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Largest Metro Areas Without EK  
User currently offlinenomorerjs From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 460 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 18114 times:

What are the largest metro areas without EK service?

MEX and ORD come to mind as alpha cities, but I'm sure there are more.

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User currently offlineNWADTWE16 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 18111 times:

Its been stated before but DTW

Stats per the Arab American Institute:

-About 94% of Arab Americans live in metropolitan areas. Los Angeles, Detroit, New York/NJ, Chicago and Washington, D.C., are the top five metropolitan areas of Arab American concentration

-There are almost as many Iraqis living in Michigan as there are living in California, even though California is 3.5% larger than Michigan

Top Ten States by Arab American Population
1. California - 272,485

2. Michigan - 191,607

3. New York - 149,627

4. Florida - 100,627

5. Texas - 91,568

6. New Jersey - 85,956

7. Illinois - 85,465

8. Ohio - 65,813

9. Massachusetts - 65,150

10. Pennsylvania - 60,870


User currently offlinereality From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 18054 times:

Well.........here's a list of the 50 largest metro area, according to Wikipedia. There must be quite a few that EK doesn't fly to.

Tokyo–Yokohama (Keihin)[2]

Jakarta (Jabodetabek)[3]

Seoul–Incheon (Sudogwon)[4]

Delhi[5]

Manila (Metro Manila)[6]

Shanghai[7]

New York[8]

São Paulo[9]

Mexico City (Valley of Mexico)[10]

Cairo[11]

Beijing[12]

Osaka–Kobe–Kyoto (Keihanshin)[13]

Mumbai (Bombay)[14]

Guangzhou (Canton)–Foshan (Guangfo)[15]

Moscow[16]

Dhaka[17]

Los Angeles[18]

Kolkata (Calcutta)

Karachi[19]

Buenos Aires[20]

Istanbul (Constantinople)

Rio de Janeiro

Shenzhen[15]

Lagos[21]

Paris

Nagoya (Chūkyō)[22]

Lima

Chicago[23]

Kinshasa[24]

Tianjin[25]

Chennai (Madras)

Bogotá

Bengaluru (Bangalore)

London[26]

Taipei[27]

Ho Chi Minh City (Saigon)

Dongguan[15]

Hyderabad

Chengdu

Lahore

Johannesburg–East Rand[28]

Tehran[29]

Essen (Ruhr)–Düsseldorf[30]

Bangkok

Hong Kong[15]

Wuhan

Ahmedabad

Chongqing[31]

Baghdad

Hangzhou[7]


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2960 posts, RR: 2
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 18016 times:

Quoting NWADTWE16 (Reply 1):

I think they means in terms of general population...

Using Wikipedia's list of the worlds largest cities it would indeed be MEX.


User currently offlineg500 From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 950 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 17964 times:
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Quoting nomorerjs (Thread starter):
MEX and ORD come to mind as alpha cities, but I'm sure there are more

Yes Mexico City would be the largest metro area without EK... if it wasn't for MEX's altitude, if Emirates could do MEX-DXB non-stop, I'd like to think they'd be flying there right now


User currently offlineHB-IWC From Indonesia, joined Sep 2000, 4502 posts, RR: 72
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 17963 times:

Quoting reality (Reply 2):
There must be quite a few that EK doesn't fly to.

That list is actually pretty well covered. EK does not fly to

Mexico City (Valley of Mexico)
Shenzhen
Nagoya (Chūkyō)
Lima
Kinshasa
Tianjin
Bogotá
Taipei
Dongguan
Chengdu
Wuhan
Chongqing
Hangzhou

Kinshasa and Taipei are currently pretty high on EK's priority list for new service. I would also at some point expect further services into Central and South America with MEX, BOG and LIM all possibilities, potentially via Europe. I am sure that EK is also looking at additional China service, as it now serves only PEK PVG and CAN on the mainland. Nagoya was previously served but was abandoned.


User currently offlinereality From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 477 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 17926 times:

Quoting qf002 (Reply 3):
I think they means in terms of general population...

Using Wikipedia's list of the worlds largest cities it would indeed be MEX.

Actually the op said largest metro areas (which makes sense), which is why I used this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_urban_areas_by_population

This includes more than just the largest 20.


