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50 Years As Nations - Caribbean Aviation 102  
User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 1432 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 15223 times:

Greetings to all A.net patrons!



Welcome to the 102nd instalment of Caribbean Aviation!! It's awesome to see the explosive intellectual activity on our forum and it is certainly hoped that it will continue. This thread is dedicated to the both Trinidad and Tobago and Jamaica, as they both recently celebrated their golden jubilee of independence in the month of August.

Happy 50th Independence to both Trinidad and Tobago and Jamaica!!!!


Trinidad and Tobago gained its independence from the United Kingdom in 1962. Eric Williams, a noted Caribbean historian, widely regarded as "The Father of The Nation," was the first Prime Minister; he served from 1956, before independence, until his death in 1981.


In 1976, the country severed its links with the British monarchy and became a republic within the Commonwealth, though it retained the British Privy Council as its final Court of Appeal. Unlike most of the English-speaking Caribbean, Trinidad and Tobago's economy is primarily industrial, with an emphasis on petroleum and petrochemicals.Between the years 1972 and 1983, the Republic profited greatly from the rising price of oil, as the oil-rich country increased its living standards greatly.



Since 2003, the country has entered a second oil boom, a driving force which the government hopes to use to turn the country's main export back to sugar and agriculture. Tourism and the public service are the mainstay of the economy of Tobago, though authorities have begun to diversify the island. Trinidad and Tobago has since transitioned from an oil-based economy to a natural gas based economy.

Trinidad is one of the wealthiest and most developed nations in the Caribbean and is listed in the top 40 (2010 information) of the 70 High Income countries in the world. It has one of the highest GDP per capita of USD $20,300 (2011) in the Caribbean. In November 2011, the OECD removed Trinidad and Tobago from its list of Developing Countries. Trinidad's economy is strongly influenced by the petroleum industry. Tourism and manufacturing are also important to the local economy. Tourism is a growing sector, although not proportionately as important as in many other Caribbean islands


Trinidad and Tobago is known for its Carnival and is the birthplace of steelpan, calypso, soca, chutney and limbo.





Jamaica, officially Commonwealth of Jamaica, is the 4th largest island nation of the Greater Antilles. With 2.8 million people, it is the third most populous Anglophone country in the Americas, after the United States and Canada. Kingston is the country's largest city, with a population of 937,700, and is its capital. Jamaica has a large diaspora around the world consisting of Jamaican citizens migrating from the country.


Jamaica is a Commonwealth realm with Elizabeth II as Queen of Jamaica and head of state. Her appointed representative in the country is the Governor-General of Jamaica, currently Sir Patrick Allen. The head of government and Prime Minister of Jamaica is currently Portia Simpson-Miller. Jamaica slowly gained increasing independence from the United Kingdom and in 1958, it became a province in the Federation of the West Indies, a federation among the British West Indies. Jamaica attained full independence by leaving the federation in 1962.


Though a small nation, Jamaican culture has a strong global presence. The musical genres reggae, ska, mento, rocksteady, dub, and, more recently, dancehall and ragga all originated in the island's vibrant, popular urban recording industry. Jamaica also played an important role in the development of punk rock, through reggae and ska. Reggae has also influenced American rap music, as they both share their roots as rhythmic, African styles of music. Some rappers, such as The Notorious B.I.G. and Heavy D, are of Jamaican descent. Internationally known reggae musician Bob Marley is the most legendary and globally renowned Jamaican artist produced to date.



Sport is an integral part of national life in Jamaica and the island's athletes tend to perform to a standard well above what might ordinarily be expected of such a small country. While the most popular local sport is cricket, on the international stage Jamaicans have tended to do particularly well at Track and Field.


********News Feed********
CAL B738 experiences bird strike at GEO operating BW 525; no injuries, damage to a/c radome
WS to start daily POS-YYZ service Nov.16th using B73G
AA to increase its lucrative SKB-MIA from daily to 9x weekly in November
CAL recieves to ex LAN PW-powered B763Ws from ILFC; registered 9Y-LGW and 9Y-LHR
CAL expected to take delivery of 3rd B763W in Q2 of 2013
AA to start 1x weekly B738 RTB-MIA service on Nov. 17th
PY to start PBM-CAY-BEL service at the end of October
KX pilots upgrade to Ipads as EFBs
EZjet to begin 5x weekly GEO-POS service Oct. 2nd with BAE-146s
EZjet to begin weekly GEO-YYZ service October 4th
CAL takes delivery of fourth ATR-72-600 (9Y-TTD)
TAWU demands alleged outstanding monies to workers from LI
Tiara Air of Aruba to expand to FLL and various destinations in South America
CAL to launch 2 weekly GEO-YYZ service December 1st
Caricom Airways plans scehduled service to GEO, BGI, PBM and Brazil
Insel Air has painted one of its EMB-110s in its new livery
CAL to return to using JM logos/brand on CAL aircraft



Happy Posting


It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
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User currently onlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 613 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 15244 times:

Congrats to all the Trini/Jcans Islanders!

User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2628 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 15216 times:

RE; Jamaica 50th aniversary.
Somebody from Grand Cayman told me once that they were given the choice to be a part of Jamaica 50 years ago but they declined. I suppose The Cayman Island would have been like what Tobago is to Trinidad had they chose to be ruled from Kingston.

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):
AA to start 1x weekly B738 RTB-MIA service on Nov. 17th

Has that been confirmed.
AA is having lots and lots of cancellations and flights delays lately. Don't want to see that route die before it's supposed to start.



I'm not on CM's payroll.
User currently onlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 613 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 15095 times:

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 2):
RE; Jamaica 50th aniversary.
Somebody from Grand Cayman told me once that they were given the choice to be a part of Jamaica 50 years ago but they declined. I suppose The Cayman Island would have been like what Tobago is to Trinidad had they chose to be ruled from Kingston.

According to Wikipedia: "The islands continued to be governed as part of the Colony of Jamaica until 1962, when they became a separate Crown colony while Jamaica became an independent Commonwealth realm."

I once met a caymanian who was born in Jamaica but had the caymanian citizenship since birth as it was the "same" country...


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 789 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 14999 times:

I guess the cat is out the bag now...


Flying high
http://news.barbadostoday.bb/2012/09/27/flying-high/


Longstanding Caribbean airline LIAT is going to Europe on a special trip, but it is unclear how much the journey, expected to be at about $230 million, will cost Barbadian tax payers.

Two months after officials declined to divulge details of a plan to renew the company’s fleet of aircraft, it has emerged that negotiations to purchase six planes from France-based Avions de Transport Regional G.I.E have started.

