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787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 10  
User currently offlinewilco737 From Greenland, joined Jun 2004, 8890 posts, RR: 76
Posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 60424 times:
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Part 9 got rather long:

787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 9 (by wilco737 Sep 18 2012 in Civil Aviation)

So now part 10 available.

Enjoy and have fun.

wilco737
  


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 8694 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 60550 times:



And the press release: http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2438



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29653 posts, RR: 84
Reply 2, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 60460 times:
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And there was much rejoicing....

...yay...


Anyway, here is the current delivery report (thanks to UNITED787):


2011: 03
L/N 08 - JA801A - 9/25/2011 - NH #1
L/N 24 - JA802A - 10/13/2011 - NH #2
L/N 31 - JA805A - 12/30/2011 - NH #3

2012: 25
L/N 41 - JA807A - 1/12/2012 - NH #4
L/N 09 - JA804A - 1/13/2012 - NH #5
L/N 23 - JA822J - 3/25/2012 - JL #1
L/N 33 - JA825J - 3/25/2012 - JL #2
L/N 40 - JA806A - 3/29/2012 - NH #6
L/N 42 - JA808A - 4/14/2012 - NH #7
L/N 37 - JA826J - 4/25/2012 - JL #3
L/N 38 - JA827J - 4/25/2012 - JL #4
L/N 47 - JA809A - 6/20/2012 - NH #8
L/N 48 - JA810A - 6/24/2012 - NH #9
L/N 56 - JA812A - 6/30/2012 - NH #10
L/N 51 - JA811A - 7/16/2012 - NH #11
L/N 49 - ET-AOQ - 8/14/2012 - ET #1
L/N 07 - JA803A - 8/20/2012 - NH #12
L/N 68 - CC-BBA - 8/28/2012 - LA #1
L/N 67 - JA813A - 8/30/2012 - NH #13
L/N 70 - JA828J - 9/4/2012 - JL #5
L/N 35 - VT-ANH - 9/6/2012 - AI #1
L/N 29 - VT-AND - 9/18/2012 - AI #2
L/N 53 - N20904 - 9/22/2012 - UA #1
L/N 69 - JA814A - 9/23/2012 - NH #14
L/N 27 - JA824J - 9/24/2012 - JL #6
L/N 66 - JA815A - 9/30/2012 - NH #15
L/N 71 - ET-AOR - 10/3/2012 - ET #2
L/N 46 - VT-ANI – 10/5/2012 - AI #3 (I am guessing ANI was delivered today, but it might have been ANJ)

[Edited 2012-10-05 07:35:24]

User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 8694 posts, RR: 29
Reply 3, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 60400 times:

VT-ANI indeed, VT-ANJ is still in Ft. Worth.


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5666 posts, RR: 47
Reply 4, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 60371 times:

Boeing has pulled out another 787 from the CHS final assembly...L/N 65 and is on the flight line in pre-flight. More activity at the EMC too.


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User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 8694 posts, RR: 29
Reply 5, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 60266 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 4):
Boeing has pulled out another 787 from the CHS final assembly...L/N 65 and is on the flight line in pre-flight. More activity at the EMC too.

And that was to last one that needed change incorporation. CHS can now move towards 1 roll-out a month.



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6940 posts, RR: 18
Reply 6, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 60115 times:

Quoting KarelXWB (Reply 1):

Never thought we'd see this scene   

Quoting Stitch (Reply 2):
L/N 66 - JA815A - 9/30/2012 - NH #15

So 15 so far with NH in one year. Not bad at all. Not bad at all indeed. Good to hear ANA getting great reviews so far for their product. My buddy flew on this flight from Hiroshima to Tokyo and he said he wanted to stay on board the plane and fly back to Hiroshima, it was that good for him.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5666 posts, RR: 47
Reply 7, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 60016 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 6):
So 15 so far with NH in one year. Not bad at all. Not bad at all indeed. Good to hear ANA getting great reviews so far for their product. My buddy flew on this flight from Hiroshima to Tokyo and he said he wanted to stay on board the plane and fly back to Hiroshima, it was that good for him.

ANA didn't get 15 787s for far this year. They got three last year and 12 this year so far.



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5666 posts, RR: 47
Reply 8, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 59986 times:

Got as new post up with updates to 787 production.


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User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12400 posts, RR: 100
Reply 9, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 59940 times:
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Quoting NYC777 (Reply 7):
Quoting PHX787 (Reply 6):
So 15 so far with NH in one year. Not bad at all. Not bad at all indeed. Good to hear ANA getting great reviews so far for their product. My buddy flew on this flight from Hiroshima to Tokyo and he said he wanted to stay on board the plane and fly back to Hiroshima, it was that good for him.

ANA didn't get 15 787s for far this year. They got three last year and 12 this year so far.

I think he meant 15 in the preceding 12 months, which is what has indeed happened. OK, 12 months and 5 days...   

Lightsaber



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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6940 posts, RR: 18
Reply 10, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 59784 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 7):
ANA didn't get 15 787s for far this year. They got three last year and 12 this year so far.
Quoting lightsaber (Reply 9):
I think he meant 15 in the preceding 12 months, which is what has indeed happened. OK, 12 months and 5 days...

   i should've been more specific



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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5666 posts, RR: 47
Reply 11, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 59289 times:

Boeing just emailed me...they have delivered the the first 787 to Qatar Airways today. They've delivered 29 787s to 7 customers thus far. See my blog post for updated information and tables.


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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 29653 posts, RR: 84
Reply 12, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 7 hours ago) and read 59190 times:
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Nice. So each FAL delivered a plane today.   

User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5666 posts, RR: 47
Reply 13, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 58977 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 12):
Nice. So each FAL delivered a plane today.

Yes but the Qatar plane will remain at Everett for a cople more weeks.



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User currently onlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5077 posts, RR: 4
Reply 14, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 58988 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 12):
Nice. So each FAL delivered a plane today.

Even better, the two deliveries were two of the higher-risk deliveries planned for this month.



