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Report: Oneworld Announcement Due 8th Oct  
User currently offlineGSTBA From UK - England, joined Apr 2010, 465 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 17428 times:

http://www.arabianaerospace.aero/qat...ium=organic&utm_campaign=news_feed

According to this article "a significant membership development will take place on 8 October in New York. The online news service said it had seen documents that said the meeting would include Bruce Ashby, chief executive of Oneworld, Tom Horton, chairman and chief executive of American Airlines, and Willie Walsh, chief executive of International Airlines Group (IAG).

The article states that US media reports suggest that the announcement will be that QR will join OW. QR recently denied reports that they were in talks with BA to set up a agreement like that recently reached between EK and QF. QR have however not denied or confirmed reports that they are to join OW.

Personally I think there is a high chance that this report is true.

Is it also possible that the announcement could be that OW will add more than one new member??. If so who??

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User currently offlineLHRFlyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2010, 816 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 17421 times:

Well if you believe some of the threads on here it must be Oneworld announcing the closure of the alliance because there's just no point any more because of the EK and QF partnership!!

The fact that the announcement is in the Americas suggests that it might be TAM. I would have thought an announcement regarding QR would take place on the other side of the atlantic, but you never know.


User currently offlineby738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2328 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 17376 times:

isnt the HQ of OW in US making it equally as likely ?

User currently offlineBill142 From Australia, joined Aug 2004, 8451 posts, RR: 8
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 17260 times:

Quoting LHRFlyer (Reply 1):
The fact that the announcement is in the Americas suggests that it might be TAM. I would have
thought an announcement regarding QR would take place on the other side of the atlantic, but you never know.

Doubt it's TAM. Since Willie Walsh is showing up it will be IAG sponsoring QR into oneworld. Tim Horton will only be there in capacity as oneworld chairman.

If you look at all the public love making between Walsh and Al Baker lately, seems obvious.


User currently offlineLHRFlyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2010, 816 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 17112 times:

I suppose this could be a non-denial denial but QR is insisting it's not joining Oneworld:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...ays-oneworld-idUSBRE88T06J20120930

Quote:
Qatar Airways has no plans to join the oneworld airline alliance, its Chief Executive Akbar al-Baker said on Sunday, dismissing reports that the airline had become the newest member of the group as "rumor."

Asked if the carrier would join oneworld, which includes British Airways, owned by IAG (ICAG.L), Baker said: "No, we will not. It's all rumors."


User currently offlineetops1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 1092 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 16475 times:

Anyone ever think it could be USAirways joining Oneworld ?

User currently offlineAtrude777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 5692 posts, RR: 52
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 16373 times:

Quoting etops1 (Reply 5):
Anyone ever think it could be USAirways joining Oneworld ?

If we're to follow history of what United and Continental did, CO left Sky Team to join Star Alliance before the merger happened, it could be possible that US would be joining it if that was the example we used.

Very excited to hear what the actual news is!

Alex



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User currently offlineUSAirALB From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 3084 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 15771 times:

Quoting etops1 (Reply 5):
Anyone ever think it could be USAirways joining Oneworld ?

        

Good possibility this could be it.



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User currently offlineT8KE0FF From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2009, 419 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 15667 times:

Quoting LHRFlyer (Reply 1):
Well if you believe some of the threads on here it must be Oneworld announcing the closure of the alliance because there's just no point any more because of the EK and QF partnership!!

I just choked on my food whilst reading that, hahah! Seriously looking forward to what comes out of this on the 8th...



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User currently offlineripcordd From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1170 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 15627 times:

I would suspect it will be an anoucement of 2 or 3 carriers joining OW, along with that all OW at LHR will be using BA services

User currently offlineLHRFlyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2010, 816 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 15503 times:

I am inclined to believe it is an airline in The Americas. The press announcement for Air Berlin joining Oneworld was in Germany. It may be that Tim Horton cannot travel given what's going on at AA at the moment, but I'd be suprised at a press announcement in New York for a Middle Eastern/Asian airline.

User currently offlineDrmlnr1 From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 86 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 15289 times:

I'm thinking it could be either TAM, US, or QR. But EY who has a frequent flier agreement with AA, has a stake in AB, partners with S7, future OW members Malaysian, SriLankan could be a dark horse.


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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7915 posts, RR: 52
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 15063 times:

Quoting LHRFlyer (Reply 1):
Well if you believe some of the threads on here it must be Oneworld announcing the closure of the alliance because there's just no point any more because of the EK and QF partnership!!