And while LIAT Chairman Jean Holder revealed that two meetings had already been held with ATR’s principal’s on the purchase of the half dozen new ATR 42-600 50 seater planes, just how they will be paid for was still to be decided.

Additionally, once a deal is forged it will be another two to three years before the new aircraft bearing the LIAT name are able to take to the skies.

It was in late July at a Press conference in Barbados that shareholder prime ministers and the airline’s management announced they had reached a decision to purchase new planes, but declined to name the manufacturer or related costs.

Yesterday, however, Holder told Barbados TODAY that following that announcement actual negotiations had started.

“The position is that following the announcement made earlier that LIAT is to acquire a replacement for its 50-seater turboprop aircraft, negotiations have been undertaken with the chosen manufacturer, Avions de Transport Regional G.I.E.,” he said.

“These negotiations surround the proposal for the sale to LIAT of six ATR 42-600 aircraft from the manufacturer. The lead time after agreeing to the proposal would be two to three years for the delivery of all six aircraft.

“So far two meetings have been held at LIAT headquarters in Antigua between the respective representatives of LIAT and the ATR company. It is anticipated that there will be another two or three further meetings between the parties before agreement is reached on ATR’s sale proposal,” he told Barbados TODAY.

While senior aviation sources told this newspaper the likelihood was that shareholder governments Barbados, St. Vincent and the Grenadines and Antigua and Barbuda would likely have to contribute some of the millions needed to purchase, Holder said there had been no conclusion to discussions on how the planes would be bought.

ATR Media Relations Manager David Vargas said the current listed price for the planes LIAT is in discussion to acquire was about $39 million each, which meant any outright purchase of six of them would be about $234 million.

Holder said “the on-going negotiations are about price, delivery schedule, payment terms, financing etcetera. We will not therefore have answers to the financial questions you have posed until the negotiations are complete and we sign the proposal document”.

The chairman also noted while the first half dozen planes would have 50 seats like his organisation’s current fleet of planes, that would not be the end of the fleet renewal.

“With respect to the 50-seat aircraft, LIAT has determined that to carry out its present business missions, and cater for growth, it requires both 50-seat turbo-prop aircraft and larger (68/70 seat) aircraft,” he stated.

“The acquisition of six new 50-seat aircraft is the first step. The process for choosing the larger turbo-prop type has started and is expected to be completed later in 2012.

“We are presently refining the mission of the larger aircraft in our business plan to determine the exact number required to execute the plan.” Aviation industry sources questioned why LIAT was favouring the ATRS, asserting purchasing them would not make economic sense.

“I have heard that they have already decided on the ATRs – which is hard to understand as the Q400s are much faster, close to jet speeds, while the ATRs operate at the same speed as the current DASH 8s – the obvious advantage being that you get there faster as a passenger and as an airline you get in more trips in a day,” the source said.



You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2391 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 14891 times:

Thanks for starting the new thread BW424!

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 4):

I guess the cat is out the bag now...

lol I forgot LI was looking at new aircraft, Cant say that im surprised by the choice, the ATR 42 seems to be the best option at the moment for them considering Bombardier doesn't offer anything below 70 seats anymore.

I wonder if they'll go for the ATR 72 or the Dash 8-400 for their 'growth' plans:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 4):
With respect to the 50-seat aircraft, LIAT has determined that to carry out its present business missions, and cater for growth, it requires both 50-seat turbo-prop aircraft and larger (68/70 seat) aircraft,” he stated.



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User currently offlinetrintocan From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2000, 3238 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 14873 times:

Once again, congratulations to both Trinidad & Tobago and Jamaica on that important milestone - 50 years as independent countries. Both also have Olympic (and in Jamaica's case Paralympic) gold medals among others to celebrate alongside.

Quoting 2travel2know2 (Reply 2):
Somebody from Grand Cayman told me once that they were given the choice to be a part of Jamaica 50 years ago but they declined. I suppose The Cayman Island would have been like what Tobago is to Trinidad had they chose to be ruled from Kingston.

The history is a bit more complex than that as the Cayman Islands (and the Turks and Caicos Islands) had been separate British Crown Colonies but were later administered by Jamaica on behalf of Britain. In other words they were dependencies of Jamaica. They were thus part of the Federation as well. When Jamaica left the Federation and became independent, the Caymans and T&C decided to remain Crown Colonies. Tobago's case is somewhat different as it was only a dependency of Trinidad for ten years (1889-1899), during which time it still had its own Government. This ended in 1899 as it became a ward, or integral part, of Trinidad. As such Trinidad & Tobago is a unitary state and not a federation as Jamaica with the two Crown Colonies was, or St. Kitts - Nevis for that matter still are. The difference is that in federations each entity retains various Government structures and a right to self-determination (i.e. secession), something that does not happen by default in a unitary state.



Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 4):

“I have heard that they have already decided on the ATRs – which is hard to understand as the Q400s are much faster, close to jet speeds, while the ATRs operate at the same speed as the current DASH 8s – the obvious advantage being that you get there faster as a passenger and as an airline you get in more trips in a day,” the source said.

Makes you wonder where that source is placed in the grand scheme of things. Q400s are faster but are much larger than any Dash 8 - not many LI routes would be able to sustain that sort of capacity increase. Another point to remember is that the original De Havilland Canada had a long heritage of "bush-plane" building and so models such as the Caribou, Otter and Twin Otter have been well-regarded for being sturdy in various operating conditions. While this heritage was maintained with the Dash 7, notwithstanding its original design as a STOLport machine, the original Dash 8 represented something of a departure from history. The Q400 however represents a radical break with tradition by Bombardier as it is more in line with the CRJs and is meant as a more fuel-effective option for inter-city flights over distances up to around 1300 miles. The ATR appear to be more suited for shorter hops such as those LI operate and so it would be the best choice, given what is available now.

Trintocan.



Hop to it, fly for life!
User currently offlineBWIA 772 From Barbados, joined May 2002, 2200 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 14785 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 4):

“We are presently refining the mission of the larger aircraft in our business plan to determine the exact number required to execute the plan.” Aviation industry sources questioned why LIAT was favouring the ATRS, asserting purchasing them would not make economic sense.

“I have heard that they have already decided on the ATRs – which is hard to understand as the Q400s are much faster, close to jet speeds, while the ATRs operate at the same speed as the current DASH 8s – the obvious advantage being that you get there faster as a passenger and as an airline you get in more trips in a day,” the source said.