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User currently offlinemffoda From United States of America, joined exactly 4 years ago today! , 1016 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 58855 times:

Well it certainly looks like Boeing with easily hit their 787 delivery numbers this year... Nice!


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User currently offlineNYC777 From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 5666 posts, RR: 47
Reply 16, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 58814 times:

The deliveries thus far are following close to the plan that RobK sent a few days ago (removed by the mods). Look for LAN and Ethiopian to take the next couple of planes but not for another couple of weeks. Deliveries are planned for QR and AI in about two weeks as well.


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User currently offlineMSN007 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 124 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 57675 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 16):
The deliveries thus far are following close to the plan that RobK sent a few days ago (removed by the mods). Look for LAN and Ethiopian to take the next couple of planes but not for another couple of weeks. Deliveries are planned for QR and AI in about two weeks as well.

Where is A.net hosted in North Korea?


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 6940 posts, RR: 18
Reply 18, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days 1 hour ago) and read 57656 times:

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 16):
The deliveries thus far are following close to the plan that RobK sent a few days ago (removed by the mods). Look for LAN and Ethiopian to take the next couple of planes but not for another couple of weeks. Deliveries are planned for QR and AI in about two weeks as well.

I'm curious to know why it was deleted. Did he suggest delete it?

Quoting MSN007 (Reply 17):
Where is A.net hosted in North Korea?

Is that where he is?   

Quoting NYC777 (Reply 11):
Boeing just emailed me...they have delivered the the first 787 to Qatar Airways today. They've delivered 29 787s to 7 customers thus far. See my blog post for updated information and tables.

Good news but like AI i gotta see it in Qatar in order for me to believe this  



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User currently offlineJoeCanuck From Canada, joined Dec 2005, 5318 posts, RR: 30
Reply 19, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 5 days ago) and read 57461 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 2):
And there was much rejoicing....

...yay...

Thanks for the chortle.



What the...?
User currently offlineSomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3173 posts, RR: 3
Reply 20, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 56378 times:

According to an article in the Norwegian press, the first aircraft to Norwegian will be LN102....although the info should be taken with a grain of salt

User currently offlineaeroblogger From India, joined Dec 2011, 1363 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 56290 times:

VT-ANI isn't expected to fly out from CHS until next week.


Airports 2012: IXE HYD DEL BLR BOM CCU KNU KTM BKK SIN ICN LAX BUR SFO PHX IAH ORD EWR PHL PVD BOS FRA MUC IST
User currently offlinefleabyte From Brazil, joined Jan 2010, 84 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 55590 times:

Line 40-26
looking at the master delivery chart on all things 787, it seems like (3) 787 will soon come out of line 40-26
LAN ln80 and Hainan ln79 in position 4 and LOT ln78 that is in position 3, but has already been in position 4
so there are 6 new frames in all the positions now and UA ln77 outside

Line 40-24
It looks like they must get JAL ln21 finished with change incorporation before they can move JAL 84 past position 2. Currently listed that JAL ln21 (rework) in position 3 and JAL 84 (new) in position 1 {I think that line 40-24 does not have a position 4}
so there is 1 new frame in the position here so far, and 1 rework left to move out

Line 88-3
5 frames in all positions 0,1,2,3,4 and Air India ln65 outside now

UA ln50 just out of rework, does anyone have any idea when UA ln45,52,55 will get out of re-work?

All this activity seems like it will result in a lot of deliveries in Oct to end of December.


User currently offlineKarelXWB From Netherlands, joined Jul 2012, 8694 posts, RR: 29
Reply 23, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 55446 times:

Quoting fleabyte (Reply 22):
It looks like they must get JAL ln21 finished with change incorporation before they can move JAL 84 past position 2. Currently listed that JAL ln21 (rework) in position 3 and JAL 84 (new) in position 1 {I think that line 40-24 does not have a position 4}
so there is 1 new frame in the position here so far, and 1 rework left to move out

LN80 went through the surge line so LN21 should not create a bottleneck. And there is indeed no 4th position available for the surge line, both lines share position 4 in the 40-26 building.

[Edited 2012-10-06 07:47:18]


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User currently onlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5077 posts, RR: 4
Reply 24, posted (1 year 6 months 1 week 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 55270 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 18):
Good news but like AI i gotta see it in Qatar in order for me to believe this

When it comes from Boeing PR (as this news did), you should believe it.



