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UA To Launch ORD-SNN For Summer 2013  
User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2904 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 10363 times:

United Airlines will launch seasonal nonstop flights between Chicago and Shannon on 6th June 2013. The 5-weekly flights will be operated by Boeing 757-200 equipment. The route will compliment the existing EWR-SNN service which operates daily year-round, also with 752 equipment. The schedule looks like this:

UA66 departs ORD at 18:10, arrives SNN 07:25+1
UA67 departs SNN at 11:00, arrives ORD 13:05
Operating (from ORD) Sunday, Monday, Thursday, Friday and Saturday

These flight numbers will replace the extra EWR-SNN flights that were put on during peak summer weeks the last number of years.

Here is the official press release from Shannon Airport: http://www.shannonairport.com/gns/ab...announce_new_route_to_Chicago.aspx

The ORD-SNN route was first operated in 1958 by Aer Lingus routing Shannon-Montreal-Chicago and EI continued to operate it on and off until 2009.

So next summer there will be up to four daily flights between Ireland and Chicago with EI (11 weekly DUB-ORD), AA (daily ORD-DUB) and UA (5 weekly ORD-SNN).

[Edited 2012-10-03 06:23:51]


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User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 10057 times:

I'm guessing the pairing for crews will go something like EWR - SNN - ORD - SNN - EWR.


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User currently offlineIrishAyes From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 2191 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 9750 times:

This is great news   About time UA launches a new TATL route from ORD instead of giving all the lovin' to EWR/IAD/SFO etc..


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User currently offlineJetskipper From United States of America, joined Jun 2001, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9699 times:

I have to wonder if other 757 range UK/IRL cities will be announced in the same press release. I'm somewhat surprised that they are starting SNN as opposed to DUB, GLA, MAN or EDI. Who knows, maybe they will announce all five!

User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2904 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9591 times:

Quoting Jetskipper (Reply 3):
I have to wonder if other 757 range UK/IRL cities will be announced in the same press release. I'm somewhat surprised that they are starting SNN as opposed to DUB, GLA, MAN or EDI. Who knows, maybe they will announce all five!

I think SNN has been lobbying UA for a while about a ORD service. It's been a significant "gap" in the longhaul network from the airport since EI ceased operating it in 2009 and it seemed like good sense to transfer the second daily EWR flight to ORD, especially when UA have better fitting aircraft (A330 vs 757) and there is already plenty of capacity on SNN-NYC.

I don't think UA would chance DUB-ORD as it will have up to three daily flights in peak season from EI and AA. I think GLA/EDI/BHX have a nice chance of ORD flights on the 757 though.



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User currently offlineclydenairways From Ireland, joined Jan 2007, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9515 times:

Good news for SNN, a pity it's only for 3½ months. But i guess it fits in with the short tourist season.
Hopefully if successful it might be extended in future years.

[Edited 2012-10-03 09:10:08]

User currently offlinecaleb1 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 364 posts, RR: 3
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9504 times:
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Quoting CONTACREW (Reply 1):
I'm guessing the pairing for crews will go something like EWR - SNN - ORD - SNN - EWR.

Doesn't sCO now have a small FA base in ORD? If so, wouldn't they fly the route ORD-SNN-ORD?


User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 9454 times:

Quoting caleb1 (Reply 6):
Doesn't sCO now have a small FA base in ORD? If so, wouldn't they fly the route ORD-SNN-ORD?

Yes, but ORD is only a domestic FA base, unlike Newark where they have FA bases subdivided into international, domestic & speaker. So ORD - SNN will be part of the EWR - SNN pairing.



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User currently offlinepanam330 From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 2679 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9325 times:

Very cool! A "rare" destination to see added even by adventurous airlines. Good to see a little diversity in the TATL network, and another option for *A travelers to/from Ireland.

User currently offlineAmricanShamrok From Ireland, joined May 2008, 2904 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9160 times:

Also worth noting that UA67 will arrive into Terminal 1 at ORD as it will be pre-cleared by US Customs and Border Protection at SNN before departure.


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User currently offlineby738 From Tonga, joined Sep 2000, 2326 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9094 times:

are we likely to see some more European ORD routes ?

User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 9000 times:

Why ORD-SNN and not ORD-DUB? I feel UA is much stronger at DUB than AA these days.


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User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16872 posts, RR: 51
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8828 times:

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 11):
I feel UA is much stronger at DUB than AA these days.



That is probably in the works, and can (will) be expedited should AA drop the route.



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User currently onlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8376 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 8823 times:
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This is an appropriate us of a 757. Newark to LHR is NOT a good 757 route.

User currently offlinedergay From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 46 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 8541 times:

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 5):
Good news for SNN, a pity it's only for 3½ months. But i guess it fits in with the short tourist season.
Hopefully if successful it might be extended in future years.

It should work if people think - SNN is a user friendly airport, only 2 hrs drive from the outskirts of Dublin, close to Cork, Galway, the Midlands and Kerry. Parking is available close to the terminal - the staff are friendly and try to help (big difference from the "snarlers" at DUB) - both in the airport and the taxi ranks and the transit time is way lower from door to plane and vv..



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User currently offlineHumberside From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2005, 4920 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 7696 times:

Quoting Jetskipper (Reply 3):
I have to wonder if other 757 range UK/IRL cities will be announced in the same press release. I'm somewhat surprised that they are starting SNN as opposed to DUB, GLA, MAN or EDI. Who knows, maybe they will announce all five!

