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Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production #10  
User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 39634 times:
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Part 9 is getting longer and longer, so here is part 10. Enjoy.

Here the link to part 9:

Official 747-8 Flight Tracking & Production Part 9 (by wilco737 Jun 27 2012 in Civil Aviation)

Enjoy.

wilco737
  


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User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3213 posts, RR: 9
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 39565 times:

From the previous thread:

Quote:
now D-ABYD to join the fleet. ...and from 13th September add BLR to that list.

wilco737

I'm due to fly BLR-FRA on the 748 next weekend, and was checking the fraport website, it seems like the FRA-BLR is being operated by the same frame D-ABYD both yesterday and today. I was not able to find information from further back - but does LH rotate it's 748s over the 3 destinations, or do they have the same frame do the same destination all week long?



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 39559 times:

Quoting Nimish (Reply 1):
I was not able to find information from further back - but does LH rotate it's 748s over the 3 destinations, or do they have the same frame do the same destination all week long?

The aircraft are rotated , see aircraft histories :
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/d-abya
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/d-abyc
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/d-abyd



Operating a twin over the ocean, you're always one engine failure from a total emergency.
User currently offlineNimish From India, joined Feb 2005, 3213 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 39049 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 2):
he aircraft are rotated , see aircraft histories :

Thanks - very helpful!



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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 38993 times:

Here are the 747s scheduled for delivery in October:
LN1434 (RC001) 30 Oct.
LN1456 (RC025) 23 Oct.
LN1459 (RC006) 31 Oct.
LN1464 (RC560) 24 Oct.

3 747s were delivered in September.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 38946 times:

Do you know if RC601 was delivered?


Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity. And I'm not sure about the universe.
User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 38905 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 5):
Do you know if RC601 was delivered?

No, it's scheduled today for a customer acceptance (C1) flight, delivery :TBD.

Perhaps Boeing and ABC are planning a double delivery, together with L/N1463/RC604, also on the flight line with a delivery date : TBD.

[Edited 2012-10-05 07:31:11]


Operating a twin over the ocean, you're always one engine failure from a total emergency.
User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 38676 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 6):

it's scheduled today for a customer acceptance (C1) flight,
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE601


User currently offlineUnited787 From United States of America, joined May 2005, 2691 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 38655 times:

I apologize, I haven't been following this thread too closely, but... have all of the 748s requiring change incorporation been delivered? Are there more 748s in storage?

User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 38725 times:

Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (Oct-05-2012)
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Updates from previous listing (Sept-08) :
- Firing order : RC525 and RC548 have exchanged their positions.
- Now RC525 will be produced at L/N 1479 and RC548 at L/N 1481, L/N 1487 added.
- Delivered : L/N1461-RC506, L/N 1462-RC579.
- Emerged from Final Assembly Line : L/N 1465-RC507.
- Several new scheduled delivery dates, corrections and additional background info.
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46 Completed airframes , 30 delivered (marked : @ )

L/N 1420 - 747-8R7F, RC501, serial number 35808, F/F Feb-08-2010, test aircraft #1, light Boeing livery, test reg. N747EX, Cargolux reg. LX-VCA (LX-ECV-- NTU), selcal code CK-EQ, ferried June-08-2011 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard. Returned to KPAE at October-02-2012, now with test registration N5020K, Acceptance/Delivery date : TBD.

L/N 1421 - 747-8KZF, RC521, serial number 36136, F/F March-17-2010, test aircraft #2, light Boeing livery, test reg. N5017Q, NCA reg. JA-11KZ , ferried May-29-2012 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard.

L/N 1422 - 747-8KZF, RC522, serial number 36137, F/F March-14-2010, test aircraft #3, light Boeing livery, test reg. N50217, NCA reg. JA-12KZ, ferried Oct-06-2011 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard.

@ L/N 1423 - 747-8R7F, RC502, serial number 35806, F/F Aug-31-2011, full livery, name : City of Esch-sur-Alzette, test registration N5014K, Cargolux reg. LX-VCB (LX-ACV-- NTU), selcal code CK-GQ, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX1JS- KSEA-ELLX) date : October-12-2011.

@ L/N 1424 - 747-8R7F, RC503, serial number 35807, F/F July-22-2010, test aircraft #4, full livery, name : City of Ettelbruck, test reg. N5573S, Cargolux reg. LX-VCC (LX-DCV-- NTU), selcal code CL-KQ, Acceptance and delivery flight (CLX789-KSEA-CYYC-ELLX) date: March-23-2012.

@ L/N 1425 - 747-8HTF, RC541, serial number 37132, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo( #1), full KAL livery, HL7609, selcal code AD-FL , F/F Jan-10-2012, Acceptance date Feb-06-2012, Delivery flight (KAL28D –RKSI/ICN ) date : Feb-07-2012.

@ L/N 1426 - 747-8HTF, RC546, serial number 37133, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo (#2), full KAL livery, test registration N5510E, HL7610, selcal code MQ-FJ, KPAE flight line, F/F Aug 18-2012, Acceptance / Delivery flight (KAL28D-PKSI/ICN) date : Sept 04-2012.

@ L/N 1427 - 747-867F, RC551, serial number 39238, Cathay #1, registration B-LJA, selcal code CR-HM, special Hong Kong Trader livery, F/F November 05-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date: November-15-2011.

@ L/N 1428 - 747-867F, RC552, serial number 39239, Cathay #2, , registration B-LJB, full livery, F/F November-16-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date : November-23-2011.

L/N 1429 - 747-87UF, RC571, serial number 37562, Atlas Air #1 (NTU), painted basic white-dark blue BA colours), stored at KPAE flight line (slow refurbishment in progress??)

L/N 1430 - 747-8HVF, RC601, serial number 37580, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #1, registration VQ-BGZ (Volga Dnepr Group) , selcal code AH-KM, full ABC livery, KPAE flight line, F/F Sept-16-2012, Acceptance/ Delivery flight date : TBD

@ L/N 1431 - 747-8KZF, RC523, serial number 36138, F/F Feb-3-2011, test aircraft #5, NCA #3, test registration N6009F, registration JA13KZ, selcal code FQ-EM, new (adapted) NCA livery, refurbished at Lackland AFB and KPAE, Acceptance date July 25 2012. Delivery flight (NCA696 - RJAA) date : Aug-01-2012. First operational flight NCA108 ( RJAA-KLAX) Aug-13-2012.

L/N 1432 - 747-87UF, RC572, serial number 37563, Atlas Air #2 (NTU), white livery, no engines, stored : Tower Apron KPAE.

L/N 1433 - 747-867F, RC553, serial number 39240, Cathay #3, registration B-LJC, full livery, no engines installed, stored : Tower Apron KPAE, Delivery in 2013 ?

L/N 1434 - 747-8JK, RC001, serial number 38636, 747-8I test aircraft #1, destined for a BBJ customer (State of Kuwait), test registration N6067E, registration 9K-GAA, full red-orange Boeing Sunrise livery, selcal code CQ-AJ, Official first Intercontinental roll-out ceremony happened at February 13, F/F March 20th, -2011. During refurbishment at KPAE all engines were removed for several weeks and again installed, re-painted in full “ State of Kuwait “ livery, KPAE flight line, Scheduled Acceptance /Delivery : October 30-2012.

L/N 1435 - 747-830, RC021, serial number 37826, F/F April-26-2011, 747-8I test aircraft #2, test registration N6067U, Lufthansa #1, selcal code CS-HP, basic LH color scheme, without lettering and LH logo, future LH registration D-ABYE, stored at KPAE, with engines removed, awaiting refurbishment to delivery standard. Scheduled delivery date was September-30-2012 , but postponed till Sept 30-2013?

@ L/N 1436 - 747-8R7F, RC504, serial number 35809, Cargolux #4, full Cargolux livery, name : City of Luxembourg, registration LX-VCD, selcal code AJ-CM, F/F September-02 -2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX789-ELLX) date : October 13-2011.

L/N 1437 - 747-87UF, RC573, serial number 37564, Atlas Air #3 (NTU), white livery with both rudders painted in Atlas livery, stored : Tower Apron KPAE.

L/N 1438 - 747-867F, RC554, serial number 39241, Cathay # 4, full livery, no engines, registration B-LJD, KPAE flight line, Delivery in 2013 ?

@ L/N 1439 - 747-8KB , RC002, serial number 37544, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri Flight , test registration N5022E, registration A7-HHE, white livery, F/F Jan-30-2012, Acceptance date Feb-27-2012, Delivery flight (A7HHE-CYVR-KIAB) date Feb-28-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin has been installed at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas, Ferry flight to Hamburg at Aug- 29-2012, Cabin outfitting at Lufthansa Technik in Hamburg, Germany. Service entry in 2014.

@ L/N 1440 - 747-8Z5 , RC003, serial number 37500, BBJ customer Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight (Presidential Flight Authority) , white livery, 747-8I test aircraft #3, test registration N5020K, future registration A6-PFA, selcal code MR-DQ , F/F June 30-2011, Acceptance date May 24, Delivery flight (A6PFA-KIAB) date May-29-2012, will be stored during summer 2012 at Wichita, thereafter Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) . Cabin outfitting will be completed by Jet Aviation in Basel, Switzerland.

@ L/N 1441 - 747-867F, RC555, serial number 39242, Cathay #5 , test registration N1785B, Cathay registration B-LJE, selcal code BF-CS, full livery, F/F Aug-13-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : October-31-2011

@ L/N 1442 - 747-87UF, RC574, serial number 37561, Atlas Air #4 , full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSD, selcal code HL-ZQ, F/F October-21-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (GSS7478- EGSS) date : November-03-2011

@ L/N 1443 - 747-830, RC022, serial number 37827, Lufthansa #2, test registration N5016R, LH registration D-ABYA, full livery, name : Brandenburg, selcal code BR-DA, F/F Feb-08-2012, Acceptance date April-25-2012, Delivery flight (DLH748 – EDDF) date : May 01 2012. Post delivery maintenance performed at Lufthansa Technik (EDDF). Inaugural flight DLH416 (EDDF-KIAD ) date: June-01-2012.

@ L/N 1444 - 747-87UF, RC575, serial number 37568, Atlas Air #5, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSE, selcal code HM-BQ, F/F November-17-2011, Acceptance date : December-05-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-19-2011.

@ L/N 1445 - 747-87UF, RC576, serial number 37569, Atlas Air #6, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSF, selcal code DK-JQ, F/F December-0 5-2011, Acceptance date : December-15-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-27-2011.

@ L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud (Kingdom Holding Company), test registration N458BJ, registration HZ-HMS1 , white livery, F/F May-30-2012, Acceptance date: June 29-2012, Delivery flight (N458BJ- CYVR-KSBD) date July 9-2012. Stored at San Bernadino . Will be ferried to Boeing's Wichita, Kansas Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) facility for installation of the Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin. Thereafter , by the the year-end, the aircraft will be flown to Hamburg for cabin outfitting by Lufthansa Technik.

@ L/N 1447 - 747-867F, RC556, serial number 39243, Cathay #6 , registration B-LJF, full livery, FAL Roll out date November 2, selcal code DR-EJ, F/F December-01-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : December-12-2011.

@ L/N 1448 - 747-8HVF, RC 602, serial number 37581, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #2, registration VQ-BLQ, selcal code FM-DS, full livery, the last assembled 747-8 aircraft in 2011, F/F December-21-2011, Acceptance date Jan-26-2012. Delivery flight (ABW5011- KORD) date : Feb-03-2012.

@ L/N 1449 - 747-8KB , RC005, serial number 37075, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri flight, leased from Lewiston Investments, A7-HJA , selcal CE-JM, white livery, F/F March-31-2012, Acceptance and Delivery flight (A7HJA-CYVR-KIAB) date April -25-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas. Cabin outfitting will be done by completion center AMAC in Basel, Switzerland.

@ L/N 1450 - 747-867F, RC557, serial number 39244, Cathay #7, future registration B-LJG, full livery, selcal code LM-AJ, F/F February-11-2012, Acceptance date Feb-25-2012, Delivery flight (CPA3335-VHHH) date Feb-27-2012.

@ L/N 1451 - 747-830, RC023, serial number 37828, , Lufthansa #3, full livery, selcal code CR-DP, D-ABYC, F/F June-07-2012, Acceptance date June-30-2012, Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date July-01-2012, PDM by LH Technik at EDDF. First operational Flight DLH418 (EDDF-KIAD) July 25-2012.

@ L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, , AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #3, full livery, test reg. N1788B, registration VQ-BLR, selcal code DK-FS, F/F March-16-2012, Acceptance date : March-30-2012, Delivery flight (ABW4011-KORD) date : April 04-2012.

@ L/N 1453 - 747-830, RC024, serial number 37829, Lufthansa #4 , D-ABYD, full livery, KPAE flight line, F/F Aug 01-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date Aug-24-2012, PDM by LH technik, First operational flight DLH754 (EDDF-VOBL) September 13-2012.

@ L/N 1454 -747-8R7F, RC505, serial number 35810, Cargolux #5, full livery, name : City of Echternach, registration LX-VCE, selcal AM-JP, F/F May 05 -2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CLX773-KSEA-KLAX-ELLX) date May 24-2012.

@ L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, serial number 37570, Atlas Air #7, full Panalpina livery, name: Spirit of Panalpina, registration N850GT, selcal code CM-GJ, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, F/F May-15-2012, Acceptance and delivery flight (GTI609-VHHH) date : May-31-2012.

L/N 1456 - 747-830, RC025, serial number 37830, Lufthansa #5, D-ABYF, full livery, KPAE flight line, F/F Sept-28-2012, Scheduled Acceptance/Delivery date October-23-2012.

@ L/N 1457 - 747-867F, RC558, serial number 39245, Cathay #8, full livery, test registration N6018N, registration B-LJH, F/F June -14-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CPA3337- CYVR)date : July 13 2012.

@ L/N 1458 - 747-87UF, RC578, serial number 37565, Atlas Air #8, Full Panalpina livery, name : Passion for Solutions, registration N851GT, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, F/F July 12-2012, Acceptance date July 24, Delivery flight (KHSV-GTI9037)date July 25-2012.

L/N 1459 - 747-8LQ , RC006, serial number 41060, (unknown)BBJ customer , named : 521 in Boeing documents, test registration N455BJ, white livery, KPAE flight line, F/F expected in first week of October, Scheduled Acceptance/Delivery date : October 31-2012.

@ L/N 1460 - 747-867F, RC559, serial number 39247, Cathay #9, future registration B-LJI, full livery, KPAE Flight line, F/F Aug-20-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CPA3335 - CYVR) date Aug-30-2012.