Clearly these Aviation industry sources have nothing more than a cursory understanding of the industry, airline operations and simple arithmetic! I for one am sick of these "industry sources" making these statements clearly showing their ignorance and inability to use google properly.

Anyways, I wonder if LI is also going to be undertaking additional capacity cuts. Right now they are operating between 11-13 Dash 8s IIRC. How many aircraft do they envision in their renewed fleet?


Regards
BWIA 772



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User currently onlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 613 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 14765 times:

well I believe we have discussed about that before! I'll miss the Dashes  but NOW the ATR seem to be the best option.... hope they don't come with MD or BAE ideas LOL !

User currently offlinepar13del From Bahamas, joined Dec 2005, 7229 posts, RR: 8
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 14745 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 4):
“I have heard that they have already decided on the ATRs – which is hard to understand as the Q400s are much faster, close to jet speeds, while the ATRs operate at the same speed as the current DASH 8s – the obvious advantage being that you get there faster as a passenger and as an airline you get in more trips in a day,” the source said.

Fleet commonality will be a factor, however, politics and financing can eradicate the benefit of same.
ATR has a 50 seater which Bombadier does not, ATR also has a larger model, so if they start off purchasing 6 50 seaters it makes sense to stay with the same OEM when getting the larger a/c, there is quite likely some commonality between the models.


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9823 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 14636 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 4):
“These negotiations surround the proposal for the sale to LIAT of six ATR 42-600 aircraft from the manufacturer. The lead time after agreeing to the proposal would be two to three years for the delivery of all six aircraft.

I'm not aware of the ATR having a delivery time of 2-3 years. Look at how fast Caribbean Airlines got 4 ATR's. The ATR production line to my knowledge really isn't that busy.

A388


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 14521 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 8):

the ATR opens up opportunities for cooperation in spare parts/engineers/maintenance between BW and LI. Both are cash strapped airlines whose govts are tired of supporting them. Or at least should be tired, given many more urgent priorities. Also the less these airlines depend on govt, HOPEFULLY, the less these govts will interfere.


User currently offlineLimaFoxTango From Antigua and Barbuda, joined Jun 2004, 789 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 14488 times:

Quoting A388 (Reply 10):
I'm not aware of the ATR having a delivery time of 2-3 years. Look at how fast Caribbean Airlines got 4 ATR's. The ATR production line to my knowledge really isn't that busy.

Remember, an airline may not be in a position to accept the aircraft as fast ATR can push them out. The rumour out there is LI will take 3 in 2013 and 3 in 2014. So yes, ATR will not take 3 years to build 6 aircraft, but LI may want to use that length of time to complete their fleet renewal program.



You are said to be a good pilot when your take-off's equal your landings.
User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14453 times:

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 12):

The lengthy delivery period is no doubt related to funding issues. For that matter its likely that not all of the BW ATRs that they will not take already have buyers, but LI isnt ready yet.


User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 14436 times:

Quoting BW424 (Thread starter):

Thank you for the new thread, congratulations to all Jamaicans, Trinidadians and Tobagonians on the 50th anniversary.

Quoting guyanam (Reply 13):

Except BW ordered the 72-600 and I do believe LI wants the 42-600.

GUYAIR707


User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 14417 times:

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 14):

Yes that is a point, but even if the smaller planes were available its likely that LIAT isnt ready yet. BGI owes UWI US$75 million, jeopardizing Cave Hill campus, and Bajan students in Jamaica and T&T. They are really flat broke. GND said it was going to buy shares in LI, but they had to borrow money from SVD to meet payroll last month. And two major banks in the E/Cbn were bailed out though no one seems willing to say which.

LI isnt a high priority right now.


User currently onlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 613 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 14394 times:

in the meanwhile Ezjet and CAL exchanging low blows! seems that CAL is rumoring that Ezjet will be the next Redjet and EZjet is flooding their facebook pages with videos of CAL "trying to win back guyanese after they were mistreated", EZjet has issued a statement:!

"Note to our Customers

We have heard many people saying we will be another Redjet. We are thrilled that Redjet aimed at providing ultra low fares to the market so you the customer can enjoy low fares. However, EZjet is EZjet and the amount of support you give us will ensure that we continue service in the market. Our low fares are calculated and we study many aspects to make sure that it will be safe for our airline and will ensure success as we progress."

From EZjet facebook page.


User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 1432 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 14336 times:

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 14):
Except BW ordered the 72-600 and I do believe LI wants the 42-600.

Well, the 72 is just a stretch of the 42 and all parts are identical. Therefore, cooperation between the two, if ever that happens will be effortless.

Quoting LimaFoxTango (Reply 4):
I guess the cat is out the bag now...


Flying high

The cat is indeed out of the bag! It's a pity to so biased sources talking about the suitability of the Q400 to LI's operations.


As for CAL, proving flights by the 763s are suppose to begin this Wednesday to YYZ. Another to LGW should be scheduled soon after.



It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
User currently offlineGUYAIR707 From Guyana, joined Jan 2011, 708 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 14285 times:

Quoting BW424 (Reply 17):

Yes I understand that but I was referring to LI taking the ones BW were giving up. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

GUYAIR707


User currently offlineBW424 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined exactly 6 years ago today! , 1432 posts, RR: 1
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 14171 times:

Quoting GUYAIR707 (Reply 18):
Yes I understand that but I was referring to LI taking the ones BW were giving up. Sorry if I didn't make that clear.

Oh, my apologies....

Well, two of the four not being taken have already been sold to Intersky in the EU and I reckon the other two will find homes pretty quickly.



It is what we think we know already that prevents us from learning.......
User currently offlineguyanam From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 1385 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 14163 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 16):

Both Ezjet and CAL need one of those carriers to drop out as the airfares are now quite unsustainable.
It appears as if Ez is drawing more blood from BW than from DL as BW is offering $400 INCLUDING FEES vs DL @ $500.

Having said that DL used to charge $700 for off peak travel so they arent unaffected either.


User currently onlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 613 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 13947 times:

Bahamas on the spotlight!

Police will keep close eye on pax's arriving from Panama, they believe it is becoming a "trend" for mules to travel from PTY to NAS in order to smuggle narcotics into the USA!

Source: http://www.thenassauguardian.com/ind...-drug-trend&catid=3:news&Itemid=27


AA to withdraw its ATR on the MIA NAS route! ERJ-145 will be used!

