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Will US Ever Base E190 In CLT  
User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 5835 times:

Will us airways ever base the E190 in CLT, We used to have a lot of flights with the E190 years ago, to PIT,ILM,CHS,MYR,LGA,ATL,JAX etc...,.

I understand there acquiring 5 more from republic and 2 will be delivered in Q4 and the rest in Q1 of next year

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User currently offlineb757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 5747 times:

Last rumor was that they would take over all of the shuttle flying.

Then again I heard the short time and large amount of cycles the shuttle markets create are not good for the jungle jet.



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User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3052 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 5523 times:

I think, I'm so sure that there used to be an E190 base in CLT. With them acquiring E190s from F9/Republic, who knows what will happen.

Looking at the current flight schedule, I see an E190 (or E90 as US calls it) flying CLT-RDU, but thats it out of CLT.



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User currently offlinesouthwest737500 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5347 times:

Quoting USAirALB (Reply 2):

We also get a E190 flys CLT-PHL on Saturdays

We used to have a base here years ago


User currently offlinewomenbeshoppin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5342 times:

Correct me if I am wrong, but didnt US give 190's to Republic as payment for regional flying a few years ago??

User currently offlineb757capt From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 1374 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 22 hours ago) and read 5300 times:

Quoting womenbeshoppin (Reply 4):
Correct me if I am wrong, but didnt US give 190's to Republic as payment for regional flying a few years ago??

No, It was a sale when US was trying to raise its cash position. Now the role is reversed and RP would like to unload them.



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User currently offlinewomenbeshoppin From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5286 times:

Quoting b757capt (Reply 5):
No, It was a sale when US was trying to raise its cash position. Now the role is reversed and RP would like to unload them.

RP gave US a 35 million dollar loan, I thought RP was applying the balance of the loan to the purchase of the aircraft and will assume the remaining debt on the aircraft.


User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 21 hours ago) and read 5225 times:

Quoting southwest737500 (Reply 3):
Quoting USAirALB (Reply 2):

Also, AWE1162 (CLT-DCA) is an E90 on Saturdays. I was booked onit on a Friday and was an a319. I wa kinda jealous  


User currently offlinemaxpower1954 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 1087 posts, RR: 7
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 5076 times:

The CLT E190 pilot base was only open a few years. It closed December 31, 2009 with the sale of the ten aircraft to Republic.

User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 5029 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 7):

BTW, I just noticed a flaw in my earlier post. It was flight 1062 not 1162.


User currently offlinemidex461 From United States of America, joined Feb 2000, 282 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3848 times:

A bit off topic, I know, but....is it within the realm of possibility that an E190 base could be opened up in PHX? There's a few markets out west that would be about perfect for that sized aircraft - SAT, FAT, BUR, SBA, ABQ, AUS, TUS, among others


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User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11638 posts, RR: 60
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3743 times:

Quoting b757capt (Reply 1):
Then again I heard the short time and large amount of cycles the shuttle markets create are not good for the jungle jet.

It's a regional jet - never heard this from any other airlines operating them.


Dan  



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User currently offlinebkircher From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3468 times:

Thats what the Mesa CRJ9s are for...

User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3363 times:

Quoting midex461 (Reply 10):
A bit off topic, I know, but....is it within the realm of possibility that an E190 base could be opened up in PHX? There's a few markets out west that would be about perfect for that sized aircraft - SAT, FAT, BUR, SBA, ABQ, AUS, TUS, among others

How would the E-190 perform in such a hot climate? I know F9 flies them to PHX but it's not that much. Just 1-2x a day. I think that's where the CRJ-900s shine.


User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4055 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3338 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 13):
How would the E-190 perform in such a hot climate? I know F9 flies them to PHX but it's not that much. Just 1-2x a day. I think that's where the CRJ-900s shine.

They have no problem with the 321s at PHX, I don't think the E190 would have a problem.


User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3267 times:

Quoting HPRamper (Reply 14):
They have no problem with the 321s at PHX,

That's not completely true. US' a321s have been historically underpowered and have to cruise at low altitudes, especially in that area. Many of their a321 flights out of PHX cruise around 29,000 feet.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22864 posts, RR: 20
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 3253 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 15):
Many of their a321 flights out of PHX cruise around 29,000 feet.

Have you got some empirical evidence that 321s cruise lower ex-PHX? Let's look at today's PHX-CLT flights and their cruising altitudes:

300 (321): 37,000
302 (752): 29,000
304 (321): 35,000
306 (321): 35,000

Where are all the 321 flights cruising at 29,000?



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User currently offlinecsturdiv From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 1456 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 3155 times:

Several years ago I got an E90 flight on ORD-CLT, was a nice change from the B734s that they use now. As I fly US a lot on ORD-CLT-RSW, I wish they would go back to the E90 on the ORD-CLT leg.