@ L/N 1461 - 747-8R7F, RC506, serial number 35811, Cargolux #6, registration LX-VCF, full livery, name : City of Grevenmacher, F/F Aug 30-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CLX789-KSEA-ELLX )date Sept 12-2012.

@ L/N 1462 - 747-87UF, RC579, serial number 37571, Atlas Air #9, registration N852GT, full Atlas livery, KPAE flight line, FAL roll-out Aug 07-2012, F/F September 14-2012, Acceptance date Sept-30-2012 /Delivery flight (GT9812-KCVG) date October- 02-2012.

L/N1463 - 747-8HVF, RC604, serial number 37669, Air Bridge Cargo Airlines (ABC) #4 , VQ-BRH, unpainted with white rudders, KPAE flight line, expected delivery : TBD

L/N1464 - 747-867F, RC560, serial number 39246, Cathay 10, future registration B-LJJ, roll-out date Sept. 5, KPAE flight line, Acceptance/Delivery date : October 24-1012.

L/N1465 - 747-8R7F, RC507, serial number 35812, Cargolux #7, registration LX-VCG, KPAE flight line, Scheduled Acceptance/Delivery date : November 15-2012.

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At this moment : 4 Airframes at the Final Assembly Line (FAL) at Everett Building 40-22

L/N 1466 - 747-8**/BBJ, RC007 , slant position #1, scheduled FAL roll-out and roll into the 40-23 (next door) on October 7. On October 9 it’s scheduled to roll out to the flight line.
L/N 1467 - 747-87UF, RC580, serial number 37572, Atlas Air #10, N853GT, slant position #2.
L/N 1468 - 747-8**/BBJ, RC008, body join position
L/N 1469 - 747-8KZF, RC524, serial number 37394, NCA#4, registration JA14KZ, wing join position.

Airframes (18), scheduled for Final Assembly (Subject to change).
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L/N 1470 - 747-830, RC026, serial number 37831, Lufthansa #6, D-ABYG, scheduled delivery *Jan 31 2013
L/N 1471 - 747-87UF, RC581, Atlas Air #11
L/N 1472 - 747-830, RC027, serial number 37832, Lufthansa #7, D-ABYH, scheduled delivery* Feb 28 2013
L/N 1473 - 747-8R7F, RC508, serial number 35821, Cargolux #8, registration LX-VCH
L/N 1474 - 747-8B5F, RC547, serial number 37654, KAL#3, HL7617
L/N 1475 - 747-830, RC028, serial number 37833, Lufthansa #8, D-ABYI, scheduled delivery*April 30 2013
L/N 1476 - 747-87UF, RC582, Atlas Air #12
L/N 1477 - 747-830, RC029, serial number 37834, Lufthansa #9, D-ABYJ, scheduled delivery* June 30 2013
L/N 1478 - 747-8R7F, RC509, serial number 35822, Cargolux #9, registration LX-VCI
L/N 1479 - 747-8KZF, RC525, serial number 36139, NCA #5, registration JA15KZ
L/N 1480 - 747-830, RC030, serial number 37835, Lufthansa #10, D-ABYK, scheduled delivery* July 31 2013
L/N 1481 - 747-8B5F, RC548, serial number 37655, KAL #4
L/N 1482 - 747-8HVF, RC605, Air Bridge Cargo( ABC) #5
L/N 1483 - 747-8FTF***, RC631, Air China Cargo #1 (CGC )
L/N 1484 - 747-8FTF***, RC632, Air China Cargo #2 (CGC)
L/N 1485 - 747-8KZF, RC526, NCA #6, registration JA16KZ
L/N 1486 - 747-8FTF***, RC633, Air China Cargo #3 (CGC)
L/N 1487 - 747-8KZF, RC527, NCA #7, registration JA17KZ

? = Not confirmed
*= Only one (1) source : http://lh-taufnamen.de/lufthansa
**= Boeing Customer code not known.
***=Boeing internal airline code CGC = Air China Cargo . However no “not identified “ customer is added to the Boeing order list. Aircraft are probably leased from a still unknown lessor (GECAS, DAE ??) seen the fact that a direct order (or a changed order from the 747-8I to -8F) must have been reported to the HK stock exchange. The Boeing customer code could be -FT (Air China Cargo) or the customer code of the lessor.

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Any comments and/or additions are highly appreciated.

[Edited 2012-10-05 13:40:55]


Operating a twin over the ocean, you're always one engine failure from a total emergency.
User currently offlinemffoda From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1056 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 38541 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 9):
46 Completed airframes , 30 delivered

Is that 30 delivered this year? Thx...



harder than woodpecker lips...
User currently onlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 38522 times:

What's the deal with line numbers 1433 (RC553 in 747classic's list) and 1438 (RC554) for Cathay Pacific? They've already taken delivery of two earlier frames by line number and several later examples as well. I would imagine that they weren't delivered out of the box for the same reason that the three Atlas NTUs haven't been (apparently,) that they don't perform as well as later builds, but plenty of "early" frames are now delivered and in service. Is it just a case of Boeing prioritizing other refurbishments and deliveries over these?

User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30577 posts, RR: 84
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 38495 times:
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I believe CX Cargo has deferred some deliveries due to the weak cargo market - these may be those deliveries.

User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 38416 times:

Quoting United787 (Reply 8):
have all of the 748s requiring change incorporation been delivered? Are there more 748s in storage?

Not "storage," but there are two airplanes at KSKF: LN 1421 (RC521) & 1422 (RC522).


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 38412 times:

Quoting mffoda (Reply 10):
Is that 30 delivered this year? Thx...

30 in total. 20 have been delivered so far in 2012.

[Edited 2012-10-05 17:51:25]

User currently offlineflightsimer From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 540 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 38366 times:

We are quickly approaching the 50% mark on 747-8 production. Hopefully we will see some more orders or even just firming of previously announced orders by years end.

I know we are supposed to be somewhere around 1.5-2 frames a month, but at what frequency are position changes occurring?



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User currently offlinejuanchito From Guatemala, joined Nov 2000, 1168 posts, RR: 10
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 38305 times:

On this photo there is a livery of a 747-8I that I don't know from what airline is it
In the picture the aircraft is left from a white 747-8I.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvo...8052512475/sizes/o/in/photostream/

Juanchito



Chapin de corazon.
User currently onlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3388 posts, RR: 26
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 38233 times:
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I think you're looking at the Kuwaiti Government plane

User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2735 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 38206 times:

Quoting juanchito (Reply 16):
On this photo there is a livery of a 747-8I that I don't know from what airline is it
In the picture the aircraft is left from a white 747-8I.
Quoting kanban (Reply 17):
I think you're looking at the Kuwaiti Government plane

Correct. Not only is it the Government of Kuwait's BBJ, but it's also RC001 - the first Intercontinental produced.


Regards,

Hamlet69



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 38173 times:

Here is a video by Matt Cawby of the landing of RC601/VQ-BGZ after the C1 flight.(KPAE, October 5-2012)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=ZvzDj4n7qeo



Operating a twin over the ocean, you're always one engine failure from a total emergency.
User currently offlinejuanchito From Guatemala, joined Nov 2000, 1168 posts, RR: 10
Reply 20, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 37981 times:

Quoting kanban (Reply 17):

Thanks for de information.

Juanchito



Chapin de corazon.
User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 21, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 37727 times:

N458BJ (HZ-HMS1) B747-8JA BBJ Prince Sultan Bin Abdulaziz has been flown from San Bernadino, CA (KSBD) to Lackland AFB, TX. (KSKF).
It is understood the owner has died a year ago (October 22-2011) and the future of the aircraft is uncertain.

See : http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....j-hz-hms1-b747-8ja-bbj-prince.html

" Speculation Mode On " :
Will the aircraft be transferred to the only remaining 747-8/BBJ customer #9 or could this be the opportunity for the USAF to obtain a relative cheap " green " airframe ?
" Speculation Mode Off ".


Aircraft data : L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud (Kingdom Holding Company), test registration N458BJ, registration HZ-HMS1 , white livery, F/F May-30-2012, Acceptance date: June 29-2012, Delivery flight (N458BJ- CYVR-KSBD) date July 9-2012. Stored at San Bernadino. Ferried to Lackland AFB, TX at October 06-2012.

Original the schedule was : A positioning flight to Boeing's Wichita, Kansas Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) facility for installation of the Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin. Thereafter , by the the year-end, the aircraft would have been flown to Hamburg for cabin outfitting by Lufthansa Technik.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7210 posts, RR: 17
Reply 22, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 37715 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 4):
LN1434 (RC001) 30 Oct.

Just to make sure, I've seen a bunch of numbers thrown around, is the Kuwait government plane?



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 23, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 37355 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 21):
N458BJ (HZ-HMS1) B747-8JA BBJ Prince Sultan Bin Abdulaziz has been flown from San Bernadino, CA (KSBD) to Lackland AFB, TX. (KSKF).

Here are some photos of N458BJ landing at Lackland AFB and parking at the San Antonio Boeing facility.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7957383...72157631708984819/with/8061432693/



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 24, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 37328 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 22):
Just to make sure, I've seen a bunch of numbers thrown around, is the Kuwait government plane?

Correct.



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 25, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 37048 times:

RC025/D-ABYF made a functional check flight yesterday after a GEnx-2B engine change on Monday, see :
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...5/history/20121010/1700Z/KPAE/KPAE
And : http://paineairport.com/kpae5465.htm

D-ABYF is expected to be delivered to Lufthansa at October 23 . It will be the 4th 747-830 delivered to Lufthansa.

The delivery date of the first assembled 747-830, the second 747-8I test aircraft (RC021/D-ABYE) , original scheduled also to be delivered in 2012, has been slipped to 2013.

The present Lufthansa 747-8I fleet (only three aircraft) archieved a near-perfect dispatch reliability, see :
http://www.aviationweek.com/Article....l/avd_10_11_2012_p03-03-505148.xml

[Edited 2012-10-11 00:46:32]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 26, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 36809 times:

New Boeing 747-8F joins Polar Air Cargo Worldwide's express network

http://www.transportintelligence.com...o-worldwides-express-network/9375/

This one must be L/N 1462 (RC579 / N852GT). I wonder if they have it repainted?



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 27, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 37132 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 26):
This one must be L/N 1462 (RC579 / N852GT). I wonder if they have it repainted?

N852GT has been operated since the delivery flight with a PAC call-sign (Polar Air Cargo), see :
http://www.flightradar24.com/data/airplanes/n852gt
Following info is available at the official Atlas site : http://www.atlasair.com/holdings/news-events.asp?Pressid=595

AFAIK the aircraft is still painted in Atlas Air livery .
Latest available picture at date October 6 in Honkong (Chep Lak Kok)

Original uploaded by flyboy104, for other sizes see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/54865173@N07/8060862035/

I doubt that it will be repainted, until the first HMV( or if a new longterm lease contract emerges for a demanding external customer, requiring a new livery)

Here is the following info about the Atlas Air ownership construction :

Polar and Atlas Air, along with Titan Aircraft Leasing, are all owned and controlled by AAWW (Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings). DHL owns 49% of Polar.
Polar is just an operating certificate with certain routes. Polar has a DO and a Chief Pilot and planes that are painted in Polar colours...that is all.

The CEO/COO/VP Flight Ops/DO/Check Airman/Captains/FIrst Officers that operate the Polar and Atlas airplanes are all Atlas employees. All of the pilots that were formerly Polar or Atlas pilots are all on one seniority list and are all now Atlas pilots.
The first two -8Fs that are operated by Atlas crews are painted in Panalpina colours (Atlas already has three -8Fs that are flown by GSS (Atlas owns 49% of them and BA 51%).

Any future aircraft will be ordered by AAWW and allocated to whichever company (Polar, Atlas, GSS, Titan) that AAWW wants them to go to.

Reserved by Atlas is the following N-registration block for the future 747-8F fleet : N850GT till/incl. N876GT
See the entry for the N854GT in the FAA data base : http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...Num_Results.aspx?NNumbertxt=N854GT

[Edited 2012-10-11 10:36:47]


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User currently offlineRonaldo747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 28, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 37096 times:

Still think about the first three Atlas-NTU's, despite performance issues they could easily do their jobs as packages freighters for Polar/DHL as mtow limitations should not be the factor on that operations. I just hope the aircraft get their new home as soon as possible.

User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 29, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 36987 times:

Quoting Ronaldo747 (Reply 28):
I just hope the aircraft get their new home as soon as possible.

I hope so too, but as of today the firing order still shows LN 1429, 1432, and 1437 in limbo (assigned to Atlas, but we know they are not going there). 1429 is parked west of the paint hangars (in stall 120), and the other two are parked on the control tower ramp.


User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 30, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 36781 times:

The next 747-8I/BBJ with L/N 1466 emerged at the flight line from building 40-23. The still unpainted aircraft was rolled-out from the FAL at October 07 and is seen here behind a LOT 787.

KPAE, RC007, serial number ---------, October 11, 2012

Original uploaded by Moonm, for other sizes see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/8079005510/in/photostream

Any additional info (MSN, customer code, customer name, etc.) about this still unknown aircraft will be highly appreciated.



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User currently offlineearlyNFF From Germany, joined Sep 2007, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 31, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 36308 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 25):
The delivery date of the first assembled 747-830, the second 747-8I test aircraft (RC021/D-ABYE) , original scheduled also to be delivered in 2012, has been slipped to 2013.

according to this website: lh-taufnamen.de postponed until 2015. (would like to know a source!)

4
D-ABYE
B747-830
1435
2015
Boeing-Testflugzeug, Auslieferung auf 2015 verschoben


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 32, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 36276 times:

Hm, interesting. First it was September 2013 and now 2015...


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 33, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 36082 times:

L/N 1464 RC560 (Cathay Pacific) just did a taxi test.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/8087169339/in/photostream

[Edited 2012-10-14 11:35:57]


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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 34, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 35563 times:

The third 747-8F test aircraft made a first test flight AFTER refurbishment at Lackland AFB.

See : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...2/history/20121015/2130Z/KSKF/KSKF
And : http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....47-8kzf-nippon-cargo-airlines.html

Full aircraft data : L/N 1422 - 747-8KZF, RC522, serial number 36137, F/F March-14-2010, test aircraft #3, light Boeing livery, test reg. N50217, NCA reg. JA-12KZ, ferried Oct-06-2011 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to ------delivery standard.

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Here is the first "stand alone " picture of RC006 a BBJ.

See : http://paineairport.com/kpae5489.htm

Aircraft data : L/N 1459 - 747-8LQ , RC006, serial number 41060, (unknown)BBJ customer , named : 521 in Boeing documents, test registration N455BJ, white livery, KPAE flight line, Scheduled Acceptance/Delivery date : October 31-2012.

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Second taxi test for RC560 today, second time filed flightplan for a B1 flight was cancelled .