It's being discussed here AA ATR Withdrawal On MIA-NAS Complete Nov 15th (by N62NA Oct 2 2012 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlinecaribbean484 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Jan 2007, 2638 posts, RR: 1
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 13818 times:

Some interesting developments happening this week

Analysis: BA reasserts commitment to Caribbean
"The Caribbean forms the bedrock of British Airways’ long-haul schedule from Gatwick, with daily flights to Antigua, Saint Lucia and Barbados through the summer and increased frequencies in winter."
http://www.travelweekly.co.uk/Articles/Details/41757

But it seems that GND will see only One weekly flights from next year from BA and a committee will be meeting with CAL to have a 1w service to LGW with a subsidy for seats.
"Minister for Tourism Senator Dr George Vincent has confirmed that the Grenada Airlift Committee is in discussions with Caribbean Airlines to service the Grenada/London route.
The disclosure follows the announcement from British Airways last week that its twice weekly summer flights to Grenada will be reduced to Sundays only, beginning 2013."
http://www.caribbeannewsnow.com/head...to-service-London-route-12847.html

New LIAT CEO to address regional transportation issues at industry conference
" The burning and vexing issue of affordable and reliable intra-regional travel will be the focus of attention when the new LIAT CEO, Capt. Ian Brunton, makes his maiden appearance at the region’s premier tourism gathering.
Brunton, who took over at the helm of the regional carrier at the beginning of August, will join a panel of creative thinkers and doers seeking to identify solutions to a problem that has plagued Caribbean travellers for a number of years."
http://www.caribbeannewsnow.com/head...-at-industry-conference-12853.html



All ah we is one family
User currently onlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 613 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 13535 times:

Where's Yellowtail annoucing Tropic's new route BZE-CUN just saw on their facebook page!

User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6180 posts, RR: 2
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 13237 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 23):
Where's Yellowtail annoucing Tropic's new route BZE-CUN ?  just saw on their facebook page!

Sorry, I posted it on the C. american forum.

The also announced BZE/SPR-MYF.....which is San Ignacio (Western Belize)

Regionally they now have from BZE...FRS, GUA, SAP, and CUN.....I guess remaining on the hit list is MID, GCM, RTB and LCE