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User currently offlinebkircher From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 210 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3081 times:

How did we go from E190 to 321s?? Ive seen the F9 190s here in phx just about twice a day and Midwests 190s it seems like once a week.

User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3060 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 16):

In the summer many a321 flights that in the summer, do to the heat and length of the flights, do cruise at low altitudes. I have friends that go to FAT through PHX three times a year and whenever they are on a321s from JFK to PHX they cruise at or around 29,000-30,000 feet.

Did a quick search and found a few....

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...1/history/20120930/1326Z/KCLT/KDEN cruised at 30,000 feet
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...5/history/20120930/2210Z/KPHL/KDEN cruising at 26000 feet
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...5/history/20120930/2149Z/KPHL/KSFO still climbing, but filed 26,000 feet
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...9/history/20120930/2155Z/KPHL/KLAX cruising at 30,000 feet
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...2/history/20120929/1150Z/KCLT/KSAN cruised at 30,000 feet
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...9/history/20120930/1330Z/KCLT/KSEA cruised at 30,000 feet
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A.../history/20120930/1524Z/KCLT/KPHX/ cruised at 30,000 feet
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/A...2/history/20120930/1840Z/KCLT/KPHX cruised at 30,000 feet

But these are just a few...

[Edited 2012-09-30 17:43:57]

User currently offlinekgaiflyer From United States of America, joined Jul 2008, 4262 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3039 times:
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Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 15):
That's not completely true. US' a321s have been historically underpowered

Wasn't that the early 100 model?

USAirways never owned them. They own the 200 model.

I've flown A321s all over the US and coast-to-coast in Canada. I don't know where people get this 'underpowered' stuff.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22864 posts, RR: 20
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 3029 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 19):
Did a quick search and found a few....

But those "spot checks" tell us nothing. Where is other equipment on the same route cruising? I've cruised at 25,000 feet on a WN 73G with 20 passengers. Obviously, that has nothing to do with the airplane's capabilities.



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User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 3000 times:

Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 21):

I checked for all those routes and the other flightsmwere cruising at normal altitudes (34,000-37,000 feet), or else I would have posted them. You can check for yourself. I started a thread about this a few months ago and I am going off what I was told by multiple people told me. I'm not saying that they were all correct, but when numerous people say the same thing, I tend to think that something is probably correct.


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 22864 posts, RR: 20
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2991 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 22):
I checked for all those routes and the other flightsmwere cruising at normal altitudes (34,000-37,000 feet), or else I would have posted them.

All right. Why is PHX-CLT so much different? When I check that route, I see what I posted. I don't think flightaware can settle this argument. There are too many other variables.



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User currently offlineFutureUScapt From United States of America, joined Dec 2008, 765 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2991 times:

Quoting csturdiv (Reply 17):
Several years ago I got an E90 flight on ORD-CLT, was a nice change from the B734s that they use now. As I fly US a lot on ORD-CLT-RSW, I wish they would go back to the E90 on the ORD-CLT leg.

Not sure when the last time you flew US on ORD-CLT was, but the route is almost exclusively 321s nowadays - seven out of eight flights to be exact with some exceptions on Saturdays.


25 csturdiv : It has been about a year, maybe two since I last flew US ORD-CLT. My last flight was a B734, I know that much because I was thinking it might be my l
26 womenbeshoppin : Once in a blue moon you will see an E90 on the CLT and PHL to NAS route. And I believe I saw one on a PHL to MBJ route the other day. Nice little airc
27 spiritair97 : Where were you getting your information? Flightaware and a realtime PlaneFinder app are the only resources I have so if you have a better one I'll be
28 neveragain : The E190 is a rare visitor to CLT. Based on the October 2012 flight schedule, it is operating the following number of departures from CLT this month
29 USAirALB : US flies them PHL-MBJ, and occasionally places them on PLS-CLT/PHL.
30 Cubsrule : Flightaware. Today's flights . . . 680 (320): 35,000 300 (321): 35,000 302 (752): 37,000 304 (321): 35,000 306 (321): 33,000 1550 (321): Filed for 35
31 spiritair97 : Ok, I see I was wrong to say that the a321s have disadvantages. But in the summer you do see a lot of them flying lower, probably due to the heat. Yo
32 ABQopsHP : Is there a difference between the East US and the ones acquired for the West operations? Also, yes the YV CRJ-900s work well in hot/high temps. But h
33 boberito6589 : The older East 321s with the 1xx ship numbers have CFM engines are are generally the aircraft that tend to have an issue at times. The West and new E
34 neveragain : This is correct. It's a bit more complicated for the A321s operated on the east side of the airline. Boberito is correct that the initial A321 delive
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