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User currently offlineliverpoola380 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2012, 207 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 26712 times:

I wanted to post in 46 but it seems to have been closed.

I flew out last week and the new control tower is coming along nicely.

Does anybody have any idea when it will be complete and what will happen to the old building?

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User currently offlineMattuk From UK - England, joined Sep 2010, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 26376 times:

Not sure if I trust Wikipedia too much, but it's suggesting that MAN is getting 2 further new routes for Summer 2013:

FR to NCE from the 11/03/13

and

AC to YYZ from the 01/05/2013

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manchester_Airport

Can anyone confirm if these are true?


User currently offlineCX Flyboy From Hong Kong, joined exactly 15 years ago today! , 6642 posts, RR: 55
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 26344 times:

CX has MAN in its plans again but not till 2015/2016 when they will send the A350. Subject to change obviously!

User currently offlinempsrent From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 26315 times:

Quoting Mattuk (Reply 1):

Air Canada is only weeks away from launching a new low cost carrier and it is widely rumoured but not confirmed that YYZ to MAN is one of the European destinations.

http://www.thestar.com/business/arti...to-launch-low-cost-carrier-in-2013

http://www.cbc.ca/news/business/stor...012/09/19/air-canada-low-cost.html

As I travel to MAN a couple of times per year, I welcome the addition of another option.


User currently offlineliverpoola380 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2012, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 26175 times:

It would be great to see AC at MAN

Would its low cost subsidary be operating long haul routes?


User currently offlineZKOJH From China, joined Sep 2004, 1725 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 26092 times:

Can't see CX making a move, they will reduce the staff number's at MAN which has got a lot of people confused, they don't have many to start with several quotes including , Cathays words 'MAN is chronically overstaffed and a staff base of that size is unsustainable in the long run'.

The only other early rumor is the news of JAL to Japan in conjunction with BA's new 'JSA' using 787 aircraft!

as we come into the winter timetable 2013 is looking rather shaky at the moment.



CZ 787 to AKL can't wait.
User currently offlinealanelrfc From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2008, 77 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 26069 times:

New control tower is due for final completion and operation around May 2013


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User currently offlineliverpoola380 From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2012, 207 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 25635 times:

Good to see menzies wearing BA uniforms in T3 now

Look so much more professional that servisair!


User currently offlinecx flyboy From Hong Kong, joined exactly 15 years ago today! , 6642 posts, RR: 55
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 25497 times:

Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 5):
Can't see CX making a move, they will reduce the staff number's at MAN which has got a lot of people confused, they don't have many to start with several quotes including , Cathays words 'MAN is chronically overstaffed and a staff base of that size is unsustainable in the long run'.

CX isn't a rumour. MAN was listed in a PowerPoint presentation I saw about forthcoming destinations planned this decade for the longhaul fleet.


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 25441 times:
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Quoting cx flyboy (Reply 8):
I saw about forthcoming destinations planned this decade for the longhaul fleet.

Just extremely annoying that they see fit to keep routing passengers over LHR pending the A350. from the Routeshop website:

"Indirect traffic from MAN in 2011 to HKG was 103,000 (MIDT 2011). Leakage from the MAN catchment to London airports was 163,000 (CAA 2011). " That CAA figure equates to nearly 450 passengers per day. Get the majority of cargo shifted on the 3 or 4 weekly 74F service onto the passenger service and then tell me why that they can't operate this route now.

No doubt when the time comes. they'll do the stupid thing by making it a one-stop route and not something that will enhance the route i.e operate it non-stop.


User currently offlineCX Flyboy From Hong Kong, joined exactly 15 years ago today! , 6642 posts, RR: 55
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 25270 times:

Quoting david_itl (Reply 9):
Quoting cx flyboy (Reply 8):
I saw about forthcoming destinations planned this decade for the longhaul fleet.

Just extremely annoying that they see fit to keep routing passengers over LHR pending the A350. from the Routeshop website:

"Indirect traffic from MAN in 2011 to HKG was 103,000 (MIDT 2011). Leakage from the MAN catchment to London airports was 163,000 (CAA 2011). " That CAA figure equates to nearly 450 passengers per day. Get the majority of cargo shifted on the 3 or 4 weekly 74F service onto the passenger service and then tell me why that they can't operate this route now.

No doubt when the time comes. they'll do the stupid thing by making it a one-stop route and not something that will enhance the route i.e operate it non-stop.

The intention is to make it non-stop and the A350 with it's low operating costs with enable that. Correctly or not, at the moment the company have decided that the yields and loads are such that it is not profitable. Remember, the figure you quoted is an annual travel figure no doubt with many passengers concentrated around Christmas, Easter, Summer holidays etc. CX might struggle to fill an aircraft at other times of the year.

In addition to all this is that we are chronically short of pilots and any expansion must take this into account. Also the company did not make a profit so far this year and we have cut back on services to North America not because they are not doing well but because they need to pull the 777-300ERs off the routes to be able to send them to Europe to replace the now-inefficient 747-400. 2013+2014 will be about replacing the remaining 747-400s to Europe and restoring those frequencies to North America when more 777-300ERs arrive. When the next longhaul destination is launched, it will be EWR because of the high yields New York provide - higher than MAN.