User currently offlineyegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17849 times:

Quoting NWADTWE16 (Reply 1):
Its been stated before but DTW

Stats per the Arab American Institute:

-About 94% of Arab Americans live in metropolitan areas. Los Angeles, Detroit, New York/NJ, Chicago and Washington, D.C., are the top five metropolitan areas of Arab American concentration

-There are almost as many Iraqis living in Michigan as there are living in California, even though California is 3.5% larger than Michigan

Top Ten States by Arab American Population
1. California - 272,485

2. Michigan - 191,607

3. New York - 149,627

4. Florida - 100,627

5. Texas - 91,568

6. New Jersey - 85,956

7. Illinois - 85,465

8. Ohio - 65,813

9. Massachusetts - 65,150

10. Pennsylvania - 60,870

That is not relevant at all. Most Arabs will not fly EK, because of significant backtracking. Besides most Arabs are likely from Egypt, Lebanon, Jordan, etc....Why would they fly to DXB to connect.

EK depends heavily on Indian subcontinent traffic not the Middle East and North Africa for pax coming from the US.


User currently offlineaerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 7184 posts, RR: 13
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17667 times:

There are plenty..

Latin America

BOG 9.6mill est.
LIM 9.3
SCL 5.9m
CNF 5.4 Mil
CCS 4.1mil


also Guadalajara, Monterrey, Porto Alegre,Recife, Salvador, Medellin and plenty of others in Latin America all have between 3mill & 4.4mill. which puts them at a size that rivals SEA/MSP at the bottom end, and SFO/DTW/PHX at the upper end...

Asia
Shenzhen 9.4
Nagoya 8.3

Wuhan, Yianjin, Chonqing,Shenyang all above 6.4 million Metro

Africa
FIH springs to mind. There are many others.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30852 posts, RR: 86
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17643 times:
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Quoting g500 (Reply 4):
Yes Mexico City would be the largest metro area without EK... if it wasn't for MEX's altitude, if Emirates could do MEX-DXB non-stop, I'd like to think they'd be flying there right now

I should think their 777-200LRs could do it with a fair payload.

[Edited 2012-10-02 18:07:18]

User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 17595 times:

Quoting NWADTWE16 (Reply 1):

Top Ten States by Arab American Population
1. California - 272,485
Quoting NWADTWE16 (Reply 1):
3. New York - 149,627
Quoting NWADTWE16 (Reply 1):
6. New Jersey - 85,956

I'm surprised that California doesn't have more EK Arab service, being that it was such a large population. Even New York (and kind of New Jersey) has:

2x daily a388s from EK
1x daily a340-5/600 from EY
5x weekly a340-200 from RJ
1x daily 772/a343 from KU
1x daily 763 from AT
1x daily 77W from MS
3(?)x weekly from PK
5x weekly SV
1x daily 77W from QR
2x daily 77W and 1x daily a333 from TK

California gets a lot less (albeit some) of that.


User currently offlineAtlwest1 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 1046 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 17465 times:

Id also add ATL. 5.1 million people connected to the SE usa.


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User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6085 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 17420 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 9):
I should think their 777-200LRs could do it with a fair payload.

probably not.

They would be better off sending a 380....DXB-BCN-MEX (assumign traffic rights) or perhaps use a triangle like DXB-MEX-CUN-DXB



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User currently offlineyegbey01 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1724 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 17359 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 10):
I'm surprised that California doesn't have more EK Arab service, being that it was such a large population. Even New York (and kind of New Jersey) has:

2x daily a388s from EK
1x daily a340-5/600 from EY
5x weekly a340-200 from RJ
1x daily 772/a343 from KU
1x daily 763 from AT
1x daily 77W from MS
3(?)x weekly from PK
5x weekly SV
1x daily 77W from QR
2x daily 77W and 1x daily a333 from TK

California gets a lot less (albeit some) of that.

TK serves a large Turkish community in the US and a growing tourism business from North America. Their service does not depend on the Arab community.

AT does not compete with EK. Two different regions in the world.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30852 posts, RR: 86
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 17326 times:
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Quoting Stitch (Reply 9):
I should think their 777-200LRs could do it with a fair payload.
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 12):
probably not.

They certainly have the legs. DXB-MEX is about 700nm farther than DXB-IAH and EK's 777-200LRs can lift a full payload between DXB and IAH. Now yes, MEX is 2200m higher than IAH, but still, I can't see that crippling the payload on the outbound.


User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8281 posts, RR: 10
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 17255 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 14):

They certainly have the legs. DXB-MEX is about 700nm farther than DXB-IAH and EK's 777-200LRs can lift a full payload between DXB and IAH. Now yes, MEX is 2200m higher than IAH, but still, I can't see that crippling the payload on the outbound.

