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United To Add 3rd Daily IAH Flight To LHR In 2013  
User currently offlineGEsubsea From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 183 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13540 times:

Looks like UA's capacity reductions at IAH are about to reverse gears slightly with an announcement today of a new service (bringing it to X3 daily) to LHR. What's driving the increase in capacity? Anyone know if this going to be launched on new 788 or an existing 763 / 772?

Also, looks like ORD will be getting a daily (summer only) rotation to SNN. Loving this new service next summer as the Irish west coast is my preferred destination when visiting (by-passing a connection in Dublin or renting a car for the 3 hr drive backtracking across the country).

http://www.chron.com/business/articl...l-add-flight-to-London-3913833.php

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User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13559 times:

Already being discussed in this thread:

UA To Launch ORD-SNN For Summer 2013 (by AmricanShamrok Oct 3 2012 in Civil Aviation)



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User currently offlineGEsubsea From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 183 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13522 times:

Got the answers to my questions....good stuff though.... It seems that UA will start with a 788 and then switch to 763 March 30th. Yes, UA will be able to claim the most flights, but in reality BA is highly competitive concerning the number of seats on the same route with either X2 772's or X2 744's depending on the time of year.

http://houston.culturemap.com/newsde...p-flight-from-houston-to-heathrow/


User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 13522 times:

Actually it's a 3rd daily flight. The new flight will be operated by sUA crews, while the 2 others flights will be operated by sCO crews. The 787 is just a temp thing, then after about 6 or 8 weeks reverts back to a 777.


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User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 13183 times:

Looking at the flight times I'd assume it is staffed by sUA LHR base. IAH has picked up quite a bit of 763 flying.
IAH-SFO
IAH-DEN
IAH-LIM
IAH-EZE
IAH-GRU
IAH-ORD
IAH-LHR
IAH-EWR



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User currently offlineshanderawx From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 136 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 13104 times:
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Why didn't CDG get the extra flight (or have it returned)? With over 80 French geophysical companies in Houston, the French presence at very educated and professional levels here is high. At one time, before Emirates, Qatar, AF/UA had a total of 4 flights to CDG daily, now down to 6 a week, all on AF.

User currently offlinesmoot4208 From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 1311 posts, RR: 12
Reply 6, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 13100 times:

Where do they have the slots to operate this third flight?

User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 13078 times:

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 4):
Looking at the flight times I'd assume it is staffed by sUA LHR base. IAH has picked up quite a bit of 763 flying.
IAH-SFO
IAH-DEN
IAH-LIM
IAH-EZE
IAH-GRU
IAH-ORD
IAH-LHR
IAH-EWR

I'm hearing it will be operated by the sUA LHR base.



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User currently offlineaznmadsci From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 3675 posts, RR: 6
Reply 8, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 12 hours ago) and read 12996 times:

Quoting CONTACREW (Reply 7):
I'm hearing it will be operated by the sUA LHR base.

In the previous thread that was deleted, we talked about the time mentioning that it may be a late departure out of IAH. What I was now wondering, whether the flight will be out of T1 or T4 at LHR. The IAH flight utilize T4 along with other sCO flights, or have some of the EWR flights departed from T1?



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User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 12645 times:

Quoting aznmadsci (Reply 8):
In the previous thread that was deleted, we talked about the time mentioning that it may be a late departure out of IAH. What I was now wondering, whether the flight will be out of T1 or T4 at LHR. The IAH flight utilize T4 along with other sCO flights, or have some of the EWR flights departed from T1?

More then likely it will also depart from T4. The departure out of IAH is 8:25p I believe.



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User currently offlineual777uk From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2005, 3356 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 12630 times:

This is great news for LHR but where is the slot coming from?

User currently offlineDFWHeavy From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 560 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 12585 times:

When will the flight be loaded into the system?


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User currently offlineCONTACREW From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 424 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 12564 times:

Quoting DFWHeavy (Reply 11):
When will the flight be loaded into the system?

Flight will be loaded on Saturday 10/6.



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User currently onlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7642 posts, RR: 25
Reply 13, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 12558 times:

Quoting shanderawx (Reply 5):

Why didn't CDG get the extra flight (or have it returned)?

Because it never really made money. Perhaps IAH-CDG is a market that can only support one carrier.



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User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5192 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 12414 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 13):
Because it never really made money. Perhaps IAH-CDG is a market that can only support one carrier.

A carrier with arguably better feed beyond CDG and arguably better product. AF uses a 77W/772 on the route. I think for UA it was a better move to flow CDG traffic over the other hubs - I'm not so sure that SFO-CDG will perform any better though.