When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
25 Post contains images andrefranca : Just a bit off topic! Congrats to the West Indies for winning the 2012 Cricket World Cup!
26 Post contains images BW424 : Congrats to them. They won the T20 World Cup which is a reduced overs (20) version of the game. The actual World Cup is 50 overs. In other news, it's
27 windowflyer : Thanks. But... Technically it's "THE ICC WORLD TWENTY20 TOURNAMENT" not The Cricket World Cup. The next World Cup is in 2015 CAL's "new" 767s look in
28 andrefranca : Thanks for the Info! OMG, this is so sad, I saw LIAT informing their pax via facebook that the runway is closed, and is supposed to be open only from
29 BW424 : To give a bit of a summary, the B763s are going to be with CAL for an initial period of 5 years (leased from the ILFC). Both aircraft are around 17 y
30 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Well from the info ive gathered last night, the FlyM aircraft involved is VP-MON. there are many reports indicating bad weather and that the aircraft
31 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Update via MNIalive: Source: http://www.mnialive.com/lifestyle/is...arding-plane-crash-in-antigua.html
32 A388 : Very sad news indeed!!! R.I.P. to all those gone and as already mentioned, a speedy recovery of the survivor. So for now JFK will be seeing two Carib
33 caribbean484 : Yes congrats to the West Indies cricket team Very sad indeed. No so far the rotation will just be POS-GEO-JFK-GEO-POS 3w, and then POS-GEO-YYZ-GEO-PO
34 Post contains images A388 : Great thanks for the clarification That is great for Caribbean Airlines, thanks again Caribbean484. So the addition of those 76W's lead to more peopl
35 guyanam : Ok Andre which citizenship do you want? Its time you stop being an honorary West Indian and become a real one. Pick your favorite CARICOM country....
36 N312RM : The only thing I would make clear in this discussion is that at the time of Jamaica gaining its independence, Cayman was given a choice by the UK gov
37 Post contains images andrefranca : Hahaha hey it's tough question! You know I used to play what we call here "Tacoball" when I was small, it has the principles of cricket but we had no
38 windowflyer : Thanks for the info.
39 yellowtail : Once he gets here next year, he will never want to go to the eastern Caribbean again! And yes we do play cricket in Belize.....
40 2travel2know2 : Quite off topic but.. Add to those Brazilians with connections to India/Pakistan, South Africa and UK. And in Panama too, but now a days it's mostly E
41 guyanam : Well Belize does intrigue me. Belizeans are the same anomaly of being the only English speaking country in your region as are Guyanese.; Though you a
42 beeweel15 : Cant they place an order for the 787's and they be delivered when the leases for the 767's expier in 5 years.
43 GUYAIR707 : The news is also saying that a Guyanese woman was onboard. Condolences to the families. GUYAIR707
44 817Dreamliiner : Thats correct, names were released today. The lone survivor is doing well from what ive heard, other than that nothing new yet.
45 A388 : You must have the money to lease those 787's which they apparently don't have now, especially if they also want to replace their 737-800 fleet with t
46 guyanam : And especially if the LGW route doesnt work out they might want to just stay with an all 737 fleet after the lease expires and not be obligated to an
47 GUYAIR707 : I do believe that some routes have outgrown the 738 (JFK-POS/GEO), especially during the peak season. That being said, yields have to be considered,
48 LimaFoxTango : For my own enlightenment, what is the purpose of these proving flights and what is exactly learnt from them? Just a general question as many airlines
49 caribbean484 : No the third is for CAL to always offer its won services in case of a breakdown or maintenance, there will be more schedule added to both 767s in the
50 2travel2know2 : Did BW close Air Jamaica station @ BWI, if there's still a BW (Air Jamaica) presence in BWI, then if taking about BW to WAS, Why BW doesn't fly to BW
51 guyanam : The problem is that Caribbean govts are hypocritical about the UK APD killing the UK market. If you ever look at a LIAT ticket you will see that as m
52 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Preliminary Report on the crash of MNT107: Source: http://www.mnialive.com/lifestyle/is...crash-says-preliminary-report.html
53 817Dreamliiner : More info just released: Information Source: ECCAA Accident Investigation All times in this report are UTC; Antigua time is UTC - 4 hrs The investigat
54 andrefranca : Geeeeee, too early for speculations OF COURSE, but reminds of a crash we had few years ago here in MAO, there was also high quantities of water in th
55 Post contains links and images BWIA 772 : It seems that Mr Brunton has hit the ground running.... hopefully under his stewardship rationalization at LI can happen. Taken from the October 12 on
56 andrefranca : Which routes you think will be cut? I think SDQ-ANU and POS-CUR
57 Post contains links Beeski : a Piper Aztec doing the morning TISX-TIST newspaper run crashed into the ocean approx 8 miles from St. Thomas. early word is one survivor, one fatalit
58 817Dreamliiner : Heard about this aswell. Its not been a good week at all.
59 A388 : Loads to CUR have always been decent so I don't know if they will cut this route. A388
60 guyanam : If those routes werent profitable they would ahve been cut a while back. CUR is a shopping route and SDQ is a reverse VFR route, i.e. people from the
61 LimaFoxTango : With the exception of perhaps NEV and CIW (which may become seasonal), I doubt any routes will be "cut". What I do know, is certain destinations will
62 trintocan : LI - sadly the news just keeps getting worse all of the time. Captain Brunton is a man I respect highly as he has considerable knowledge of Caribbean
63 guyanam : Well if you are right I dont see how LI will get more govt support. GND will simply seek to use BW. They already seem to have good relationships with
64 trintocan : I recall last year when CIW was cut by LI, they said that it was more suited for a charter type of operation. This tends to be in line with what you
65 guyanam : BweeX flew to SLU 2X from BGI and 1X from POS. this with their dash 8 300s. The BGI flights were to connect with their JFK and MIA routes. Indeed the
66 Post contains images andrefranca : With my little experience island hopping around the caribbean, I can state that: Caribbean is not cheap but can't make a lot of money neither at the
67 trintocan : You're spot on. I stand corrected. Trintocan.
68 LimaFoxTango : I wouldn't go that far and say that. LI does attract a good load to GEO, most of whom goes to places BW does not serve. As you said, BW is simply che
69 A388 : I would also prefer jet service, but LI flies passengers from the other islands to CUR. PY doesn't do that and no matter how you look at it, LI is ju
70 Post contains links and images A388 : I have a few new photos added to the database. See them here: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Photography A388
71 817Dreamliiner : Just heard that there was another flymontserrat accident, this time in MNI. Aircraft is off the runway in the grass. Saw some pics of the accident doe
72 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : link with a photo: http://www.gov.ms/?p=7203
73 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : FlyMontserrat has been banned from flying into any ECCAA territory effectively grounding the airline. BRADES, Montserrat (GIU) – No injuries have be
74 Post contains images andrefranca : Ohhhh No! and now how am I going to visit MNI? can't even book a flight online with Fly SVG!
75 817Dreamliiner : You beat me to it, was gonna post something similar. The aircraft involved was VP-MNT, funnily enough, ive been on that aircraft on my one and only f
76 andrefranca : That would be great thank you!
77 guyanam : AXA seems quite reconciled to being a "ferry ride away" from SXM. LI will bring in UK traffic, and maybe some from STT and ANU (and SKB via ANU). But
78 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : The numbers are on this page at the bottom: http://www.abm-air.com/index.html You would be able to pay at the airport in ANU Though, you shouldnt wor