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25 Post contains images sweair : 3 so far for October( could have been 10 for september), there should be at least 2 more LAN+ET, both have flown. Wild cards, QR#2 has flown, AI #4 ha
26 KarelXWB : I don't think it's physically possible to put two frames into the same position, but I have no idea how big that building really is. The big question
27 PHX787 : I guess you're right but this is notwithstanding issues with the Qatar government. Boeing can't necessarily do anything about that.
28 Rheinbote : The first 787-9 is LN126
29 sweair : If they go 14 a month the 7810 might arrive sooner? Some of 789 orders may be converted for 7810 just as some 788 orders have been converted to 789 or
30 Post contains images Rheinbote : What makes you believe that the figure floating around for LN20 is more accurate? The target that was in place for LN7 may no longer be valid. The ba
31 fleabyte : ah ok, now I understand, I think.... LN80 now at 40-26 position 4 came from 40-24 position 2 and skipped 40-24 position 3 (now occupied by JAL ln21) -
32 tdscanuck : It's not, but if you don't actually need to work on the frame at the moment (i.e. you don't need the line tooling or support infrastructure) it's pos
33 KarelXWB : No, LN80 went trough the whole surge line, so positions 1, 2 and 3. Then it moved to position 4 in the 40-26 building. The JAL frame is currently at
34 SCL767 : Good news, now CC-BBC is in the paint hangar.
35 BlueSky1976 : @NYC777: I wanted to add a small correction to your list, regarding delivery date of SP-LRA. November 15 is the date of arrival at Warsaw; the actual
36 fleabyte : No, LN80 went trough the whole surge line, so positions 1, 2 and 3. Then it moved to position 4 in the 40-26 building. The JAL frame is currently at p
37 Post contains links afriwing : Not seen this mentioned here. Matt Cawby tweeted this youtube video of the Boeing Everett Flightline. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q5wE7ue-ZTk&f
38 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : The 40-24 building has 4 positions. According to Randy's article the surge line uses 3 of them, so LN21 must be at position 4 for rework. [Edited 201
39 mgmacius : It looks to me, that third position is doubled - don't know why, but that's how it looks - from your quote: "airplanes will be staged in a slanted ar
40 fleabyte : thanks for the diagram, I can see how they can put a few frames to the side and not at the assembly stations with the tooling, that is probably why th
41 sweair : Is LN21 still in 40-24? We seem to assume that, but can anyone confirm really? I guess a part of rework is dismantling everything that needs to be cha
42 flightsimer : Are all the buildings physically separated or is the transportation aisle inside of the building(s)?
43 NYC777 : That information is correct. I have it in 40-24.
44 Post contains links 747classic : For all 787 twin fans (don't include me), Jon Ostrower uploaded today (October 7) 143 photos of the 787 Final Assembly Line (Pictures were shot during
45 Post contains images aeroblogger : VT-ANI is ready for flyout tomorrow! 3PM departure via FRA as usual.
46 kanban : it's essentially one building with both cross aisles 20-25 ft wide and longitudinal aisles 10-12 ft wide on each side of the a/c the crane tracks run
47 tdscanuck : It's not scaffolding, it's fixed tooling. The assembly process of the 777 is radically different from the 787 and a huge amount of monument tooling i
48 pygmalion : The 40-25 and 40-26 buildings are 50 feet wider than the others. Both buildings were both originally constructed in 1991 for 777 production but in the
49 aeroblogger : VT-ANI is on its way to DEL from CHS via FRA as AIC170. With 3 787s operational, Air India will enter phase 2 of the familiarization plan, with servic
50 seabosdca : Do you know why they bother with the FRA stop? CHS-DEL nonstop is easily manageable by a 788 with just a few people on board.
51 aeroblogger : There are a couple reasons... Firstly, AI has been hauling cargo from CHS on delivery flights. Secondly, FRA is the European dispatch center for Air
52 pygmalion : a lot of time the stop is to allow the ground ops people a chance to familiarize themselves with the new airplane they will be turning around later. I
53 aklrno : I'm trying to picture how this works. If an aircraft is in the way can the overhead cranes pick up a nearly finished 787 and move it over the blockin
54 kanban : no they attach a tow bar and tow the plane either with a tug or a forklift for smaller models. generally they pull the one closest to the door out, t
55 tdscanuck : No. Like kanban said, they tow them. The overhead cranes can lift major sections (a wing, a fuselage) but they don't lift entire airplanes. Tom.
56 Post contains links KarelXWB : And re-fuelling. http://www.thehindu.com/business/companies/article3874486.ece
57 Post contains links and images PHX787 : Question: where is this guy gonna go? JL? He's been sitting here in the old livery for a while: View Large View MediumPhoto © Royal S King
58 KarelXWB : LN21 / ZA176 is currently inside the 40-24 building for rework and is still allocated to JAL. The rework on the oldest frames can take up to 8 months,
59 sweair : Over at paine field blog there is a picture of the old JAL tail besdies UAs LN50. At EMC that is.
60 Post contains links KarelXWB : It looks like LN79 / ZA432 is finally outside. http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/8072979128/in/photostream
61 nyc777 : LN 798 is outside at the 40-51 ramp. LN 78 is in paint and LN 80 is in 40-26 position 4. LN 86 loads in 40-26 position 1 tomorrow. Expect to see one 7
62 Post contains links blueflyer : VT-ANJ left FTW back to CHS yesterday. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE238
63 Post contains images flyglobal : Wow, a great source of pictures. When I visited the Boeing Factory in May, I was not allowed to 'share thoughts' and 'propose improvements' ha ha - ou
64 nyc777 : Got a new post up regarding 787 production.
65 Stitch : Boeing doesn't mind professional photographers snapping pictures of the production line. They don't allow tour attendees to do so for liability and F
66 KarelXWB : They don't, same policy.
67 Post contains images Rheinbote : Clueless in Seattle Can't believe that. Time to fire a few people in communications and security. Edit: I retract that remark, please keep the photos
68 dash8pilot : Any updates on the Qr planes? Will A7-BCL be delievered before A7-BCB??
69 NYC777 : This plane has already been delivered.
70 United787 : 29 Delivered to 7 Airlines Deliveries Prior to October: NH - 15; JL - 6; AI - 2; ET - 1; LA - 1; UA - 1 October Deliveries to Date: L/N 71 - ET-AOR -