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User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 938 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 4 hours ago) and read 12407 times:

This is good news, I think UA is beginning to add flights out of IAH, step by step.


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User currently offlineTdan From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 438 posts, RR: 3
Reply 16, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 12318 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 13):

Because it never really made money. Perhaps IAH-CDG is a market that can only support one carrier.

It definitely made money for CO and for this reason, the route operated for nearly 20 years. It fell on hard times with the merger as most of the flow traffic could be routed over ORD or IAD and the 762 business class product was completely uncompetitive with AF. IAH-CDG is still a big local market with a very significant premium component.

I still do not understand the move to SFO-CDG as this flight will have zero flow traffic and will have to rely on a local market where the premium market size is roughly the same as IAH-CDG. AF could just put an A380 on the route and that would be all she wrote for UA.



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User currently onlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7642 posts, RR: 25
Reply 17, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 12285 times:

Quoting Tdan (Reply 16):
It definitely made money for CO and for this reason,

According to the sources I had within CO about 4 years ago, IAH-CDG has always been the weakest link in Houston's CO/UA international route network. I was told several times by a very reliable source that IAH-LHR and IAH-AMS brought in buckets of cash, but most years IAH-CDG lost money. He kept using the phrase "a work in progress" year after year.

Quoting Tdan (Reply 16):
I still do not understand the move to SFO-CDG

Im with you there. SFO-CDG was a dud when UA flew it years ago. Dont think it will be any different today.

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 14):
A carrier with arguably better feed beyond CDG and arguably better product. AF uses a 77W/772 on the route

With UA exiting the market, a 77W should be a good fit. The 77W will add about 35% of the capacity lost back into the market. IAH-CDG is a market where perhaps one 777 isnt enough but a 777 and a 767 is too much. A 77W would be a great happy medium.



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User currently offlinePSA1011 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 297 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 12126 times:
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Quoting GEsubsea (Thread starter):
Im with you there. SFO-CDG was a dud when UA flew it years ago. Dont think it will be any different today.

I am not sure that people understand that the Bay Area is in the midst of another tech boom, which was not the case in 2005. Salesforce is hiring thousands each of the last couple of years, as are Twitter, Facebook, Google, just to name a few. Maybe UA is thinking they can get in on the action, even if their product is not the best, since a lot of these tech people are SFO O&D, and may have already been flying UA domestically for business.


User currently offlineTdan From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 438 posts, RR: 3
Reply 19, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 12076 times:

Quoting LAXdude1023 (Reply 17):
According to the sources I had within CO about 4 years ago, IAH-CDG has always been the weakest link in Houston's CO/UA international route network. I was told several times by a very reliable source that IAH-LHR and IAH-AMS brought in buckets of cash, but most years IAH-CDG lost money. He kept using the phrase "a work in progress" year after year.

IAH-CDG performance relative to IAH-LHR/AMS I can believe. However, IAH-CDG during Skyteam times did very well.

Back to topic, I'm not a fan of this move to increase IAH-LHR to 3 daily. When CO operated the split LHR/LGW 3x daily operation, the schedule was constantly in flux and this frequency never seemed optimal. The late flight to LHR was never full and always had limitless reward SaverPass availability. Color me skeptical with this increase, especially with all the doom and gloom preached by UA that IAH is going to be reduced over time. The new frequency will require improved feed.



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User currently offline2travel2know2 From Panama, joined Apr 2010, 2632 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 11910 times:

Those slots for UA 3rd daily IAH-LHR-IAH, where do they come from?
Grant that IAH-LGW/STN instead of a 3rd IAH-LHR may not make sense (even if cheaper to operate than to LHR), but UA flying B757 EWR/CLE-LGW/STN one day might.



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User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 938 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days ago) and read 11795 times:

Quoting Tdan (Reply 19):

The doom and gloom is history, UA is now moved on.



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User currently offlineairbazar From United States of America, joined Sep 2003, 8412 posts, RR: 10
Reply 22, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days ago) and read 11776 times:

Can you say, LHR-IAH-AKL?  

User currently offlineDualQual From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 773 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days ago) and read 11739 times:

Quoting airbazar (Reply 22):
Can you say, LHR-IAH-AKL?

You could if IAH-AKL wasn't whacked because WN wants to go to CUN from HOU.


User currently offlineAVENSAB727 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 938 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (1 year 12 months 2 days ago) and read 11723 times:

Quoting DualQual (Reply 23):

Tourism is in decline in NZ.