79 LimaFoxTango : That always seem to be the train of thought until LI goes and then the govt scramble to either get the airline back or some alternate arrangement. I
80 817Dreamliiner : Well it all depends on what the circumstances are, and what they have to do to get back in the air. I dont have that info, but im just going on what
81 andrefranca : The way you talk, even before the accidents, seems something very wrong has always being around Flymntsrrt!
82 817Dreamliiner : Well to be fair, an airline that charges 1000xcd (approx. 370 USD) for a roundtrip between MNI and ANU (2 15 minut flights) deserves to get grounded
83 A388 : Not necessarily, Dutch and German tourists do look at price. I was just explaining that the higher prices doesn't necessarily have to do with local p
84 Post contains links and images A388 : Tiara Air's sole 737 was in Curacao on a charter flight. See my photo below: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Photo
85 guyanam : Guyanese traveling to POS,GND,SLU,BGI,ANU and SXM will be quite welcome to fly BW. The only problem will be Guyanese traveling to SVD,SKB, and EIS. I
86 Post contains images andrefranca : Ever tried a Canadian visa? I already filled like 6 or 7 forms, my application looks like a book LOL! very big hassle and 300 usd fee against 140 usd
87 A388 : In that you are right but the "let's charge the double or triple for tourists things"! applies to all countries where tourism is important so countri
88 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Capt Ian Brunton: 35% of LIAT’s flights subsidised Frigate Bay, St Kitts: Thirty-five per cent of 112 daily flights by LIAT are described by the air
89 guyanam : The wallets of tourists scream OUCH when they visit the Caribbean, more than in many other sun/sand destinations. When this comes with wait staff too
90 trintocan : LI do not serve AUA. The British Virgin Islands are outside Caricom and they form the 7th destination outside of the grouping. Trintocan.
91 LimaFoxTango : A case of sloppy reporting i guess. I assume they meant St. Maarten which would make it 8 or even 9 if you consider the USVI as two (STT & STX).
92 andrefranca : We've seeing a lot of changes in LI so far! seems that Brunton is working hard to change it! so maybe we'll soon see: 1- web check-in? 2- interlines?
93 ahlfors : I doubt these are LIAT employees. More likely government employees.
94 Post contains links and images A388 : The most beautiful cargo livery made a stop in Curacao last week. See my photo below: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviat
95 guyanam : I guess still no news about when the 767s will begin to operate. Hopefully before Xmas otherwise it will get expensiove as CAL has an aggressive LGW s
96 Post contains images A388 : More photos I took in Curacao have been added now: A388[Edited 2012-10-22 11:52:38]
97 caribbean484 : 9Y-LHR is slated to start its initial services this week to LGW and 9Y-LGW is slated to start soon also. Once again nice photos man keep them coming.
98 GUYAIR707 : EZjet has a special promotion, pay one fee fly as many times as you like to one of their destinations for the month. GUYAIR707
99 andrefranca : I've seen it, LIAT used to have it prior to 2009!
100 guyanam : Silly. Every time the plane takes off it burns fuel, pays crews, and landing fees. It also has over heads. Why after being around for almost a year d
101 airfrancejfk : I checked out the rules for their new pass. Looks like you pay a flat rate for the pass, and then the taxes on the days you want to travel. Pass book
102 guyanam : When EZjet fails they will blame CAL, just as Redjet did when they had a similarly flawed strategy.
103 GUYAIR707 : Now it's being EZJet's owner Sonny Ramdeo embezzled 5.4 million US $$. Will give the link in a few minutes once I get to my PC. GUYAIR707
104 caribbean484 : Something like this is not announced in public under the rules they have provided, so it seems they have a serious load problem on the market along w
105 Post contains links GUYAIR707 : So here's the link, I cannot verify it's accuracy. It appears if true that it's a civil case, not a criminal one. http://www.courthousenews.com/2012/
106 caribbean484 : My goodness this does not sound good and now we know where he is getting the money from the keep the airline alive? If this is true and it goes to co
107 GUYAIR707 : I am concerned for the pax that are scheduled to fly on EZjet. I guess if the Plaintiffs win then assets will be seized and EZjet may be closed, unle
108 caribbean484 : I'm no lawyer, but I think it will get worse since they may also bring fraud charges against him and tie up all of his assets including EZJet in orde
109 GUYAIR707 : I agree with you. I am surprised the IRS didn't prosecute first, but they may hold the company liable, and then he is charged criminally for fraud. W
110 BW424 : Very very startling developments. But, one can say that this EZjet outfit was beginning to look fishy once they announced their intentions to do regi
111 andrefranca : They're flooding the facebook with annoucements! local manager to be temporary CEO.
112 Post contains images andrefranca : Dutch Antilles Express just anounced on their facebook page! Starting from Nov 16th DAILY flights to PBM! from CUR, possible to conect to 6 destinatio
113 guyanam : Ezjet entered the market failing to understand that competitors will respond. Yes people were upset with Delta's high fares on the JFK GEO. Yes many
114 GUYAIR707 : I hope she is capable, wasn't too impressed with what I have seen till now in the media. Unbelievable. I hope he is able to clear his name, if not, w
115 Post contains links caribbean484 : Ok maybe you or A388 can say, but is there a demand for 3 airlines on that 1 route more so the the number of seats allocated? Is this sustainable? I
116 A388 : I don't think there is enough demand. DAE is competing heavily against Insel Air so let's see who will turn out the winner. They have a fleet of 1 AT
117 andrefranca : After all the reports, let's see what happens, but sad to see another caribbean airlines going down! if they do end their services, once again BW and
118 caribbean484 : Ok thanks, because between Insel and Suriname have 3w flights and DAE has now daily, that can't be sustainable but we will see. Well reality sets in
119 guyanam : Is there anough business out of PBM to destinations served by Dutch Antilles to justify a daily service? Insel will definitely be hurt but I can imag
120 andrefranca : Surinameses may be loyal to PY but PY's flight to CUR stops in POS, so I don't know if they'll take that into account, unless the price is sweet! But
121 Post contains links BW424 : Since it hasn't been reported on this forum as yet, Yesterday (26/10/12), CAL's latest ATR delivered, 9Y-TTD had an exterior engine panel come off aft
122 BE77 : Long going diplomatic spat I think - getting a visa for Brasil isn't any easier - I need to go there next month and it's about the same deal, so we'r
123 guyanam : Well PY has great ambitions of GEO JFK/YYZ nonstops. If BW drops out, especially the JFK nonstop, PY jumps in. They already seem to be doing well on
124 andrefranca : I did my personal research, I asked my CARICOM friends: "Which CARICOM national even the caribbean countries that are not CARICOM, which do you hate
125 BE77 : This and the rest of your post works too...the reality is that the service providers really need to get themselves and their staff on the right page
126 A388 : Andrefranca, this is all nonsense. Surinamese are very loyal to their own airline and their flights to Curacao are full of Surinamese and Trinidad ci
127 andrefranca : Are you still sleeping? LOL PY? if you READ my post again, I did write Dutch Antilles (Express) which are rarely on time (5 flights all delayed, agai
128 A388 : You should be clear, Dutch Antilles isn't an airline, those are islands. Be clear. Why use IATA codes for PY and not 9H and 7I or don't you know the
129 BE77 : Well, their on time performance is OK, but not quite every time - in my own experience this year they are about on par with BW and 7I, which is to sa
130 andrefranca : Everytime someone says something not so gentle about DAE, A388 gets hurt, I think he may work for them or be close friend to them! I'm afraid I'll ne
131 A388 : Andrefranca, I work at the airport and see the on-time performance of all airlines flying to/from the airport. You now have the confirmation from som