See : http://paineairport.com/kpae5490.htm

Aircraft data : L/N1464 - 747-867F, RC560, serial number 39246, Cathay 10, future registration B-LJJ, full livery, KPAE flight line, roll-out date Sept. 5, Acceptance/Delivery date : October 24-1012 ??

[Edited 2012-10-15 22:33:19]


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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 35, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 35198 times:

RC507/LX-VCG just airborne from Paine Field toward Moses Lake for a first (B1) flight , with call sign BOE507 :
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...7/history/20121016/1930Z/KPAE/KMWH

Aircraft data : L/N1465 - 747-8R7F, RC507, serial number 35812, Cargolux #7, registration LX-VCG, F/F October 16-2012, Scheduled Acceptance/Delivery date : November 15-2012.



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 36, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 34932 times:

Two 747-8F's first flights on the same day !

After two attempts on the previous days RC560/B-LJJ also performed a first (B1) flight at October 16, call sign was BOE560 :
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...0/history/20121016/2200Z/KPAE/KMWH

For landing video : http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rtpiE9Qj8iE&feature=player_embedded

Aircraft data : L/N1464 - 747-867F, RC560, serial number 39246, Cathay 10, future registration B-LJJ, full livery, roll-out date Sept. 5, F/F October 16-2012, Scheduled Acceptance/Delivery date : October 24-2012 ??

Matt Cawby's KPAE blog showed also a picture of Cargolux RC507/LX-VCG, stiill unpainted, returning from the B1 flight :

http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/8096135269/in/photostream

[Edited 2012-10-16 23:31:49]


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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 37, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 34509 times:

The sixth 747-8I/BBJ for a still unknown customer just airborne from Paine Field for a first (B1) flight with call sign BOE006 :
http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....5bj-b747-8lq-bbj-first-flight.html
and :
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...6/history/20121018/1700Z/KPAE/KMWH

Aircraft data : L/N 1459 - 747-8LQ , RC006, serial number 41060, (unknown)BBJ customer , named : 521 in Boeing documents, test registration N455BJ, white livery, F/F October 18-2012, Scheduled Acceptance/Delivery date : October 31-2012.

[Edited 2012-10-18 13:01:51]


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User currently onlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2729 posts, RR: 2
Reply 38, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 34394 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 37):
BOE006

And here is the contrail of Boeing 006 hundreds of miles south of Paine Field down near Albany, Oregon. Saw it leaving college.   




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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 39, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 33785 times:

RC001/9K-GAA performed the first test flight after refurbishment (to delivery standard from the test aircraft configuration) at October 21 from Paine Field. Call sign was BOE001.

See : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...1/history/20121021/1815Z/KPAE/KMWH
And : http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....-cn-38636-b747-8jk-bbj-9k-gaa.html

9K-GAA, landing at Paine field (KPAE) after the return flight from Moses Lake (KMWH), October 21 2012

Original uploaded by royalscottking, for other sizes see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/royalscottking/8110420489/

[Edited 2012-10-22 00:09:56]


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User currently offlineseahawks7757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 40, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 33815 times:

I have been up in Anchorage the last couple of days, it is 747-8F heaven up there right now! Daily arrivals from CX and KE. Cargolux every other day and apparently Atlas keeps poping up in there.

Here is one shot that I got-


User currently offlineSSTeve From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 695 posts, RR: 1
Reply 41, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 33468 times:

^ is that two in one shot?

User currently offlineseahawks7757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 42, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 33333 times:

Yes, yes it is! But was told that it would be rejected for off center even though I am trying to show the two :/

User currently offlinepetera380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 346 posts, RR: 0
Reply 43, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 33249 times:
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Can you tell me from where that shot was taken? I've never found a good location at Anchorage. Great shot BTW. Thanks.

User currently offlineseahawks7757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 160 posts, RR: 0
Reply 44, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 33243 times:

There are tons of great spots at PANC. This one is down a side road that runs along the perimeter road. Point Woronzof Road.

User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 45, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 32908 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 34):
The third 747-8F test aircraft made a first test flight AFTER refurbishment at Lackland AFB.

After one more test flight at October 22, RC522 is now heading for Victorville (VCV),

see : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...2/history/20121023/1630Z/KSKF/KVCV



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 46, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 32882 times:

D-ABYF delivery flight

http://nl.flightaware.com/live/fligh...5/history/20121023/2100Z/KPAE/EDDF



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User currently online4holer From United States of America, joined Feb 2002, 2997 posts, RR: 9
Reply 47, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 32878 times:

What's this guy doing?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE522
Edit: Oops! Now I see the answer has already been posted. It'll fly right over me in about a half hour!



[Edited 2012-10-23 10:56:57]


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User currently offlinepetera380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 346 posts, RR: 0
Reply 48, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 32782 times:
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Quoting seahawks7757 (Reply 44):
This one is down a side road that runs along the perimeter road. Point Woronzof Road.



Thanks, I saw this road but wasn't sure if you were allowed to drive down it?


User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 49, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 32614 times:

RC501 / N747EX / LX-VCA, the first assembled 747-8F, has been flown from Paine Field towards Portland (KPDX) to be painted from the Boeing "light" livery into the Cargolux livery, see :

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...1/history/20121023/2030Z/KPAE/KPDX



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 50, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 22 hours ago) and read 32312 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 45):
After one more test flight at October 22, RC522 is now heading for Victorville (VCV),

see : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...2/history/20121023/1630Z/KSKF/KVCV

RC501 flew directly to PAE but what is RC522 doing in Victorville?



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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 51, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 21 hours ago) and read 32281 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 49):
RC501 / N747EX / LX-VCA, the first assembled 747-8F, has been flown from Paine Field towards Portland (KPDX) to be painted from the Boeing "light" livery into the Cargolux livery

RC501 will be at KPDX for about 3 weeks for stripping and repainting. Then it's back to KPAE sometime around 9 November for refurb.

RC560's delivery has been slid a day. Handover to Cathay Pacific should be on 26 October.

RC001 and RC006 should also be delivered before the end of the month.


User currently offlinemilestones787 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 68 posts, RR: 0
Reply 52, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 13 hours ago) and read 32212 times:

How much more refurb will RC501 need after coming back from PDX? I had assumed that all the refurb work would have been done in San Antonio and that it would be ready for delivery after being painted.

User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 53, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 hours ago) and read 32018 times:

Quoting milestones787 (Reply 52):
How much more refurb will RC501 need after coming back from PDX? I had assumed that all the refurb work would have been done in San Antonio and that it would be ready for delivery after being painted.

There are some engine fixes that need to be incorporated, and a few structural issues the customer wants Boeing to look into. Nothing major.

[Edited 2012-10-25 06:44:16]

User currently onlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 54, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 32006 times:

Hey folks, the 747-8i thread currently active elsewhere in Civ-Av briefly went on a tangent about unsold 747s and I posted this:

Quote:
The two last build 747-400ERFs were white tails but one has now been placed with Kalitta Air in the United States; the other remains stored AFAIK. Then there are the three Atlas Air early-build underperforming 747-8Fs. But as far as I know those are all the unsold "white tail" 747s Boeing has right now (someone correct me if I'm wrong.) There may be some others off-lease from a previous operator but that's not really the same thing I don't think.

After that the tangent ended. So I just want to make sure if I have my facts right and this thread seems as if it would know. Thanks!


User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 55, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 31974 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 53):
How much more refurb will RC501 need after coming back from PDX? I had assumed that all the refurb work would have been done in San Antonio and that it would be ready for delivery after being painted.
There are some engine fixes that need to be incorporated, and a few structural issues the customer wants Boeing to look into. Nothing major

Are all presently delivered, but early produced airframes also capable to operate at the higher structural weights, that are standard in all aircraft delivered after April 2012 ?
AFAIK LX-VCE is one of the first aircraft delivered from Boeing with the improved operational weights (increase in the maximum takeoff weight by 6 tonnes to 448 tonnes.)
Are these " structural issues " perhaps part of a structural modification for operation at higher weights on the early produced airframes ?

[Edited 2012-10-25 07:36:45]


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User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1505 posts, RR: 8
Reply 56, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 31960 times:

Are you talking about LN1416 (RL571) and 1419 (RL572 the last -400) which were originally headed for LoadAir Cargo of Kuwait? According to this article they were delivered so they wouldn't be classified as white tails any more but I don't believe they were ever put into service with LoadAir.

http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...vers-last-of-original-747s-336510/

I guess you could call them "bastards" as I believe they both had some new avionics that were going to be used on the -8.


User currently onlineNewark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 57, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 31881 times:

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 56):
Are you talking about LN1416 (RL571) and 1419 (RL572 the last -400) which were originally headed for LoadAir Cargo of Kuwait?

Yep, those. Don't think they ever entered service with the original intended operator, I do know that l/n 1419 is now N782CK with Kalitta.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 58, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 31790 times:

There is a nice picture of RC571 in the database which clearly shows Boeing is busy with refurbishing the bird:



Copyright Alevik, click for a bigger picture: http://www.airliners.net/photo/Boeing-747-87UF-SCD/2176191/L/



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 59, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 31707 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 58):
There is a nice picture of RC571 in the database which clearly shows Boeing is busy with refurbishing the bird:

Did you look at the date of this photo ? Aug 26???
This very slow outdoor refurbishment of RC571 was discussed in thread #9 (reply 121 and further) and since then not much progress has been observed, with the bad weather time approaching in the Seattle area.
See Matt Cawby's latest flight-line picture of October 24 : http://paineairport.com/images/fl102412.jpg



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 60, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 31571 times:

When observing the picture of RC006 below in detail, you also can see the latest arrival from the FAL.
Just behind the tail of the RH Qatar 787 an unpainted 747-8F with dark blue rudders is (barely) visible.
This must be :
L/N 1467 - 747-87UF, RC580, serial number 37572, Atlas Air #10, N853GT, unpainted with dark blue rudders.

RC006/N455BJ, returning at KPAE after a second testflight, October 25.

Original uploaded by kpaekilo1, see for other sizes : http://www.flickr.com/photos/38619847@N05/8123972096/in/photostream

RC006 is believed, according some rumours (not confirmed yet), to be delivered to the Bahrain Government.
Full aircraft details :
L/N 1459 - 747-8LQ , RC006, serial number 41060, BBJ customer : Bahrain Government ??, test registration N455BJ, registration A9C-???, white livery, F/F October 18-2012, Scheduled Acceptance/Delivery date : October 31-2012.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7210 posts, RR: 17
Reply 61, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 31528 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 60):

RC006 is believed, according some rumours (not confirmed yet), to be delivered to the Bahrain Government.
Full aircraft details :
L/N 1459 - 747-8LQ

I know Boeing did away with customer codes, but they still have the lists available on the internet. It appears as though LQ has not been assigned, so one can only guess. Has Bahrain's government/kingdom taken any Boeing aircraft in the past?



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 62, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 31472 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 61):
I know Boeing did away with customer codes

This is only valid at the moment for the 787 series. All other Boeing aircraft that are delivered at the moment have still assigned Boeing customer codes (incl. the 747-8 series)

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 61):
Has Bahrain's government/kingdom taken any Boeing aircraft in the past?

Yes, most of them were obtained second hand, one was purchased direct from Boeing.
Since 1981 the official name is : Bahrain Royal Flight.
see : http://www.planespotters.net/Airline/Bahrain-Royal-Flight

Secondhand :
A9C-BA---------727-2M7adv--------original delivered to Hughes AirWest as N740RW
A9C-HHH------747SP-21------------original delivered to PanAm, purchased from Brunei Government
A9C-HAK------747SP-Z5------------ex. Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight
A9C-HMH------767-4SF(ER)-------first airframe for the cancelled USAF E-10A platform.

Purchased New :
A9C-HMK-----747-8P8

[Edited 2012-10-26 01:27:46]


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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 63, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 31304 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 59):
This very slow outdoor refurbishment of RC571 was discussed in thread #9 (reply 121 and further) and since then not much progress has been observed, with the bad weather time approaching in the Seattle area.

There is still no buyer for the aircraft, so the refurb effort has slipped to low priority.


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 64, posted (1 year 9 months 6 days ago) and read 31280 times:

LN 1464 (RC560) for Cathay Pacific is scheduled to be delivered this morning and flown away in the afternoon. A flight plan has been filed:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CPA3335


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7210 posts, RR: 17
Reply 65, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 31199 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 62):
A9C-HMK-----747-8P8

I see, thanks for the info 747classic!

Here's what I see- if that aircraft is only rumored to be delivered to the Bahrain government, and it's not -8P8, we can say it's probably not going to the government itself....but either way we can probably say it's going somewhere or to someone who has a looooot of oil to sell to the USA    When it's delivered on the 31st, will we know who its customer is going to be? Are they going to announce that?



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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 66, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 31122 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 65):
When it's delivered on the 31st, will we know who its customer is going to be? Are they going to announce that?

No and no. Boeing never announces customers who wish to remain anonymous. It's up to the customer to reveal himself.


User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 67, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 31029 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 62):
A9C-HMK-----747-8P8

Sorry, my typo : A9C-HMK is a 747-4P8 and not a 747-8P8, see picture below


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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 68, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 30858 times:

The last produced Cathay 747-8 freighter from the 10 aircraft order was delivered and flown to Hongkong at October 26-2012. This was delivery #8 to Cathay and the 32th delivered 747-8 aircraft

See departure video of RC560/B-LJJ : http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=DIf8wyyL3_U

Two earlier produced Cathay Pacific Cargo 747-8 freighters , B-LJC and B-LJD, will be delivered in 2013



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User currently offlineHAWK21M From India, joined Jan 2001, 31667 posts, RR: 56
Reply 69, posted (1 year 9 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 30829 times:

Amazingly noticable apart from the raked wingtips is the obvious noise reduction on the B748s.....


Think of the brighter side!
User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 70, posted (1 year 9 months 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 30505 times:

Nippon Cargo Airlines 747-8F introduction scheme ?

NCA was one of the launching customers with a total order of 14 aircraft, placed in 2005(8) and 2007(6) . But at that time the sky was still the limit in the Cargo business.
The economic stand-still in Japan and later the world-wide recession(s), put a heavy burden on NCA, despite the collapse of JAL (Cargo), so extra NCA line number positions were not assigned, after the first three NCA (test )aircraft RC521,522 and 523 were assembled.

With RC522 departing for Victorville for short/long term storage ????????, I was wondering if the latest NCA 747-8F fleet introduction plans are available on the WW.web.
So, I did some research to reveal their (revised) plans. I found some updated (April-27-2012) info about the fleet planning in the published NCA Medium Term Business Plan on the NCA site, called " NCA Phoenix Rising ", see :
http://www.nca.aero/e/profile/plan/documents/PRP_E.pdf

In this document the 747-8F introduction schedule for this year and the next two years are listed.
NCA Fleet Planning (April 27-2012)


Conclusion : a slow 747-8F introduction, two in 2012, three in 2013 and three in 2014.
The main drive is replacement of 744F aircraft, with only a modest fleet increase.

