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 3525 times:

Come on guys! I know there are people out there who have access to DL's Flight Ops., or who have connections there! Has ship 6303 (N663US), which has already been modded with the lie-flat seats etc. I believe in PEK, gone to QPG for international WiFi installation or for something else? Second request for "burnsie28" to help out, if possible of course!

[Edited 2012-10-07 19:10:37]

User currently offlinefilejw From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 359 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3363 times:

My understanding the work done on that first a/c in PEK was not up to standard hence the move.

User currently offlineCV880 From United States of America, joined Mar 2007, 1130 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 3339 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 22):
Has ship 6303 (N663US), which has already been modded with the lie-flat seats etc. I believe in PEK, gone to QPG for international WiFi installation or for something else?


Ship 6303 mods were completed in SIN (Paya Lebar) on 04/09. The aircraft had a turnback to HNL after it had departed from HNL to NRT in late Sept. It departed again 8hrs late. Possibly the reason for being back in SIN. I have no way of finding out. As far as WIFI, I believe those installations on the 744's are sked for early 2013.


25 audidudi : Well it appears that the last DL B744 to go into mods, N673US, is due to fly to SIN tomorrow and then on to QPG. What a shame that none of our knowled
26 Post contains images FlyASAGuy2005 : Some of us do work
27 audidudi : The fifteenth aircraft, (N676NW), has been completed in QPG and leaves for SIN-NRT tomorrow, as the final aircraft to be updated (N673US) replaces it.
28 filejw : Some of the first a/c did not get a full overhaul just the seats and rug.They will return to SIN to be finished
29 CV880 : N663US now sked SIN-NRT on 23Oct. There should be 15 modified 744's in service with one still in mods.
30 aviateur : The new DL 744 suite is the best premium class product the airline has ever offered. It'd be nice if there was a moveable privacy barrier, but the ang
31 timf : N662US is flying NRT-SIN, so it looks like it will be receiving the same follow-up treatment that N663US did.
32 FlyASAGuy2005 : So i'm guessing they didn't redo the galleys or lavs just yet; just the seats and carpeting? I know all the sidewall and overhead lighting was suppos
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