Nimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3325 posts, RR: 11
Reply 1, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 42712 times:
From the previous thread:
Quote: now D-ABYD to join the fleet. ...and from 13th September add BLR to that list.
I'm due to fly BLR-FRA on the 748 next weekend, and was checking the fraport website, it seems like the FRA-BLR is being operated by the same frame D-ABYD both yesterday and today. I was not able to find information from further back - but does LH rotate it's 748s over the 3 destinations, or do they have the same frame do the same destination all week long?
747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2341 posts, RR: 15
Reply 2, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 42706 times:
Quoting Nimish (Reply 1): I was not able to find information from further back - but does LH rotate it's 748s over the 3 destinations, or do they have the same frame do the same destination all week long?
747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2341 posts, RR: 15
Reply 9, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 41872 times:
Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (Oct-05-2012)
Updates from previous listing (Sept-08) :
- Firing order : RC525 and RC548 have exchanged their positions.
- Now RC525 will be produced at L/N 1479 and RC548 at L/N 1481, L/N 1487 added.
- Delivered : L/N1461-RC506, L/N 1462-RC579.
- Emerged from Final Assembly Line : L/N 1465-RC507.
- Several new scheduled delivery dates, corrections and additional background info.
L/N 1420 - 747-8R7F, RC501, serial number 35808, F/F Feb-08-2010, test aircraft #1, light Boeing livery, test reg. N747EX, Cargolux reg. LX-VCA (LX-ECV-- NTU), selcal code CK-EQ, ferried June-08-2011 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard. Returned to KPAE at October-02-2012, now with test registration N5020K, Acceptance/Delivery date : TBD.
L/N 1421 - 747-8KZF, RC521, serial number 36136, F/F March-17-2010, test aircraft #2, light Boeing livery, test reg. N5017Q, NCA reg. JA-11KZ , ferried May-29-2012 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard.
L/N 1422 - 747-8KZF, RC522, serial number 36137, F/F March-14-2010, test aircraft #3, light Boeing livery, test reg. N50217, NCA reg. JA-12KZ, ferried Oct-06-2011 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard.
@ L/N 1423 - 747-8R7F, RC502, serial number 35806, F/F Aug-31-2011, full livery, name : City of Esch-sur-Alzette, test registration N5014K, Cargolux reg. LX-VCB (LX-ACV-- NTU), selcal code CK-GQ, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX1JS- KSEA-ELLX) date : October-12-2011.
@ L/N 1424 - 747-8R7F, RC503, serial number 35807, F/F July-22-2010, test aircraft #4, full livery, name : City of Ettelbruck, test reg. N5573S, Cargolux reg. LX-VCC (LX-DCV-- NTU), selcal code CL-KQ, Acceptance and delivery flight (CLX789-KSEA-CYYC-ELLX) date: March-23-2012.
@ L/N 1425 - 747-8HTF, RC541, serial number 37132, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo( #1), full KAL livery, HL7609, selcal code AD-FL , F/F Jan-10-2012, Acceptance date Feb-06-2012, Delivery flight (KAL28D –RKSI/ICN ) date : Feb-07-2012.
@ L/N 1426 - 747-8HTF, RC546, serial number 37133, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo (#2), full KAL livery, test registration N5510E, HL7610, selcal code MQ-FJ, KPAE flight line, F/F Aug 18-2012, Acceptance / Delivery flight (KAL28D-PKSI/ICN) date : Sept 04-2012.
@ L/N 1427 - 747-867F, RC551, serial number 39238, Cathay #1, registration B-LJA, selcal code CR-HM, special Hong Kong Trader livery, F/F November 05-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date: November-15-2011.
@ L/N 1428 - 747-867F, RC552, serial number 39239, Cathay #2, , registration B-LJB, full livery, F/F November-16-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date : November-23-2011.
L/N 1429 - 747-87UF, RC571, serial number 37562, Atlas Air #1 (NTU), painted basic white-dark blue BA colours), stored at KPAE flight line (slow refurbishment in progress??)
L/N 1430 - 747-8HVF, RC601, serial number 37580, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #1, registration VQ-BGZ (Volga Dnepr Group) , selcal code AH-KM, full ABC livery, KPAE flight line, F/F Sept-16-2012, Acceptance/ Delivery flight date : TBD
@ L/N 1431 - 747-8KZF, RC523, serial number 36138, F/F Feb-3-2011, test aircraft #5, NCA #3, test registration N6009F, registration JA13KZ, selcal code FQ-EM, new (adapted) NCA livery, refurbished at Lackland AFB and KPAE, Acceptance date July 25 2012. Delivery flight (NCA696 - RJAA) date : Aug-01-2012. First operational flight NCA108 ( RJAA-KLAX) Aug-13-2012.