But how does this compare with the presently known 747-8 aircraft firing order (provisional and can be changed at any moment) . All estimated FAL roll-out date calculations are made with the existing assembly rate of 2/month.

- L/N 1431 - RC523 - JA13KZ - Delivery flight Aug 01-2012
- L/N 1422 - RC522 - JA12KZ - VCV storage or delivery 2012
- L/N 1469 - RC524 - JA14KZ - FAL roll out Nov 2012, Delivery 2012 or 2013
- L/N 1479 - RC525 - JA15KZ - FAL roll out July 2013, delivery 2013
- L/N 1485 - RC526 - JA16KZ - FAL roll out October 2013, delivery 2013
- L/N 1421 - RC521 - JA11KZ - will return in 2013 from Lackland AFB after refurb., storage or delivery 2013
- L/N 1487 - RC527 - JA17KZ - FAL roll out November 2013, delivery 2014?

Conclusion : the aircraft assembly rate will have to be reduced to 1.5/month or some changes to the firing-order (hopefully with additional freighter orders) will have to be made to keep the NCA 747-8 assembly in line with the current NCA 747-8F introduction planning.
Also possible is a temporally storage of the early frames RC521 and 522, until the cargo market recovers.

Peter.



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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 71, posted (1 year 9 months 3 days ago) and read 30093 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 70):
Conclusion : the aircraft assembly rate will have to be reduced to 1.5/month or some changes to the firing-order (hopefully with additional freighter orders) will have to be made to keep the NCA 747-8 assembly in line with the current NCA 747-8F introduction planning.

Nice analysis, Peter. Aboulafia should put you on his payroll.


User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30577 posts, RR: 84
Reply 72, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 30072 times:
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Quoting 747classic (Reply 70):
Conclusion : the aircraft assembly rate will have to be reduced to 1.5/month...

Boeing completed the ramp to two per month back in June, so I would not expect them to roll that back.


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 73, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 30065 times:

Delivery of RC001 to government of Kuwait rolled back a few days to work some customer squawks. New delivery date is 2 November.

User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 74, posted (1 year 9 months 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 29832 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 72):
Boeing completed the ramp to two per month back in June, so I would not expect them to roll that back.

I am (sadly) not alone with my doubts about sustaining the rate at 2/month, if no new 747-8 orders emerge this or next year.

In a Flightglobal article about the 787 delivery slots, Ray Conner, president of Boeing Commercial Aircraft, is reviewing plans to ramp up to two 747-8 deliveries per month, and taking a less strident approach than his predecessor on speeding up delivery rates. "The cargo market has flattened," he said.

See : http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...ivery-slots-to-reduce-risk-376520/

[Edited 2012-10-30 00:45:48]


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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 75, posted (1 year 9 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 29577 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 74):
"The cargo market has flattened," he said.

Sad but true. Demand for large freighters is down. However, Av Week reports today of an uptick in demand for 737 freighter conversions. It's all about the fuel.


User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 76, posted (1 year 9 months 6 hours ago) and read 29274 times:

At the National Business Aviation Association (NBAA) 2012 convention Boeing revealed that the first free assembly slot for a " green " 747-8/BBJ (or another 747-8 variant) is October 2013.



See Jon Ostrower at twitter : http://twitter.com/jonostrower/status/263247578890661889/photo/1



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User currently offlineLutfi From China, joined Sep 2000, 766 posts, RR: 0
Reply 77, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 29221 times:

Wow. The fact they have a free slot only 12 months away is telling. Whats the lead time (i.e. is that an aircraft already in build) I seem to recall it is 9 months, so probably not

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 78, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 28948 times:

LOL @ http://kpae.blogspot.nl/2012/11/paine-field-november-1.html

Quote:

- 747-8F line 1437 was moved from the tower apron to stall 120 this afternoon.
- Damn, wrong airplane. Back to the tower.
- Line 1432 was moved from the tower apron to stall 120.

:D

RC572 is now install 120 (for refurbishment?).

[Edited 2012-11-02 01:00:25]


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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 79, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 28709 times:

RC006 spent a few extra days in a paint hangar (reason unknown), but now it appears she is ready to leave KPAE on her delivery flight today:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N455BJ


User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 80, posted (1 year 8 months 4 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 28654 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 79):
RC006 spent a few extra days in a paint hangar (reason unknown), but now it appears she is ready to leave KPAE on her delivery flight today:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/N455BJ

The aircraft is scheduled to operate via Vancouver (CYVR) for customs clearing and will proceed via Forth Worth Alliance (KAFW) towards Waco (KNCW).
In Waco,TX the VVIP cabin-interior will be installed by L3 Platform Integration.
Two (Feb 7 2011 and July 9 2012) VVIP 747-8 completion contracts are awarded by L3 platform Integration, see
http://www2.l-3com.com/is/releases/0...VVIPAircraftCompletionContract.pdf
http://www2.l-3com.com/is/releases/0...rogramforHead-of-StateCustomer.pdf



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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 81, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 28251 times:

RC001 (for the state of Kuwait) on her delivery flight today:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/KAC8043

After a short stop in Vancouver to clear customs (and pick up a few boxes of Rogers' chocolates--the best chocolate in British Columbia), it's off to KMCI to see the Oklahoma State/Kansas State game.

[Edited 2012-11-03 10:23:54]

[Edited 2012-11-03 10:24:32]

User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1505 posts, RR: 8
Reply 82, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 28074 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 80):
The aircraft is scheduled to operate via Vancouver (CYVR) for customs clearing and will proceed via Forth Worth Alliance (KAFW) towards Waco (KNCW).
In Waco,TX the VVIP cabin-interior will be installed by L3 Platform Integration.
Two (Feb 7 2011 and July 9 2012) VVIP 747-8 completion contracts are awarded by L3 platform Integration, see

A few years back it looked like L-3 was giving up on VIP interiors, they had delivered all their 737 BBJ contracts and the 777 they modified was done--nice to see them back.  


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 83, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 28014 times:

N455BJ delivery flight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=3s7RCKUwOGQ#!



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7210 posts, RR: 17
Reply 84, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 27980 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 81):
After a short stop in Vancouver to clear customs (and pick up a few boxes of Rogers' chocolates--the best chocolate in British Columbia), it's off to KMCI to see the Oklahoma State/Kansas State game.

Why do they need to fly to YVR for customs if they were built in the USA and coming back into the USA for cabin installation?



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User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1505 posts, RR: 8
Reply 85, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 27894 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 84):
Why do they need to fly to YVR for customs if they were built in the USA and coming back into the USA for cabin installation?

It's nothing new. For years any foreign registered (?) Boeing airplane that was remaining in the states for modifications or some other reason post delivery have ferried to CYVR (Vancouver) or CYXX (Abottsford) then to their destination. It's a "tax" issue (?) of some sort relative to exports. Is there a lawyer out there?


User currently offlinemffoda From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1056 posts, RR: 0
Reply 86, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 27811 times:

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 85):
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 84):
Why do they need to fly to YVR for customs if they were built in the USA and coming back into the USA for cabin installation?

It's nothing new. For years any foreign registered (?) Boeing airplane that was remaining in the states for modifications or some other reason post delivery have ferried to CYVR (Vancouver) or CYXX (Abottsford) then to their destination. It's a "tax" issue (?) of some sort relative to exports. Is there a lawyer out there?


Maybe I'm missing your meaning? But, US manufactured goods returning to the US do not have to pay any tax/duty... unless something has changed recently??



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User currently offlineSSTeve From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 695 posts, RR: 1
Reply 87, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 27419 times:

Quoting Lutfi (Reply 77):
Wow. The fact they have a free slot only 12 months away is telling. Whats the lead time (i.e. is that an aircraft already in build) I seem to recall it is 9 months, so probably not

6 or 12, it would seem. I wonder what the difference is? Engine PiP?


User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 88, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 27409 times:

Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (Nov-05-2012)
----------------------------------------------------------------------------
Updates from previous listing (Oct-05) :

- Firing order : NIL (no additions or corrections)
- Delivered : L/N 1456-RC025, L/N 1464-RC560, L/N 1459-RC006, L/N 1434-RC001
- Emerged from Final Assembly Line : L/N 1466-RC007, L/N 1467-RC580
- Several new (scheduled )delivery dates, corrections and additional (BBJ) background info.

-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
48 Completed airframes , Total delivered 34 (marked : @ ) , delivered 2011 (9), 2012 (25)
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

L/N 1420 - 747-8R7F, RC501, serial number 35808, F/F Feb-08-2010, test aircraft #1, light Boeing livery, test registration N747EX, Cargolux reg. LX-VCA (LX-ECV-- NTU), selcal code CK-EQ, During flight testing recorded 870+ hours in 354 flights, Ferried June-08-2011 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard. First test flight after refurbishment Sept-29-2012. Returned to KPAE at October-02-2012 with test registration N5020K, ferried to KPDX at October 23 for painting, scheduled return date KPAE around November 8, Scheduled Acceptance/Delivery date : December 2012.

L/N 1421 - 747-8KZF, RC521, serial number 36136, F/F March-17-2010, test aircraft #2, light Boeing livery, test reg. N5017Q, NCA reg. JA-11KZ , ferried May-29-2012 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard.

L/N 1422 - 747-8KZF, RC522, serial number 36137, F/F March-14-2010, test aircraft #3, light Boeing livery, test reg. N50217, NCA reg. JA-12KZ, During flight testing accumulated 720+ hours in 254 flights, ferried Oct-06-2011 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard. First test flight after refurbishment Oct-15-2012. Ferried at October 23-2012 to Victorville (KVCV). Expected return flight to KPAE 8/9 November.

@ L/N 1423 - 747-8R7F, RC502, serial number 35806, F/F Aug-31-2011, full livery, name : City of Esch-sur-Alzette, test registration N5014K, Cargolux reg. LX-VCB (LX-ACV-- NTU), selcal code CK-GQ, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX1JS- KSEA-ELLX) date : October-12-2011.

@ L/N 1424 - 747-8R7F, RC503, serial number 35807, F/F July-22-2010, test aircraft #4, full livery, name : City of Ettelbruck, test reg. N5573S, Cargolux reg. LX-VCC (LX-DCV-- NTU), selcal code CL-KQ, Acceptance and delivery flight (CLX789-KSEA-CYYC-ELLX) date: March-23-2012.

@ L/N 1425 - 747-8HTF, RC541, serial number 37132, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo( #1), full KAL livery, HL7609, selcal code AD-FL , F/F Jan-10-2012, Acceptance date Feb-06-2012, Delivery flight (KAL28D –RKSI/ICN ) date : Feb-07-2012.

@ L/N 1426 - 747-8HTF, RC546, serial number 37133, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo (#2), full KAL livery, test registration N5510E, HL7610, selcal code MQ-FJ, KPAE flight line, F/F Aug 18-2012, Acceptance / Delivery flight (KAL28D-PKSI/ICN) date : Sept 04-2012.

@ L/N 1427 - 747-867F, RC551, serial number 39238, Cathay #1, registration B-LJA, selcal code CR-HM, special Hong Kong Trader livery, F/F November 05-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date: November-15-2011.

@ L/N 1428 - 747-867F, RC552, serial number 39239, Cathay #2, , registration B-LJB, full livery, F/F November-16-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date : November-23-2011.

L/N 1429 - 747-87UF, RC571, serial number 37562, Atlas Air #1 (NTU), painted basic white-dark blue BA colours), KPAE –stall 119.

L/N 1430 - 747-8HVF, RC601, serial number 37580, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #1, registration VQ-BGZ (Volga Dnepr Group) , selcal code AH-KM, full ABC livery, KPAE flight line, F/F Sept-16-2012, Acceptance/ Delivery flight date : TBD

@ L/N 1431 - 747-8KZF, RC523, serial number 36138, F/F Feb-3-2011, test aircraft #5, NCA #3, test registration N6009F, registration JA13KZ, selcal code FQ-EM, new (adapted) NCA livery, refurbished at Lackland AFB and KPAE, Acceptance date July 25 2012. Delivery flight (NCA696 - RJAA) date : Aug-01-2012. First operational flight NCA108 ( RJAA-KLAX) Aug-13-2012.

L/N 1432 - 747-87UF, RC572, serial number 37563, Atlas Air #2 (NTU), white livery, no engines, low rate refurbishment, KPAE -stall 120.

L/N 1433 - 747-867F, RC553, serial number 39240, Cathay #3, registration B-LJC, full livery, no engines installed, KPAE flight line, Scheduled Delivery in July 2013 ?

@ L/N 1434 - 747-8JK, RC001, serial number 38636, 747-8I test aircraft #1, destined for a BBJ customer (State of Kuwait), test registration N6067E, full red-orange Boeing Sunrise livery, selcal code CQ-AJ, Official first Intercontinental roll-out ceremony happened at February 13, F/F March 20th, -2011. Last test flight at 01-12-2012, after approx. 200 flights with short of 600 flight hours. Refurbishment to delivery standard at KPAE and re-painted in full “ State of Kuwait “ livery, registration 9K-GAA, First functional test flight October 21-2012, Acceptance /Delivery flight (KAC8043-CYVR-KMCI)date : November 03-2012.

L/N 1435 - 747-830, RC021, serial number 37826, F/F April-26-2011, 747-8I test aircraft #2, test registration N6067U, Lufthansa #1, selcal code CS-HP, basic LH color scheme, without lettering and LH logo, future LH registration D-ABYE, low rate refurburbishment, KPAE flight line, with engines removed. Scheduled delivery date was September-30-2012 , but postponed till Sept 30-2013?

@ L/N 1436 - 747-8R7F, RC504, serial number 35809, Cargolux #4, full livery, name : City of Luxembourg, registration LX-VCD, selcal code AJ-CM, F/F September-02 -2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX789-ELLX) date : October 13-2011.

L/N 1437 - 747-87UF, RC573, serial number 37564, Atlas Air #3 (NTU), white livery with both rudders painted in Atlas livery, stored : Tower Apron KPAE.

L/N 1438 - 747-867F, RC554, serial number 39241, Cathay # 4, full livery, no engines, registration B-LJD, low rate refurbishment, at KPAE - stall 118, Scheduled Delivery in April 2013 ?

@ L/N 1439 - 747-8KB , RC002, serial number 37544, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri Flight , test registration N5022E, registration A7-HHE, white livery, F/F Jan-30-2012, Acceptance date Feb-27-2012, Delivery flight (A7HHE-CYVR-KIAB) date Feb-28-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin has been installed at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas, Ferry flight to Hamburg at Aug- 29-2012, Cabin outfitting at Lufthansa Technik in Hamburg, Germany. Service entry in 2014.