By end of 2013, all four CX LHR flights will be 777-300ERs. With the addition of a 5th LHR sector unlikely for the time being because of slots, it makes launching MAN the next logical step, especially when you have gone to 4x 777s a day to LHR from 3x 744s (Big loss of seatcount).

CX's policy towards new destinations has always been to only launch when they are confident of profit from almost day one. This does mean that many destinations which are probably viable, are missed out until demand grows to such levels that profitability is assured!! This is changing however and the CEO has said that we must take a "launch it and see" attitude to new destinations now. We will have to wait and see whether MAN is one of those wait and see places!


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 24461 times:
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Looks like BE will be operating for AY from 28th October as they're taking on 12 E190s and operating 14 routes. MAN not mentioned but did dummy booking and "AY2934"/"AY2933" came up with in italics "operated by Flybe"

User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3071 posts, RR: 23
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 24386 times:
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Looks like 2 cargo operators will have MAN schedules by April '13. One is new, the other has had a presence before.

Possibility of a couple more.

Look east for ideas.  

Rgds



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User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 24385 times:
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Hazarding Air China for one. EVA Air for the other.

User currently offlineLGWGate49 From Sudan, joined Nov 2009, 140 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 24081 times:

U2 expanding further by the looks of it, to VCE / AYT / JMK / JTR starting in Feb:

http://airlineroute.net/2012/10/16/u2-man-feb13/



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User currently offlineneveragain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 24044 times:

Quoting liverpoola380 (Thread starter):
I flew out last week and the new control tower is coming along nicely.

Does anybody have any idea when it will be complete and what will happen to the old building?

I have heard a couple different suggestions for the re-use of the control tower once the new one is opened. I understand that the condition of the office building on which the tower rests is in poor condition and would need a reasonable amount of investment if it were to be converted to alternative uses. The two primary uses I have heard discussed are:

1) Refurbish the old building and convert to office space for airport tenants (freeing up space in the terminal buildings) and other third parties, boosing airport property revenues.

2) Remove the building as a precursor project to support the eventual linking of Terminals 1 and 3 and construction of a consolidated departure hall. This would be driven primarily by the need to provide additional capacity in Terminal 3, which could be required if the airport begins to return to the traffic levels experienced during its peak in 2005-06. The particulars of how the terminals could be linked together is something under study at present.


User currently offlinemainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 23387 times:

http://www.routesonline.com/news/29/...rbus-a340-operation-to-manchester/

Quote:
Pakistani carrier airblue starting 27NOV12 will begin Airbus A340 operation on Islamabad – Manchester service, providing 4 weekly nonstop flights. The A340 is configured in all-Economy Class 328 seats.

Currently the carrier operates Airbus A319/320 aircraft with an intermediate stop in Istanbul Sabiha Gokcen, which will be cancelled when it converts service to nonstop. Schedule:

PA220 ISB1400 – 1900MAN 343 x146
PA221 MAN2100 – 1110+1ISB 343 x146

Has this been discussed before? Not sure. It seems to be a hefty increase in capacity; I wonder how this might affect PK?


User currently offlineboysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 958 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 23235 times:

Quoting mainMAN (Reply 16):
Has this been discussed before? Not sure. It seems to be a hefty increase in capacity; I wonder how this might affect PK?

Well there was another thread on here about a month ago reporting that PK were stopping a number of European destinations including MAN but that they would keep OSL for example. It seemed a pretty strange decision in my opinion (stopping MAN) but it was to do with an allinace between PK and TK. Anyway, the story seemed to die away pretty quickly but maybe Airblue sensed blood and is going for the kill!


User currently offlinemainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 22763 times:

Does anyone have any info as to why yesterday's Monarch flight from Dubrovnik ZB1355 is currently showing as nearly 25 hours late? I'm coming back from DBV next Thursday and serious can't afford such a massive delay! Have ZB been struggling with maintenance this summer?

Quoting boysteve (Reply 17):
Anyway, the story seemed to die away pretty quickly but maybe Airblue sensed blood and is going for the kill!

Hopefully there's room for both. I was recently talking to a bloke in a Pakistani travel agent/general store in Oldham who told me that PA offered a far better product.


User currently offlineMattuk From UK - England, joined Sep 2010, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 22250 times:

BA service to/from LGW is to be dropped from the 31/03/2013.

Not sure if either BE or EZY will take up the service from the start of the Summer season?


User currently offlineLuftyMatt From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 22009 times:

FR to add 5 new routes out of MAN and a further 2 out of LPL.
Routes out of MAN will be: CFU, KRK, ACE, PFO and Trapani. http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/north...pool-routes.html?news_section=4148
All being added in time for next summers schedule.