For real, I don't know why everyone was losing their minds over this

Quoting Atrude777 (Reply 6):
If we're to follow history of what United and Continental did, CO left Sky Team to join Star Alliance before the merger happened, it could be possible that US would be joining it if that was the example we used.

My question is, would US benefit from joining OW? What if the merger doesn't work out and US is in OW separate from AA? With CO it at least made sense for them to join Star (merger with UA aside.) Not saying US wouldn't fit in OW I'm just wondering



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User currently offlineb6a322 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 291 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 14510 times:

USAirways Aside, Jetblue anyone? They've got nice ties with AA, seem to prefer the expansion through partnerships theory as of late, and happen to have a rather large Hub / corporate headquarters here.


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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31014 posts, RR: 87
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 14300 times:
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Quoting b6a322 (Reply 13):
USAirways Aside, Jetblue anyone?

LH owns 19% of them and has strong code-sharing, so that makes me inclined to believe they would not join OW.


User currently offlineByrdluvs747 From United States of America, joined Jul 2004, 2361 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13968 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 14):
LH owns 19% of them and has strong code-sharing, so that makes me inclined to believe they would not join OW.

Since when does 19% control a company? LH protested the partnership with AA, and we know what happened then.



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User currently offlinerunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13885 times:

TAM makes the most sense.

AA and IAG (IB/BA) have a lot in stake with the Americas. LATAM is probably the only carrier that would really require both AA and IAG being present and NYC seems like the logical place to hold such an event.


User currently offlineGSTBA From UK - England, joined Apr 2010, 465 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13886 times:

Quoting LHRFlyer (Reply 4):
I suppose this could be a non-denial denial but QR is insisting it's not joining Oneworld:

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...20930

I think the announcement is going to be that they will more than one new not yet announced airline will join OW in late 2013 or early 2014. In light of this report I think the carriers that I think are most likely possible new members are:

Alaska Airlines
Ethiad
Flybe
Meridianafly
US Airways
Westjet

Hainan Airlines is another possibility that is if CX doesnt block them

[Edited 2012-09-30 14:13:01]

User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31014 posts, RR: 87
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13833 times:
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Quoting GSTBA (Reply 17):
Alaska Airlines

One of Alaska's strengths is the codesharing they do. Just as I can't see them agreeing to be purchased by another US flagged carrier, I cannot see them formally joining an alliance.


User currently offline9252fly From Canada, joined Sep 2005, 1392 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13807 times:

Quoting GSTBA (Reply 17):
Alaska Airlines
Ethiad
Meridianafly
US Airways
Westjet

Of those 5,I would be inclined to pick US as a precursor to whatever happens with AA later on.


User currently offlineLHRFlyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2010, 816 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13775 times:

Quoting b6a322 (Reply 13):
USAirways Aside, Jetblue anyone? They've got nice ties with AA, seem to prefer the expansion through partnerships theory as of late, and happen to have a rather large Hub / corporate headquarters here.

Jetblue would be very interesting, and I don't think LH's 19% stake precludes it,

US Airways would also be interesting, not least because Virgin has just started codesharing with them and Virgin could lose another US partner.


User currently offlineairevents From Germany, joined Jan 2002, 884 posts, RR: 2
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13680 times:

I find it hard to imagine QR joining OW would be announced anywhere else than Doha, Qatar...


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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31014 posts, RR: 87
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 6 hours ago) and read 13634 times:
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Quoting LHRFlyer (Reply 20):
Jetblue would be very interesting, and I don't think LH's 19% stake precludes it.

It wouldn't preclude it, but if B6 joins OneWorld, does that mean they can no longer codeshare with LH because LH is in Star?

For if they could not, then there seems to be no reason for LH to continue to hold the stock (since B6 does not appear to pay a dividend).


User currently offlinespeedbird9 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2008, 231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 13254 times:

possibly not LATAM according to this Reuters report from the 21st of September 2012 the group will decide on an airline alliance in the first half of 2013

http://uk.reuters.com/article/2012/0...tam-alliance-idUKL1E8KL5WB20120921



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User currently offlinehhslax2 From Bahrain, joined Jan 2012, 127 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 12898 times:

Quoting airevents (Reply 21):
I find it hard to imagine QR joining OW would be announced anywhere else than Doha, Qatar...

Not if they bring 2 shiny 787s to the party.