71 sweair : Everett has had bad weather or low clouds, being so close to the ocean must be a reason? But Charleston should have a better climate this time of the
72 Stitch : The weather in the Puget Sound area has been very nice for months. Only in the last two days have we had overcast and today is the first noticeable r
73 7BOEING7 : After the B1 flight which has specific weather restrictions the only weather conditions that generally prevent production flights are fog (ccontinous
74 Post contains links ual747-600 : A good 787 B-1 flight day. ZA511 and ZA382 are flying today. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE382 http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE511 UAL74
75 sweair : Anyone know why Charleston is so slow in test flights? Not much happening there at all?
76 817Dreamliiner : Glad to see ZA382 finally flying!
77 flightsimer : Which l/n's and for what customer were 382 and 511? P.s. I thought we decided to stick with just using L/N's in reporting and not the variable number?
78 sweair : China Southern the one with the nice livery and ANAs 16th frame.
79 817Dreamliiner : ZA382 is China Southern B-2727 ZA511 is ANA JA816A I thought this as well...
80 United787 : ZA511 = L/N 63 - JA816A - NH #16 ZA382 = L/N 43 - B-2727 - CZ #1 Edit: 817Dreamliner beat me to the post![Edited 2012-10-12 13:54:18]
81 flightsimer : Thank you!
82 NYC777 : Boeing sent up three 787s today with a break in the weather. Hopefully the weather will cooperate in the coming week but the forecast for the week doe
83 7BOEING7 : The percentage of delivery delays caused by weather over the years at the Boeing Puget Sound facilities is extremely small. As long as it isn't foggy
84 Post contains images seabosdca : Around here, we have low clouds all the damn time, but fog only a few days a year.
85 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Pics of B-2727 and JA816A after their B1 flights: http://kpae.blogspot.co.uk/2012/10/paine-field-october-12.html
86 Post contains images KarelXWB : JAL will introduce a special livery for its 787 aircraft:
87 sweair : Nice, I think their livery is the most boring ever otherwise, I hate this era of euro white, is it a mirror of the boring reality that we live in sin
88 Post contains links SeJoWa : http://paineairport.com/kpae5470.htm That's a beautiful bird! The contrast with ANA's Dreamliner couldn't be more stark..
89 PHX787 : Wow what a beauty!
90 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : I think this is the same special livery but with the current livery?: http://www.flightglobal.com/blogs/fl...picture-first-jal-787-to-wear.html EDIT:
91 Post contains links Stitch : Additional information - http://www.animenewsnetwork.com/inte...strated-by-hayao-miyazaki-and-kids
92 milestones787 : Is this new addition to the JAL 787 livery a decal or paint?
93 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : Just found a video of JA828J at HND: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4_mUFyJD4I
94 max550 : Any update on LN #77, the second aircraft for UA? Any idea what the latest date it could be delivered without messing up the first flights on 11/4? I'
95 AirMailer : Anyone know when those Royal Air Maroc birds are due to get worked on? Are they going to be dead-last of the re-works?
96 Post contains links SCL767 : Royal Air Maroc has indicated that it will receive its first 787 in December 2014: Royal Air Maroc confirms 787 schedule, may exercise one option
97 Hamlet69 : That's funny - I was just thinking about those frames just the other day. . . Based on the article SCL767 linked to, the short answer to your questio
98 seabosdca : I could swear I remember reading somewhere that RAM will get new builds. My impression is that all 10 of the "terrible teens" will be taken by Lion a
99 Hamlet69 : You may very well be right. I also remember reading that Lion will be taking some of the early frames, and potentially Transaero as well. However, I
100 Post contains links frigatebird : Yes, that is my understanding also. In another article it was said RAM will get 787s "with better specs". So those must be new builds. IIRC, it was t
101 Post contains links SCL767 : L/N 74 CC-BBB will preform another test flight today: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE537
102 UA767400 : Any info about United's second 787 that is supposed to be delivered?
103 Post contains links SCL767 : CC-BBB returning to KPAE from its test flight: http://www.flickr.com/photos/sabian404/8096171673/in/photostream/
104 aeroblogger : Has LN77 taken its first flight yet?
105 Post contains links SCL767 : L/N 74 CC-BBB recently completed yet another test flight: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE537 Video of CC-BBB practicing a rejected landing and
106 Post contains links SCL767 : LAN's second B-787 CC-BBB (L/N 74) is scheduled for delivery today. According to ALL THINGS 787, CC-BBB is "ready for delivery". CC-BBB at KPAE depart
107 Post contains images RAGAZZO777 : That's great ! Congrats to Boeing & LAN ! Now that LAN is going to operate 2 Boeing 787, LIM will see daily Dreamliner flights, right ?
108 Post contains images SCL767 : Yes, the SCL-LIM route will receive daily 787 operated flights as early as next week. The flights are loaded as A-320 operated flights; but they are
109 sweair : Where does it say that LANs frame will deliver today? I see a lot of guessing but no firm confirmations?!
110 kanban : Big PR deals are limited to first of a model, first to a customer, a historic number (say 1000 units), multiple units/models delivered on one day, (g
111 Post contains images KELPkid : Wow, that photo is a.net worthy
112 NYC777 : Two potential first flights today: ZA270 (for Polish LOT) and ZA290 (for UA) are supposed to make their B-1 flights today. Stay tuned....
113 Post contains links sky : Just recived this photo, http://sphotos-c.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...1_249191935203779_1571001757_n.jpg So the Lot is Air borne for his first flight.
114 NYC777 : Look for Boeing to start making an aggressive push to getting 787 and 747s in the air over the next few days. A few B-1 flights coming up.
115 aeroblogger : Did ZA290 ever go up?
116 NYC777 : No, most likely tomorrow. Is Air India planning to take its fourth 787 within the next week?[Edited 2012-10-18 18:21:48]
117 aeroblogger : Not to my knowledge. Some time in the last week of October (Oct 29-31) was the last I heard, but I haven't seen any updates in a few days.
118 Post contains links BlueSky1976 : Video of Lot Polish Airlines 787's first flight: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KeztGS7J_og Boy, she looks gorgeous!