[Edited 2012-10-31 05:04:57]


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User currently offlinedanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1821 posts, RR: 8
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 5 days ago) and read 21946 times:

I expect a few more from none based aircraft too. Nice to see the route count growing


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User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 21496 times:
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There's a surprise addition to the list of MAN routes..... it's HKG! No links for bookings but why list it if there's no news forthcoming?

User currently offlineHullCitySpotter From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 49 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 21327 times:

Quoting david_itl (Reply 22):
There's a surprise addition to the list of MAN routes..... it's HKG! No links for bookings but why list it if there's no news forthcoming?

On other forums/sites there seems to be murmurs of a CX route. 6 weekly on an A343. Whether this is true or not I don't know, I'm just the messenger on what I've seen elsewhere  


User currently offlineMattuk From UK - England, joined Sep 2010, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 21182 times:

Air Blue has announced a 4 times weekly schedule between MAN and LHE starting on the 27th November.

http://www.airblue.com/index.asp

MAN / LHE 2200 / 1210+1 -23-5-7
LHE / MAN 1330 / 1900 -23-5-7

Flights will be operated on their A340 aircraft.


User currently offlinedanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1821 posts, RR: 8
Reply 25, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 21437 times:

Nice. Be manic some days then! Isn't that the same day the A340 starts on the ISB route too? Quite short notice it has to be said.


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User currently offlinemainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 26, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 21430 times:

Sorry folks, LHE is a connection at ISB. It's not a dedicated flight. Have a look at their schedules from 27th Nov.

User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 27, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 21978 times:
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TP is talking of launching FNC-MAN and, in quite a rare move for a MAN route, is saying most passengers on it's LIS service are point-to-point so are looking at bumping up frequency to gain more connecting passengers.

And surprising news is that MAN is FR's 2nd biggest UK airport for flights.


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 28, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 21930 times:
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The almost annual story of MAN's wish list has appeared today in the Evening News. Had an idle 30 minutes and trawled this from their archive:

General story in 2011, China story in 2011, Similar campaign in 2010, one from 2009. Nothing in 2008!, 2007, 2006 and lastly 2003


User currently offlineMattuk From UK - England, joined Sep 2010, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 29, posted (2 years 1 month 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 21870 times:

The MAN airport arrivals page is listing flight TOM9730P from Seattle (Boeing Field Int'l) scheduled to arrive 06:15 (Due 05:50).

Does anyone know if this is a Dreamliner delivery flight??


User currently offlineneothearmal From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2008, 19 posts, RR: 1
Reply 30, posted (2 years 1 month 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 21847 times:

The 787 is not due till next year. It would probably be a new 737-800

User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2612 posts, RR: 2
Reply 31, posted (2 years 1 month 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 21861 times:

Volga-Dnepr had an Antonov An-124 at MAN yesterday managed to catch a few pics of it when it departed:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8200/8201311990_07c37db766_b.jpg
P1000097 by 817Dreamliiner, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8209/8201290678_9c107d4290_b.jpg
P1000100 by 817Dreamliiner, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8350/8200136919_7c578eddb2_b.jpg
P1000140 by 817Dreamliiner, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8340/8201214964_cd31789d50_b.jpg
P1000142 by 817Dreamliiner, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8206/8200115807_41843b45f5_b.jpg
P1000143 by 817Dreamliiner, on Flickr

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8345/8201202016_527647ff9a_b.jpg
P1000144 by 817Dreamliiner, on Flickr

Also caught others and are on my flickr page: http://www.flickr.com/photos/817dreamliiner/

I think this was my best shot of the day:
http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8058/8201536224_766d38f2a3_b.jpg
P1000210 by 817Dreamliiner, on Flickr



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User currently offlineEagleBoy From Niue, joined Dec 2009, 1917 posts, RR: 2
Reply 32, posted (2 years 1 month 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 21833 times:
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Quoting Mattuk (Reply 29):
Does anyone know if this is a Dreamliner delivery flight??
Quoting neothearmal (Reply 30):
The 787 is not due till next year. It would probably be a new 737-800

And I would hazard a guess that the delivery flight number on that occasion might be TOM787P


User currently offlineMANmatt From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 969 posts, RR: 5
Reply 33, posted (2 years 1 month 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 21853 times:

Quoting Mattuk (Reply 29):
The MAN airport arrivals page is listing flight TOM9730P from Seattle (Boeing Field Int'l) scheduled to arrive 06:15 (Due 05:50).

Does anyone know if this is a Dreamliner delivery flight??

It's G-TAWK, their latest B737-800. 1st B787 is due in January next year with one each in Feb and March also.


User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2934 posts, RR: 2
Reply 34, posted (2 years 1 month 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 21844 times:

Quoting Mattuk (Reply 29):
Does anyone know if this is a Dreamliner delivery flight??
Quoting neothearmal (Reply 30):

The 787 is not due till next year. It would probably be a new 737-800

It's a Boeing 737-800 (G-TAWK) in the Dreamliner livery.

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User currently offlineMattuk From UK - England, joined Sep 2010, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 35, posted (2 years 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 21882 times:

EZY have announced another based aircraft for MAN this morning.