@ L/N 1440 - 747-8Z5 , RC003, serial number 37500, BBJ customer Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight (Presidential Flight Authority) , white livery, 747-8I test aircraft #3, test registration N5020K, future registration A6-PFA, selcal code MR-DQ , F/F June 30-2011, Acceptance date May-24-2012, Delivery flight (A6PFA-KIAB) date May-29-2012, stored during summer 2012 at Wichita, thereafter Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) . VIP Cabin outfitting by Lufthansa Technik, starting by the end of 2012.

@ L/N 1441 - 747-867F, RC555, serial number 39242, Cathay #5 , test registration N1785B, Cathay registration B-LJE, selcal code BF-CS, full livery, F/F Aug-13-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : October-31-2011.

@ L/N 1442 - 747-87UF, RC574, serial number 37561, Atlas Air #4 , full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSD, selcal code HL-ZQ, F/F October-21-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (GSS7478- EGSS) date : November-03-2011.

@ L/N 1443 - 747-830, RC022, serial number 37827, Lufthansa #2, test registration N5016R, LH registration D-ABYA, full livery, name : Brandenburg, selcal code BR-DA, F/F Feb-08-2012, Acceptance date April-25-2012, Delivery flight (DLH748 – EDDF) date : May 01 2012. Post delivery maintenance performed at Lufthansa Technik (EDDF). Inaugural flight DLH416 (EDDF-KIAD ) date: June-01-2012.

@ L/N 1444 - 747-87UF, RC575, serial number 37568, Atlas Air #5, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSE, selcal code HM-BQ, F/F November-17-2011, Acceptance date : December-05-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-19-2011.

@ L/N 1445 - 747-87UF, RC576, serial number 37569, Atlas Air #6, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSF, selcal code DK-JQ, F/F December-0 5-2011, Acceptance date : December-15-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-27-2011

@ L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud (Kingdom Holding Company), test registration N458BJ, future registration HZ-HMS1 , white livery, F/F May-30-2012, Acceptance date: June 29-2012, Delivery flight (N458BJ- CYVR-KSBD) date July 9-2012. Owner : Bank of Utah Trustee, Salt Lake City, UT (Corporation). Stored at San Bernadino . The Future of this aircraft seems to be unsure, because the Prince passed away at October 22-2011. VIP outfitting contract with Jet Aviation (Basel) was cancelled. Ferried, again with call-sign N458BJ, to Lackland AFB TX at October 06-2012. Sold/leased to a new customer or delivery to another member of the Saudi Royal Family ? VIP Cabin outfitting by Gore Design ? See : http://www.goredesign.com/

@ L/N 1447 - 747-867F, RC556, serial number 39243, Cathay #6 , registration B-LJF, full livery, FAL Roll out date November 2, selcal code DR-EJ, F/F December-01-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : December-12-2011.

@ L/N 1448 - 747-8HVF, RC 602, serial number 37581, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #2, registration VQ-BLQ, selcal code FM-DS, full livery, the last assembled 747-8 aircraft in 2011, F/F December-21-2011, Acceptance date Jan-26-2012. Delivery flight (ABW5011- KORD) date : Feb-03-2012.

@ L/N 1449 - 747-8KB , RC005, serial number 37075, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri flight, leased from Lewiston Investments, A7-HJA , selcal CE-JM, white livery, F/F March-31-2012, Acceptance and Delivery flight (A7HJA-CYVR-KIAB) date April -25-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas. Cabin outfitting will be done by completion center AMAC in Basel, Switzerland.

@ L/N 1450 - 747-867F, RC557, serial number 39244, Cathay #7, future registration B-LJG, full livery, selcal code LM-AJ, F/F February-11-2012, Acceptance date Feb-25-2012, Delivery flight (CPA3335-VHHH) date Feb-27-2012.

@ L/N 1451 - 747-830, RC023, serial number 37828, , Lufthansa #3, full livery, selcal code CR-DP, D-ABYC, named : Sachsen, F/F June-07-2012, Acceptance date June-30-2012, Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date July-01-2012, PDM by LH Technik at EDDF. First operational Flight DLH418 (EDDF-KIAD) July 25-2012.

@ L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, , AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #3, full livery, test reg. N1788B, registration VQ-BLR, selcal code DK-FS, F/F March-16-2012, Acceptance date : March-30-2012, Delivery flight (ABW4011-KORD) date : April 04-2012.

@ L/N 1453 - 747-830, RC024, serial number 37829, Lufthansa #4 , D-ABYD, named : Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, full livery, KPAE flight line, F/F Aug 01-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date Aug-24-2012, PDM by LH technik, First operational flight DLH754 (EDDF-VOBL) September 13-2012.

@ L/N 1454 -747-8R7F, RC505, serial number 35810, Cargolux #5, full livery, name : City of Echternach, registration LX-VCE, selcal AM-JP, F/F May 05 -2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CLX773-KSEA-KLAX-ELLX) date May 24-2012.

@ L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, serial number 37570, Atlas Air #7, full Panalpina livery, name: Spirit of Panalpina, registration N850GT, selcal code CM-GJ, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, F/F May-15-2012, Acceptance and delivery flight (GTI609-VHHH) date : May-31-2012.

@ L/N 1456 - 747-830, RC025, serial number 37830, Lufthansa #5, D-ABYF, selcal code CM-BH, full livery, , F/F Sept-28-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date October-23-2012. In Post Delivery Maintenance (PDM) at Lufthansa Technik (EDDF).

@ L/N 1457 - 747-867F, RC558, serial number 39245, Cathay #8, full livery, test registration N6018N, registration B-LJH, F/F June -14-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CPA3337- CYVR)date : July 13 2012.

@ L/N 1458 - 747-87UF, RC578, serial number 37565, Atlas Air #8, Full Panalpina livery, name : Passion for Solutions, registration N851GT, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, F/F July 12-2012, Acceptance date July 24, Delivery flight (KHSV-GTI9037)date July 25-2012.

@ L/N 1459 - 747-8LQ , RC006, serial number 41060, BBJ customer : According some rumours (not confirmed) : Bahrain Royal Flight, test registration N455BJ, future registration A9C-???, white livery, F/F October 18-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (N455BJ-CYVR-KAFW-KCNW) date : November 02-2012. Cabin outfitting by L3 Platform Integration at Waco,TX.

@ L/N 1460 - 747-867F, RC559, serial number 39247, Cathay #9, future registration B-LJI, full livery, KPAE Flight line, F/F Aug-20-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CPA3335 - CYVR) date Aug-30-2012.

@ L/N 1461 - 747-8R7F, RC506, serial number 35811, Cargolux #6, registration LX-VCF, full livery, name : City of Grevenmacher, F/F Aug 30-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CLX789-KSEA-ELLX )date Sept 12-2012.

@ L/N 1462 - 747-87UF, RC579, serial number 37571, Atlas Air #9, registration N852GT, full Atlas livery, KPAE flight line, FAL roll-out Aug 07-2012, F/F September 14-2012, Acceptance date Sept-30-2012 /Delivery flight (GTI9812-KCVG) date October- 02-2012

L/N1463 - 747-8HVF, RC604, serial number 37669, Air Bridge Cargo Airlines (ABC) #4 , VQ-BRH, unpainted with white rudders, KPAE flight line, expected delivery : TBD

@L/N1464 - 747-867F, RC560, serial number 39246, Cathay #10, registration B-LJJ, full livery, Roll-out date Sept. 5, F/F October 16-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CPA3335-VHHH) date October 26-2012.

L/N1465 - 747-8R7F, RC507, serial number 35812, Cargolux #7, full livery, name : City of Diekirch, registration LX-VCG, KPAE flight line, F/F October 16-2012, Scheduled Acceptance/Delivery date : November 15-2012.

L/N 1466 - 747-8**/BBJ, RC007 , FAL roll-out October 07-2012, white livery, KPAE flight line, scheduled delivery date November 27-2012.

L/N 1467 - 747-87UF, RC580, serial number 37572, Atlas Air #10, N853GT, unpainted with blue rudders, KPAE flight line, expected delivery : end of November 2012.
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At this moment : 4 Airframes at the Final Assembly Line (FAL) at Everett Building 40-22
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L/N 1468 - 747-8**/BBJ, RC008, slant position #1
L/N 1469 - 747-8KZF, RC524, serial number 37394, NCA#4, registration JA14KZ, slant position #2.
L/N 1470 - 747-830, RC026, serial number 37831, Lufthansa #6, D-ABYG, scheduled delivery *Jan 31 2013, body join position.
L/N 1471 - 747-87UF, RC581, Atlas Air #11, wing join position.

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Airframes (16), scheduled for Final Assembly (Subject to change).
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L/N 1472 - 747-830, RC027, serial number 37832, Lufthansa #7, D-ABYH, scheduled delivery* Feb 28 2013
L/N 1473 - 747-8R7F, RC508, serial number 35821, Cargolux #8, registration LX-VCH
L/N 1474 - 747-8B5F, RC547, serial number 37654, KAL#3, HL7617
L/N 1475 - 747-830, RC028, serial number 37833, Lufthansa #8, D-ABYI, scheduled delivery*April 30 2013
L/N 1476 - 747-87UF, RC582, Atlas Air #12
L/N 1477 - 747-830, RC029, serial number 37834, Lufthansa #9, D-ABYJ, scheduled delivery* June 30 2013
L/N 1478 - 747-8R7F, RC509, serial number 35822, Cargolux #9, registration LX-VCI
L/N 1479 - 747-8KZF, RC525, serial number 36139, NCA #5, registration JA15KZ
L/N 1480 - 747-830, RC030, serial number 37835, Lufthansa #10, D-ABYK, scheduled delivery* July 31 2013
L/N 1481 - 747-8B5F, RC548, serial number 37655, KAL #4
L/N 1482 - 747-8HVF, RC605, serial number 37582, Air Bridge Cargo( ABC) #5
L/N 1483 - 747-8FTF***, RC631, Air China Cargo #1 (CGC )
L/N 1484 - 747-8FTF***, RC632, Air China Cargo #2 (CGC)
L/N 1485 - 747-8KZF, RC526, NCA #6, registration JA16KZ
L/N 1486 - 747-8FTF***, RC633, Air China Cargo #3 (CGC)
L/N 1487 - 747-8KZF, RC527, NCA #7, registration JA17KZ, nominal roll-out date August 22-2013.

? = not confirmed
NTU = not taken up
TBD = to be decided.
*= Only one (1) source : http://lh-taufnamen.de/lufthansa
**= Boeing Customer code not known.
***=Boeing internal airline code CGC = Air China Cargo . However no “not identified “ customer is added to the Boeing order list. Aircraft are probably leased from a still unknown lessor (GECAS, DAE ??) seen the fact that a direct order (or a changed order from the 747-8I to -8F) must have been reported to the HK stock exchange. The Boeing customer code could be -FT (Air China Cargo) or the customer code of the lessor.

Any updates and/or corrections are highly appreciated,

Peter.

[Edited 2012-11-05 06:48:55]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 89, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 27280 times:

Thanks again for the update.

Could you insert a new line between L/N 1428 and L/N 1429?



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 90, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 27290 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 89):
Could you insert a new line between L/N 1428 and L/N 1429?

Done, new line inserted.



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 91, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 27258 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 88):
L/N 1422 - 747-8KZF, RC522, serial number 36137, F/F March-14-2010, test aircraft #3, light Boeing livery, test reg. N50217, NCA reg. JA-12KZ, During flight testing accumulated 720+ hours in 254 flights, ferried Oct-06-2011 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard. First test flight after refurbishment Oct-15-2012. Ferried at October 23-2012 to Victorville (KVCV). Expected return flight to KPAE 8/9 November.

RC522 is on its way to PAE now.

http://nl.flightaware.com/live/fligh...2/history/20121107/1600Z/KVCV/KPAE



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User currently offlinecatdaddy63 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 92, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 27272 times:
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As 747classic reported, RC522 is on the move again. Currently enroute VCV-PAE.

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE522


User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 93, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 27257 times:

RC522/JA12KZ was re-painted from the " light Boeing " livery into the NCA livery in Victorville, see Matt cawby's KPAE blog :
http://paineairport.com/kpae5579.htm



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 94, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 27236 times:

Nice, realy nice.

I didn't know Boeing paints some frames at Victorville?

[Edited 2012-11-08 00:16:55]


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User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1505 posts, RR: 8
Reply 95, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 27227 times:

Quoting mffoda (Reply 86):
Maybe I'm missing your meaning? But, US manufactured goods returning to the US do not have to pay any tax/duty... unless something has changed recently??

What you're talking about is something that leaves the US. They need to leave the US ie go to Canada and be "exported" to be allowed to continue to where the mod work is being done in the US.


User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 96, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day ago) and read 27218 times:

N853GT/RC580 emerged from the paint hangar In DHL Express livery, see yellow tail 747-8F at the picture below.

Original uploaded by moonm, see for other sizes : http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/8168508859/in/photostream

Full aircraft data : L/N 1467 - 747-87UF, RC580, serial number 37572, Atlas Air #10, N853GT, DHL Express livery, KPAE flight line, expected delivery : end of November 2012.

[Edited 2012-11-09 07:50:02]


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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 97, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 27209 times:

The last produced (L/N1463 / VQ-BRH) and still unpainted Air Bridge Cargo (ABC) 747-8F on the KPAE flight line started the engines at last, see Matt cawby's KPAE Blog picture :
http://paineairport.com/kpae5587.htm

Is this the first move to a (double) ABC 747-8F delivery, to replace the two 747-400ERF aircraft, that will be transferred from ABC towards Air Cargo Germany , see :
http://www.cargofacts.net/profiles/b...f-air-cargo-germany-appears-to-be-

Aircraft data of the two ABC freighters at the Paine Field flight line :

L/N 1430 - 747-8HVF, RC601, serial number 37580, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #1, registration VQ-BGZ (Volga Dnepr Group) , selcal code AH-KM, full ABC livery, KPAE flight line, F/F Sept-16-2012, Acceptance/ Delivery flight date : TBD

L/N1463 - 747-8HVF, RC604, serial number 37669, Air Bridge Cargo Airlines (ABC) #4 , VQ-BRH, unpainted with white rudders, KPAE flight line, expected delivery : TBD



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 98, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 6 days ago) and read 27183 times:

A7-HJA/RC005 was ferried from McConnell AFB (KIAB) towards Bale Mulhouse Airport (LFSB) at November 09, after the Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation was completed at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES), Wichita, Kansas.
Further VIP cabin outfitting will be provided by completion centre AMAC, located at Basel.