119 sweair : Does Charlestons test flight show up? Very little activity there IMO? They have 3 frames on flight line, only one has flown. Did things slow down ther
120 NYC777 : They do show up but given they're delivering at less than 1 per month flight test activity is going to be slow. Also delivery activity is currently g
121 sweair : I wonder if the coming AI deliveries will be smoother or will every one be a hassle? They even had to fix the financial deal last time.. It must be em
122 NYC777 : One has to wonder.
123 tarheelwings : Was the LAN 787 delivered? How about the Ethiopian bird that's listed as ready? Thanks in advance. Alex
124 AMX748 : Does somebody know which number have the AMX frames and aproximate delivery dates? I've remember, if not wrong, that the first 787 will come for AM in
125 aklrno : 787.blogspot.com is reporting that the first AM 787 is fifth in line to start assembly at Everett. Suggests that it will be delivered in 2 or 3 months
126 Post contains images PEET7G : Beautiful, I can only envy the Polish aviation enthusiasts for living to see the day when this beauty will join LOT's fleet. I think LOT's livery mig
127 Post contains links and images seahawks7757 : I don't know, that is tough to say, LAN took a little bit to grow on me, but now I love it. Same with Uniteds. http://www.flickr.com/photos/seahawk..
128 sweair : I think China Southern has the most amazing livery on the 787, LAN is second. Its a pretty aircraft, it grew on me and now I think all old ones look
129 Post contains links BlueSky1976 : A much better video of LO 787's first takeoff, courtesy of Lot Polish Airlines YT channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=
130 Post contains images AMX748 : Thank you so much!!! Kind regards
131 Post contains links kanban : For those wondering about the lack of B and C flights from Paine Field, attached is a snippet of the weather just down the hill from the plant (note p
132 seabosdca : Very odd weather in the Puget Sound area today. Didn't see a waterspout from my South Seattle location, but there was a hailstorm with BB-sized hail a
133 PHX787 : Waterspouts in seattle.....well then again, a hurricane ran over Ohio in 2008 so I'm not terribly surprised.
134 sweair : There was quite the activity yesterday at Everett, B1 for UAs LN77, B2 for Qatar LN64 and B1 for Hainan LN73. They have had to resort to putting prefl
135 Post contains links KarelXWB : LN34 / ZA380 for China Southern is now outside the EMC with attached engines. http://www.flickr.com/photos/airline...107140849/in/photostream/lightbox
136 Post contains links ual747-600 : LN 60 ZA239 AI is up out of KCHS on B1 flight. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/BOE239 UAL747-600[Edited 2012-10-21 06:15:05]
137 Rheinbote : I wouldn't be surprised at all if coming Wednesday Boeing would announce that rate break to 5 per month has been successfully implemented in final ass
138 Revelation : Not necessarily: the LNs aren't strictly sequential, and coming out the door 5/month is throughput, not latency. 9 fertile and adequately provisioned
139 aklrno : Line numbers are by definition pretty close to sequential. In any case, for the last couple of years the 787 line has been sequential except for the
140 dkny : Was ET-AOS delivered. How come nobody reported it?
141 NYC777 : Trying to confirm the Ethiopian delivery. It hasn't flown away yet.
142 NYC777 : This aircraft has not been delivered as of this morning. This is confirmed.
143 milestones787 : How about the LAN aircraft that was to be delivered on Oct. 18th?
144 catdaddy63 : Busy day for test flights from PAE today. ZA261 for ET and ZA460 are headed to MWH on their B1 flights. ZA511 for NH is conducting her B2, also enrout
145 United787 : Looks like that expected short break in deliveries is about to end with a plethora of deliveries on the horizon, 12 aircraft on the flightline have al
146 NYC777 : Thsi too has not been delivered as of this morning.
147 SCL767 : CC-BBB should be delivered to LAN on 24OCT12 or 25OCT12.
148 kanban : I thought QR took delivery and sent the plane south for post delivery work.... or are we counting only when it flies home?
149 Stitch : A7-BCB is considered delivered, but I believe it's the only one to date for QR.
150 kanban : my fault misread the section titles
151 NYC777 : Yes they took delivery of one plane which is currently in Victorville, Ca for IFE repairs. It'll go back the Everett for a formal handover ceremony b
152 Post contains links dkny : Looks like it's headed home anytime now. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ETH9201
153 Revelation : Upon further review, it seems you are correct. Thankfully, the 787 line is becoming much more straight forward than it was in the earlier times so it
154 starrion : Since it looks like the momentum is picking up, with a sizable number of pre-ln66 frames having flown, it would appear that some breathing space is go
155 AirMailer : @NYC7*7 if I read your page correctly there is no plane sitting in position #2 in 40-26 and no plane in position #3 in 40-24. Is that correct or am I
156 aklrno : I'm really not using any of those numbers. All I did was look at the latest to be delivered or ready to deliver, subtract that number from the LN in
157 7BOEING7 : If this has been dicussed before, disregard. The numbers work like this--there are about 20 working days a month on average for the year--no weekends,
158 Revelation : OK, and perhaps one should add to that the (minimum) 12 days it takes to get the given frame through the production line, and then some estimate of t
159 Post contains links KarelXWB : Another test flight: http://nl.flightaware.com/live/fligh...9/history/20121024/1930Z/KMWH/KPAE Which frame is ZA209?
160 ual747-600 : I beleve it's a mistake. Should be ZA290 which is UA. UAL747-600
161 Post contains links KarelXWB : Thanks for clearing that up. In other news, LN65 / ZA240 (the 4th CHS frame) is scheduled to make its first flight today http://nl.flightaware.com/liv
162 NYC777 : Didn't fly today, most likely had taxi tests.
163 RAGAZZO777 : Was CC-BBB delivered to LAN today ?!?!
164 SCL767 : Nope. Thus far, only N778LA was delivered this week. CC-BBB should arrive at SCL by this weekend. Regardless, scheduled 787 service on the SCL-LIM ro
165 Stitch : Weather and ceiling have been atrocious at times today. Currently watching a monsoon out my window.
166 NYC777 : Well that fine if ZA240 was in Everett but this aircraft is in Charleston!
167 Post contains images kanban : it's a big storm!
168 7BOEING7 : The weather at both Charleston and Paine was more than adequate for any Boeing flight. If a flight plan was filed as noted on flightaware and it didn'