New routes to Moscow (4 weekly), Prague and Thessaloniki.

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...irect-to-moscow-and-prague?rss=yes


User currently offlinemainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 36, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 21831 times:

Quoting Mattuk (Reply 35):
New routes to Moscow (4 weekly)

MAN really is becoming a linchpin of U2's network, and v.v. Flights will be to DME, which is good because it's well served by rail to central Moscow.


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 37, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 21802 times:
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Pity no-one checked and saw Aeroflot flew to Moscow for 10 years or so from 1987. You'd have thought that whilst twiddling their thumbs waiting for the annual wish list rehash story they would help airlines not make basic errors like that.

User currently offlineblueshamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3071 posts, RR: 23
Reply 38, posted (2 years 1 month 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 21815 times:
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It was a pseudo-charter operation though, where you could only book via aeroflot themselves and get hand written tickets from them (have one myself).

Not sure if it was a true scheduled service for that reason.

Happy to be corrected.  

Still, nice to be the only airport outside of London to link Russia with the UK, and fantastic to see easyjet reaffirming MAN as their northwest airport of choice.

Rgds



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User currently offlinemainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 39, posted (2 years 4 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 21289 times:

Lufthansa going from strength to strength, including MAN - TXL

http://www.thebusinessdesk.com/north...ufthansa.html?news_section=273985#

Quote:
The airline’s new Manchester-Berlin route, which has been operational for less than six months, is also performing well, with 85-90% of traffic for leisure and the remainder being business travel for the point to point route, which is a popular conference and exhibition centre.


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 40, posted (2 years 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 20643 times:
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This comment put forward by the Northern Economic Futures Commission popped up in the Independent earlier this week in which MAN is proposed as the 2nd hub for the UK. Alas, with the mix and match of airlines it will be a tad difficult to organise; further refinement of the BE domestic hubbing may have to come first which can then allow prospective new long-haul routes to garner further feed - it would also need more commercial agreements to be sought by BE and those airlines . It would also necessitate some spending on boosting terminal facilitie and capacity. T1 is the most pressing to upgrade but I don't know if it's better to look at T2 and T3 first to maximse their potential as it may be easier to temporarily displace airlines there whilst T1 is upgraded.

User currently offlineLGWflyer From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2011, 2348 posts, RR: 1
Reply 41, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 20568 times:

Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 31):
Volga-Dnepr had an Antonov An-124 at MAN yesterday managed to catch a few pics of it when it departed:
Quoting 817Dreamliiner (Reply 31):
I think this was my best shot of the day:

Some great pics, thanks for sharing!  



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User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2612 posts, RR: 2
Reply 42, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 20500 times:

Quoting LGWflyer (Reply 41):

Some great pics, thanks for sharing!  

Thanks alot!



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User currently offlineBoysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 958 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (2 years 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 20281 times:

I see that EK017 (DXB - MAN) is diverted today to MUC 'due to operational reasons'. Flightradar24 shows that it left DXB via a normal route up over Baghdad heading NNW towards Eastern Turkey. It got to within 30kms of Turkish airspace when it then did an about turn and headed SW and over Central Syria, Cyprus, Greek Islands. It is now over Bosnia (10:15GMT, 11:15CET). Looking at the route on flight radar it seems to have been denied permission to enter Turkish airspace and had to skirt round the South of Turkey, has it Syrian diplomats on board perhaps?
Anyway, this substantial diversion has obviously meant a fuel shortage and hence the stop at MUC.


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 44, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 19665 times:
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Around 10 diversions away from MAN today - temperatures dipped quite suddenly around 6am, with the airporrt closed to inbound traffic from around 7.30 to 8.30 with departures having started about 8.15 whilst they deiced the runways and taxiways.

User currently offlinebigorange From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 2375 posts, RR: 3
Reply 45, posted (2 years 2 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 19514 times:

Quoting david_itl (Reply 44):

Around 10 diversions away from MAN today - temperatures dipped quite suddenly around 6am, with the airporrt closed to inbound traffic from around 7.30 to 8.30 with departures having started about 8.15 whilst they deiced the runways and taxiways.

Nice to see MAN as organized as ever.!


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 46, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 19242 times:
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At long last, the details of the U2 service to Moscow are available:

Sundays & Wednesdays:
EZY1871 MAN 0740 DME 1435
EZY1872 DME 1515 MAN 1625

Mondays & Thursdays:
EZY1873 MAN 1340 DME 2035
EZY1874 DME 2115 MAN 2225

One-way fares seems to be starting around the £40 to £50 level


User currently offlinemainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 47, posted (2 years 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 19171 times:

[quote=bigorange,reply=45]Nice to see MAN as organized as ever.![/quot

MAN is as organised as any other UK airport, in so far as it can only respond to local weather conditions when and as they occur. In a maritime climate like ours, freezing conditions can be very localised and often very hard to predict. Last week Heathrow had problems, this week Manchester did.


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 48, posted (2 years 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 18663 times:
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Rarish div from LHR expected - a SK A321. Fog at LHR but most getting in, though a few divs gone to Europe!