See : http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....47-8kb-bbj-qatar-amiri-flight.html
And : http://www.flightradar24.com/#!/2012-11-10/00:28/A7HJA
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L/N 1468, a still unknown 747-8/BBJ with tabulation number RC008, emerged at the Paine Field flight line, unpainted with white rudders. FAL roll-out happened at November 08-2012.
RC008 - KPAE - Nov -09 -2012


The picture is a cut-out from Matt Cawby's KPAE flight line photo of Nov.09, see :
http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvo...8174308895/sizes/o/in/photostream/



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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 99, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 27166 times:

RC501 is in paint and is scheduled to arrive at PAE today.

http://nl.flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE501

[Edited 2012-11-11 08:57:22]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 100, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 27161 times:

Picture of RC501 / LX-VCA in paint:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabian404/8176138504/lightbox/



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User currently offlinesabian404 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 101, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 27174 times:

501 is having some type of issues. They had the beacon on for a good 45 minutes and even started the engines. They shut it down and everyone walked back into the paint hangar.

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 102, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 27358 times:

That explains why the flight has disappeared from Flightaware. Thanks for the update.


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User currently offlinesabian404 From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 25 posts, RR: 0
Reply 103, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 27338 times:

As of an hour ago a crew was working on RC501's rudder/vertical stabilizer. Hopefully they'll fix it tonight and it'll be able to depart back to Paine tomorrow.

User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 104, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 27307 times:

RC501 / LX-VCA flown from Portland (KPDX) for a ferry/test flight towards Paine Field (KPAE) at Monday (Nov-12) afternoon, see :

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...1/history/20121112/1900Z/KPDX/KPAE



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 105, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 27321 times:

A interesting article about the 747-8 series has been revealed by Flight Global.

- An overview about the difference with the 744.
- flight testing history.
- The targets for end 2013 : Boeing will undertake a major flight-test programme in mid-2013 to clear the GEnx PIP (including a 4% thrust increase), FMC 3.0 update and the modifications needed to reactivate the tail fuel tank.
Also a weight saving program for an empty weight saving of 5000 lbs must be completed at the same time.

See : http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...hnical-description-cutaway-378866/



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User currently offlineRonaldo747 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 373 posts, RR: 0
Reply 106, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 27279 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 105):
Boeing will undertake a major flight-test programme in mid-2013

Wonder if they're going to use RC021 (LH's future D-ABYE) for that. This might be the reason that the delivery is postponed (into Sept. 2013?). Also one of the Atlas NTU's are potential candidates.


User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 107, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 27297 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 98):
A7-HJA/RC005 was ferried from McConnell AFB (KIAB) towards Bale Mulhouse Airport (LFSB) at November 09

Here is a picture of A7-HJA landing at Basel-Mulhouse in wet conditions, the aircraft proceeded direct to AMAC aerospace for VIP cabin installation.

http://i41.servimg.com/u/f41/17/91/52/93/img_9915.jpg
Original uploaded by Roadrunner68, see for more photos : http://www.eapspotter-team.com/t1798-novembre-2012#17197 (and scroll down)



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 108, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 27254 times:

RC604 / VQ-BRH the fourth produced Air Bridge Cargo 747-8 freighter just airborne for a first (B1) flight towards Moses Lake, see :
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...4/history/20121114/1930Z/KPAE/KMWH


Aircraft data : L/N1463 - 747-8HVF, RC604, serial number 37669, Air Bridge Cargo Airlines (ABC) #4 , VQ-BRH, full livery?, KPAE flight line, F/F Nov-14-2012, expected delivery : TBD



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User currently offlinepetera380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 346 posts, RR: 0
Reply 109, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 27216 times:
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Quoting 747classic (Reply 108):
Aircraft data : L/N1463 - 747-8HVF, RC604, serial number 37669, Air Bridge Cargo Airlines (ABC) #4 , VQ-BRH, full livery?, KPAE flight line, F/F Nov-14-2012, expected delivery : TBD

It was bare metal for the FF.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 110, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 27219 times:

RC007 first flight is scheduled for today.

http://nl.flightaware.com/live/fligh...7/history/20121115/2245Z/KMWH/KPAE



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User currently offlinepetera380 From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 346 posts, RR: 0
Reply 111, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 27212 times:
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Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 110):
RC007 first flight is scheduled for today

That can't be a first flight?, seems to me going from Grant Co Intl to Moses Lake, WA Snohomish County. The wrong way for a first flight?


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 112, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 27213 times:

You are right, I need my glasses.


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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 113, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 27207 times:

Quoting petera380 (Reply 111):
That can't be a first flight?, seems to me going from Grant Co Intl to Moses Lake, WA Snohomish County. The wrong way for a first flight?

You must be looking at the return flight from Moses Lake. RC007 is indeed scheduled to make her first flight this afternoon (KPAE to KMWH). Then she returns to KPAE for the usual fixing of customer squawks and prep for delivery in just a few weeks.


User currently offlineferpe From France, joined Nov 2010, 2800 posts, RR: 59
Reply 114, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 27234 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 105):
Also a weight saving program for an empty weight saving of 5000 lbs must be completed at the same time.

Is there convergence where the 748i spec OEW will land with those 5000lb done?



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User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1505 posts, RR: 8
Reply 115, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 27214 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 113):
You must be looking at the return flight from Moses Lake. RC007 is indeed scheduled to make her first flight this afternoon (KPAE to KMWH). Then she returns to KPAE for the usual fixing of customer squawks and prep for delivery in just a few weeks.

Doesn't look like it made it today. It needs a customer flight before it can have cutomer squawks and the flight today was just the B-1.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 116, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 27209 times:

RC007 at Paine Field:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/8190481094/



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 117, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 27235 times:

D-ABYF, the fourth delivered LH 747-830 is active, after the completion of Post Delivery Maintenance at Lufthansa Technik . The aircraft also received her name : Sachsen -Anhalt.
First operational flight DLH418 (EDDF-KIAD) was completed at November 09-2012.
Below is a picture of D-ABYF taken at Frankfurt at November 12. The aircraft is prepared for the next flight to IAD (again as DLH418).


Original uploaded by supera380, for other sizes see : http://www.flickr.com/photos/27603071@N07/8189282010/



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 118, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 1 day ago) and read 27215 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 117):
D-ABYF, the fourth delivered LH 747-830 is active, after the completion of Post Delivery Maintenance at Lufthansa Technik . The aircraft also received her name : Sachsen -Anhalt.

So all four 748Is so far carry the names of "new" German States.


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 119, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 27206 times:

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 115):
It needs a customer flight before it can have cutomer squawks and the flight today was just the B-1.

Oh, if only it were true that the customer would keep his eyes and hands off their airplanes until the C-1 flight. Actually, the customer inspects the airplane from the moment it begins assembly in Everett.

The schedule says "intermediate inspection" and "work squawks" between the B-1 and C-1 flights.

The B-1 flight is happening right now:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE7


User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 120, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 27216 times:

RC007 - N5511V, destined for a still unknown BBJ customer, is airborne for a first (B1) flight towards Moses Lake, see :
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...7/history/20121116/2045Z/KPAE/KMWH

Aircraft data : L/N 1466 - 747-8H0 *, RC007, BBJ customer ?, test registration N5511V, white livery, FAL roll-out October 07-2012, F/F November-16-2012, KPAE flight line, scheduled delivery date November 27-2012.

* not confirmed, but the 747-8H0 model is the last added on this FAA 747-8 listing : http://registry.faa.gov/aircraftinqu...G+&Modeltxt=747-8&PageNo=1

[Edited 2012-11-16 10:45:12]


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User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1505 posts, RR: 8
Reply 121, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 27217 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 119):
Oh, if only it were true that the customer would keep his eyes and hands off their airplanes until the C-1 flight. Actually, the customer inspects the airplane from the moment it begins assembly in Everett.

The schedule says "intermediate inspection" and "work squawks" between the B-1 and C-1 flights.

True the customers are all over the airplane from the day it enters the factory (some more so than others), but to keep the terminology straight, all the issues that the customer writes up through the entire process and while its on the ground between flights are called "customer pickups"--any major issues that occur after the airplane is released for flight (B-1, C-1 etc) are "flight squawks" or just "squawks" which is what the schedule is talking about.


User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 122, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 27225 times:

Quoting 7BOEING7 (Reply 121):
any major issues that occur after the airplane is released for flight (B-1, C-1 etc) are "flight squawks" or just "squawks"

RC007 just landed at KPAE after her second flight. Let the repair of the flight squawks begin.

[Edited 2012-11-16 13:08:07]

User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 123, posted (1 year 8 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 27264 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 120):
RC007 - N5511V, destined for a still unknown BBJ customer,

The customer for RC007 has been identified : Oman Royal flight.

See : http://boeing-test-flights.blogspot....-a40-hms-b747-8h0-bbj-hm-oman.html

Aircraft data : L/N 1466 - 747-8H0, RC007, serial number 39749, Oman Royal Flight, test registration N5511V, future registration A4O-HMS, white livery, FAL roll-out October 07-2012, F/F November-16-2012, KPAE flight line, scheduled delivery date November 27-2012.

[Edited 2012-11-16 14:14:27]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 124, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 27232 times:

There is some activity around RC021 (N6067U), the frame was moved to the EMC.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/8195380584/in/contacts/



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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 125, posted (1 year 8 months 1 week 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 27206 times:

RC507 delivery flight has been put into the system:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/CLX773


User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 126, posted (1 year 8 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 26975 times:

The 747-8 scheduled assembly order (firing line) has been been revised :


Air China Cargo airplanes changed to Cathay Pacific.

LN 1483, 747- 8FTF, RC631, Air China Cargo #1 is now 747-867F, RC561, Cathay #11
LN 1484, 747- 8FTF, RC632, Air China Cargo #2 is now 747-867F, RC562, Cathay #12
LN 1486, 747- 8FTF, RC633, Air China Cargo #3 is now 747-867F, RC563, Cathay #13.

These three Cathay airframes are not yet ordered. AFAIK the original order was for 10 aircraft only, presently 10 assembled, 8 delivered, with no further options and/or delivery slots.

Will Cathay lease these aircraft to Air China Cargo or, with two early built Cathay airframes (RC553 and RC 554) still not being delivered, will we see some early airframes leased to Air China Cargo and Cathay taking the newer ones ?

Did Cathay finally made the decision to purchase more new freighters i.s.o. holding on to the "old" strategy of (partly) operating with converted (747)freighters.

See for Background info about Cathay's current fleet strategy, this flight global article : http://www.flightglobal.com/news/art...l-change-in-cargo-business-379296/

[Edited 2012-11-24 08:30:56]


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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30577 posts, RR: 84
Reply 127, posted (1 year 8 months 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 27026 times:
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Quoting 747classic (Reply 126):
hese three Cathay airframes are not yet ordered.

Air China Cargo also has three 747-8 freighters in the firing order that they have yet to formally order, as well.


User currently offlinehumanitarian From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 128, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 26623 times:

Quoting SSTeve (Reply 87):
@ L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Prince Alwaleed Bin Talal Bin Abdulaziz Alsaud (Kingdom Holding Company), test registration N458BJ, future registration HZ-HMS1 , white livery, F/F May-30-2012, Acceptance date: June 29-2012, Delivery flight (N458BJ- CYVR-KSBD) date July 9-2012. Owner : Bank of Utah Trustee, Salt Lake City, UT (Corporation). Stored at San Bernadino . The Future of this aircraft seems to be unsure, because the Prince passed away at October 22-2011. VIP outfitting contract with Jet Aviation (Basel) was cancelled. Ferried, again with call-sign N458BJ, to Lackland AFB TX at October 06-2012. Sold/leased to a new customer or delivery to another member of the Saudi Royal Family ? VIP Cabin outfitting by Gore Design ? See : http://www.goredesign.com/



I had not heard that Prince Alwaleed passed away so I did an Internet search and could not find any confirmation that he has died. If anyone can confirm that he has passed away please provide a confirmation here.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Al-Waleed_bin_Talal


User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 30577 posts, RR: 84
Reply 129, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 26634 times:
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Quoting humanitarian (Reply 128):
I had not heard that Prince Alwaleed passed away so I did an Internet search and could not find any confirmation that he has died.

If he's dead, his zombie corpse was busy doing PR as of 21 November - http://www.ameinfo.com/ruler-fujaira...ives-prince-alwaleed-palace-319810


User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1505 posts, RR: 8
Reply 130, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 26489 times:

Right country, wrong Prince.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15413275

He was head of the airline.


User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 131, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 26439 times:

Correct, the original owner was The Saudi Crown Prince Bin Abdulaziz Al Saud, who passed away at October 22, 2011.

Sorry, I got a little mixed up with all these "look alike" names. Thanks for the correction.

Corrected data : L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Crown Prince Bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (Saudi Arabian Government ), test registration N458BJ, future registration HZ-HMS1 , white livery, F/F May-30-2012, Acceptance date: June 29-2012, Delivery flight (N458BJ- CYVR-KSBD) date July 9-2012. Owner : Bank of Utah Trustee, Salt Lake City, Utah (Corporation). Stored at San Bernadino . The Future of this aircraft seems to be unsure, because the Crown Prince passed away at October 22-2011. VIP outfitting contract with Jet Aviation (Basel) was cancelled. Ferried, again with call-sign N458BJ, to Lackland AFB TX at October 06-2012. Leased to a new customer or delivery to another member of the Saudi Royal Family ? VIP Cabin outfitting by Gore Design ? See : http://www.goredesign.com/

[Edited 2012-11-25 11:18:18]


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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7210 posts, RR: 17
Reply 132, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 26093 times:

Question about a 748 delivered to Polar Air Cargo- is this a/c in Atlas Air livery? I caught it landing as PAC946 ANC-CVG earlier today but, as I was standing underneath it as it flew over, I couldn't catch the livery, but I swear it looked like an Atlas jet. Can you guys clarify this for me?


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User currently offlineKAUSpilot From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 1958 posts, RR: 33
Reply 133, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 26047 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 132):
Question about a 748 delivered to Polar Air Cargo- is this a/c in Atlas Air livery? I caught it landing as PAC946 ANC-CVG earlier today but, as I was standing underneath it as it flew over, I couldn't catch the livery, but I swear it looked like an Atlas jet. Can you guys clarify this for me?

Yes N852GT is in regular Atlas Air livery and on the Atlas Air operating certificate. The airplane is operated under contract with DHL and Atlas uses the Polar callsign for its DHL contract flights, regardless of paint scheme or what operating certificate the airframe is on. As I'm sure you know Atlas/Polar are owned by the same holding company (Atlas Air Worldwide Holdings) and they use the same pilots/mechanics/dispatchers, etc. The Polar certificate is kept alive due to certain route authorizations and other technical/contractual reasons.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7210 posts, RR: 17
Reply 134, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days ago) and read 25825 times:

Quoting KAUSpilot (Reply 133):

I appreciate the info. It was a sight to behold indeed.