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25 neveragain : Oh how I enjoy your posts!
26 hereandthere41 : Simple economics...The U.S. has historically had closer ties to the UK than to France and that's where many customers want to travel. Look at the amo
27 CONTACREW : First major changes to UA's S13 Europe operation is out this weekend (05/06OCT12). Majority of the changes below are in effect from 30MAR13 from US, 3
28 GEsubsea : Everything points to mainly a downgrade in a/c size, but alittle more frequency. Where are the 777's being deployed?
29 CONTACREW : sCO is taking over NRT - SIN, so there's where a couple 777s are going.
30 COflyerBOS : Wow. Cannot believe that UA is going to 2-class 763s on all flights between IAH and LHR. Just more reason to fly BA.
31 STT757 : Where are all the 777s going? LAX-PVG (sUA 3 class) replaced by 787 LAX-NRT (sUA 3 class) replaced by 787 IAH-LOS (sCO 2 class) replaced by 787 IAH-LH
32 jfk777 : What happened to the "Texas" sized 777 with Business First for Houston to LHR use. UA is using 20 year old 767's in Houston ? That is going to go ove
33 fun2fly : Right on. Hilarious. Again, where did the slot come from?
34 CONTACREW : They are are being moved to other flights, and the sUA 763s taking over IAH - LHR are not 20 years old they are between 11 & 14 years old. 757 to
35 jfk777 : DO BA, Virgin, Cathay, JAL, Qantas, Singapore Airlines, ANA, TAM, Emirates, Ethihad, Qatar or Air Canada fly 757 to LHR ? No way in hell they do. IF
36 Post contains links STT757 : These are the newly reconfigured two class 767-300s that have the new lie flat business first seats, huge avod screens throughout and 777 style inter
37 STT757 : This is route, and EZE, were the two routes I was expecting to be moved to EWR after the merger.
38 david_itl : None of them have 757s in their fleet. AC flies A319s into LHR. Your point?
39 CALPSAFltSkeds : Three current sUA 777A aircraft with the old international configuration are going to be converted to Hawaiian configuration, freeing up several 764
40 STT757 : How many 787s are UA taking delivery of in 2013?
41 STT757 : The schedules are still showing Pacific configured 764s operating SFO, EWR, IAD-SFO for April. Lets say that the conversion of the three 777s to Paci
42 AVENSAB727 : Some people are complaining that these changes are not good for IAH, they say IAH is being screwed.
43 SonomaFlyer : They should be rounding out their first 11 by the end of 2013. (sCO initial order) From a previous thread, I didn't think sUA's 788 order starts unti
44 STT757 : So an additional 6 787-8s and the previously mentioned 777s is building towards something.
45 United1 : sUAs start coming online in 2016, the 789s should start coming onboard in 2014...assuming they are ready by then.
46 fun2fly : 2012 5 788's 2013 6 788's 2014 First 789 All CO units. There is a mix of things going on at UA now. Add 11 788's, take away 10 762's. So +1. On the 7
47 STT757 : The 10 762s are really being replaced by 14 767-300s that were previously in domestic configuration. Those 763s are being replaced by 753s that previ
48 CALPSAFltSkeds : 5 of the 762s are already gone. 5 more to go, and are replaced by either the 788 or 763ER depending on how you count it. But, only 5 more widebodies
49 AVENSAB727 : But why is LHR going entirely 763? A lot of people on the forum on Houston Spotters are not happy with this and are saying that IAH is not recieving a
50 STT757 : Tell them ORD-LHR is also 3 daily 763.
51 bongodog1964 : You've answered your own question, demand for IAG - CDG has fallen from 28 flights/week to 6. Why would UA waste money on adding in extra flights ?
52 fun2fly : Then EWR is really being screwed w/4x752 to LHR. Nutty really. So no one knows where the slot came from?
53 AVENSAB727 : I hope these reconned 763s have winglets.
54 United1 : They do... along with new overhead bins, new seats and AVOD nose to tail.
55 AVENSAB727 : I bet more capacity increases will occur at IAH.
56 LAXdude1023 : What's all the bellyaching for? It's a capacity increase and the difference between a UA 777 and a UA 763 isn't as drastic as an AA 777 and a AA 763.
57 jfk777 : You can try to sell the UA 767 as a "junior 777" but its still not the big Texas sized 777. I like those BIG GE 90 engines. Texas is about BIG not sm
58 AVENSAB727 : The 777 will still be at IAH for HNL and NRT.
59 Post contains images RyanairGuru : To be even clearer, the 767 and 777 are totally indistinguishable other than 2 less seats across. Why? Because they now have more choice which is bet