User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1821 posts, RR: 8
Reply 49, posted (2 years 1 week 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 18118 times:

DL have confirmed the ATL route to be upgraded to the A332 from the 30th March.


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User currently offlineLJ From Netherlands, joined Nov 1999, 4477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 50, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 17926 times:

Manchester will get a direct link with Den Helder (DHR) as one of FlyBe's Manchester - Norwich will be extended to Den Helder as of March 4th.

User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1087 posts, RR: 4
Reply 51, posted (2 years 1 week 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 17826 times:

LJ, I would say it's a one-stop link. A flight in to DHR is perfect if want to take the Dokter Wagemaker or the old school Schulpengat to let's say visit the Texel Airshow or just have something to eat at Tessels Kwartier, den Burg.

User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 52, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 17764 times:
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LH 747 on it's way to MAN - should be here around 7.45pm. Going to Air Livery as it' been stated that they've got the contract now with the LH Hamburg paint facility closed

User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3071 posts, RR: 23
Reply 53, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 17690 times:
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Quoting david_itl (Reply 52):
LH 747 on it's way to MAN - should be here around 7.45pm. Going to Air Livery as it' been stated that they've got the contract now with the LH Hamburg paint facility closed

D-ABVZ, should be on the ground around 1930 as it's just steaming past Brugge.

First of many.   

Rgds



So I drive a 4x4. So what?! Tax the a$$ off me for it...oh, you already have... :-(
User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1087 posts, RR: 4
Reply 54, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 17702 times:

I suppose it's D-ABVZ (DLH9922) that is now crossing over from Brugge david_itl

Edit: Victor Zulu is now parked at stand 86

[Edited 2012-12-16 11:47:46]

User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 55, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 17496 times:
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TP schedule for the summer has been revealed: 10 weekly all to LIS. Now can MAN still say this is an under-served route?

User currently offlineLN-KGL From Norway, joined Sep 1999, 1087 posts, RR: 4
Reply 56, posted (2 years 1 week 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 17446 times:

With 6 weekly A320, 3 weekly F100 and 1 weekly A321 LIS may well be off the list of underserved destinations.

User currently offlinelisbonbearuk From Portugal, joined Jan 2010, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 57, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 17178 times:

I'd be interested to know if TP are feeding passengers through Manchester onto other STAR carriers like SK, who don't serve LIS directly. Any ideas those in the know?

Also, on which day will the A321 be dropping in?


User currently offlineBlueShamu330s From UK - England, joined Sep 2001, 3071 posts, RR: 23
Reply 58, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 17148 times:
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Quoting lisbonbearuk (Reply 57):
Also, on which day will the A321 be dropping in?

Sundays.

Rgds



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User currently offlineDanfearn77 From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2008, 1821 posts, RR: 8
Reply 59, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 17158 times:

I believe Sunday is the day that the A321 will operate for TP. Could be wrong though.


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User currently offlinehohd From United States of America, joined May 2008, 457 posts, RR: 0
Reply 60, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 17133 times:

For all talk of about expansion at MAN, is there any future for routes to India, especially DEL. The gulf carriers have cornered the market, but no airline in either India or UK (or a SE Asia airline with stopover service) are willing to take the plunge.

User currently offlinecipango From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 754 posts, RR: 0
Reply 61, posted (2 years 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 16780 times:

Quoting hohd (Reply 60):
For all talk of about expansion at MAN, is there any future for routes to India, especially DEL. The gulf carriers have cornered the market, but no airline in either India or UK (or a SE Asia airline with stopover service) are willing to take the plunge.

Manchester has a very large Indian population, and even though the gulf carriers offer many indirect flights, I do think MAN can support a direct flight to DEL or BOM on 9W or AI.

AI 787's might even be a good candidate for the route.


User currently offlinempsrent From Canada, joined Apr 2006, 143 posts, RR: 0
Reply 62, posted (2 years 1 week 20 hours ago) and read 16572 times:

Unfortunately MAN didn't get selected for the launch of Air Canada's new low cost leisure carrier "Rouge".

http://www.aircanada.com/en/about/rouge.html

I'd love to see more YYZ-MAN options so hopefully if this "rouge" venture does well it will lead to expansion in MAN.


User currently offlineSK736 From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2006, 538 posts, RR: 0
Reply 63, posted (2 years 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 16070 times:
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Quoting Danfearn77 (Reply 49):
DL have confirmed the ATL route to be upgraded to the A332 from the 30th March.

Excellent news! My business will always go to an airline that offers 2-3-2 or 2-4-2 rather than the dreaded 3-3 arrangement on a 757!


User currently offlinegkirk From UK - Scotland, joined Jun 2000, 24964 posts, RR: 56
Reply 64, posted (2 years 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 15420 times:

EgyptAir starting 5 x weekly MAN-CAI with 738s apparently


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User currently offlinecipango From Ireland, joined Jul 2009, 754 posts, RR: 0
Reply 65, posted (2 years 3 hours ago) and read 14990 times:

Quoting gkirk (Reply 64):
EgyptAir starting 5 x weekly MAN-CAI with 738s apparently

Starting June 1st Apparently.

