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ET 787 PAE-ADD Nonstop Delivery Flight  
User currently offlinetjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2435 posts, RR: 3
Posted (1 year 11 months 15 hours ago) and read 9021 times:

Stumbled across this ET 787 operating PAE-ADD nonstop. That's a seriously long flight..... nearly 9000 sm and 15 hours:

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ETH9202


Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
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User currently offlineETinCaribe From Ethiopia, joined Dec 2009, 731 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 14 hours ago) and read 8840 times:

Thanks for sharing tjwgrr. So ET-AOR is finally on her way home. I am surprised ET did not try to make this a one-time rev flight.

User currently offlineCM From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 14 hours ago) and read 8808 times:

PAE-ADD is only around 7,250nm, which the 787-8 is quite capable of - even with significant payload. Empty, the 787-8 can fly around 10,000nm.

User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5410 posts, RR: 4
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 13 hours ago) and read 8644 times:

Quoting CM (Reply 2):
PAE-ADD is only around 7,250nm, which the 787-8 is quite capable of - even with significant payload.

For whatever reason (winds?) their planned route (which the flight appears to be following so far) was far from direct. It's about 7800 nm. Still very well within the bird's capability.


User currently offlinetdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 8376 times:

Quoting tjwgrr (Thread starter):
Stumbled across this ET 787 operating PAE-ADD nonstop. That's a seriously long flight..... nearly 9000 sm and 15 hours:

It's capable of going over 22 hours empty, so certainly within "easy" range for a delivery flight.

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 3):
For whatever reason (winds?) their planned route (which the flight appears to be following so far) was far from direct. It's about 7800 nm.

There's some ugly weather in the mid-Atlantic and it looks like they were picking up a North Atlantic Track.

Tom.


User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12503 posts, RR: 46
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 11 hours ago) and read 8282 times:
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It flew over to the East of London on it's way to Dover this afternoon. Nice.


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User currently offlinethenoflyzone From Canada, joined Jan 2001, 2435 posts, RR: 11
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 2 hours ago) and read 7485 times:

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 3):
For whatever reason (winds?) their planned route (which the flight appears to be following so far) was far from direct

The route was flown more south than on a direct routing in order to take advantage of the jetstream.

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 4):
There's some ugly weather in the mid-Atlantic and it looks like they were picking up a North Atlantic Track

More to do with picking up the jetstream than a NAT track. Airlines regulary cross the north atlantic without being on a NAT track. This is the case for most flights from Europe to the west coast of Canada or California.

Nat tracks are changed daily to take advantage of the jetstream during the evening, or to avoid it during the morning and the early afternoon.

Thenoflyzone



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User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5431 times:

Considering that QF uses old 744s to fly SYD-DFW, EK's DXB-LAX is almost exactly the same distance and flight path and that 737s have been ferried from PAE to Europe non stop, I don't quite see why this is noteworthy. All negativity aside of course..


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 11367 posts, RR: 33
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5363 times:

The CC-BBA (LAN) delivery flight took also about 15 hours.


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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8535 posts, RR: 54
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 5262 times:
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I saw it on FR24 but there was too much cloud to see it, bummer!


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User currently offlinehiflyer From United States of America, joined Nov 2004, 2172 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 5007 times:

seems et likes to stretch the legs on their just delivered aircraft. First ferried IAD then flew revenue to ADD! This next one ferries nonstop ADD.

User currently offlinedbo861 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 886 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 19 hours ago) and read 4488 times:

Quoting something (Reply 7):
737s have been ferried from PAE to Europe non stop

This is possible on a 737? It seems like an extremely long flight for a 737, even for a ferry flight.


User currently offlineCM From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4275 times:

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 11):

PAE-Europe is done all the time on 737 delivery flights. Norwegian and Air Berlin are among those airlines taking current delivery streams and both fly their delivery flights direct to their respective bases.


User currently offlineajd1992 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 4247 times:

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 11):
This is possible on a 737? It seems like an extremely long flight for a 737, even for a ferry flight.

If they remove the seats it increases the range by quite a lot as well. The jetstream also helps extend the range as well. Unloaded a 737 can easily fly 3000nm or so.


User currently offlineRevelation From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 12458 posts, RR: 25
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 17 hours ago) and read 3739 times:

Quoting tdscanuck (Reply 4):
It's capable of going over 22 hours empty, so certainly within "easy" range for a delivery flight.

Seems a few cortisone shots for the numb butts on the flight deck are in order.



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User currently offlinetjwgrr From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2435 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3480 times:

Quoting something (Reply 7):
Considering that QF uses old 744s to fly SYD-DFW, EK's DXB-LAX is almost exactly the same distance and flight path and that 737s have been ferried from PAE to Europe non stop, I don't quite see why this is noteworthy. All negativity aside of course..

Sorry- didn't intend to force you to waste your time by reading the thread I started. I thought it noteworthy since it's a brand new 788 on a long delivery flight....   

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Direct KNOBS, maintain 2700' until established on the localizer, cleared ILS runway 26 left approach.
User currently offlineWildcatYXU From Canada, joined May 2006, 2603 posts, RR: 5
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3418 times:

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 11):
This is possible on a 737? It seems like an extremely long flight for a 737, even for a ferry flight.

NE flew it's 73G nonstop from PAE to PRG as I mentioned here:

Yet Another Long 73G Delivery Flight (by WildcatYXU Mar 19 2007 in Civil Aviation)


User currently offlineCM From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 3340 times:

Quoting tjwgrr (Reply 15):

Don't worry about the people who read and take time posting on threads they don't believe should exist. It's not worth your time. Personally, I find the max (empty) range of airliners pretty interesting, so thanks for bringing it up!


User currently offlinebikerthai From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 2107 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 2883 times:

Quoting dbo861 (Reply 11):
This is possible on a 737? It seems like an extremely long flight for a 737, even for a ferry flight.
Quoting WildcatYXU (Reply 16):

NE flew it's 73G nonstop from PAE to PRG as I mentioned here:

And on special occasions, a 737 ferry flight can do this . . .

http://blog.thenewstribune.com/busin...ion-of-boeing-737-sets-new-record/

"6,506 miles between the two cities non-stop in 13 hours, 7 minutes and 54 seconds"

bt



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User currently offlineTC957 From UK - England, joined May 2012, 852 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 2591 times:

I seem to recall that when Air Mauritius took delivery of their two B762ER's they were delivered non-stop, PAE - MRU, setting a 767 record at the time. Perhaps someone can confirm this.

User currently offlineimiakhtar From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 2529 times:

Quoting TC957 (Reply 19):
I seem to recall that when Air Mauritius took delivery of their two B762ER's they were delivered non-stop, PAE - MRU, setting a 767 record at the time. Perhaps someone can confirm this.

I would be very surprised if that was the case. To the naked eye, MRU seems almost antipodal to PAE.


User currently offlineAMSSFO From Netherlands, joined Feb 2005, 952 posts, RR: 10
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 1940 times:

Quoting TC957 (Reply 19):
I seem to recall that when Air Mauritius took delivery of their two B762ER's they were delivered non-stop, PAE - MRU, setting a 767 record at the time. Perhaps someone can confirm this.
http://www.topspeed.com/aviation/avi...eing/boeing-767-200er-ar86596.html

The 767-200ER became the first 767 to complete a nonstop transatlantic flight, and broke the flying distance record for a twinjet airliner on April 17, 1988, with an Air Mauritius 767-200ER flying 8,727 nautical miles (16,162 km) between Halifax, Nova Scotia and Port Louis, Mauritius


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