L/N 1432 - 747-87UF, RC572, serial number 37563, Atlas Air #2 (NTU), white livery, no engines, stored : Tower Apron KPAE.
L/N 1433 - 747-867F, RC553, serial number 39240, Cathay #3, registration B-LJC, full livery, no engines installed, stored : Tower Apron KPAE, Delivery in 2013 ?
L/N 1434 - 747-8JK, RC001, serial number 38636, 747-8I test aircraft #1, destined for a BBJ customer (State of Kuwait), test registration N6067E, registration 9K-GAA, full red-orange Boeing Sunrise livery, selcal code CQ-AJ, Official first Intercontinental roll-out ceremony happened at February 13, F/F March 20th, -2011. During refurbishment at KPAE all engines were removed for several weeks and again installed, re-painted in full “ State of Kuwait “ livery, KPAE flight line, Scheduled Acceptance /Delivery : October 30-2012.
L/N 1435 - 747-830, RC021, serial number 37826, F/F April-26-2011, 747-8I test aircraft #2, test registration N6067U, Lufthansa #1, selcal code CS-HP, basic LH color scheme, without lettering and LH logo, future LH registration D-ABYE, stored at KPAE, with engines removed, awaiting refurbishment to delivery standard. Scheduled delivery date was September-30-2012 , but postponed till Sept 30-2013?
@ L/N 1436 - 747-8R7F, RC504, serial number 35809, Cargolux #4, full Cargolux livery, name : City of Luxembourg, registration LX-VCD, selcal code AJ-CM, F/F September-02 -2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX789-ELLX) date : October 13-2011.
L/N 1437 - 747-87UF, RC573, serial number 37564, Atlas Air #3 (NTU), white livery with both rudders painted in Atlas livery, stored : Tower Apron KPAE.
L/N 1438 - 747-867F, RC554, serial number 39241, Cathay # 4, full livery, no engines, registration B-LJD, KPAE flight line, Delivery in 2013 ?
@ L/N 1439 - 747-8KB , RC002, serial number 37544, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri Flight , test registration N5022E, registration A7-HHE, white livery, F/F Jan-30-2012, Acceptance date Feb-27-2012, Delivery flight (A7HHE-CYVR-KIAB) date Feb-28-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin has been installed at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas, Ferry flight to Hamburg at Aug- 29-2012, Cabin outfitting at Lufthansa Technik in Hamburg, Germany. Service entry in 2014.
@ L/N 1440 - 747-8Z5 , RC003, serial number 37500, BBJ customer Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight (Presidential Flight Authority) , white livery, 747-8I test aircraft #3, test registration N5020K, future registration A6-PFA, selcal code MR-DQ , F/F June 30-2011, Acceptance date May 24, Delivery flight (A6PFA-KIAB) date May-29-2012, will be stored during summer 2012 at Wichita, thereafter Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) . Cabin outfitting will be completed by Jet Aviation in Basel, Switzerland.
@ L/N 1441 - 747-867F, RC555, serial number 39242, Cathay #5 , test registration N1785B, Cathay registration B-LJE, selcal code BF-CS, full livery, F/F Aug-13-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : October-31-2011
@ L/N 1442 - 747-87UF, RC574, serial number 37561, Atlas Air #4 , full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSD, selcal code HL-ZQ, F/F October-21-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (GSS7478- EGSS) date : November-03-2011
@ L/N 1443 - 747-830, RC022, serial number 37827, Lufthansa #2, test registration N5016R, LH registration D-ABYA, full livery, name : Brandenburg, selcal code BR-DA, F/F Feb-08-2012, Acceptance date April-25-2012, Delivery flight (DLH748 – EDDF) date : May 01 2012. Post delivery maintenance performed at Lufthansa Technik (EDDF). Inaugural flight DLH416 (EDDF-KIAD ) date: June-01-2012.
@ L/N 1444 - 747-87UF, RC575, serial number 37568, Atlas Air #5, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSE, selcal code HM-BQ, F/F November-17-2011, Acceptance date : December-05-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-19-2011.
@ L/N 1445 - 747-87UF, RC576, serial number 37569, Atlas Air #6, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSF, selcal code DK-JQ, F/F December-0 5-2011, Acceptance date : December-15-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-27-2011.
@ L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud (Kingdom Holding Company), test registration N458BJ, registration HZ-HMS1 , white livery, F/F May-30-2012, Acceptance date: June 29-2012, Delivery flight (N458BJ- CYVR-KSBD) date July 9-2012. Stored at San Bernadino . Will be ferried to Boeing's Wichita, Kansas Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) facility for installation of the Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin. Thereafter , by the the year-end, the aircraft will be flown to Hamburg for cabin outfitting by Lufthansa Technik.
@ L/N 1447 - 747-867F, RC556, serial number 39243, Cathay #6 , registration B-LJF, full livery, FAL Roll out date November 2, selcal code DR-EJ, F/F December-01-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : December-12-2011.
