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Turkish Airlines To Buy 15 A330-300  
User currently offlineAsiaflyer From Singapore, joined May 2007, 1163 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 18359 times:

Turkish Airlines has filed to the Istanbul Stock Exchange that they will buy 15 A330-300 during 2014-2016.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...lines-airbus-idUSI7E8JE02820121008


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User currently offlineEPA001 From Netherlands, joined Sep 2006, 4944 posts, RR: 40
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 18279 times:
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Another very nice order for the A330. Turkish must be satisfied with their A330's. Good for all involved with TK, Airbus and RR?  .

[Edited 2012-10-08 00:32:08]

User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2776 posts, RR: 2
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 18276 times:

Mehhh. I was hoping it was a newer VLA, but congrats to Airbus anyways.  


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User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3402 posts, RR: 9
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 18062 times:

Quoting KPDX (Reply 2):
Mehhh. I was hoping it was a newer VLA, but congrats to Airbus anyways.

They're never going to order a VLA, it's a mythical beast that order!


User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 696 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 17897 times:

I was expecting a larger order but anyway... It's good to see some orders to expand long-haul flying. Hopefully we will see some new US/Canada destinations (e.g. BOS, DTW, MIA, YUL) with these.

User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1465 posts, RR: 3
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 17797 times:

Quoting leftyboarder (Reply 4):
Hopefully we will see some new US/Canada destinations (e.g. BOS, DTW, MIA, YUL) with these.

My money's one more Sub-Saharan Africa, Central Asia and Far East Asia routes. That's where the growth is at.



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User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 696 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 17738 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 5):
My money's one more Sub-Saharan Africa, Central Asia and Far East Asia routes. That's where the growth is at.

They are already expanding Sub-Saharan Africa using 739ERs, maybe Lusaka or Maputo may be out of the range. For Central Asia they fly to almost every city that counts anyway. Far East on the other hand is possible, with MNL, TPE, KUL and more China (if bilateral is revised) likely. Still not enough places to send 15 planes to.


User currently offlinerunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2222 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 17642 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 5):
My money's one more Sub-Saharan Africa, Central Asia and Far East Asia routes. That's where the growth is at.

In any case they will need to balance their operations between east and west flows. So some of these will have to go in either direction or at one point TK will have to also upgauge a certain number of European routes to widebodies, as it seems some routes constantly have full 321s day in day out and are already running 3x per day at a very constrained airport.


User currently offlineNorthstar80 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 17610 times:

I wonder if these planes will have the Comfort Class (Premium Economy). I recently flew Comfort Class in their 77W's and was extremely pleased with it (Even tops most other airlines' business class).


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User currently offlineChiad From Norway, joined May 2006, 1186 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 17607 times:

Quoting Asiaflyer (Thread starter):
will buy 15 A330-300 during 2014-2016.

What does this mean anyway?
Will they actually sign a firm order sometime between 2014 and 2016, or will the frames be delivered then.
I assume the last option.


User currently offlineNorthstar80 From United States of America, joined Nov 2009, 220 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 17608 times:

Turkish Media also reports that an order of 10-15 77W's will be ordered in November..


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User currently offlineart From United Kingdom, joined Feb 2005, 3398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 17231 times:

Quoting Chiad (Reply 9):
Quoting Asiaflyer (Thread starter):
will buy 15 A330-300 during 2014-2016.

What does this mean anyway?
Will they actually sign a firm order sometime between 2014 and 2016, or will the frames be delivered then.
I assume the last option.

From the Reuters release:

"The carrier will buy four planes in 2014, six in 2015 and five in 2016, the Istanbul-based company said in a statement to the Istanbul Stock Exchange. (Writing by Seda Sezer)"

Badly translated, I suspect. They would not place 3 different orders so like you I guess it means they would receive deliveries as reported in 2014, 2015 an 2016.


User currently onlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12877 posts, RR: 46
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 16847 times:
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Quoting Chiad (Reply 9):
Will they actually sign a firm order sometime between 2014 and 2016, or will the frames be delivered then.

I would expect those are the delivery dates.



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User currently offlineTurkish350XWB From Switzerland, joined Jan 2009, 522 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 16491 times:

Flightglobal also mentions 5 options...

User currently offlineautothrust From Switzerland, joined Jun 2006, 1609 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 16314 times:

The A330 is still selling like hot cakes.... what a great plane!   


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User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4475 posts, RR: 12
Reply 15, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 15993 times:

Quoting Northstar80 (Reply 8):
I wonder if these planes will have the Comfort Class (Premium Economy)

Probably not.
TK 333s have 34 lie-flat business class seats with 54"pitch
and 236 Y seats with 33-34" pitch.

And if the rumors are true about;
- 77W order in November and
- up to 200 more narrow body order in works and
- the opening of the first phase of a new airport in Istanbul by 2016 and
- still about 50 more narrow-bodies to arrive next few years. (already in order books)
these are exciting times for TK and Turkish Aviation.


User currently offlineTC957 From UK - England, joined May 2012, 1037 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 15590 times:

Another great A333 order, but if they're getting up to another 15 77W's as well then surely we can all forget about the much-hyped rumoured VLA aquisition.

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4475 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 15367 times:

Quoting TC957 (Reply 16):
forget about the much-hyped rumoured VLA aquisition.

You must have missed the latest announcement that 333/77W comes first for TK. But still interested for up to 6 frames of VLAs. Has to wait till the new airport at Istanbul completes first phase, 2016. Order could come by then.


