Airbus_330_340 From United States of America, joined Jul 2001, 157 posts, RR: 0 Posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1243 times:
Why will northwest drop domestic widebody service in the future. I do not want to be stuck in an A320 on a four hour flight without IFE (something that DC-10s had) nor a five hour flight to hawaii on a 757-300!
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3555 posts, RR: 30 Reply 2, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 1124 times:
NW isn't planning on using the 753s to HNL. They are keeping 12 DC10-30s for higher density flights and the HNL routes. Please, lets put this nail into this exhausted discussion of widebodies vs. narrowbodys. Remember airlines are a business... they're going to do what they can to make $$$$
Co LITE From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 1087 times:
What is with Widebodies?????? Why Why Why.
You have a bigger chance of getting stuck in the middle seat (I mean middle when you talk 2x5x2. Boarding takes longer, deplaning takes longer, the lavs are always used, and the service takes longer when you have 300 people. And the comfort is gone sometimes also. And baggage claim takes longer. I agree NWA has a problem with the lack of IFE, but the A320 is so much better than being stuck in J5 on their DC-10. A CRJ is even better!
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3555 posts, RR: 30 Reply 7, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1056 times:
In about a zillion press releases and its never ending and sometimes exhaustive discussions here, it has been said, that the 330 is a replacement for the DC10 ATLANTIC fleet. It doesn't fit the bill for efficient domestic operations. Though I would imagine that the 330 will be used on some domestic flights FOR PROVING RUNS ONLY, much like the 744 was when it was first delivered to NW.
Boeing757fan From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 8, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1046 times:
I can almost assure you that the A330's WILL be used on some routes within the states. These routes may be DTW-MSP or something along those lines. The aircraft are rotated into maintenance, and, how much better can you do it to carry some people on your way. I still beoieve NW uses a 744 on the DTW-MSP route.
ETA Unknown From Comoros, joined Jun 2001, 2010 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1039 times:
I haven't seen a NW 744 in MSP for quite some time. Although the A330's may be used for Atlantic runs, I see no reason why these wont be deployed on HNL routes- why keep the fleet of gas-guzzling/high maintenance DC10's?
Azjubilee From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 3555 posts, RR: 30 Reply 10, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1000 times:
People, NW has already announced that the 330s will be used for the Atlantic operations. Why continue to speculate!? DTW and MSP are both maintenance places so there may not be any need to rotate planes through the hubs domestically. They do not operate the 744 between MSP and DTW and haven't for a long time. Only the newest DC10-30s will be kept. With the current order of 330s they can't replace ALL the DC10s. Remember, this is all according to NW, so it is fact and not my opinion.
Deltaflyertoo From United States of America, joined Nov 2000, 1589 posts, RR: 1 Reply 11, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 974 times:
People like to speculate on here because it is fun. This thread has been very good so far. You keep saying you want to put a nail to this thread, yet you are the one that has posted on this thread more than anyone else. That isn't exactly putting a nail to the thread, is it? This NW debate over their future fleet plan is the most interesting topic of discussion out there. They are the ONLY U.S. major that continues to be ambiguous about where things are going w/ the fleet and we haven't seen any deliveries yet, so this makes for some fun banter over what is next for NW.
PEOPLE-keep the posts about what YOU think NW is going to do w/ the fleet, what you think of the 753, and what you think of NW using these new birds on the domestic route network!
Na From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 9611 posts, RR: 10 Reply 13, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 952 times:
Co lite, you wrote:
"What is with Widebodies?????? Why Why Why. Boarding takes longer, deplaning takes longer, the lavs are always used, and the service takes longer when you have 300 people."
In a widebody you won´t get stuck in a claustrophobic single aisle. I hate long trips in a narrowbody and I hate long narrowbodies. Widebodies give you the feeling of more room, you have more height and the bigger the plane the more stable it flies. The worst longdistance fleight ever I had on a 757. You´ll for sure have to wait longer standing in the aisle of a 753 than in a DC-10.
And a A321 is worse than a A310.
The main issue behind NWs choice of the -comparatively - uncomfortable B753 over the A330/B767 is money. The second reason is money, and the third reason is money.
Maybe passenger complaints might change their mind.
RayChuang From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 7694 posts, RR: 5 Reply 19, posted (11 years 8 months 3 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 888 times:
I have heard that once NW builds up ETOPS flying time on the A330-300, one idea being bandied about is to phase out the DC-10-30 completely and replace them on a one-by-one basis with more A333's. After all, the A333 does have to range to fly SEA-HNL non-stop.
This means NW could have as many as 35-40 A333's in their fleet by 2010.