60 SonomaFlyer : Roughly 95% of the flying public could care less the a/c type they fly on. They are focused on price, price and a little bit on the amenities. The dif
61 yellowtail : Seriously, even if the 763 are refurbs...I am now going BA YUP. Question remains where are all these freed up 777s going....maybe S. America?
62 SonomaFlyer : I'm not clear on why you'd think BA's product is so much more superior...are we talking J class or Y? The hard product should be pretty similar, just
63 AVENSAB727 : Don't make me laugh
64 RyanairGuru : Obviously it's your choice, but do you mind explaining why? There isn't any different in terms of product between the 777 and 767 - even the over hea
65 AVENSAB727 : That is why I don't understand why some are belly aching about it.
66 WTXJET : I will not be belly aching about the change in aircraft. I'm disappointed to see flight 004/005 go to IAD. For at least 26 years, when I first flew IA
67 CONTACREW : Also Flight 1 & 2 are being redeployed on the IAD - MUC - IAD pairings.
68 Post contains images RyanairGuru : Cue conspiracy theory about drawing down of PMCO hubs and shifting capacity to IAD...
69 Post contains images aznmadsci : This just made my day!!!
70 gigneil : Was it? All 15 years? Those 767s are going to be brand new on the inside. They'll be nicer than the 777s Thinking like that is why companies go out o
71 AVENSAB727 : I agree with you.
72 jfk777 : Continental was far more successful then United and it flew 777 from Houston to London. Nothing has changed so much that some flights shouldn't have
73 gigneil : Continental was far more successful by what metric? Customers had far less options for places to fly through to London on Continental, a. And b, Unite
74 SonomaFlyer : If it made more sense ECONOMICALLY to keep the 777 on the IAH to LHR route, UA would do just that. Instead, they are adding another flight. All three
75 CONTACREW : Passengers may not suffer, but sCO FAs based out of the HTA FA base are going to suffer. They are loosing IAH - HNL next month, will be loosing IAH -
76 Post contains images gigneil : If they want better flying opportunities, its time to agree to a joint CBA. SN
77 CONTACREW : Ha that won't happen anytime soon.
78 aznmadsci : Is IAH-GRU going to a 763? I must have missed that one. What about EZE? Wouldn't AMS be temporary until it becomes a 788?
79 AVENSAB727 : I think so.
80 United1 : IAH-AMS is only temporarily on the 788 - the 763 takes that route in over sometime just prior to summer IIRC. GIG and NRT are 2 class 772's HNL is a
81 CONTACREW : Yes IAH - GRU will be going sUA 2-cabin 763 (the reconfigured one of course) IAH - AMS will be a 787 from 12/4-3/29. On 3/31 IAH - AMS switches over
82 United1 : My guess is that you will see the freed up 777's move to EWR which would allow them to start pulling the sCO 752's off some of the transatlantic flig
83 Post contains images boilerla : Do BA, Virgin, Cathay, JAL, Qantas, Singapore, ANA, TAM, Emirates, Ethihad, Qatar or Air Canada have more than 7 hubs to feed LHR traffic? Nope. UA h
84 fun2fly : So we still don't know where the slot came from ?
85 jfk777 : I never mentioned an A380, that is your call. And some of the airline I listed are allergic to A380: ANA & Cathay among them.
86 AussieItaliano : Well then, if "Texas sized" is what the goal is, then why aren't you demanding that the 744 be put on this route????? See ya! Amen! I think that the
87 United1 : UA is currently, and at least in the schedule that was loaded a few days ago, flying 2 daily flights between SFO and LHR as far in the future as you
88 STT757 : The fact that UA has the 787 on IAH-AMS/LHR for a period this Spring makes me think that they might be getting permanent 787 service later in 2013 whe
89 Post contains images RyanairGuru : Right, but you still ignored his central point: BA has one hub, EK has one hub, SQ has one hub, CX has one hub... For the record I'd be interested to
90 SonomaFlyer : While it is possible the 777's could replace the 757's, that is a big capacity jump on many of those routes. If your theory holds, they could rotate
91 Post contains links and images STT757 : 777s replacing 757s is a bit too much, although in the past CO has flown 777s to MAD and MAN which are now 757 routes. View Large View MediumPhoto ©
92 david_itl : They did convert the MAN 777 route to 2 x 757.
93 SonomaFlyer : A jump up to a 767 I could see on many of those routes. A jump up to a 777 would not happen for a while (i.e. until this Euro Debt crisis is solved an
94 AVENSAB727 : I think that IAH is really benefitting from the merger.