Not one I saw coming but Egyptair has a decent amount of Connecting Traffic from CAI so this may do quite well.

Anyone know what Terminal it will use? My guess would be T1.


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 66, posted (2 years 2 hours ago) and read 14940 times:
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Another of the Star Alliance carriers joining the party.

Europe:
Lufthansa, Turkish Airlines, Air Portugal, Swiss, SAS, Brussels Airlines, Adria

Asia:
Singapore Airlines

Africa:
Egyptair

North America:
United, USAirways.

If you were looking for "obvious" addtions to that list, it would probably be an additional Asian carrier (Air China). If we were looking for Air Canada then it should really have been revealed in the portfolio of routes their new subsidiary announced before Christmas.
Garnering another African carrier or going for a South American one is probably not doable for around the next 5 years or so at least , which means that all we can realistically expect is for tinkering of the Star Alliance schedule (bumping up frequency or capacity for the most part, and in SQ's case the de-linking of MAN-MUC-SIN as I'm bit intrigued by the suggestion that the MAN-SIN sector outperforms MUC-SIN despite the inconvenience of the one-stop strategy.)


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 67, posted (2 years 2 hours ago) and read 14861 times:
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Having a play around the November provisional passenger statistics - there are 115 scheduled international routes altogether. From that 4 routes were discontinued, 22 are new routes, 59 show increases over November 2011 and 29 show decreases from November 2011.

3 of the more pleasing increases:

Stuttgart - go from Lufthansa to Germanwing and the passenger numbers leapt from 1200 to 3200. I wonder what the impact LH transferring more routes to them will be.
Keflavik - Icelandair from 2200 to 3700 passengers. Did the easyJet announcement lead to more people look for trips there and found this route already exists?
Basle - from the Swiss having 2700 passengers to easyJet having 4600


User currently offlinecol From Malaysia, joined Nov 2003, 2129 posts, RR: 22
Reply 68, posted (2 years ago) and read 14760 times:

SQ looks like they are reducing 380 flights to LHR to two per day, knocking off the morning SIN departure. It is being replaced by a 77W, my favorite ...NOT.

SQ are upgrading the older 772ER, which I hope one ends up on the MAN route. Anyway off to gate to get on board the SIN-MAN flight, a lovely 77W via that pain of a stop in MUC.


User currently offlineBMED From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2004, 860 posts, RR: 6
Reply 69, posted (2 years ago) and read 14715 times:

Manchester always seems to appear very steady with their growth of routes and airlines. Just a shame that Bournemouth airport within the MAG group hasn't done well since the investment within the new terminal. Does anyone know how flybe has got on since they launched a while back MAN as been their "connecting airport" and opened up extra routes due to the schedule changes?


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User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 70, posted (1 year 12 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 14716 times:
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Joke article about EK/QF link-up:


BHX is labelled a London airport
GLA is labelled hub airport for the north of Britain
MAN dismissed with a line about BE's hub letting you shuttle to the UK's regions . Hang on.. that can't be right as GLA is the northern hub? No mention of the frequency (the only UK airport that doesn't get that mentioned) nor the A380 operation.


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 71, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14169 times:
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MAN-CAI now showing on the timetable section of the MAN website. One day the route may be officially revealed.... but knowing MAN, they won't market that route instead preferring to highlight the not-needed LHR link by VS.

User currently offlineby738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2431 posts, RR: 1
Reply 72, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14181 times:

Seems its appeared elsewhere earlier
http://worldairlinenews.com/2012/12/...to-manchester-and-toronto-in-june/


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 73, posted (1 year 12 months 17 hours ago) and read 13693 times:
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Prices start at £379 return - I did a dummy booking on Expedia

User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 74, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 13135 times:
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MS now bookable on thier website. Slowest route launch ever?

User currently offlinelisbonbearuk From Portugal, joined Jan 2010, 440 posts, RR: 0
Reply 75, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 12983 times:

Sounds like a Biman...I'll be surprised if it comes off.

User currently offlineThomasCook From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2004, 797 posts, RR: 8
Reply 76, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 12888 times:

Hi,

What is the story with US Airways today? I see they have had what is seemingly a ferry flight (US9010) which arrived just after midnight to pickup the US735 back to PHL. Was it was renumbered so as not to conflict with tomorrows flight or did it ferry? Anyway that was scheduled to depart back to PHL at 2145 but has been rescheduled to 0300 per flightstats and 0800 on MAN FIDS.

Any info?

Thanks
ThomasCook



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User currently offlineMattuk From UK - England, joined Sep 2010, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 77, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 13097 times:

EY reporting strong performance at MAN

http://menmedia.co.uk/manchestereven...tihad-airways-top-ten-destinations


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 78, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 12410 times:
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2 weeks after the schedule was revealed, we finally have the MS press release.