@ L/N 1448 - 747-8HVF, RC 602, serial number 37581, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #2, registration VQ-BLQ, selcal code FM-DS, full livery, the last assembled 747-8 aircraft in 2011, F/F December-21-2011, Acceptance date Jan-26-2012. Delivery flight (ABW5011- KORD) date : Feb-03-2012.
@ L/N 1449 - 747-8KB , RC005, serial number 37075, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri flight, leased from Lewiston Investments, A7-HJA , selcal CE-JM, white livery, F/F March-31-2012, Acceptance and Delivery flight (A7HJA-CYVR-KIAB) date April -25-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas. Cabin outfitting will be done by completion center AMAC in Basel, Switzerland.
@ L/N 1450 - 747-867F, RC557, serial number 39244, Cathay #7, future registration B-LJG, full livery, selcal code LM-AJ, F/F February-11-2012, Acceptance date Feb-25-2012, Delivery flight (CPA3335-VHHH) date Feb-27-2012.
@ L/N 1451 - 747-830, RC023, serial number 37828, , Lufthansa #3, full livery, selcal code CR-DP, D-ABYC, F/F June-07-2012, Acceptance date June-30-2012, Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date July-01-2012, PDM by LH Technik at EDDF. First operational Flight DLH418 (EDDF-KIAD) July 25-2012.
@ L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, , AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #3, full livery, test reg. N1788B, registration VQ-BLR, selcal code DK-FS, F/F March-16-2012, Acceptance date : March-30-2012, Delivery flight (ABW4011-KORD) date : April 04-2012.
@ L/N 1453 - 747-830, RC024, serial number 37829, Lufthansa #4 , D-ABYD, full livery, KPAE flight line, F/F Aug 01-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date Aug-24-2012, PDM by LH technik, First operational flight DLH754 (EDDF-VOBL) September 13-2012.
@ L/N 1454 -747-8R7F, RC505, serial number 35810, Cargolux #5, full livery, name : City of Echternach, registration LX-VCE, selcal AM-JP, F/F May 05 -2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CLX773-KSEA-KLAX-ELLX) date May 24-2012.
@ L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, serial number 37570, Atlas Air #7, full Panalpina livery, name: Spirit of Panalpina, registration N850GT, selcal code CM-GJ, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, F/F May-15-2012, Acceptance and delivery flight (GTI609-VHHH) date : May-31-2012.
L/N 1456 - 747-830, RC025, serial number 37830, Lufthansa #5, D-ABYF, full livery, KPAE flight line, F/F Sept-28-2012, Scheduled Acceptance/Delivery date October-23-2012.
@ L/N 1457 - 747-867F, RC558, serial number 39245, Cathay #8, full livery, test registration N6018N, registration B-LJH, F/F June -14-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CPA3337- CYVR)date : July 13 2012.
@ L/N 1458 - 747-87UF, RC578, serial number 37565, Atlas Air #8, Full Panalpina livery, name : Passion for Solutions, registration N851GT, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, F/F July 12-2012, Acceptance date July 24, Delivery flight (KHSV-GTI9037)date July 25-2012.
L/N 1459 - 747-8LQ , RC006, serial number 41060, (unknown)BBJ customer , named : 521 in Boeing documents, test registration N455BJ, white livery, KPAE flight line, F/F expected in first week of October, Scheduled Acceptance/Delivery date : October 31-2012.
@ L/N 1460 - 747-867F, RC559, serial number 39247, Cathay #9, future registration B-LJI, full livery, KPAE Flight line, F/F Aug-20-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CPA3335 - CYVR) date Aug-30-2012.
@ L/N 1461 - 747-8R7F, RC506, serial number 35811, Cargolux #6, registration LX-VCF, full livery, name : City of Grevenmacher, F/F Aug 30-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CLX789-KSEA-ELLX )date Sept 12-2012.
@ L/N 1462 - 747-87UF, RC579, serial number 37571, Atlas Air #9, registration N852GT, full Atlas livery, KPAE flight line, FAL roll-out Aug 07-2012, F/F September 14-2012, Acceptance date Sept-30-2012 /Delivery flight (GT9812-KCVG) date October- 02-2012.
L/N1463 - 747-8HVF, RC604, serial number 37669, Air Bridge Cargo Airlines (ABC) #4 , VQ-BRH, unpainted with white rudders, KPAE flight line, expected delivery : TBD
L/N1464 - 747-867F, RC560, serial number 39246, Cathay 10, future registration B-LJJ, roll-out date Sept. 5, KPAE flight line, Acceptance/Delivery date : October 24-1012.
L/N1465 - 747-8R7F, RC507, serial number 35812, Cargolux #7, registration LX-VCG, KPAE flight line, Scheduled Acceptance/Delivery date : November 15-2012.
