leftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 656 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 15711 times:
I was expecting a larger order but anyway... It's good to see some orders to expand long-haul flying. Hopefully we will see some new US/Canada destinations (e.g. BOS, DTW, MIA, YUL) with these.
leftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 656 posts, RR: 1 Reply 6, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 15552 times:
Quoting B777LRF (Reply 5): My money's one more Sub-Saharan Africa, Central Asia and Far East Asia routes. That's where the growth is at.
They are already expanding Sub-Saharan Africa using 739ERs, maybe Lusaka or Maputo may be out of the range. For Central Asia they fly to almost every city that counts anyway. Far East on the other hand is possible, with MNL, TPE, KUL and more China (if bilateral is revised) likely. Still not enough places to send 15 planes to.
runway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2038 posts, RR: 39 Reply 7, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 15456 times:
Quoting B777LRF (Reply 5): My money's one more Sub-Saharan Africa, Central Asia and Far East Asia routes. That's where the growth is at.
In any case they will need to balance their operations between east and west flows. So some of these will have to go in either direction or at one point TK will have to also upgauge a certain number of European routes to widebodies, as it seems some routes constantly have full 321s day in day out and are already running 3x per day at a very constrained airport.
Northstar80 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 158 posts, RR: 0 Reply 8, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 15424 times:
I wonder if these planes will have the Comfort Class (Premium Economy). I recently flew Comfort Class in their 77W's and was extremely pleased with it (Even tops most other airlines' business class).
You have to have your heart in the business and the business in your heart. -Thomas J Watson
What does this mean anyway?
Will they actually sign a firm order sometime between 2014 and 2016, or will the frames be delivered then.
I assume the last option.
Northstar80 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 158 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 15422 times:
Turkish Media also reports that an order of 10-15 77W's will be ordered in November..
You have to have your heart in the business and the business in your heart. -Thomas J Watson
art From Lebanon, joined Feb 2005, 2937 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 15045 times:
Quoting Chiad (Reply 9): Quoting Asiaflyer (Thread starter):
will buy 15 A330-300 during 2014-2016.
What does this mean anyway?
Will they actually sign a firm order sometime between 2014 and 2016, or will the frames be delivered then.
I assume the last option.
From the Reuters release:
"The carrier will buy four planes in 2014, six in 2015 and five in 2016, the Istanbul-based company said in a statement to the Istanbul Stock Exchange. (Writing by Seda Sezer)"
Badly translated, I suspect. They would not place 3 different orders so like you I guess it means they would receive deliveries as reported in 2014, 2015 an 2016.
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4108 posts, RR: 13 Reply 15, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 13807 times:
Quoting Northstar80 (Reply 8): I wonder if these planes will have the Comfort Class (Premium Economy)
Probably not.
TK 333s have 34 lie-flat business class seats with 54"pitch
and 236 Y seats with 33-34" pitch.
And if the rumors are true about;
- 77W order in November and
- up to 200 more narrow body order in works and
- the opening of the first phase of a new airport in Istanbul by 2016 and
- still about 50 more narrow-bodies to arrive next few years. (already in order books)
these are exciting times for TK and Turkish Aviation.
TC957 From UK - England, joined May 2012, 336 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 13404 times:
Another great A333 order, but if they're getting up to another 15 77W's as well then surely we can all forget about the much-hyped rumoured VLA aquisition.
TK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4108 posts, RR: 13 Reply 17, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 13181 times:
Quoting TC957 (Reply 16): forget about the much-hyped rumoured VLA aquisition.
You must have missed the latest announcement that 333/77W comes first for TK. But still interested for up to 6 frames of VLAs. Has to wait till the new airport at Istanbul completes first phase, 2016. Order could come by then.
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15733 posts, RR: 48 Reply 18, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 12292 times:
Quoting scouseflyer (Reply 3):
They're never going to order a VLA, it's a mythical beast that order!