169 KarelXWB : CC-BBC (LN80 / ZA538) is now out of the paint hangar.
170 Ronaldo747 : Beside of the first two delivered and special colored frames, which of them are in international and domestic config? What's about it with the next d
171 Post contains links KarelXWB : NH has 4 configurations for the 787: 264 / 335 seats for domestic flights and 158 / 222 seats for international flights. 264 seats JA801A, JA802A, JA8
172 Post contains links hmelawyer : ZA239/LN60 (3rd Charleston 788) is en route to Fort Worth for painting. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...9/history/20121025/1345Z/KVQQ/KFTW It s
173 Post contains links WarpSpeed : Reading through the article linked below, the reporter cites a reliable Boeing source that says a frame was delivered to LAN on Weds. http://seattlet
174 Post contains images SCL767 : It looks great! Maybe LAN has already taken delivery of CC-BBB, but it's still at KPAE. Hopefully CC-BBB will arrive at SCL by Saturday. Next week, L
175 sonomaflyer : What is also great to see is how rapidly Boeing engineers and mechanics are improving production techniques on the 787. Should demand warrant it, Boei
176 Post contains images RAGAZZO777 : LIM is more than ready for the 787 !
177 PHX787 : Thanks for the info! But your link doesn't show the layout for the 335 seaters...how are those arranged?
178 Post contains links 817Dreamliiner : You could have just removed the s from https to get the link working: http://www.ana.co.jp/dom/inflight/seatmap/b8p/ The configuration is 12/323 in 2
179 Post contains images SCL767 : Yep, Gate 22 at LIM is for LAN's 787!
180 Post contains images Ronaldo747 : Thank you very much, Karel! [Edited 2012-10-25 10:44:24]
181 Post contains images PHX787 : Thanks for this- good Japanese practice for me Hmm that looks like a crowded 787. Is this operated on the HND-ITM routes?
182 Post contains links and images KarelXWB : Yeah, they also have a 777-300 with 514 seats and a 747-400D with 565 seats. You want a crowded plane? There is plenty of choice in the NH fleet! htt
183 ETinCaribe : Nice!! And almost a week ahead of schedule. Congrats ET and Boeing.
184 Post contains images SCL767 : CC-BBB has been delivered to LAN and is scheduled to arrive at SCL at 10:00 CLST tomorrow!
185 Post contains links ual747-600 : Looks like LN64 ZA463 Qatar A7-BCL is on a C-1 flight. Does anyone know? That might mean there's hope for delivery this month for installation of cust
186 7BOEING7 : I think the C-1 was on the 20th (based on the profile). I'm guessing this is a C-2 cleaning up any issues from the C-1.
187 NYC777 : I need to get confirmation of hte delivery which I just received. Until I know it has been delivered I don't show it until I get positive confirmatio
188 Post contains links SCL767 : CC-BBB is scheduled to depart KPAE at 18:10 PDT: http://flightaware.com/live/flight/LAN1315
189 tdscanuck : Demand absolutely warrants it. Boeing has plans (and has had for years) to go well beyond the current production rate even if they never sell another
190 Post contains links SCL767 : Video of CC-BBB delivery flight to SCL: http://youtu.be/E3e3r2nrvec CC-BBB ready for takeoff: http://www.flickr.com/photos/38619847@N05/8123907233/ Th
191 NYC777 : When they start selling the -10 they'll absolutely need to increase the rate ebven though the first one won't be delivered for another 6 years or so,
192 NYC777 : This is may be a C-1 flight. Boeing has conducted at least two Boeing test flights (if not more) before going ahead with customer acceptance flights
193 WarpSpeed : There's no doubting 787demand and Boeing's desire to increase production, its the ability of the supplier base to manage rate increases that will be
194 7BOEING7 : For all Boeing airplanes the B-1 and C-1 flights are basically the same profile lasting about 2 1/2 hours--the C-1 generally a little longer. If you
195 Post contains images WarpSpeed : Jon Ostrower tweeted about an hour ago that delivery of United's second 787 is delayed and that some planned 787 flights will be flown by other aircr
196 SonomaFlyer : Disappointing for UA but not surprising after four(ish) years of delays....
197 sweair : There was a week or more in okt with no activity, after a really good sept I guess they needed a rest? Can you blame that inactivity on weather really
198 Stitch : We've had heavy rain here in Seattle and the ceiling has looked pretty low, the latter being an issue for Boeing Bx and Cx flights as it could very w
199 7BOEING7 : The B-1 flights are the ones that are most effected by weather because they have higher ceiling and visibilty requirements for their initial takeoff.
200 sweair : Maybe they could set up a flight line in Grant, All B1s end there and stay until delivery? There seems to be better weather inland? That would also e
201 KELPkid : I would imagine that customer flights have minimums, too (probably determined by the customer's op spec)
202 tdscanuck : They could, but it would drastically slow down the delivery process. All the spares, engineers, contract, marketing, sales, and factory support to qu
203 Post contains images Stitch : If the minimums at PAE are not sufficient for a B1 departure, one can't get the plane to MWH. Seriously, PAE has worked for decades and weather-relat
204 7BOEING7 : Actually the customer flights, since the airplane still belongs to Boeing and a Boeing pilot is in charge, operate to the same minimums as the Boeing
205 tdscanuck : That may be customer policy, in which case the OEM would probably comply, but the customers' OpsSpec has no authority over Boeing operations (custome
206 7BOEING7 : The B-1 has special takeoff requirements only.
207 HAWK21M : Whats with the PACK snags on the AI B787s.
208 aeroblogger : Not sure about those, but AI MX has been struggling with electrical issues too. I wonder if it is the same issue as UA is facing.
209 SonomaFlyer : Could someone define this term for us please?
210 Post contains links NYC777 : Boeing has ZA240 (for Air India) up on its B-1 flight. Flying south and west away from the Atlantic to avoid the effects of Hurricane Sandy (over the
211 Post contains images sweair : Flying into that storm on a B1 is not the best idea, but a great way to really test the airframe
212 tdscanuck : HAWK21M means problems with the air conditioning system; the air cycle machines at the heart of the system, and their associated bits, are often refe
213 kanban : can you elaborate on the problem or is it in another thread...
214 dbo861 : Actually it's an acronym for "Pressurization and Air Conditioning Kit"
215 KELPkid : Can you really call them that in the 787, though? As I understand it, the cabin is pressurized by superchargers driven with electric motors (and not