I'd be very surprised. MEX-DXB is longer than JNB-ATL and as I understand it that is right at the limit of the 77L, and MEX is 600m higher. Ok it is eastbound but still.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7387 posts, RR: 17
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 17243 times:

Quoting NWADTWE16 (Reply 1):
8. Ohio - 65,813

Yeah EK will never fly to any city in Ohio. Royal Jordinian does a good service to DTW IIRC

Quoting reality (Reply 2):
Tokyo–Yokohama (Keihin)[2]

Not many arabians in this area though. EK serves them pretty well though as far as I know.

(edited for wrong airport)

[Edited 2012-10-02 20:01:22]


次は、渋谷、渋谷。出口は、右側です。電車とホームの間は広く開いておりますので、足元に注意下さい。
User currently offlinethomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3938 posts, RR: 22
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 17197 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 10):
3(?)x weekly from PK
Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 10):
2x daily 77W and 1x daily a333 from TK

When did Pakistan and Turkey become Arab nations

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 16):
Royal Jordinian does a good service to DFW IIRC

I think you are confusing RJ with EK, AFAIK, RJ does not service DFW.



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User currently offlinejustinlee From China, joined Aug 2012, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 17195 times:

EK really should consider some destinations in West China since EY has CTU and QR has CKG!

User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7387 posts, RR: 17
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 17173 times:

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 17):
I think you are confusing RJ with EK, AFAIK, RJ does not service DFW.

EK doesn't serve DTW. RJ Serves through the North Terminal. Why, I don't know, maybe because of the Arabian population in Detroit. I think QR or ET on the 787/A350 could make this route work fine.

Check it: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit_Metropolitan_Wayne_County_Airport



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30852 posts, RR: 86
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 17157 times:
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Quoting airbazar (Reply 15):
I'd be very surprised. MEX-DXB is longer than JNB-ATL and as I understand it that is right at the limit of the 77L, and MEX is 600m higher. Ok it is eastbound but still.

A 777-200LR can do ATL-JNB (eastbound) at or near MZFW, which would allow for the Maximum Structural Payload (65t).

EK's 777-200LRs can lift 45t of payload and 134t of fuel at MTOW, which is about what EK's birds tank for DXB-LAX (which is ~500nm shorter than MEX). So even if they need to tank another 5t for MEX (to account for winds, alternates, etc.), that's still a 40t payload.


User currently offlinethomasphoto60 From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 3938 posts, RR: 22
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 17137 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 19):

EK doesn't serve DTW. RJ Serves through the North Terminal. Why, I don't know, maybe because of the Arabian population in Detroit. I think QR or ET on the 787/A350 could make this route work fine.

Well you made a typo as DFW not DTW was mentioned in your original post.

[Edited 2012-10-02 19:31:51]

[Edited 2012-10-02 19:32:28]


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User currently offlinetimpdx From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 544 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 17083 times:

California has a very large and pretty well to do Indian population and yet no airline has ever served India direct out of LAX or SFO either(Jet Airways was via PVG). And it really is the distance that keeps more Gulf/ME carriers from offering direct service to California to Cairo, Amman, Doha or Abu Dhabi. Without the premium pax, I am sure Emirates would not be serving California either. And with EK sucking up all the premium pax, there really is no reason for another airline to serve the India or Gulf traffic directly.

User currently offlineincitatus From Brazil, joined Feb 2005, 4006 posts, RR: 13
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 17070 times:

When it comes to size of the economy, Chicago, Nagoya, Atlanta, Philadelphia and Boston are top-20 gross metropolitan product in the world and EK is not there.

User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 16988 times:

Quoting thomasphoto60 (Reply 17):
When did Pakistan and Turkey become Arab nations

I threw them in as they probably have good connections and help serve the area via their own respective hubs.