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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 135, posted (1 year 8 months 5 days ago) and read 25852 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 127):

Air China Cargo also has three 747-8 freighters in the firing order that they have yet to formally order, as well.

Not anymore. Those three airplanes were replaced by the Cathay Pacific airplanes (see post #126 in this thread). That's why the speculation that Air China Cargo may lease airplanes from Cathay Pacific.


User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 136, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 25568 times:

RC580 / N853GT just airborne from Paine Field for a first (B1) flight towards Moses Lake with call sign BOE580, see :
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...0/history/20121126/1900Z/KPAE/KMWH

Aircraft data : L/N 1467 - 747-87UF, RC580, serial number 37572, Atlas Air #10, N853GT, Polar/DHL Express livery, F/F November 26 -2012, expected delivery : end of November 2012 (probably December ??)



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User currently offlineCCA From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2002, 830 posts, RR: 14
Reply 137, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 25336 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 126):
Air China Cargo airplanes changed to Cathay Pacific.

LN 1483, 747- 8FTF, RC631, Air China Cargo #1 is now 747-867F, RC561, Cathay #11
LN 1484, 747- 8FTF, RC632, Air China Cargo #2 is now 747-867F, RC562, Cathay #12
LN 1486, 747- 8FTF, RC633, Air China Cargo #3 is now 747-867F, RC563, Cathay #13.

Thread drift, is there a way to see where CXs 777Fs are in the system ie are they still for CX? Or is CX now consolidating with the -8F?

What's the expected roll out for these airframes?

[Edited 2012-11-26 20:25:55]


C152 G115 TB10 CAP10 SR-22 Be76 PA-34 NDN-1T C500 A330-300 A340-300 -600 B747-200F -200SF -400 -400F -400BCF -400ERF -8F
User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 138, posted (1 year 8 months 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 25225 times:

Quoting CCA (Reply 137):
is there a way to see where CXs 777Fs are in the system ie are they still for CX? Or is CX now consolidating with the -8F?

What's the expected roll out for these airframes?

I have no info about the roll out and/ or delivery dates of the CX 777F aircraff.

747-8 roll out dates are a function of the actual assembly rate. With a sustained rate of 2/month, FAL roll-out of L.N 1483, 1484 and 1486 will be in the June-August 2013 time frame.



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 139, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 24837 times:

The next 747-8 freighter, L/N 1469 for NCA, emerged from the Final Assembly Line.
Part of the NCA livery is already visible at both rudders, see Matt Cawby's KPAE blog :
http://paineairport.com/kpae5657.htm

This aircraft is the 50th assembled 747-8.

Aircraft data : L/N 1469 - 747-8KZF, RC524, serial number 37394, NCA#4, registration JA14KZ

[Edited 2012-11-27 22:09:31]


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 140, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 24754 times:

Here is another picture of LN 1469 http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/8225320969/in/photostream/lightbox/


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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 141, posted (1 year 8 months 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 24690 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 126):
Air China Cargo airplanes changed to Cathay Pacific.

Thats indeed interesting. Some days ago I read that CX is very happy with the performance of the 748F. Lets hope this will lead to a 748I order soon. The freight division has the most capable plane worldwide, but the mainline cant really compete.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 142, posted (1 year 8 months 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 24268 times:

RC571 (LN 1429) looks almost complete:
http://paineairport.com/kpae5660.htm



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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 143, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 24080 times:

RC580 is currently making her C-1 flight:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE580

Delivery is scheduled for tomorrow.

RC007's delivery is scheduled for today. The delivery flight could be as early as next week.


User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1505 posts, RR: 8
Reply 144, posted (1 year 8 months 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 24037 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 143):
RC580 is currently making her C-1 flight:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE580

Profile looks more like a B-2 to me, we'll see.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 145, posted (1 year 8 months 19 hours ago) and read 23639 times:

Boeing moved RC573, the third Atlas Air frame, to the flightline.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/8232035314/in/photostream



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User currently offlinestarrion From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1126 posts, RR: 2
Reply 146, posted (1 year 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 23611 times:

Given that all three of the atlas frames are seeing activity, should we take it that a buyer has been found?


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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10654 posts, RR: 9
Reply 147, posted (1 year 8 months 18 hours ago) and read 23616 times:

Quoting starrion (Reply 146):
Given that all three of the atlas frames are seeing activity, should we take it that a buyer has been found?

Lets hope so. Even if not quite as good as later built frames they are still more capable than ANY other freighter type out there.


User currently online7BOEING7 From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1505 posts, RR: 8
Reply 148, posted (1 year 8 months 12 hours ago) and read 23419 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 136):
Aircraft data : L/N 1467 - 747-87UF, RC580, serial number 37572, Atlas Air #10, N853GT, Polar/DHL Express livery, F/F November 26 -2012, expected delivery : end of November 2012 (probably December ??)

After a B-2 and B-3 yesterday and an aborted C-1 today it looks like they reflew (C-2/C-1 profile) this afternoon. If everything worked okay it should be ready to "ship".


User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 149, posted (1 year 8 months 7 hours ago) and read 23362 times:

Provisional 747-8 Aircraft Production List (December 01- 2012)
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Updates from previous listing (Nov -05) :

- Firing Order , Added : LN 1488-RC549
- Firing Order , Changed : Air China Cargo slots changed to Cathay Pacific.(lsd to Air China Cargo?)
- Accepted and Delivered : L/N1465-RC507
- L/N1466-RC007 and L/N1467-RC580 are scheduled to be accepted by their customers at Dec 2 and Dec 1.
- Emerged from Final Assembly Line : L/N1468-RC008, L/N1469-RC524
- Serial numbers added until /incl. L/N 1482 (except the two BBJ’s, with L/N 1466 and 1468)
- RC008 : 747-8ZV (new Boeing customer number, customer not known)
- New (scheduled )delivery dates, corrections and additional background info added.

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50 Completed airframes , Delivered 35 (marked : @ ) , Delivered 2011 (9), 2012 (26)
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L/N 1420 - 747-8R7F, RC501, serial number 35808, F/F Feb-08-2010, test aircraft #1, light Boeing livery, test registration N747EX, selcal code CK-EQ, During flight testing recorded 870+ hours in 354 flights, Ferried June-08-2011 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard. First test flight after refurbishment Sept-29-2012. Returned to KPAE at October-02-2012 with test registration N5020K, ferried to KPDX at October 23 for painting, returned to KPAE at November 12 with Cargolux registration LX-VCA(LX-ECV –NTU), name : City of Vianden, Scheduled Acceptance/Delivery flight date : December 2012.

L/N 1421 - 747-8KZF, RC521, serial number 36136, F/F March-17-2010, test aircraft #2, light Boeing livery, test reg. N5017Q, NCA reg. JA-11KZ , ferried May-29-2012 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard.

L/N 1422 - 747-8KZF, RC522, serial number 36137, F/F March-14-2010, test aircraft #3, light Boeing livery, test reg. N50217, NCA reg. JA-12KZ, During flight testing accumulated 720+ hours in 254 flights, ferried Oct-06-2011 to Lackland AFB, San Antonio, for refurbishment to delivery standard. First test flight after refurbishment Oct-15-2012. Ferried at October 23-2012 to Victorville (KVCV)for re-painting, return flight to KPAE 07 November. Acceptance delivery flight date : TBD.

@ L/N 1423 - 747-8R7F, RC502, serial number 35806, F/F Aug-31-2011, full livery, name : City of Esch-sur-Alzette, test registration N5014K, Cargolux reg. LX-VCB (LX-ACV-- NTU), selcal code CK-GQ, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX1JS- KSEA-ELLX) date : October-12-2011.

@ L/N 1424 - 747-8R7F, RC503, serial number 35807, F/F July-22-2010, test aircraft #4, full livery, name : City of Ettelbruck, test reg. N5573S, Cargolux reg. LX-VCC (LX-DCV-- NTU), selcal code CL-KQ, Acceptance and delivery flight (CLX789-KSEA-CYYC-ELLX) date: March-23-2012.

@ L/N 1425 - 747-8HTF, RC541, serial number 37132, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo( #1), full KAL livery, HL7609, selcal code AD-FL , F/F Jan-10-2012, Acceptance date Feb-06-2012, Delivery flight (KAL28D –RKSI/ICN ) date : Feb-07-2012.

@ L/N 1426 - 747-8HTF, RC546, serial number 37133, Guggenheim Aviation Partners (GuAP) NTU, KAL Cargo (#2), full KAL livery, test registration N5510E, HL7610, selcal code MQ-FJ, KPAE flight line, F/F Aug 18-2012, Acceptance / Delivery flight (KAL28D-PKSI/ICN) date : Sept 04-2012.

@ L/N 1427 - 747-867F, RC551, serial number 39238, Cathay #1, registration B-LJA, selcal code CR-HM, special Hong Kong Trader livery, F/F November 05-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date: November-15-2011.

@ L/N 1428 - 747-867F, RC552, serial number 39239, Cathay #2, , registration B-LJB, full livery, F/F November-16-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH) date : November-23-2011.

L/N 1429 - 747-87UF, RC571, serial number 37562, Atlas Air #1 (NTU), painted basic white-dark blue BA Colours), KPAE –stall 110, refurbishment completed ?

L/N 1430 - 747-8HVF, RC601, serial number 37580, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #1, registration VQ-BGZ (Volga Dnepr Group) , selcal code AH-KM, full ABC livery, KPAE flight line, F/F Sept-16-2012, Acceptance/ Delivery flight date : TBD

@ L/N 1431 - 747-8KZF, RC523, serial number 36138, F/F Feb-3-2011, test aircraft #5, NCA #3, test registration N6009F, registration JA13KZ, selcal code FQ-EM, new (adapted) NCA livery, refurbished at Lackland AFB and KPAE, Acceptance date July 25 2012. Delivery flight (NCA696 - RJAA) date : Aug-01-2012. First operational flight NCA108 ( RJAA-KLAX) Aug-13-2012.

L/N 1432 - 747-87UF, RC572, serial number 37563, Atlas Air #2 (NTU), white livery, no engines, low rate refurbishment, KPAE -stall 120.

L/N 1433 - 747-867F, RC553, serial number 39240, Cathay #3, registration B-LJC, full livery, no engines installed, low rate refurbishment, KPAE –stall 119, Scheduled Delivery in July 2013 ?

@ L/N 1434 - 747-8JK, RC001, serial number 38636, 747-8I test aircraft #1, destined for a BBJ customer (State of Kuwait), test registration N6067E, full red-orange Boeing Sunrise livery, selcal code CQ-AJ, Official first Intercontinental roll-out ceremony happened at February 13, F/F March 20th, -2011. Last test flight at 01-12-2012, after approx. 200 flights with short of 600 flight hours. Refurbishment to delivery standard at KPAE and re-painted in full “ State of Kuwait “ livery, registration 9K-GAA, First functional test flight October 21-2012, Acceptance /Delivery flight (KAC8043-CYVR-KMCI)date : November 03-2012.

L/N 1435 - 747-830, RC021, serial number 37826, F/F April-26-2011, 747-8I test aircraft #2, test registration N6067U, Lufthansa #1, selcal code CS-HP, basic LH color scheme, without lettering and LH logo, future LH registration D-ABYE, low rate refurbishment, engines removed, KPAE Everett Modification Center, Could be used for additional flight testing (tail tank, GEnx-2B PIP). Scheduled delivery date was September-30-2012 , but postponed until end of September 2013 or according some rumours 2015 ?

@ L/N 1436 - 747-8R7F, RC504, serial number 35809, Cargolux #4, full livery, name : City of Luxembourg, registration LX-VCD, selcal code AJ-CM, F/F September-02 -2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CLX789-ELLX) date : October 13-2011.

L/N 1437 - 747-87UF, RC573, serial number 37564, Atlas Air #3 (NTU), white livery with both rudders painted in Atlas livery, stored : Tower Apron KPAE.

L/N 1438 - 747-867F, RC554, serial number 39241, Cathay # 4, full livery, no engines, registration B-LJD, low rate refurbishment, at KPAE - stall 118, Scheduled Delivery in April 2013 ?

@ L/N 1439 - 747-8KB , RC002, serial number 37544, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri Flight , test registration N5022E, registration A7-HHE, white livery, F/F Jan-30-2012, Acceptance date Feb-27-2012, Delivery flight (A7HHE-CYVR-KIAB) date Feb-28-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin has been installed at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) in Wichita, Kansas, Ferry flight to Hamburg at Aug- 29-2012, Cabin outfitting at Lufthansa Technik in Hamburg, Germany. Service entry in 2014.

@ L/N 1440 - 747-8Z5 , RC003, serial number 37500, BBJ customer Abu Dhabi Amiri Flight (Presidential Flight Authority) , white livery, 747-8I test aircraft #3, test registration N5020K, future registration A6-PFA, selcal code MR-DQ , F/F June 30-2011, Acceptance date May-24-2012, Delivery flight (A6PFA-KIAB) date May-29-2012, stored during summer 2012 at Wichita, thereafter Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES) . VIP Cabin outfitting by Lufthansa Technik, starting by the end of 2012.

@ L/N 1441 - 747-867F, RC555, serial number 39242, Cathay #5 , test registration N1785B, Cathay registration B-LJE, selcal code BF-CS, full livery, F/F Aug-13-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : October-31-2011

@ L/N 1442 - 747-87UF, RC574, serial number 37561, Atlas Air #4 , full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSD, selcal code HL-ZQ, F/F October-21-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (GSS7478- EGSS) date : November-03-2011

@ L/N 1443 - 747-830, RC022, serial number 37827, Lufthansa #2, test registration N5016R, LH registration D-ABYA, full livery, name : Brandenburg, selcal code BR-DA, F/F Feb-08-2012, Acceptance date April-25-2012, Delivery flight (DLH748 – EDDF) date : May 01 2012. Post Delivery Maintenance by LH Technik (EDDF). Inaugural flight DLH416 (EDDF-KIAD ) date: June-01-2012.

@ L/N 1444 - 747-87UF, RC575, serial number 37568, Atlas Air #5, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSE, selcal code HM-BQ, F/F November-17-2011, Acceptance date : December-05-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-19-2011.