What seems to be hapenning is that UA are moving frequencies from airports with more than one daily flight to EWR to other airports. This year they cut back MAN/DUB-EWR to once daily and added MAN/DUB-IAD as a replacement. Next year they are doing a similar thing at SNN, but with ORD as the replacement

I wouldn't be surprised if they move EDI's second daily frequency from EWR to ORD or IAD. However as BHX and GLA only have one daily to EWR in Summer, it would be surprising to see them get a IAD or ORD route in the short term



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User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 7300 times:

Also some smaller ad's according to United's facebook page: Washington/Dulles to Fayatteville, NC and O'Hare to Mobile, AL.


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User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 6874 times:

In addition to the SNN announcement UA will be starting a 3rd daily IAH-LHR flight with the reconfigured 763.
"
Houston-London
The additional Houston-London flight will depart Houston daily at 8:30 p.m., arriving at London Heathrow at 12:05 p.m. the following day. The return flight will depart London Heathrow daily at 1:05 p.m., arriving in Houston at 5:45 p.m. the same day. United will operate the service between Houston and London using Boeing 767-300 aircraft, with flat-bed seats, premium menu options and Economy Plus seats with additional legroom. Tickets for the additional Houston-London service will be available for sale on Oct. 6.

With the new flight, United will offer more nonstop flights between Houston and London than any other carrier."
No mention as to if this is seasonal or not. The other thread was erased by the mods...  



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User currently offlinefun2fly From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1046 posts, RR: 1
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6806 times:

Essentially just moving the existing summer bump in volume route from EWR to ORD vs. IAD where MAN, etc. went. No real volume pickup. Hard to believe the world's largest airline can't fill the extra 169x2 seats to make it weekly.

User currently offlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5582 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6758 times:

Quoting tommy767 (Reply 16):
Washington/Dulles to Fayatteville, NC

Interesting addition given that US fly FAY-DCA. I was under the (possibly mistaken) impression that a lot of the traffic on the route was associated with Fort Bragg, which would probably prefer to be dropped on the steps of the Pentagon than go to Dulles.

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 17):
reconfigured 763.

Are these frames crewed by sUA?



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User currently offlineboilerla From United States of America, joined Jul 2010, 365 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 6711 times:

Quoting clydenairways (Reply 5):
Good news for SNN, a pity it's only for 3½ months. But i guess it fits in with the short tourist season.
Hopefully if successful it might be extended in future years.

Probably not possible with a 752 in the winter. The summer months won't have a strong headwind on the return flight like it will in the winter. At ~3600mi, you're stretching a 752, but not that much for a summer flight. IAD-CDG is a similar stage length and it had problems operating in the winter.


User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 6438 times:

Quoting RyanairGuru (Reply 19):
Are these frames crewed by sUA?

Yes the 763s are crewed by sUA crews. I believe the new IAH - LHR flight will be flown out of the LHR base.



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User currently offlinetommy767 From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 6584 posts, RR: 8
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 5507 times:

Quoting boilerla (Reply 20):

ORD-SNN will struggle in the winter for certain.

I think it's wise for UA to fly ORD-DUB year round on a reg. basis with a 763. I think they would crush AA out of the market.



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User currently offlinehiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 4951 times:

Did UA buy or lease another LHR slot or which city is losing a trip?

User currently offlinefun2fly From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 1046 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 3 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 4860 times:

Quoting hiflyer (Reply 23):
Did UA buy or lease another LHR slot or which city is losing a trip?

Good question.

Perhaps EWR loses a frequency but upgauges to all new refurb 2 cabin 763's?


25 Post contains images hiflyer : Yup...after the IAD fiasco think they figured it out...summer only for now. There are no intl UA pilot bases currently and no UA 763 drivers in IAH a
26 RyanairGuru : I thought sUA had 75/76 base at IAH?
27 STT757 : UA is not utilizing all of their LHR slots, some are leased to other carriers such as VS. Not saying that's where the slot is coming from, but it's a
28 CONTACREW : I was more referring about the FAs, and less about the pilots.
29 RyanairGuru : As said up thread, they'll be crewed out of LHR
30 CONTACREW : Correct LHR based FAs will work this new flight.
31 ual777uk : i would really liked to know that way in which this new slop came around. Lose a flight elsewhere or use a leased slop. I hope its the latter and exp
32 ORDBOSEWR : There has not been any announced reduction so we must assume that UA is getting a slot returned from lease that they will use for this flight. Rememb
33 Post contains images RDH3E : SNN is also a highly seasonal market. The demand is tiny for the rest of the year. I don't think they'd fly it more than seasonally from ORD even if
34 skipness1E : Which is why the article states : "The new flights to Chicago will operate five times a week on Monday, Tuesday, Friday, Saturday and Sunday and comm
35 RyanairGuru : "subsidiary". It's what United Continental Holdings refer to the two sides as: sUA and sCO.
36 VC10er : Why is the UA from EWR to LHR on a 757 bad? I have done that flight about 5 times and enjoyed it very much - in BF?
37 Post contains images RyanairGuru : I'm warning you, you've just opened a can of worms To surmise jfk777's position (and those of other poster who hold the same attitude) it is somehow
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