25 AMX748 : During so many years the fact of a Mexican airline flying to Japan or China was regarded as a dream never to be achieved. Now there is AMX flying to N
26 PHX787 : Ah my apologies, corrected. The F and T keys are too close to each other.
27 thomasphoto60 : Apologies not needed, I make typos all the time.
28 96adrian : What about OSL, ARN and HEL?
29 Thijs1984 : The Rotterdam - The Hague Metro area ( around 5 million, and one of the most densely populated parts of Europe) in the Netherlands is also not directl
30 CityAirline : Are you joking? The topic was regarding the largest Metro areas of the world not served by EK. Little villages like Oslo, Stockholm and Helsinki hard
31 cipango : EK Served Nagoya until a few years ago. Not too sure of the reasons why they stopped flying? I think Taiwan is high on the list and EK will probably b
32 airbazar : I don't disagree but the issue is not DXB-MEX (or ATL-JNB). The issue is MEX-DXB (and JNB-ATL), due to the altitude at the departing airport.
33 incitatus : I regard the whole of the Netherlands as a single metro area when it comes to air travel. The distance between Rotterdam Airport and Schiphol is abou
34 yellowtail : If MEX Was at sea level...the 77L could do it.....but the heat and the altitude, even late at night will surely require a weight penalty..
35 jfk777 : Miami Florida needs Emirates. Miami also would allow EK access to all north Latin America and the caribean. No other city in the US except perhaps for
36 lightsaber : EK will expand. While not mentioned here, I expect more expansion to SE Asia in 2013. e.g., Indonesia's larger secondary cities. Perhaps Bali too. How
37 vinniewinnie : Then you might as well serve BRU. Granted you lose a bit of high yield port traffic but you gain a whole country. Not true! You'd be surprised how ha
38 Post contains images Thijs1984 : Metro area's of that size are usually served by at least two or more airports . That would also justify a service of Emirates. AMS-RTM is alsmost the
39 Viscount724 : Doubt it. MEX-DXB is about 500 nm further than SFO-DXB and about 500 miles shorter than EWR-SIN, the world's longest nonstop route. And those points
40 georgiaame : Tel Aviv? Preview function says the message is too short to post, so it can't be of much value to the conversation. So let me add: "or is this too pol
41 AirGabon : In Africa, Kinshasa for sure. TK started to serve FIH. I am sure EK will follow soon. Not one of the biggest city but I am also surprised that no Gulf
42 Viscount724 : If memory correct they only served Nagoya because the Japanese government wouldn't give them rights to Tokyo then.
43 SCQ83 : I don't think habits are so different in many parts of America (particularly in some of Emirates' largest markets). Countries such as Belgium or Luxe
44 SCQ83 : In LATAM, add SCL to the list. Once the route matures, they could drop the EZE tag from the GIG flight (just a dedicated DXB-GIG) and, instead, route
45 Post contains images NWADTWE16 : Yeah i realized i was typical American Centric with my interpretation
46 justinlee : It's a little bit strange that even TNR-BKK-CAN can fill 2 A343 per week but no connection DXB-TNR!
47 Post contains images ETinCaribe : I have my doubts. As you mentioned DL does JNB-ATL nonstop but I don't know if it has incurs any penalties. MEX-DXB is 8914 mi according to the GCM,
48 lightsaber : I see this as a 'tag route' with a European stop. There is no other way to make the economics work, IMHO. The issue is Saudi does not allow overfligh
49 2travel2know2 : TLV: If there weren't those issues between Dubai and Israel, most likely EK (with its own metal or on an EK-owned airliner) would be flying to TLV in
50 vinniewinnie : The US being such a large country, it is true (and my mistake) that it depends on which region you talk about. No-one in his right mind would drive f
51 boysteve : Hmmm, I cannot see EK flying to Israel anytime soon, but whatabout Fly Dubai to Israeli or Palestian territories? With regards to the largest metro a
52 AM744 : Exactly. In fact I'd go with a GDP per capita measure.
53 Post contains images lightsaber : Yea, but Luxemburg needs more people. I would go with either GDP or quantity of individuals with incomes greater than $75k USD. Lightsaber
54 Post contains images airbazar : That's a very interesting comment. I've always been curious how LH, AF, BA, IB fill their multiple daily flighs to MEX. Is it predominantly European
55 justinlee : There is huge chinese investment and companies in Latin America. Actually one of my best friends back in China is working in Ecuador. Not to mention
56 ghost77 : If EK was to serve Mexico their only options are MEX and CUN. MEX for its GDP and pop and CUN many people connecting thru DXB to get to paradise CUN.
57 Post contains links SCL767 : A DXB-EZE-SCL route is very possible. EK's president recently stated that the carrier plans to increase frequencies into Latin America: Emirates cont
58 LAXdude1023 : Below are the list of the largest economies in the US. The cities that have Emirates service have a plus sign by them. That should settle the question
59 Post contains images kngkyle : 30 Largest metropolitan areas by GDP, green arrows mark the ones without Emirates service. Kind of surprised to see Chicago has a larger GDP than Lond
60 damian : In Europe, if you go purely by the busiest airports by passenger numbers (by 2011 annual rankings), then Emirates Top 25 list of unserved European air