@ L/N 1445 - 747-87UF, RC576, serial number 37569, Atlas Air #6, full BA World Cargo livery, G-GSSF, selcal code DK-JQ, F/F December-0 5-2011, Acceptance date : December-15-2011, Delivery flight (BAW8307-VHHH) date : Dec-27-2011

@ L/N 1446 - 747-8JA , RC004, serial number 40065 , BBJ customer : Saudi Crown Prince Bin Abdulaziz Al Saud (Saudi Arabian Government ), test registration N458BJ, future registration HZ-HMS1 , white livery, F/F May-30-2012, Acceptance date: June 29-2012, Delivery flight (N458BJ- CYVR-KSBD) date July 9-2012. Owner : Bank of Utah Trustee, Salt Lake City, Utah (Corporation). Stored at San Bernadino . The Future of this aircraft seems to be unsure, because the Prince passed away at October 22-2011. VIP outfitting contract with Jet Aviation (Basel) was cancelled. Ferried, again with call-sign N458BJ, to Lackland AFB TX at October 06-2012. Leased to a new customer or delivery to another member of the Saudi Royal Family ? VIP Cabin outfitting by Gore Design ? See : http://www.goredesign.com/

@ L/N 1447 - 747-867F, RC556, serial number 39243, Cathay #6 , registration B-LJF, full livery, FAL Roll out date November 2, selcal code DR-EJ, F/F December-01-2011, Acceptance and Delivery flight (CPA3337-VHHH)date : December-12-2011.

@ L/N 1448 - 747-8HVF, RC 602, serial number 37581, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #2, registration VQ-BLQ, selcal code FM-DS, full livery, the last assembled 747-8 aircraft in 2011, F/F December-21-2011, Acceptance date Jan-26-2012. Delivery flight (ABW5011- KORD) date : Feb-03-2012.

@ L/N 1449 - 747-8KB , RC005, serial number 37075, BBJ customer Qatar Amiri flight, leased from Lewiston Investments, A7-HJA , selcal CE-JM, white livery, F/F March-31-2012, Acceptance and Delivery flight (A7HJA-CYVR-KIAB) date April -25-2012. Greenpoint Technologies Aeroloft cabin installation completed at Boeing Global Transport & Executive Systems (GTES), Wichita, Kansas. Ferry flight to Basel-Mulhouse(LFSB) at November 09-2012. Cabin outfitting will be done by completion center AMAC at Basel, Switzerland.

@ L/N 1450 - 747-867F, RC557, serial number 39244, Cathay #7, future registration B-LJG, full livery, selcal code LM-AJ, F/F February-11-2012, Acceptance date Feb-25-2012, Delivery flight (CPA3335-VHHH) date Feb-27-2012.

@ L/N 1451 - 747-830, RC023, serial number 37828, , Lufthansa #3, full livery, selcal code CR-DP, D-ABYC, named : Sachsen, F/F June-07-2012, Acceptance date June-30-2012, Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date July-01-2012, PDM by LH Technik at EDDF. First operational Flight DLH418 (EDDF-KIAD) July 25-2012.

@ L/N 1452 - 747-8HVF, RC603, serial number 37668, , AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #3, full livery, test reg. N1788B, registration VQ-BLR, selcal code DK-FS, F/F March-16-2012, Acceptance date : March-30-2012, Delivery flight (ABW4011-KORD) date : April 04-2012.

@ L/N 1453 - 747-830, RC024, serial number 37829, Lufthansa #4 , D-ABYD, named : Mecklenburg-Vorpommern, full livery, KPAE flight line, F/F Aug 01-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date Aug-24-2012, Post Delivery Maintenance (PDM) by LH Technik, First operational flight DLH754 (EDDF-VOBL) September 13-2012.

@ L/N 1454 -747-8R7F, RC505, serial number 35810, Cargolux #5, full livery, name : City of Echternach, registration LX-VCE, selcal AM-JP, F/F May 05 -2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CLX773-KSEA-KLAX-ELLX) date May 24-2012.

@ L/N 1455 - 747-87UF, RC577, serial number 37570, Atlas Air #7, full Panalpina livery, name: Spirit of Panalpina, registration N850GT, selcal code CM-GJ, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, F/F May-15-2012, Acceptance and delivery flight (GTI609-VHHH) date : May-31-2012.

@ L/N 1456 - 747-830, RC025, serial number 37830, Lufthansa #5, D-ABYF, name : Sachsen-Anhalt, selcal code CM-BH, full livery, , F/F Sept-28-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (DLH9875-EDDF) date October-23-2012. Post Delivery Maintenance (PDM)by LH Technik (EDDF). First operational flight DLH418 (EDDF-KIAD) November 09-2012.

@ L/N 1457 - 747-867F, RC558, serial number 39245, Cathay #8, full livery, test registration N6018N, registration B-LJH, F/F June -14-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CPA3337- CYVR)date : July 13 2012.

@ L/N 1458 - 747-87UF, RC578, serial number 37565, Atlas Air #8, Full Panalpina livery, name : Passion for Solutions, registration N851GT, will be operated by Atlas Air for Swiss global forwarder Panalpina, F/F July 12-2012, Acceptance date July 24, Delivery flight (KHSV-GTI9037)date July 25-2012.

@ L/N 1459 - 747-8LQ , RC006, serial number 41060, BBJ customer : According some rumours (not confirmed) : Bahrain Royal Flight, test registration N455BJ, future registration A9C-???, white livery, F/F October 18-2012, Owner : Wells Fargo Bank Northwest NA Trustee Salt Lake City Utah , Acceptance/Delivery flight (N455BJ-CYVR-KAFW-KCNW) date : November 02-2012. Cabin outfitting by L3 Platform Integration at Waco,TX.

@ L/N 1460 - 747-867F, RC559, serial number 39247, Cathay #9, future registration B-LJI, full livery, KPAE Flight line, F/F Aug-20-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CPA3335 - CYVR) date Aug-30-2012.

@ L/N 1461 - 747-8R7F, RC506, serial number 35811, Cargolux #6, registration LX-VCF, full livery, name : City of Grevenmacher, F/F Aug 30-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CLX789-KSEA-ELLX )date Sept 12-2012.

@ L/N 1462 - 747-87UF, RC579, serial number 37571, Atlas Air #9, registration N852GT, full Atlas livery, FAL roll-out Aug 07-2012, F/F September 14-2012, Acceptance date Sept-30-2012 /Delivery flight (GTI9812-KCVG) date October- 02-2012

L/N1463 - 747-8HVF, RC604, serial number 37669, Air Bridge Cargo Airlines (ABC) #4 , test registration N5511Y, VQ-BRH, unpainted with white rudders, F/F Nov-14-2012, KPAE flight line, expected acceptance/delivery flight date : TBD

@L/N1464 - 747-867F, RC560, serial number 39246, Cathay #10, registration B-LJJ, full livery, Roll-out date Sept. 5, F/F October 16-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CPA3335-VHHH) date October 26-2012.

@L/N1465 - 747-8R7F, RC507, serial number 35812, Cargolux #7, full livery, name : City of Diekirch, registration LX-VCG, F/F October 16-2012, Acceptance/Delivery flight (CLX773-KSEA-CYYC-ELLX) date : November 19-2012.

L/N 1466 - 747-8H0, RC007, serial number 39749, Royal Flight Oman, test registration N5511V, future registration A4O-HMS, selcal code FR-AD, white livery, FAL roll-out October 07-2012, F/F November-16-2012, KPAE flight line, Scheduled Acceptance date December 02-2012

L/N 1467 - 747-87UF, RC580, serial number 37572, Atlas Air #10, N853GT, selcal code DK-EL, Polar/DHL Express livery, KPAE flight line, F/F November 26 -2012, Scheduled Acceptance date December 01-2012

L/N 1468 - 747-8ZV, RC008, unknown BBJ customer, unpainted with white rudders, KPAE fight line, Roll-out November 08-2012.

L/N 1469 - 747-8KZF, RC524, serial number 37394, NCA#4, registration JA14KZ, Roll-out November 26-2012, KPAE flight line.
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At this moment : 4 Airframes at the Final Assembly Line (FAL) at Everett Building 40-22
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L/N 1470 - 747-830, RC026, serial number 37831, Lufthansa #6, D-ABYG, scheduled delivery *Jan 31
2013, slant position #1.

L/N 1471 - 747-87UF, RC581, Atlas Air #11, serial number 37566, N854GT, slant position #2.

L/N 1472 - 747-830, RC027, serial number 37832, Lufthansa #7, D-ABYH, scheduled delivery* Feb 28 2013, body join position.

L/N 1473 - 747-8R7F, RC508, serial number 35821, Cargolux #8, registration LX-VCH, wing join position
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Firing order : 15 Airframes , scheduled for Final Assembly (Subject to change).
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L/N 1474 - 747-8B5F, RC547, serial number 37654, KAL#3, HL7617
L/N 1475 - 747-830, RC028, serial number 37833, Lufthansa #8, D-ABYI, scheduled delivery*April 30 2013
L/N 1476 - 747-87UF, RC582, serial number 37567, Atlas Air #12, N855GT
L/N 1477 - 747-830, RC029, serial number 37834, Lufthansa #9, D-ABYJ, scheduled delivery* June 30 2013
L/N 1478 - 747-8R7F, RC509, serial number 35822, Cargolux #9, registration LX-VCI
L/N 1479 - 747-8KZF, RC525, serial number 36139, NCA #5, registration JA15KZ
L/N 1480 - 747-830, RC030, serial number 37835, Lufthansa #10, D-ABYK, scheduled delivery* July 31 2013
L/N 1481 - 747-8B5F, RC548, serial number 37655***, KAL #4
L/N 1482 - 747-8HVF, RC605, serial number 37670, Air Bridge Cargo( ABC) #5
L/N 1483 - 747-867F, RC561 (former RC631), serial number 43394?, Cathay Pacific #11, (leased Air China Cargo?)
L/N 1484 - 747-867F, RC562 (former RC632), Cathay Pacific #12 (leased Air China Cargo?)
L/N 1485 - 747-8KZF, RC526, NCA #6, registration JA16KZ
L/N 1486 - 747-867F, RC563 (former RC633), Cathay Pacific #13 (leased Air China Cargo?)
L/N 1487 - 747-8KZF, RC527, NCA #7, registration JA17KZ, nominal roll-out date August 22-2013.
L/N 1488 - 747-8B5F, RC549, serial number 37656***, KAL #5

? = Not confirmed
*= Only one (1) source : http://lh-taufnamen.de/lufthansa
**= Boeing Customer code not known.
***= extrapolation.

I will try to publish the next updates on the first of each month to stay synchronized with the monthly Boeing delivery publications.

Please feel free to add updates, corrections and remarks by replies in this thread (or by PM).

Cheers, Peter.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7210 posts, RR: 17
Reply 150, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 23059 times:

Quoting 747classic (Reply 149):
2012 (26)

What a year for deliveries, but with most of the BBJ orders apparently fulfilled, we may see a slower year next year.

Quoting 747classic (Reply 149):
Scheduled delivery date was September-30-2012 , but postponed until end of September 2013 or according some rumours 2015 ?

If this one is postponed for as long as it is, will it get a new registration?



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User currently offlineWilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8968 posts, RR: 76
Reply 151, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 23086 times:
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Quoting PHX787 (Reply 150):
If this one is postponed for as long as it is, will it get a new registration?

No, not planned. Why should it? So the D-ABYE will join the fleet later.

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Reply 152, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 23143 times:

Quoting Wilco737 (Reply 151):
Why should it? So the D-ABYE will join the fleet later.

My reasoning was that some airlines, if they're delaying the delivery of a particular airframe, simply assign the reg to the next-in-line aircraft, and so on. But I guess you have a point



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Reply 153, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 23163 times:
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Quoting PHX787 (Reply 152):
My reasoning was that some airlines, if they're delaying the delivery of a particular airframe, simply assign the reg to the next-in-line aircraft, and so on. But I guess you have a point

Maybe they rethink about it when it really comes in 2015. But the 744's weren't delivered as well in the correct order.
We'll see.

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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 10743 posts, RR: 31
Reply 154, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 23137 times:

Quote:
What a year for deliveries, but with most of the BBJ orders apparently fulfilled, we may see a slower year next year.

We will see a lower delivery rate once all the early builds are gone.

Quote:
L/N 1437 - 747-87UF, RC573, serial number 37564, Atlas Air #3 (NTU), white livery with both rudders painted in Atlas livery, stored : Tower Apron KPAE.

RC573 is not at the Tower Apron anymore.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/8232035314/in/photostream



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Reply 155, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 22912 times:

http://paineairport.com/kpae5676.htm

Any guesses on which Sultanate this belongs to?


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Reply 156, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 22839 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 155):
Any guesses on which Sultanate this belongs to?

Qatar



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Reply 157, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 22828 times:

Quoting YVRLTN (Reply 156):
Quoting Hamlet69 (Reply 155):
Any guesses on which Sultanate this belongs to?

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Is this one on the above list or is this one the plane with the unidentified owner?



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User currently offline747classic From Netherlands, joined Aug 2009, 2086 posts, RR: 14
Reply 158, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 22670 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 157):
Is this one on the above list or is this one the plane with the unidentified owner

This must be L/N 1468-RC008, a 747-8ZV (customercode still unknown), because RC007 did fly at December 1.

Customer Qatar Amiri Flight , see reply 2 : A New 747... (by DID747 Dec 2 2012 in Civil Aviation)

or direct : http://www.amiriflight.gov.qa/ look for the logo.

[Edited 2012-12-02 01:54:33]


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User currently offlineLaddie From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 578 posts, RR: 8
Reply 159, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 22514 times:

Delivery flight in Flightaware:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ABW1011

Would this be LN1467 for Polar/DHL Express?


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Reply 160, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 1 day ago) and read 22440 times:

Quoting Laddie (Reply 159):
Delivery flight in Flightaware:
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ABW1011

Would this be LN1467 for Polar/DHL Express?

"ABW" is the call sign indicator of AirBridgeCargo.

The most likely candidate is RC601/VQ-BGZ, one of the early produced airframes. RC604, the other ABC aircraft at the flightline is AFAIK still unpainted.

Aircraft data : L/N 1430 - 747-8HVF, RC601, serial number 37580, AirBridgeCargo Airlines (ABC) #1, registration VQ-BGZ (Volga Dnepr Group) , selcal code AH-KM, full ABC livery, KPAE flight line, F/F Sept-16-2012, Acceptance/ Delivery flight date : TBD



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Reply 161, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 22347 times:

A flight plan for RC522 has been filed.

http://nl.flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE522

Quote:
The most likely candidate is RC601/VQ-BGZ, one of the early produced airframes. RC604, the other ABC aircraft at the flightline is AFAIK still unpainted.
VQ-BGZ delivery flight confirmed http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/275283729465872384

[Edited 2012-12-02 09:43:31]


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Reply 162, posted (1 year 7 months 4 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 22274 times:


Original uploaded by Matt Cawby, see for other sizes : http://www.flickr.com/photos/mi