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Delta (livery) History Repeated Itself  
User currently offlinerikkus67 From Canada, joined Jun 2000, 1646 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 12477 times:

We all enjoyed the ribbing given to Delta Air Lines about having 3 simultaneous different versions of their livery at the same time. The interesting thing is...it happened before! Doing a random search of 1960's livery, I came across at least a 4-livery variation from 1967 (my birth year)... granted it seems to be more model specific. This was around the start of the well-loved "widget" livery, and like Air Canada...you can appreciate that there was an evolution of the scheme.


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User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8707 posts, RR: 42
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 12408 times:

IIRC, the widget pointed forward on the T-tailed aircraft and upward on the others. But more importantly:
Dear Delta, can we have some retrojets?  



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7908 posts, RR: 51
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11868 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 1):
Dear Delta, can we have some retrojets?  

I would LOVE that. I don't see it happening sadly. You can always see the Spirit of Delta (767-200, widget livery) at the Delta Museum in ATL. They even have a DL DC-3. Pretty cool if you're ever in ATL and you are around during their weird opening hours



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User currently offlinequestions From Australia, joined Sep 2011, 779 posts, RR: 1
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 11838 times:

Similar to AZ's current updated livery, it would have been nice if DL simply updated the 1962-1997 Widget Livery.

User currently offlinemilesrich From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 2000 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 11574 times:

Those were really three different liveries, the DC-9 and DC-8 having the same one, but the horizontal widget being placed on the DC-9. The origin is as follows: DC-7 is in the classic Flying D scheme introduced in the early 1950's with a white crown on the fuselage for lower temperatures while on the ground. All Delta recips had this scheme and were retired with it, the last aircraft to wear the scheme, the Convair 340/440 being retired in 1970.

The Convair 880 was delivered in this livery, which was different than the original DC-8 scheme. However, in the late 60's, the CV-880's were repainted and put in the same livery as the DC-8-51 shown above.

The DC-8-51 is in the original version of what A.netters call the classic livery. The only major change was the change for the fully spelled out "Delta Air Lines" to just "Delta", and the elimination of the small lettered "Fanjet" on the tail. Other than that, this livery graced the DC-8-51, DC-8-33, DC-8-61 (all of which only wore this scheme with Delta), the Convair 880 before retirement, the DC9-10, -32, 31, and MD-88, MD-90, MD-11, DC-10, L-1011, B-727-95, -295, 232, B-737-232, 247, 347, B-767-232, -332, B-757-232, B-747-132, A-310. In 2001, the L-1011's still wore this scheme when they were retired.

The sideways widget was discontinued and was replaced with the more conventional upright Widget, on Douglas and Boeing T-tail aircraft.

I never liked the 1996 of 1997 Ron Allen livery, and many aircraft went from the classic Widget shown above directly to Leo Mullin's wavey Gravy.


User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 20 hours ago) and read 11318 times:

Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 2):
Pretty cool if you're ever in ATL and you are around during their weird opening hours

Any chance they're open this Sunday or Monday?



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39884 posts, RR: 74
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 11231 times:

Quoting aloges (Reply 1):
Dear Delta, can we have some retrojets?

Would be nice if they did their 747-400s in a retro livery instead of a A320 or 737.
The only airline I know of tha has a retro 747 livery is Thai Airways.

Quoting milesrich (Reply 4):
I never liked the 1996 of 1997 Ron Allen livery

That was a tasteful livery change but still not as nice as the previous classic livery.
Every livery since then has just been plane generic and boring.



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User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 11187 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Would be nice if they did their 747-400s in a retro livery instead of a A320 or 737.
The only airline I know of tha has a retro 747 livery is Thai Airways.

They have 16 747s, right? What would be great would be if they did a Heritage/Retro 747 for every airline they merged with and/or bought off a large part of (admittedly mainly so we could have a PA 744,  ). If we run out before we get to 16, then we can backfill the rest of the 747 fleet w/ retro DL & NW liveries. I think that would be boss.



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User currently offlineJosh32121 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 369 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 10962 times:

Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 5):
Any chance they're open this Sunday or Monday?

There's actually an airline collectibles show and sale on Saturday starting at 9:00 (a day they're not usually open). I'll be there! Go here for more information: http://deltamuseum.org/


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39884 posts, RR: 74
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 10913 times:

Quoting Darksnowynight (Reply 7):
What would be great would be if they did a Heritage/Retro 747 for every airline they merged with and/or bought off a large part of (admittedly mainly so we could have a PA 744, ). If we run out before we get to 16, then we can backfill the rest of the 747 fleet w/ retro DL & NW liveries. I think that would be boss.

In that case, let's see Delta do a retro DC-9 in Republic colors.  



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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7521 posts, RR: 23
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 10737 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 9):
In that case, let's see Delta do a retro DC-9 in Republic colors.

Go back a little further in time and revive the Northeast Yellowbird scheme on a DC-9.


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User currently onlinemaxpower1954 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 1097 posts, RR: 7
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 10673 times:

I still think the 45 year old Northeast Yellowbird livery looks fresh and modern. It would fit right into today's world.

User currently offlineGriffAir From United States of America, joined Feb 2006, 51 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 9102 times:

Quoting milesrich (Reply 4):
The only major change was the change for the fully spelled out "Delta Air Lines" to just "Delta", and the elimination of the small lettered "Fanjet" on the tail.