61 Post contains links N770WD : In my talk at Routes 2012 last week, I covered this topic - although I used a weighted combination of population and GDP per capita, and a broader (ti
62 sfoa380 : When talking about SFO in conversations that involve a region like the Bay Area, you have to include the San Jose MSA as well. These figures leave ou
63 SCQ83 : We can remove cities with airports already served by EK: 2. Palma de Mallorca (PMI) 4. Oslo-Gardermoen (OSL) 5. Stockholm-Arlanda (ARN) 6. Brussels (
64 Malayil : I feel that Emirates needs to work on changing their bilaterals with India and China. Already EK is maxed out on Indian and Chinese routes. If EK can
65 OOer : What about EK doing a MEX-DTW-DXB? The route of flight from MEX to DXB goes almost directly over DTW anyways. You add the 2 cities together and you ca
66 Post contains links Aaron747 : This chart does not include Nagoya in the ranking where it belongs - just above Osaka/Kobe in overall GDP. The Nagoya metropolitan region (known here
67 2travel2know2 : Passengers from countries which need U.S. visas to get into the U.S. flying to/from MEX via DTW will require U.S. visas to be on-board those flights.
68 incitatus : Exactly - whenever I gather metropolitan area economic data, I don't even think about it anymore - got to fix the San Francisco part because it is on
69 Malayil : Nagoya was previously served by Emirates. I doubt they would go back there after dropping it.
70 lightsaber : Why not? It was dropped at the start of this recession. When the Japanese economy picks up again, I could see it restarted. Lightsaber
71 Malayil : I admit I'm not an expert on traffic from Nagoya, but considering Japan has been in an economic malaise for the past 20 years I don't see where the pr
72 neveragain : Certainly a consideration, but couldn't we expect that most Mexicans flying to the Middle East would have US visas? (Not that MEX-DTW-DXB makes much
73 boysteve : Why is this? Do pax flying on NZ LHR-LAX-AKL require USA visas if to go between London & New Zealand without getting off the plane? How do people
74 Malayil : All foreigners who fly into the US must present themselves at US CBP. Even for NZ's AKL-LAX-LHR where the final destination is LHR, passengers must pa
75 migair54 : I remember before it was possible to transit via USA without visa, IB used to have some planes based in Miami to fly to central America, I think neve
76 allegiantflyer : PHX comes to my mind...But that would only be in my dreams to get EK service. But maybe they could use PHX as a pit stop for fuel or something since g
77 Malayil : That all stopped after 9/11. As for Chicago, that is a major hole in their route network. But Chicago traffic will be mostly heading to India, and wi
78 Rara : Shenzhen and Dongguan are arguably covered by HKG, and Tianjin is covered by PEK. Also, Hangzhou is just a 50m train ride from Shanghai. I would imag
79 sankaps : In terms of cities in the US, I think we'd find a high correlation as well to those that have high South Asian populations (much more relevant, due t
80 boysteve : Really? That's just nuts! Just think of all the worldwide hubs where millions of pax change every year without having to clear immigration, but you c
81 Post contains images SCQ83 : KLM serves both Shanghai and Hangzhou from AMS. Both cities are 180 km. away, that's probably the same distance between some major Benelux/Rhin-Rhur
82 sankaps : Originally, because the US was not really well located for int'l-int'l transfer traffic and so there was little need or demand for it. Today, a littl
83 boysteve : Yeah I guess that makes sense (my paranoia comment was tongue in cheek!). Although I do know people who have flown UK-USA-caribbean locations so I gu
84 Post contains images justinlee : You can't imagine besides AMS, Hangzhou even has 5xWeekly flight to Addis Ababa via Delhi! Actually Hangzhou has the second largest South Asia and We
85 sfoa380 : I'm pretty sure that once the San Jose economy is added in, it approaches Chicago and is ahead of Washington with a couple million less people.
86 AMX748 : Masiosare, that strange foe, which is not a foreigner. How long it will take for the Mexican government to act consistently with the philosophy they
87 Rara : I know, it's amazing.. It's strange more international carriers wouldn't use Hongqiao, because then they could really serve the Hangzhou and the Shan
88 sankaps : BOS is probably on EK's to-do list, along with ORD. BOS though has a different pax profile, and the South Asian population, though high in the Univer
89 Post contains links Quokkas : In April 2007 an agreement was signed by Ahmed Mohammed Al Haddabi, Deputy Director General of the General Civil Aviation Authority in the UAE and LI
90 Post contains links SCQ83 : "Historically" there has been a relevant Indian community in BOS... on top of that there are the coming and going students/researchers (most of whom
91 justinlee : There is some kind of noise restriction for Hongqiao but CA/MU is using wide body all the time. So I think that's just a rumor. It's more or less a s
92 justinlee : I agree. Some West China destinations should be top priority, including URC and KMG.
93 SCQ83 : It is surprising no Middle Eastern airlines serve Urumqi, considering the large Muslim population there and that it is a much shorter flight from the
94 justinlee : CZ had PEK-URC-SHJ and PEK-URC-DXB before. None of them seems successful. Not quite sure whether FlyDubai can succeed because now there are URC-IST,
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