At this moment : 4 Airframes at the Final Assembly Line (FAL) at Everett Building 40-22
L/N 1466 - 747-8**/BBJ, RC007 , slant position #1, scheduled FAL roll-out and roll into the 40-23 (next door) on October 7. On October 9 it’s scheduled to roll out to the flight line.
L/N 1467 - 747-87UF, RC580, serial number 37572, Atlas Air #10, N853GT, slant position #2.
L/N 1468 - 747-8**/BBJ, RC008, body join position
L/N 1469 - 747-8KZF, RC524, serial number 37394, NCA#4, registration JA14KZ, wing join position.
Airframes (18), scheduled for Final Assembly (Subject to change).
L/N 1470 - 747-830, RC026, serial number 37831, Lufthansa #6, D-ABYG, scheduled delivery *Jan 31 2013
L/N 1471 - 747-87UF, RC581, Atlas Air #11
L/N 1472 - 747-830, RC027, serial number 37832, Lufthansa #7, D-ABYH, scheduled delivery* Feb 28 2013
L/N 1473 - 747-8R7F, RC508, serial number 35821, Cargolux #8, registration LX-VCH
L/N 1474 - 747-8B5F, RC547, serial number 37654, KAL#3, HL7617
L/N 1475 - 747-830, RC028, serial number 37833, Lufthansa #8, D-ABYI, scheduled delivery*April 30 2013
L/N 1476 - 747-87UF, RC582, Atlas Air #12
L/N 1477 - 747-830, RC029, serial number 37834, Lufthansa #9, D-ABYJ, scheduled delivery* June 30 2013
L/N 1478 - 747-8R7F, RC509, serial number 35822, Cargolux #9, registration LX-VCI
L/N 1479 - 747-8KZF, RC525, serial number 36139, NCA #5, registration JA15KZ
L/N 1480 - 747-830, RC030, serial number 37835, Lufthansa #10, D-ABYK, scheduled delivery* July 31 2013
L/N 1481 - 747-8B5F, RC548, serial number 37655, KAL #4
L/N 1482 - 747-8HVF, RC605, Air Bridge Cargo( ABC) #5
L/N 1483 - 747-8FTF***, RC631, Air China Cargo #1 (CGC )
L/N 1484 - 747-8FTF***, RC632, Air China Cargo #2 (CGC)
L/N 1485 - 747-8KZF, RC526, NCA #6, registration JA16KZ
L/N 1486 - 747-8FTF***, RC633, Air China Cargo #3 (CGC)
L/N 1487 - 747-8KZF, RC527, NCA #7, registration JA17KZ
? = Not confirmed
*= Only one (1) source : http://lh-taufnamen.de/lufthansa
**= Boeing Customer code not known.
***=Boeing internal airline code CGC = Air China Cargo . However no “not identified “ customer is added to the Boeing order list. Aircraft are probably leased from a still unknown lessor (GECAS, DAE ??) seen the fact that a direct order (or a changed order from the 747-8I to -8F) must have been reported to the HK stock exchange. The Boeing customer code could be -FT (Air China Cargo) or the customer code of the lessor.
Newark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 41669 times:
What's the deal with line numbers 1433 (RC553 in 747classic's list) and 1438 (RC554) for Cathay Pacific? They've already taken delivery of two earlier frames by line number and several later examples as well. I would imagine that they weren't delivered out of the box for the same reason that the three Atlas NTUs haven't been (apparently,) that they don't perform as well as later builds, but plenty of "early" frames are now delivered and in service. Is it just a case of Boeing prioritizing other refurbishments and deliveries over these?
747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2341 posts, RR: 15
Reply 21, posted (2 years 6 months 2 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 40874 times:
N458BJ (HZ-HMS1) B747-8JA BBJ Prince Sultan Bin Abdulaziz has been flown from San Bernadino, CA (KSBD) to Lackland AFB, TX. (KSKF).
It is understood the owner has died a year ago (October 22-2011) and the future of the aircraft is uncertain.
" Speculation Mode On " :
Will the aircraft be transferred to the only remaining 747-8/BBJ customer #9 or could this be the opportunity for the USAF to obtain a relative cheap " green " airframe ?
" Speculation Mode Off ".
Aircraft data : L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud (Kingdom Holding Company), test registration N458BJ, registration HZ-HMS1 , white livery, F/F May-30-2012, Acceptance date: June 29-2012, Delivery flight (N458BJ- CYVR-KSBD) date July 9-2012. Stored at San Bernadino. Ferried to Lackland AFB, TX at October 06-2012.
Original the schedule was : A positioning flight to Boeing's Wichita, Kansas Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) facility for installation of the Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin. Thereafter , by the the year-end, the aircraft would have been flown to Hamburg for cabin outfitting by Lufthansa Technik.
Operating a twin over the ocean, you're always one engine failure from a total emergency.