b735 From Denmark, joined Oct 2010, 55 posts, RR: 0 Posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 2529 times:
Hi,
A friend of my in the travel business briefly mentioned that TK is considering a hub outside Turkey and that CPH is the most likely city. I can see pro and cons why the might be an idea:
PRO
- Star Alliance hub
- Convenient location for intermediate stop for flights IST-CPH-North America
- Large Turkish population
CON
- Unattractive for pax connecting in IST for flights to US
- CPH traditionally not strong J-cl and F-cl market
I doubt TK looks at the Turkish diaspora when making hub decisions, especially 70,000 Turks in Denmark is a very small number, compared to other European cities.
smbukas From Lithuania, joined Feb 2009, 105 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (8 months 1 week 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 2218 times:
I think it is not likely, and I am sure it will be bad decision for them if they decide to.
Legislation do not allow them to own more then 49% in EU carrier and they probably will not get wide rights to operate routes inside EU with their own AOC.
But legislation is one thing, attractiveness for the passenger and business sense is much more stronger. Turkish Airlines have so much connecting passengers to North America from Middle East, India, Iran, Africa, etc. No look at the passenger let's say from Mumbai, who needs to get to let's say to Miami. Options - one connection stop on MEB3 (sooner or later they will expand to almost all US cities), one connection on European carrier (BA, LH, KLM, AF, others). TK? Two connections in IST and CPH? Makes no sense. You can win some passengers on price, but they will be lowest yield "price bargainers" (and some aviation enthusiasts, who love take-offs, lounges and landings).
What I heard, Jet Airways hub in Europe do not work so well. And they are in better position - they have home market India splitted to few metropolis and each of them cannot sustain direct flights to US. So if you are traveller in Delhi, you need to transfer let's say in Mumbai (that is one stop) or the same one stop in BRU/LHR or anywhere else, what even make more sense to stretch legs in the middle of the journey.
I don't tink TK hub in EU could make sense. Very small benefits for the passengers, strong legal barriers and try to enter the market with the worse product (two stops will never win vs one-stop).
aerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6368 posts, RR: 13 Reply 9, posted (8 months 1 week 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 1036 times:
and if Turkey was officially added to EU in the future?? hypothetically of course. Also might the shareholding restriction be something the EU would change in the future in order to inject much needed money into the ailing carriers of the EU and reduce the EU bailouts of carriers like Air Malta, SAS and others who may as well be burning the money....
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