132 Avianca : well both airlines are poor no doubt, just back from a trip CCS-CUR-CCS and DAE, the return flight was good and on time, but the CCS-CUR was delayed
133 A388 : They both have their ups and downs yes, but I wouldn't say that they are poor performers. In the same way I have seen all three Insel Air MD80 outgoi
134 yellowtail : To be fair, I know a bunch of people that work in airlines (even one EVP) of airlines that post on a.net and none of them have that they work for an
135 A388 : In other words, you don't trust my post either. Again, does any of you (Yellowtail/Andrefranca/anybody else?) think I work for DAE or any other airli
136 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Well as stated in my previous post FlyMontserrat has managed to find its way back into the air and will resume flights as of tomorrow: Source: http://
137 Post contains images andrefranca : I believe their service is vital the MNI right? well If I really make it to MNI next year, I'll give it a try! To A388, not necessary to spend skype
138 A388 : You were saying that I might be friends with them so you were not only wondering, but actually thinking that I was. But okay let's leave it to this.
139 Post contains images A388 : Hello all, I have a few more photos in the database. View them in below links: Cheers, A388
140 Avianca : btw I am wondering how Arkefly is performing out of CUR. the last 2 times I was in CUR the flight was heavly delayed by minimum 5 hours.
141 A388 : Those flights are doing fine too. The big delays as you have experienced don't happen often. As they now have slightly younger 767's in their fleet (
142 N312RM : Just picked this story up on Cayman News Service website: cnsbusiness.com: (CNS Business): During his recent trip to Asia the Cayman Islands premier s
143 A388 : I think I can say with 99.99% accuracy that those 77W's will never reach GCM. PR needs these aircraft in the Philippines for expansion. Basing 777's
144 Post contains links and images A388 : Hello guys, one of my photos is on the frontpage again. See it in below link: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Phot
145 Post contains links and images A388 : My latest photo added features my window view on my Avianca flight to Bogota at sunset. See the photo by clicking on below link: View Large View Mediu
146 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Well there are people with that belief, for me, not so much...(I prefer to fly the competition i.e. SVG air) They are used for medivacs though, so I
147 Post contains links caribbean484 : Hope your members in NYC area are all ok after the hurricane. CAL is said to be going to use an Omni 777 to help with the heavy backlog of pax strande
148 Post contains links BW424 : AATT chairman: Piarco, ANR Airports to undergo major upgrade "Declaring that the Piarco International Airport (PIA) was inadequately designed, Ger
149 caribbean484 : These people have not one iota of a new idea. This was part of a master plan from Lok Jack days to improve POS and have CAL ops there much more effic
150 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Just announced on CAL's facebook page: CARIBBEAN AIRLINES 767-ER300s TAKE TO THE AIR (their words not mine) Link: http://www.caribbean-airlines.com/in
151 Post contains links N312RM : Hopefully we will have more information next week when further details are released in the Assembly by the Premier. I will post. Lots of chatter abou
152 guyanam : That sample must have had too mnay Jamaicans. They are the most hated gorup, aside from Guyanese. Whats interesting i8s that Jamaicans and Guyanese h
153 Post contains images andrefranca : I guess my sample had too many trinis! PS- And now Tiara air with their "fresh" 737, let the show begin! BTW GUYS, CONGRATS TO ALL DOMINICANS! Today
154 Post contains images yellowtail : this conflicts with this As mentioned above, I for one don't believe you work for an airline.....you would have much better facts / data (JUST JOKING!
155 andrefranca : Can someone in Guyana please confirm that a "particular" newspaper has being publishing lots of artciles about Ezjet? is this the end for them? how lo
156 A388 : And what on earth are those 77W's going to be useful for in GCM? You do also know that those aircraft will be Phillipines registrations? That is the
157 2travel2know2 : After what happened yesterday in the state of Colorado U.S. Who's going to jump at DEN-MBJ,route UA or F9? Joke aside, that's actually a seasonal 1-2
158 LimaFoxTango : Been rather quiet on here of late. I guess no news is good news...
159 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : Guess I spoke too soon. BREAKING NEWS: US, Guyana suspend Ezjet airline Ezjet airline's operations have been suspended by the United States Department
160 guyanam : No surprise. This time I have no sympathy for the stranded passengers as well as those who will now have to buy a new ticket a a high price for Xmas t
161 andrefranca : RIP, Ezjet! another one down!
162 Post contains links and images caribbean484 : I mentioned that almost a month ago that any airline the size of EZjet that requires such a large infusion of cash for two months of operations has a
163 guyanam : Rumors have it that the former President Jagdeo and senior members of the ruling party have hidden interests in EZjet, hence their braying about the
164 trintocan : It's very unfortunate to hear about the mess that EZJet has caused. Some people seem to feel that running an airline is a simple matter and an easy ca
165 Post contains links caribbean484 : Well today the Guyanese Government is to meet with CAL officials to transport the pax their destinations, according to reports there are about 25000
166 Post contains links caribbean484 : After reading this article I have to laugh at the business dealing of this airline "EZjet today insisted that it has not shut down. In a detailed stat
167 BW424 : I guess it was only a matter of time once the news of the ex CEO's allegations surfaced. And as other members on here have stated; this is basically
168 Post contains links caribbean484 : Well it gets worse from here on out, as mentioned before something like fraud cases are long and complicated. The question was asked why the IRS and
169 2travel2know2 : Currently having an Universal Guyana flashback.
170 GUYAIR707 : I don't think Universal's demise was anything this dramatic. If Ramdeo is guilty, then I cannot fathom how he could appear in public and keep a strai
171 caribbean484 : But what is there to defend? The DOT is accusing them of funneling money to another bank not agree to in their operating license. They are also owing
172 GUYAIR707 : Sorry I meant trying to defend themselves. On BW425 tonight. Hoping for an ontime flight and to see some CAL 738s in POS and GEO. Or a 763!! GUYAIR70
173 BW424 : What's very funny is that they still seem to have a penchant for bashing CAL even in their self-inflicted troubles. On their fb page, they're erroneo
174 Post contains links and images BW424 : "CAL vice-chairman loses Sued in Win TV case" "A high court judge has ruled in favour of a company which claimed that Caribbean Airline's (CAL) vice-c
175 817Dreamliiner : Its really sad seeing what is happening with EZjet. Was never a supporter of them, but I guess a shut down was imminent. Hope you have a safe flight!
176 caribbean484 : Have a good flight, hopefully you will get the 767 on your way back. 9Y-LGW is in testing phase. Well we have to remember Redjet, when they blamed ev
177 Post contains links and images A388 : A very strange looking and an odd aircraft to see at most airports has visited Curacao last week. See my photo of it: View Large View MediumPhoto © R
178 GUYAIR707 : Thanks guys, had a safe flight, worked like clockwork. 9Y-TAB worked as 425 last night. I did see 9Y-LHR on the hard stand off to the west of POS ter
179 A388 : Are all JM painted 738's without the Air Jamaica titles now or are a few still flying with Air Jamaica titles? A388
180 GUYAIR707 : I saw 2, JMA with Caribbean decals and JMC with Air Jamaica titles. GUYAIR707
181 A388 : Thanks GUYAIR707. Talking about Caribbean Airlines and Air Jamaica, how is the operation going now? I haven't seen any discussions in the Jamaican thr
182 caribbean484 : Well JMA is the only one so far, from what is being said the others will be kept as there is now an agreement to use the Air Jamaica name by the TTCA