25 DeltaMD90 : Highly doubt it... they have a strong codeshare with DL in SEA
26 Byrdluvs747 : No, for the same reason QF can codeshare with AF. Alliance members are allowed side deals. However, B6 would most likely codeshare with AB as well.
27 legacyins : I find it hard to imagine QR would announce they are joining OW after they, QR, just announced they are not joining OW.
28 1337Delta764 : Yep, and that relationship with DL is stronger than the one AS has with AA.
29 Post contains images RyanairGuru : To flip that on its head I guess you could ask what US gets from Star. I know they say that their Star membership is "profitable" (however it is you
30 AirlineCritic : EK joining OW? (One can always hope for a radical piece of news, and then get something totally boring instead...)
31 Post contains images Bill142 : Yes because alliances mean airlines can't do deals with non-alliance partners to the detriment of their business. Tim Horton is the oneworld chariman
32 Post contains images roberto277 : Or maybe even more crazy.... a merger between AA and IAG to fend off US. That would be a big announcement for sure. Although I think some addition to
33 koruman : Well if it's TAM the choice of New York suggests that they are joining the wrong alliance. For the record, New York is FURTHER from Sao Paulo than Jo
34 LAXdude1023 : Since the announcement is going to be in the US, I would imagine it relates to an American carrier. My money would be on US or B6. I personally hope i
35 seansasLCY : I don't think the announcement being made in NY has much impact. Sri Lankan was announced in Beijing and I don't think S7 or Royal Jordanian were anno
36 koruman : Wouldn't it be premature for them to join OneWorld at a time when they are far from certain of taking over American Airlines? There is still plenty t
37 LAXdude1023 : I dont disagree with you, but that doesnt mean that they see it the same way. US has been talking to AA and IAG and has publicly stated they would jo
38 Post contains links bastew : Maybe the whole QR thing is just a red herring and the real candidate is Etihad... http://www.businesstraveller.com/mid.../news/etihad-targets-more-pa
39 jumpjets : Like most commentators on this thread I am hoping for a significant airline related announcement - but I fear given that the announcement has been tra
40 AJMIA : The rumors I have heard suggest it is Ethiad... It would be nice if US was also going to join, but I believe it will be an announcement of just one ai
41 EK413 : It's going to be Jetblue announcement... They are now available for interline bookings to OW carrier staff... EK413
42 Post contains images VV701 : I do not dispute that Brazil, like all of Australia and Antarctica, is mainly (but not totally) in the Southern Hemisphere. However as the Equator ru
43 RyanairGuru : In traditional North-South parlance which most people in Europe and Australasia would understand as "hemisphere" you are - of course - right, even if
44 Drmlnr1 : It's going to be Jetblue announcement... They are now available for interline bookings to OW carrier staff... [/quote] How can you prove that?
45 Post contains links rgreenftm : Interesting comments from the past, from when B6 and AA announced their code share: http://travel.usatoday.com/flights/p...blue-ceos-dont-rule-it-out/
46 rgreenftm : Let's also not forget the ties B6 has recently made with JAL, another OW partner.
47 Drmlnr1 : B6 would make sense.... But I really am thinking it could be US.
48 Post contains images RyanairGuru : I really hope you're right, but it seems to be "confirmed" on the other thread that it's QR Bring on the fireworks with EK
49 Post contains images iFlyLOTs : Crazy idea, US is going to OW where, also being announced, they will merge with AA and why is IAG there? Because they will be investing 25% into the n
50 Drmlnr1 : QR could bring alot to OW. I look forward to the announcement
51 BOStonsox : I hope it's B6, then BOS will be an alliance hub and it would entice those carriers to come here. From a Bostonian's stand point, this would be ideal.
52 qf002 : There are going to be a lot of disappointed people if this ends up being something as simple as details on MH or UL's membership plans. Or it's as sim
53 Post contains links and images Markam : This is a done deal, according to Reuters and others: http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...qatarairways-idUSBRE8910A220121002 I will give my Qatar s
54 roberto277 : I don't know if any of you guys are into shares at all, but IAG's shares are doing pretty well this week. Seems to me the market has high expectations
55 LHRFlyer : If, as expected, it includes a full joint venture on the London-Doha route and points beyond Doha (not just Australia) then it is potentially hugely
56 TWA85 : With QR membership in Oneworld all but announced, what are the odds that Oneworld will turn its attention HU? If QR joins Oneworld, it could demonstra
57 Post contains links srbmod : Please continue the discussion here: Qatar Airways To Join Oneworld: Official (by ojas Oct 8 2012 in Civil Aviation)
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