95 fun2fly : Right. Summer MAD and BCN have been 2x752's also so all 3 could support a 777 in the summer w/1 frequency if the economy picks up. One thing that no
96 Post contains links STT757 : Except for the lose of the headquarters and all those high paying jobs. However that said Houston's economy is robust, they can, and have, more easil
97 drerx7 : How do you figure that? I think that it is far too early to make a statement like that. From a spotter's perspective, yes, we now have more 757s on s
98 neveragain : Regarding the surplus 777s, and given UA's no-growth capacity guidance, could the answer be that more aircraft will be retired? 744s perhaps?
99 AVENSAB727 : Given that UA could improve over time. And the added frequency on the LHR flight.
100 Post contains images drerx7 : Not a true indication of anything really. UA is in the business to make money (supposed to be anyway) and if adding routes to IAH make money than so
101 AVENSAB727 : Yeah but at least IAH has been right sized, I would like to ride on those reconfigured 763s!!
102 United1 : Sorry I should have been clearer....777s replace 767s which could then replace 757s...more of an incremental increase in capacity that way.
103 thomasphoto60 : WOW.......it took 101 posts before your infamous "right sized" comment. You're slipping.
104 SonomaFlyer : If UA is going to make a big foray into South America, I would think IAH would be geographically positioned for such a move. You could funnel passenge
105 AVENSAB727 : At least the 763s coming in we will reconfigured.
106 drerx7 : LOL, IAH hasn't been fully rightsized yet. I'll be on one of those 763s next Saturday.
107 neveragain : Well, if it's right-sized, it must be alright. Thanks for the update.
108 AVENSAB727 : Well, I those 763s will stay till more 787s come in.
109 VV701 : And I do not know for certain. But there are some clues: At the start of Summer Season 2011 LH had 528 weekly LHR slots. BD had 800. In October 2011
110 neveragain : I'm sorry, but I don't follow the reasoning here. If I understand correctly, UA is adding 20% more seats per day (214-seat 763 configured 30/49/135 t
111 AVENSAB727 : [quote=neveragain,reply=110][/quote ] This is a plus for IAH and its passengers, The Reconfigged 763 will be like brand new on the inside and will be
112 drerx7 : I agree. Hate to see the 777s and 764s go from the IAH schedule as much as they are from a spotter's perspective. That's what the indications are...i
113 AVENSAB727 : I think NRT will see an increase in capacity too.
114 drerx7 : Based on....? If we saw an increase I'd hope it would be NH with at least a 787. Of course the wet dream for all the spotters is for UA to fly the 74
115 AVENSAB727 : Based on my opinion, but it could be ANA.
116 RyanairGuru : There is already is, along with an A320 base
117 AVENSAB727 : I think this increase in capacity was a very smart move by UA in some ways.
118 neveragain : Yet another thing I don't understand. IAH has passenger and cargo 744 and (I believe) cargo 748 service. What difference would an additional flight m
119 Post contains images drerx7 : If you sir cannot understand then the fundamentals of being a spotter and airline enthusiast is lost on you. Flyertalk may be more your speed. While
120 AVENSAB727 : The UA 763 reconfigured models will be a good ride for the passengers. It is sad to see the triple 7s leave IAH at most. But I think this is a precurs
121 CONTACREW : IAH will still 777s. UA7 IAH - NRT UA129 IAH - GIG UA219 IAH - HNL.
122 flyhossd : Which raises the question - have joint negotiations even started for the sUA and sCO flight attendants?
123 United1 : yes...they started working on a joint contract on August 27th.
124 neveragain : A fine explanation, which as a native Houstonian, I get. DRE likes big planes!! But the figure of speech is tongue-in-cheek. Not sure how tongue and
125 AVENSAB727 : I hear that these changes to the IAH-LHR flight are seasonal.
126 neveragain : Even if it is, what does it matter? It only seems to matter to the extent that a 777 is bigger than a 767. To hell with an additional frequency or pa
127 drerx7 : They are not seasonal as far as I know.
128 AVENSAB727 : That is good to hear. It is a big win for Passengers.
129 neveragain : Passengers will be so happy that they will join hands from Houston to Chicago and all will be right with the world.
130 AVENSAB727 : They will be happy because they will be flying on a reconfigged 763s that look brand new on the inside.
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