User currently offlinespiplane From UK - England, joined Jan 2005, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 79, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 11825 times:
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Noticed that last Sunday (13th of January) there were 3 Eastern Airways flights from Aberdeen scheduled within the hour. Any specific reason for this?

Cheers, Paul



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User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3038 posts, RR: 8
Reply 80, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 11770 times:

Quoting spiplane (Reply 79):
Noticed that last Sunday (13th of January) there were 3 Eastern Airways flights from Aberdeen scheduled within the hour. Any specific reason for this?

Cheers, Paul

Football match related (Small contest between the regional red shirted mino's i am lead to believe !) in addition there were visits by an Aer Lingus A321, CityJet Avro, Jettime 737 several Bizjets including two carrying Moroccan tail numbers. Oh and a FLYBE [that normally operates between Bergen and Aberdeen] had an excursion arranged from and to Stavanger as well.


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 81, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 11238 times:
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December's provisional passenger stats are out:

The two main connecting hubs:

MAN-LHR = 60179 pax (down 9.7%). I have ignored the small number of charter passengers
MAN-DXB = 63331 pax (up 14.8%)

Transatlantically, it's not too bad at all given the state of both the US and UK economies and the high APD in force:

PHL 12851 -05.14%
ATL 09592 +03.30%
JFK 09564 +11.11%
EWR 09286 -05.51%
ORD 08556 +34.89%
IAD 05529 n/a

the 3 leisue-orientated routes
MCO 24078 -03.66%
LAS 03810 +01.44%
SFB 02432 +93.48%

Elsewhere....
marginal increases for SQ and EY with QR dipping sharply due to less flights.

Air Blue's use the of A340 has seen a big rise in numbers to Islamabad (up 23%) and Turkish delight in 40% increase to Istanbul. TP also saw an enormous increase (over 60% to 5000 )

Encouraging to see the BE operated services for Finnair doing well - nice 11% increase. All routes to Germany that still run showed an increase bar Hannover... and to be honest, how significant is a loss of 8 passengers on that route in the whole month!

Stragglers.... the Antwerp route came with just 805 passengers; hopefully all filling the pointy end of the ERJ135! Spain tanked rather like thier economy. Zurich still suffering from the lack of easyJet ops (down 21%)

And here's a nice comparison for Tripoli:
GATWICK 1879 pax
HEATHROW 1797 pax
MANCHESTER 1743 pax


User currently offlinemainMAN From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2005, 2115 posts, RR: 5
Reply 82, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 14 hours ago) and read 11200 times:

Quoting david_itl (Reply 81):

PHL 12851 -05.14%
ATL 09592 +03.30%
JFK 09564 +11.11%
EWR 09286 -05.51%
ORD 08556 +34.89%
IAD 05529 n/a

In January, UA to IAD operates 4 days a week ( I don't know about December), so 5529 is encouraging.

I've been periodically looking at fares to New York, and KL and AF are consistently cheaper - at least they were when I looked throughout most of 2012. This probably reflects ADP, and the challenges of making transatlantic 757s pay. Direct flights often came out at 150 quid more expensive......so, these figures look pretty good!

At the moment, DL operate 5 days a week (I didn't know that, but I just checked). I'm assuming they've been using a 763 to ATL?

US, the stalwart of MAN - North America. Daily throughout the winter, and an average of 207 punters per rotation.


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 83, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 10925 times:
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Snow ahead - 5 inches forecast for Greater Manchester on Friday. Expect delays and the airport to be closed for a large stretch of time

User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3038 posts, RR: 8
Reply 84, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 10392 times:

Aegean are expected to join the merry band of *A scheduled carriers this summer (Previous operations were summer charters and these continue)

Scheduled

Aegean are showing Athens-Manchester- Athens
Flight No A3638/A3639 operated by A320

Mon and Sat Arrive Man 2020 Dep 21.05

Commences 25/5 through to 26/9 in current timetable

Yet another addition to the *A focus!


User currently offlineMattuk From UK - England, joined Sep 2010, 104 posts, RR: 0
Reply 85, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 9835 times:

A lot of weather diversions in tonight. So far there has been:

LH3420 Berlin
BA555 Rome
LX424 Zurich
BA899 Tripoli
BA198 Mumbai
BE434 Hannover
SK2535 Copenhagen
BE3XY Lleida
EK37 Dubai


User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 86, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 9773 times:
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Strike out EK37 and BA198 - they made it to BHX and LHR respectively. EK held for around an hour!

User currently offlinedavid_itl From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2001, 7447 posts, RR: 13
Reply 87, posted (1 year 11 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 9723 times:
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MAG has bought STN for £1.5 billion with the shareholdings now 35.5% Industry Funds Management of Australia, 35.5% Manchester City Council and the remaining 29% split equally by the other 9 Greater Manchester Councils. Using the standard cost per proft ratio, it's a better deal than it would seem on the face of it.