Actually, all DC-8-51's carried the Fanjet logo on the vertical stab (and next to the L1 door) up until the remainder were parked in Oct/Nov 1979. The DC-8-33's from Pan American never had Fanjet on them, since they were older water cooled turbojets. The word "Jetliner" graced a couple of Delta 8's in the same spot as Fanjet. These were the originally delivered DC-8's that were painted in the new livery in 1963 to coincide with the first DC-8-51 (Fanjet) delivery. Once these originals were quickly modified to -51 specs with Fanjets, the logo changed from "Jetliner" to "Fanjet".


User currently offlineCF-CPI From Canada, joined Nov 2000, 1060 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8938 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 6):
Every livery since then has just been plane generic and boring.

I thought the 'Deltaflot' or 'beach towel' livery was distinctive. Too bad it reminded employees of Leo Mullin's management - which they didn't like - and (I'm told) was more expensive to apply than the newer 'Citgo' flying widget.


User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39884 posts, RR: 74
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8847 times:

Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 10):
Go back a little further in time and revive the Northeast Yellowbird scheme on a DC-9.

I am loving that Aeroflot IL-62 in the background as well as that Air Canada Convair(?).

Quoting CF-CPI (Reply 13):
'Citgo' flying widget.

Haha that does look like the Citgo logo.



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User currently offlineWA707atMSP From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 2226 posts, RR: 8
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 8619 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 14):
Quoting PHLBOS (Reply 10):
Go back a little further in time and revive the Northeast Yellowbird scheme on a DC-9.

I am loving that Aeroflot IL-62 in the background as well as that Air Canada Convair(?).

Superfly,

The Air Canada aircraft is a Vickers Vanguard.

The Vanguard was Vickers' successor to the Viscount; it was roughly the size of the Lockheed Electra. Only two airlines, BEA and Trans Canada / Air Canada, took delivery of Vanguards from the factory, but Vanguards were subsequently flown by many other airlines as BEA and AC phased out their fleets.



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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39884 posts, RR: 74
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 8272 times:

Quoting WA707atMSP (Reply 15):
The Air Canada aircraft is a Vickers Vanguard.



Thanks for the correction.
Air Canada should have a retro livery as well. I'm not a fan of the current breath-mint color scheme.



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User currently offlineAeroWesty From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 20640 posts, RR: 62
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7695 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 16):
Air Canada should have a retro livery as well. I'm not a fan of the current breath-mint color scheme.

Like this one?


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User currently offlineAirlineReporter From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 78 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 11 hours ago) and read 7638 times:

It would be great to see a Delta retro livery, but the current CEO does not want to have different liveries in the fleet. Other than SkyTeam and the pink livery, I don't think there are any others?

User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7411 times:

DL could also do what BA did with one of their Concordes; it was painted in BA colours on one side, and SIA colours on the other side! Also AF painted one of theirs in Pepsi Cola colours. I'm sure there are photos on a.net.

User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7521 posts, RR: 23
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7311 times:

Quoting AirlineReporter (Reply 18):
It would be great to see a Delta retro livery, but the current CEO does not want to have different liveries in the fleet. Other than SkyTeam and the pink livery, I don't think there are any others?

Is the Habitat for Humanity scheme still flying around?

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User currently offlineSuperfly From Thailand, joined May 2000, 39884 posts, RR: 74
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 7171 times:

Quoting AeroWesty (Reply 17):
Like this one?

Oh wow. Didn't even know about that one.
I was thinking of the Pierre Elliott Trudeau era livery.

Quoting AirlineReporter (Reply 18):
the pink livery

What on earth is that all about?
I think that is so unattractive.



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User currently offlinePHLBOS From United States of America, joined Mar 2004, 7521 posts, RR: 23
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 6990 times:

Quoting Superfly (Reply 21):
What on earth is that all about?

It's likely in reference to Susan G. Komen and/or Breast Cancer Awareness.



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User currently offlineDarksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1362 posts, RR: 3
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 6772 times:

Quoting Josh32121 (Reply 8):

Damn..., I don't even get in until 4.00P



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User currently offlinedeltadc9 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 2844 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 5750 times:

Quoting AirlineReporter (Reply 18):
It would be great to see a Delta retro livery, but the current CEO does not want to have different liveries in the fleet. Other than SkyTeam and the pink livery, I don't think there are any others?

If true, that is a shame, just one or a few jets would attract a lot of attention IMO. Isn't that the whole point of a livery?



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25 redzeppelin : I saw it parked at a gate at CVG on Tuesday.
26 GSPSPOT : Dear sweet God in heaven, YES! Would KILL to see a DL 747 in that scheme again, like in the good ol' days!!
27 AirlineReporter : Agreed, but I think his view point is keeping the brand recognition. All of us AvGeeks can see all the special liveries and know what airline it belo
28 Viscount724 : The Vanguard was actually quite a bit bigger than the Electra. A few numbers (rounded off) ...........................Vanguard.... Electra Overall le
29 Deltal1011man : no. No retros. Put the hole friggin fleet back into the widget and cut out the cute crap. Not a "update" or "making it fresh".....Find some old dude
30 WA707atMSP : DeltaL1011man, you and I almost NEVER agree, but this is one of those times! Delta's 1970s era paint scheme still looks just as good as it did forty
31 milesrich : I was not just referring to the DC-8-51. The word fanjet was not on the DC-8-33's or the Convair 880 once they were repainted in the widget scheme, b
32 Post contains images GriffAir : Sorry , I read it otherwise. Boy, my bad, was thinking of my Silverado radiator. I'll do better next time. Anyway, great post, you are obviously corr
33 Post contains links and images zippyjet : The beloved widget came with the arrival of the DC-8. Actually a couple years into their service. Around the early 1960's. At first, DL 8's had this
34 Yukon880 : Miles, So very close to precise... A total of six DC-8-11s (later converted to -12s) delivered to Delta in the original batch, all of which were deli
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