216 HAWK21M : The AI B787s had some Air conditioning [pack] issues lately.....Anyone aware of the snags faced on the B787 till date.
217 Post contains links KarelXWB : http://paineairport.com/images/fl102612.jpg Does anybody know why the windows of the China Southern 787 (LN43) are taped over?
218 petera380 : Because it's going into storage! Won't be delivered anythime soon. The one for Hainan Airlines probably won;t be going anywhere just yet either.
219 KarelXWB : I read about the Chinese issues but I did not expect them to go into storage again.
220 tdscanuck : Yes. The air conditioning packs on the 787 are essentially the same as on other equivalently sized jets. You're mixing up two different systems. The
221 brindabella :
222 Post contains images aeroblogger : Apparently, the issue with the packs are related to the other electrical issues which AI is facing. Nobody is willing to clarify what the problem with
223 tdscanuck : It may well be an acronym in some circles, but not at Boeing in any of the modern manuals I've seen. Yes. On a conventional pneumatic architecture yo
224 sweair : The AI 787s must really suck as much whine we get here, JAL, ANA and ET keep quiet and suffer in silence. AI should have gone for the good old Soviet
225 NYC777 : Are the three aircraft still in service or have they benn all taken out of service?
226 Post contains images aeroblogger : They're still in service, but dispatch reliability is not where it should be. Good thing AI has tons of 77Ls sitting around to sub in
227 b78710 : Does the 787 APU supply bleed air for engine start? Or is it back to electric starters?
228 7BOEING7 : APU supplies electrical power only. The only true "bleed air" in the airplane is the engine anti-ice system. The engines are started electrically fro
229 tdscanuck : No. It doesn't even have a load compressor, it's only output is electrical power. Sort of. The engines are electric start but they don't have dedicat
230 dc1030cf : I just saw KPAE blogspot's photo showing Hainan Airway's B-2728 has a new temporary reg N1006F sticker. This reminds me of the two Air India 787's jus
231 sweair : Would be a smart move as space is a premium over at Everett, and the Chinese seem to stall delivery and certification of the 787, its not like they d
232 dynamicsguy : Less so at the moment. Flightline stalls are full, but as more 747-8s and 787s are being delivered than rolled out the number of airplanes at Everett
233 flightsimer : ANA, who has 15 or 16 in fleet is managing a 99% dispatch reliability, but Air India, who has just 3 birds has managed to break a cargo door and is no
234 aeroblogger : To be fair to AI, ET has had serious issues too, causing them to cancel swaths of their proposed 787 schedule, and UA has been fighting issues for we
235 KarelXWB : ANA also had some problems in the beginning, I remember JA804A - one of the older builds - having problems with the electrical system for several time
236 kanban : all I see is vague alleged problems... please provide the specifics and the information sources.
237 sweair : Everything AI and Indian ends up in a big drama, maybe its just their culture? I am not impressed at all. Bollywood Airline..
238 mham001 : This is all big news. Sources?
239 Post contains links aeroblogger : It isn't big news at all. UA's issues are well documented: http://www.united.com/CMS/en-US/trav...Pages/travelnotices.aspx#Other_787 The inaugural 78
240 mham001 : You have provided absolutely no indication that these "issues" are a result of any of the chronic system failures that AI is complaining of. UA's mai
241 aeroblogger : Indeed, I haven't even provided any proof that these "chronic system failures" exist, nor have have proven that AI is complaining about them. Unlike
242 imiakhtar : It's in the current issue of FLIGHT International. ET has already had to remove and change an engine due to an oil leak. Additionally, whilst fuel ef
243 PHX787 : Hey mods, can we have a new thread soon please? This one is slowing up Thanks PHX787 Did they have adequate time to train the crews for the 787? Maybe
244 dkny : ET has been using it's 787 without problems I believe. They only thing they've been doing is changing the announced destinations for the plane. The f
245 Post contains links KarelXWB : Air India Seeks $250 Million Loan to Pay for Dreamliners
246 b78710 : Thank you. Looks like I'm on the type course next year. Should be an interesting one
247 max550 : No worries, I'll just have a slightly extended trip. Instead of doing EWR-IAH-EWR we'll be doing EWR-IAH-LAX-SAN-EWR arriving back home on 11/5. Hope
248 AirMailer : Wow, just saw this tweet from the official Boeing account: Boeing Airplanes Boeing Airplanes‏@BoeingAirplanes "Congrats to @united for taking delive
249 United787 : As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here: 32 Delivered to 7 Airlines Deliveries Prior to
250 sweair : That was unexpected! UAs third frame should be close to test flights now, should make it before the end of November. Two more are in EMC, so with a bi
251 FriendlySkies : There are two on the flight line already, I'd expect that of the two in EMC, one might make it by late December, the other early 2013. I think EMC st
252 Post contains images 7BOEING7 : Contrary to the opion of some people both here and on their blogs that it takes multiple Boeing and customer flights prior to delivery, it looks as th
253 Post contains images mffoda : By the recent news outlets (last couple of days) statements it appeared that the UA delay was something to potentially worry about?? Not a 2-3 day del
254 Post contains images AirMailer : See I couldn't help but notice that, two airlines recently made public statements about delays with their 787 deliveries and Bam! they get a 787 deli
255 PHX787 : Ditto, but very welcome news indeed! Anyone catch it on Flightaware?
256 Post contains images sweair : The B777 program needs mostly 1 Boeing flight and 1 customer flight, that should be the aim of the 787 program. Both of Qatars frames have flown 3 tes
257 KarelXWB : 2 more are already on the flightline and LN45 / ZA285 should finish change incorporation before the end of the year. That makes a total of 5 frames f
258 sweair : Yep LN45 has been at EMC for a long time, has engines installed, should roll out during Nov. 2 delivered 2 on flight line +LN45, 5 frames for UA in 2
259 KarelXWB : 2 - 3 months for the LN50+ frames, and add at least another month for painting and flight testing.
260 Post contains images brindabella : Appreciated. I had been thinking that a 777+ would be the time to go over to "more electric"; obviously not so. tks, cheers, Bill
261 Stitch : Perhaps those flights are in support of gaining CAAC certification?