Manchester Evening News Q+A


User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 3005 posts, RR: 0
Reply 88, posted (1 year 11 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 9044 times:

PK are to transfer the PK711 (KHI-LHE-MAN-JFK), PK721 (KHI-LHE-MAN-JFK) and PK723 (LHE-MAN-JFK) flights to SNN as rumoured:

http://www.piac.aero/cms/tenders/1783_Tender%20for%20SNN.pdf
(not an official press release but as good as!)



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User currently offlineFaddyPainter From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 89, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8595 times:

Is there a problem at MAN atm? A number of a/c holding and Air Malta 319 and Air France 320 appear to be heading south possible BHX. EK and LX still holding.

User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3038 posts, RR: 8
Reply 90, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 8570 times:

Snow flakes falling !

User currently offlineicelander From Iceland, joined Dec 2011, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 91, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8270 times:

This is probably not the right place to ask, but I am hoping (considering the thread topic) that someone here might have the info I am looking for.

I am missing two regs from my flight history, both connected to MAN. Does anyone know where I might possibly find the info?

12.7.2001 23:00 KEF-MAN, FI 440 (landed 13.7, around 2:30 am)
22.7.2001 14:45 MAN-KEF, FI 441

Thanks,
Mark.


User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3038 posts, RR: 8
Reply 92, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 8253 times:

Quoting icelander (Reply 91):
12.7.2001 23:00 KEF-MAN, FI 440 (landed 13.7, around 2:30 am)
22.7.2001 14:45 MAN-KEF, FI 441

Thanks,
Mark.

Contact the author of this site they will almost certainly have the answer

http://www.ringwaypublications.com/movements/


User currently offlineicelander From Iceland, joined Dec 2011, 54 posts, RR: 0
Reply 93, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8127 times:

Quoting rutankrd (Reply 92):
Contact the author of this site they will almost certainly have the answer

http://www.ringwaypublications.com/m...ents/

Thankyou rutankrd!!!! and also a big THANKYOU to the great guy(s) at Ringway Publications.

Regards,
Mark.


User currently offlineLuftyMatt From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2009, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 94, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 7817 times:

I heard from a friend who works at the airport, that CX cargo will be using a 748 on at least once a week from April. Possibly a Wednesday, but I'm not too sure on the day.


chase the sun
User currently offlineAnt72LBA From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 414 posts, RR: 1
Reply 95, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days ago) and read 7374 times:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-21221828

HS2 coming to MAN. Route a little different to what some websites had been speculating.


User currently offlineBoeing74741R From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2007, 1185 posts, RR: 0
Reply 96, posted (1 year 11 months 2 days ago) and read 7331 times:

Quoting Ant72LBA (Reply 95):

More specifically, the HS2 station will be located between Junctions 5 and 6 of the M56 on the other side of the motorway with the access road being near where the Travelodge and Premier Inn is now...

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/69079/hs2-msg-ma0-zz-dr-rt-52805.pdf

My next question is how will the station be connected with the existing rail station and terminal buildings? It's too far from even Terminal 2 to put in a walkway as per the existing station and I can't see buses being a reliable means of connectivity, so I wonder whether a monorail or a Maglev/cable car as per the one at BHX linking the terminal building with Birmingham International station and the NEC will be built instead? It would be a good opportunity to link Teminal 3 up with the rest of the airport again after the redevelopment of T1 has forced passengers to walk outside to get to/from T3.

I also see that the Marriott is right in the middle of the route serving MAN, so that will be demolished once construction starts.

[Edited 2013-01-28 05:20:46]

[Edited 2013-01-28 05:21:25]

User currently offlineBoysteve From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2004, 958 posts, RR: 0
Reply 97, posted (1 year 11 months 14 hours ago) and read 6641 times:

Yeah the location is a bit weird, but I guess with Airport City being built and allowing for car parking areas there not be much space closer to the terminals, unless of course they built it underground. Actually it's a bit crap, I have been to both Lyon and Frankfurt high speed railway stations and they are less than 5 minutes walk from the main terminal area and allow rail passengers to change between high speed and local services at the same location (Rhone tram in the case of LYS).
Looking at Google Earth and allowing for Airport City plans I think the only location that would make better sense for the station would be on the North Side of the existing station in a cut and cover box running east/west from terminal 2 to Outwood Lane in front of the Hilton hotel, but it probably adds to the station costs as well as adds another 2 miles of bored tunnel to the project. Woo I should be a civil engineer


User currently offlinespiplane From UK - England, joined Jan 2005, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 98, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 6163 times:
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This morning I saw the F50 of the new Belgian airline Vizion Air arrive an Manchester. Presumably a charter flight, any details known?

Paul




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User currently offlinerutankrd From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 3038 posts, RR: 8
Reply 99, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 6148 times:

Quoting spiplane (Reply 98):
This morning I saw the F50 of the new Belgian airline Vizion Air arrive an Manchester. Presumably a charter flight, any details known?
Quoting spiplane (Reply 98):
This morning I saw the F50 of the new Belgian airline Vizion Air arrive an Manchester. Presumably a charter flight, any details known?

Its operating for Aurigny on the Guernsey flights


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