User currently offlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17823 posts, RR: 46
Reply 18, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 14478 times:

Quoting scouseflyer (Reply 3):

They're never going to order a VLA, it's a mythical beast that order!

I don't think there's any reason for TK to have a VLA other than ego, especially with the new airport in the pipeline. More 333s makes a lot of sense though  



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User currently offlinesomething From United Kingdom, joined May 2011, 1633 posts, RR: 21
Reply 19, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 6 days ago) and read 14178 times:

When are the A343s leaving the fleet? Couldn't this just be a replacement order?


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User currently offlineleftyboarder From Turkey, joined Apr 2008, 696 posts, RR: 1
Reply 20, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13934 times:

Quoting something (Reply 19):
When are the A343s leaving the fleet? Couldn't this just be a replacement order?

There are only 7 of those in the fleet. Even if this replaces some of those, that still means a net growth of 8 frames.


User currently offlineavek00 From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 4417 posts, RR: 19
Reply 21, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 23 hours ago) and read 13409 times:

Quoting KPDX (Reply 2):
I was hoping it was a newer VLA

Anything larger than a 77W runs contrary to the TK business model.



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User currently offlineKPDX From United States of America, joined Dec 2005, 2776 posts, RR: 2
Reply 22, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12478 times:

Quoting avek00 (Reply 21):
Anything larger than a 77W runs contrary to the TK business model.

Not surprised.. Was just the aviation geek in me. 



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User currently offlinena From Germany, joined Dec 1999, 10817 posts, RR: 9
Reply 23, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 12044 times:

More bread-and-butter. Where´s the cake?

User currently offlineMaddogJT8D From United States of America, joined Oct 2009, 402 posts, RR: 1
Reply 24, posted (2 years 2 months 1 week 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 11939 times:

Wonder if this will finally allow them to add ATL, since the announcement of the ATL tag-on via IAD never materialized.

25 Stitch : Cake is empty calories and it sounds like a VLA is empty seats.
26 danielkandi : I totally agree on the Comfort Class. The food was better than KLM business imo. The price and for what they offer, makes comfort class completely wo
27 TK787 : Who knows if Comfort will be added to the 333 fleet, but as of now it only exist on the 77W fleet. We all know Comfort Class on TK is one of the best
28 Post contains links and images ymincrement : how true I am not sure but they say they have the biggest number of destinations in all airlines in their latest advertisement. may be because of that
29 Post contains links LAXintl : Today the CEO of TK was quoted by Financial Times as saying the carrier needed more long-haul aircraft to "allow more flights to destinations to New Y
30 YULWinterSkies : DTW and YUL would work well as these are 2 destinations that are popular with mid-easterners. However, VFR is never the highest yielding market. And
31 caliatenza : so this means they will also expand in India, correct?
32 VC10er : I went on line to see the different classes on Turkish (an airline I'd LOVE to fly) but there were so many different seats my head was spinning! Do th
33 sydaircargo : they wanted to come to Australia one day , would be a far stretch for the A 330 unless you stop one more time.
34 Post contains images lightsaber : With the proposed new airport, I could see TK ordering a large number of 'small' widebodies. I notice they have yet to select the A350 or 787... that
35 EddieDude : Will these Airbuses be the extended-range/payload versions?
36 Post contains images MeCe : That not works like this J seats have 78" pitch and Y+ have 46". to install one row of J seat you need to remove 2 rows of Y+ seats. Another problem
37 leftyboarder : They still can fly to BOS or DTW can't they? Both yet untapped by the MidEast giants.
38 TK787 : Hey, thanks for the explanation/correction. I am sure they can make it work somehow, move 3 rows of Y+, or go with only one row only and move the lav
39 Post contains images photoshooter : Seems like a good replacement for the A340s. They will have to replace 7 A340s so I guess they won't add new long haul destinations soon? Niek
40 Post contains images ASA : Exactly what went through my mind! DTW is ideally positioned for a 332/333 service, with its Levant-origin population ... we have had countless discu
41 Post contains images lightsaber : BOS, PHL, DTW, JFK, or EWR are all in A333 range (although DTW will be with winter payload penalties). I could see an A332 to DTW with the A333 repla
42 TK787 : Only problem is the bilaterals. YYZ is painstakingly went up to 5 x weekly on 77W. TK wants to fly daily. YUL slots, IIRC is granted if TK chooses to
43 TurkishWings : I think they are saying "More international destinations (cities)" than any other airline. I wonder if it's true though...
44 Post contains images ASA : Yes, YUL is another great candidate ... and an A333 could be a great solution! Sizeable population from francophone nations in North Africa and Levan
45 goosebayguy : Are they trying to take on EK? If so what would be their advantage over EK? THY seem to be seriously gambling on very bright future here. They must su
46 Stitch : IST being a more convenient connection point for the eastern and southern EU and north-eastern Africa than DXB?[Edited 2012-10-09 12:32:44]
47 SCQ83 : DTW is already served by RJ (probably RJ is not a "MidEast giant"... but still I am sure they can pretty well serve Middle Eastern community in Michi
48 LAXintl : At the moment the Canada bilateral only allows a single destination and 5x weekly service. Until Canada is forthcoming with more rights, any hopes of
49 Post contains links robffm2 : Now confirmed by Airbus as a an order: http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...s-another-15-airbus-a330-aircraft/
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