183 Post contains images A388 : Thanks so there still is hope for me to photograph these Air Jamaica birds. They were flying to Curacao twice and I missed it on both occasions!!! LO
184 GUYAIR707 : Hence LGW being in the hangar. I took a few pics will post when I get back to NY. I am a zombie right now from the "red eye". I won't be lucky with t
185 guyanam : Universal's demise was simple. They didnt pay the copmany providing the aircraft (I believe it was TACA) and their poor financial stste precluded any
186 andrefranca : Hey guys just announced on facebook: Surinam Airways will codeshare with Insel air! "Dankzij de overeenkomst tussen Surinam Airways en InselAir kun je
187 guyanam : I assume that Insel will discontinue service to PBM, but still be able to offer it as an option, except that it will be on PY. Maybe that might get t
188 BE77 : I think this is to help consolidate the PBM -CUR market, as well as add a few opportunities for PY to feed into 7I for flights out of CUR. Right now
189 BW424 : Glad that you had a nice and timely trip down. Looking forward to the pictures Well, as 484 said, the JM titles are staying for now.....another backw
190 beeweel15 : Two liveries could work if done properly. Just look at IAG with BA/IB
191 BW424 : That because they are two separate airlines under one holding company. Similar situation with LATAM, AF-KLM and formerly AV-TA. In both these cases,
192 Post contains links BW424 : "Trouble on CAL jet" "ON the heels of State-owned Caribbean Airlines (CAL) coming to the rescue of stranded EZjet passengers is the news that a CAL pl
193 Post contains images A388 : Interesting times ahead indeed. Guyanam made some good remarks on this. Also, thanks for the explanation on the Air Jamaica livery on those 738's A38
194 guyanam : Except face it there is no "one" single indigenous Caribbean identity. Jamaicans are Jamaicans, Trinis are Trinis and at no point will they ever meet
195 A388 : I tend to agree with you on this but I don't have the statistics on this. Maybe DAE is just taking the risk to attempt to steal the market from Insel
196 beeweel15 : It can be done and I have a plan to do it thats all I can say but sadly the folks dont want a fellow west indian to show them the way to do it and ma
197 andrefranca : I was searching around on Insel's page, flights to PBM in 2013 still bookable!
198 BW424 : Isn't that what any airline's existence is based on? Meeting the needs of the target market? Well, I really do not expect BW to be accepted wholehear
199 A388 : Yes, I read this in the local newspapers yesterday. Insel Air will continue flying to PBM so there will be 9 weekly flights (Insel Air and Surinam Ai
200 Post contains links and images A388 : My newest photo addition to the database made it to the frontpage. See it here: View Large View MediumPhoto © Roger Cannegieter - Curacao Aviation Ph
201 turk223 : I was I could make this argument as convincingly as you two... I am no airline executive, but what you wrote just makes sense. As well, the airline i
202 guyanam : Question. Did CAL name one of its aircraft after Usain Bolt, easily the best known West Indian now? If it didnt (it namjed one after a Trini athlete
203 andrefranca : At least on that I need to take my hat off to LIAT, their crew are very multicultural, on almost every flight I took with them, the crew was from som
204 turk223 : Well, perhaps I am harkening back to the "good ol' days". As a Bajan, I always had a sense that the "old" BeeWee (the steelpan days) was very much Wes
205 guyanam : bWIA had all T&T crews, except for those who had T&T citizenship/residence. CAL continues that tradition, aside from its KIN base. If the wea
206 bw415 : What exactly is a pan-Caribbean flavour? Is there anywhere in the Caribbean that offers this? Liat seems to be a hodge podge of something that I woul
207 Post contains links JM02 : Jamaica has scored its biggest gain to date out of central Europe with direct flights from Russia, France, Czech Republic and Scandinavia. TUI have co
208 guyanam : When Guyanese, Jamaicans and other suffer abuse, at times even physical, at the hands of authorities in POS, BGI and ANU, I do not see this as indica
209 GUYAIR707 : Excellent news for Jamaica. Good to hear a 787 will be in the West Indies. GUYAIR707
210 A388 : Who will operate the Czech and French flights and from which airport/city will Transaero fly to Jamaica? A388
211 817Dreamliiner : More than likely it will MBJ
212 A388 : Thanks 817Dreamliiner but I meant from which cities will the Russian charter flights be operated to MBJ? Also which airlines will do the Czech and Fr
213 817Dreamliiner : Sorry, I misread your post! I just reread JM02's post as well: There was mention of Corsair in the JA thread, havent seen anything regarding the Czec
214 Post contains links JM02 : Flights to Jamaica will be operated by Excel Airways France and their base is CDG, so we are likely to see CDG-MBJ each friday. http://www.look-voyag
215 A388 : Okay thanks guys, I overlooked that post mentioning Moscow. Please keep me informed about those Czech charters. I'm still wondering who will operate i
216 Post contains links caribbean484 : American Airlines to Add Grenada Flight "American Airlines will be re-introducing a fourth flight to Grenada beginning next week, the government annou
217 Post contains images A388 : Good to read and all the best to them. With both Insel Air and DAE expanding we may need a bigger airport!!! A388
218 Caymanair : Jetblue has begun their services to GCM, 3x weekly from JFK and 1x weekly from BOS. Talks are ongoing with PAL, as far as I can see, despite the leake
219 Post contains links caribbean484 : Try this? As before just select the country and month, plus anything else to see the loads http://www.transtats.bts.gov/DL_Sele...D=261&DB_Short_
220 andrefranca : The brazilian firms already struggle to deliver good product in Brazil, I wonder abroad! lol! unless it's ODEBRECHT, I have my doubts!
221 2travel2know2 : I'm so sorry for ANU if it's Odebrecht who's going to have to do something with the runway.
222 Post contains links LimaFoxTango : The first company that started works on the runway and ramp was Andrade Gutierrez. They left prematurely due lack of payment from the government. See
223 A388 : How is this acceptable? On what do you base this acceptance? What opportunities does PAL see in a link with an airline and a region they don't have a
224 Caymanair : The 777, as far as I can understand, will never be seen on a KX route. they would be purchased by KX from PAL with cash PAL has provided, and wet-lea
225 andrefranca : AGutierrez should be more reliable, they're building my city's stadium for the world cup, and we're on schedule, only the stadium because the airport
226 Post contains links and images 817Dreamliiner : Hey Guys, I finally managed to take a break from the studies and do some plane spotting at MAN airport yesterday, thought Id share a few pics from my
227 A388 : I certainly enjoy them 817Dreamliiner!!! How lucky are you to have so many airlines at your local airport there!!! One tip, you will get better resul
228 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Yea Im pretty lucky studying here in Manchester, there's always so much variety in airlines and aircraft here and being from the Caribbean and Montse
229 GUYAIR707 : Flew BW526 tonight GEO-JFK. Smooth flight and on time, operated by Omni Air International. Flight was full to capacity. GUYAIR707
230 andrefranca : just one question my montserrat friend? what's goat water? LOL :x
231 A388 : Isn't this flight supposed to be operated by Caribbean Airlines' own 76W? A388
232 Post contains links caribbean484 : Switched last week because of the EZjet situation, so they are leasing an Omni 270 seater 767 for the period. LIAT CEO reiterates Company’s commitm
233 Post contains images 817Dreamliiner : Lol, its Montserrat's national dish, its like a stew with mutton and other stuff in it (never made it myself before). Its really delicious, and you s
234 A388 : What are Caribbean Airlines' own 767's doing now? I thaught BW526 was a scheduled flight that is supposed to be operated by Caribbean Airlines' own m
235 caribbean484 : On the ground sun bathing lol. I'm not sure why they did this, I would have just increase the flights needed owned equipment.
236 Post contains links BW424 : New forum up guys! 'Tis The Season - Caribbean Aviation Thread 103 (by BW424 Nov 24 2012 in Civil Aviation)
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