I don't think there's any reason for TK to have a VLA other than ego, especially with the new airport in the pipeline. More 333s makes a lot of sense though
avek00 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4092 posts, RR: 18 Reply 21, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 11223 times:
Quoting KPDX (Reply 2): I was hoping it was a newer VLA
Anything larger than a 77W runs contrary to the TK business model.
MaddogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 350 posts, RR: 1 Reply 24, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9753 times:
Wonder if this will finally allow them to add ATL, since the announcement of the ATL tag-on via IAD never materialized.
25 Stitch: Cake is empty calories and it sounds like a VLA is empty seats.
26 danielkandi: I totally agree on the Comfort Class. The food was better than KLM business imo. The price and for what they offer, makes comfort class completely wo
27 TK787: Who knows if Comfort will be added to the 333 fleet, but as of now it only exist on the 77W fleet. We all know Comfort Class on TK is one of the best
28 ymincrement: how true I am not sure but they say they have the biggest number of destinations in all airlines in their latest advertisement. may be because of that
29 LAXintl: Today the CEO of TK was quoted by Financial Times as saying the carrier needed more long-haul aircraft to "allow more flights to destinations to New Y
30 YULWinterSkies: DTW and YUL would work well as these are 2 destinations that are popular with mid-easterners. However, VFR is never the highest yielding market. And
31 caliatenza: so this means they will also expand in India, correct?
32 VC10er: I went on line to see the different classes on Turkish (an airline I'd LOVE to fly) but there were so many different seats my head was spinning! Do th
33 sydaircargo: they wanted to come to Australia one day , would be a far stretch for the A 330 unless you stop one more time.
34 lightsaber: With the proposed new airport, I could see TK ordering a large number of 'small' widebodies. I notice they have yet to select the A350 or 787... that
35 EddieDude: Will these Airbuses be the extended-range/payload versions?
36 MeCe: That not works like this J seats have 78" pitch and Y+ have 46". to install one row of J seat you need to remove 2 rows of Y+ seats. Another problem
37 leftyboarder: They still can fly to BOS or DTW can't they? Both yet untapped by the MidEast giants.
38 TK787: Hey, thanks for the explanation/correction. I am sure they can make it work somehow, move 3 rows of Y+, or go with only one row only and move the lav
39 photoshooter: Seems like a good replacement for the A340s. They will have to replace 7 A340s so I guess they won't add new long haul destinations soon? Niek
40 ASA: Exactly what went through my mind! DTW is ideally positioned for a 332/333 service, with its Levant-origin population ... we have had countless discu
41 lightsaber: BOS, PHL, DTW, JFK, or EWR are all in A333 range (although DTW will be with winter payload penalties). I could see an A332 to DTW with the A333 repla
42 TK787: Only problem is the bilaterals. YYZ is painstakingly went up to 5 x weekly on 77W. TK wants to fly daily. YUL slots, IIRC is granted if TK chooses to
43 TurkishWings: I think they are saying "More international destinations (cities)" than any other airline. I wonder if it's true though...
44 ASA: Yes, YUL is another great candidate ... and an A333 could be a great solution! Sizeable population from francophone nations in North Africa and Levan
45 goosebayguy: Are they trying to take on EK? If so what would be their advantage over EK? THY seem to be seriously gambling on very bright future here. They must su
46 Stitch: IST being a more convenient connection point for the eastern and southern EU and north-eastern Africa than DXB?[Edited 2012-10-09 12:32:44]
47 SCQ83: DTW is already served by RJ (probably RJ is not a "MidEast giant"... but still I am sure they can pretty well serve Middle Eastern community in Michi
48 LAXintl: At the moment the Canada bilateral only allows a single destination and 5x weekly service. Until Canada is forthcoming with more rights, any hopes of
49 robffm2: Now confirmed by Airbus as a an order: http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...s-another-15-airbus-a330-aircraft/
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