262 United787 : The backlog should see a major reduction in the next few months... after seeing 3 post L/N 66 frames being delivered, I think it encouraging to note t
263 7BOEING7 : Looking at the flight profile it was most likely a B-2 flight.
264 sweair : A big win to deliver older frames must be a reduction of inventory for Boeing? This inventory has been huge with the 787 program so far. Inventory tha
265 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : http://flightaware.com/live/flight/UAL6866
266 Post contains images KarelXWB : China Southern B-2727 (LN43) is now stored at the south ramp
267 hmelawyer : Have there been any statements that shed light on what the particular hold-ups are with regard to certification by the CAAC? Is it just a matter of th
268 sweair : ANA´s 16th frame delivered 10/31 as well...in the air on its way to Japan. That would make 7 deliveries in Oktober.
269 Post contains links KarelXWB : And here are the pictures: http://www.flickr.com/photos/microvolt/8146392943/in/photostream http://www.flickr.com/photos/moonm/8146489746/in/photostr
270 sweair : The 787 has had so many snags, not just technical or logistical, AI has had its financial problems, QR has its IFE problems and now all Chinese frame
271 United787 : I agree, this one is getting long.
272 Post contains images 7BOEING7 : Looks like ANA ZA511 (LN#63) just landed in Tokyo--one Boeing flight, two customer flights--ship it.
273 sweair : Looks like all Chinese frames will be stored now, CAAC seems to be a very efficient operation?..
274 Post contains links KarelXWB : I did some reseach on LN45, she was pulled towards the EMC in May this year: http://kpae.blogspot.nl/2012/05/paine-field-may-14.html Already 6 months
275 sweair : Maybe one day they will talk about the rework, what and how it was done. I guess LN39 wont see daylight for another 5 months..
276 NYC777 : I just put up a post on my blog regarding deliveries and production. Boeing has stored two Chinese 787s on the South Ramp, both of these airplanes hav
277 Post contains images KarelXWB : There is an article about LN23 on Flightglobal which highlight some of the rework: There is a lot of work to do. It looks that way. However, ET is st
278 NYC777 : That's probably why they went with this one. I'm curious as to why they didn't work on the other younger frames but it milght be because of customer
279 KarelXWB : Sorry I had it wrong, LN11 / ZA500 is the one that had some work done inside the 40-24 building. That's possible. If true, LN15 will probably not go
280 Post contains links KarelXWB : Matt Camby tweeted that LN34 / ZA380 / B-2725 also went into storage. http://twitter.com/mattcawby/status/264580696453050368[Edited 2012-11-03 00:28:2
281 sweair : This Chinese certification issue, why do you think it became a delay? Corruption? Even the Indians certified it. Is there some political wrangling goi
282 kanban : could it actually be the Chinese Government wanting more compensation for the deliveries missing the Olympics?
283 Post contains images Stitch : Rather late to be asking for that now, IMO. I also don't recall them demanding compensation from Airbus for not having having the A380 ready for the
284 sweair : Hainans frames are all rework free..China southern has 3 that need rework. I guess someone somewhere wants their pocket filled..
285 Post contains images Aircellist : Well... A plane that had both 787 and A380 in its ID was bound to be late...
286 Post contains links 7BOEING7 : Looks like ETH ZA261 (LN#44) may have headed out on a C-1 today but returned to KPAE after about 45 minutes. If the data on flightaware is valid it wa
287 dc1030cf : Reply 286 - WOW ! She dropped 30,000ft in 7 minutes. What happened? Pressurization problem ?
288 Post contains images 7BOEING7 : The first minute must have been fun 39,000 to 26,000 with a descent rate as high as 14,400 ft/min according to flightaware. Must have been in a hurry
289 sweair : I saw that in another frame probably delivered now, a fast descent on a flight, an ANA frame perhaps?
290 Post contains images PHX787 : They're probably testing structural integrity....but that wouldn't be my way of doing it
291 7BOEING7 : That's not exactly something you do on a "production" airplane.
292 tdscanuck : 30,000' in 7 minutes is just over 4500 fpm...that's not particularly high. An emergency descent is much faster. 14,400' is more normal for the intial
293 Post contains links Spacepope : Looks like ZA240 is headed from CHS to FTW this morning, a week after it's B1 flight. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/B...0/history/20121104/1230Z/
294 Post contains links KarelXWB : Someone is having a theory that Boeing stripped the interiors out of the early ANA frames and is using them for the new frames. If true, those frames
295 sweair : ZA261 is flying again, whatever the issue yesterday it was fixed fast? The was the second rapid descent I have seen in a test flight, must be somethin
296 Post contains links KarelXWB : It looks like CHS pushed LN72 / ZA241 (VT-ANM) out of the factory. Five weeks after LN65 / ZA240, CHS is clearly ramping up towards a production rate
297 7BOEING7 : Looks like a C-1 for QTR ZA460 and a C-2 (C-1 profile) for ETH ZA261 after their aborted attempt yesterday.
298 kanban : They are probably removing the interiors to perform the electrical and A/C ducting rework. a good part of the interiors are common to all customers s
299 United787 : As always, thank you to All Things 787 (NYC777) and others for the information that is summarized here: 33 Delivered to 7 Airlines Deliveries Prior to
300 dc1030cf : I posted a question about a week ago regarding the Chinese frames and the reason they have not been delivered. A few nice folks answered and said it w
301 NYC777 : If true sounds like the Chinese jets aren't up to Western safety standards which causes me great concern. If true, I wouldn't want to step on a Chine
302 SonomaFlyer : The FAA's standards are applied based on written criteria. Given the U.S. safety record, it seems to work pretty well. There is no reason to relax th
303 seabosdca : The Chinese will buckle eventually. They are not going to restrict their own development by keeping out of their skies what they know will be the mos
304 tdscanuck : Tell that to Eclipse. Tom.
305 SonomaFlyer : I read a good deal of material about Eclipse based on your post. That certification process did look like it had issues. It appears the issues were w
306 Post contains links NZ1 : Please continue discussion here 787 Production/Delivery Thread Part 11 (by NZ1 Nov 4 2012 in Civil Aviation) NZ1 Forum Moderator
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