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The Fate Of HongKong Airlines A330 At LGW?  
User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3230 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 12347 times:

Does anyone have an update on this?

A330


I flew out Sunday and must say it is starting to look dirty and a bit sad.Why is it still sitting here, are there unpaid fees, I think operations closed on 10th September


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User currently offlineaa1818 From Trinidad and Tobago, joined Feb 2006, 3433 posts, RR: 4
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 11530 times:

Hong Kong Airlines are still operating or did Hainan close them down?

Are you referring to LGW operations or their total operations?

Quoting readytotaxi (Thread starter):
I think operations closed on 10th September

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User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3238 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11417 times:

Which one is it btw? Looks to be B-HNL?

User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8535 posts, RR: 54
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11412 times:
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Quoting skipness1E (Reply 2):
Which one is it btw? Looks to be B-HNL?

- I'd like to know too, saw it there the other week when returning from Malaga.



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User currently offlineAAMDanny From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2008, 354 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11399 times:

I was under the assumption that they were for maintenance? Sometimes there was up to 3 stored on the remote LGW ramps?

User currently offlinePlymSpotter From Spain, joined Jun 2004, 11645 posts, RR: 60
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 11369 times:

The president is quoted as saying;

"Our plan is to re-deploy the three specially equipped, all-business-class A330s which currently service the London route to charter flights."

Could it be that they have left one A332 based in the UK to try and pick up higher end charter work?


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User currently offlinereadytotaxi From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2006, 3230 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 11182 times:

Quoting skipness1E (Reply 2):

Yes,it is.

Quoting aa1818 (Reply 1):
Are you referring to LGW operations or their total operations?

Sorry, yes just the LGW route.

Quoting PlymSpotter (Reply 5):
Could it be that they have left one A332 based in the UK to try and pick up higher end charter work?


Nice idea,good luck with that HKA.  



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User currently offlineLafite82 From Hong Kong, joined Jul 2012, 41 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 10040 times:

The aircraft in question cannot be B-HNL, as this registration belongs to B-777-267 (msn 27116) owned by CX. All of HX A332's registration start with B-LN*

User currently offlineairsmiles From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2009, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10002 times:

I'm not sure which aircraft is involved but one aircraft is certainly used for various charters. Recently it was used by Manchester United football club.

User currently offlineCX Flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6597 posts, RR: 55
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 9843 times:

Maybe you meant B-LNL?

I know B-LNJ is on the ramp in HKG and there is another one in the hangar but I don't know the reg.

No-one knows what is happening to these A330s but some of their A330 pilots have been told they are to transfer to the A320 so it sounds like the A330 fleet will be cut. I except these three A330s will be reconfigured and join the Hainan Airlines fleet.

There are rumours of some real financial issues now at HKA and the last few A320 delivery flights have been subjected to last minute delays because of financing. One of my friends was there to fly one of them home and was told that the delivery flight had been cancelled so the crew headed back to HKG. The aircraft has since been delivered but rumours of their financial issues continue.

Their two remaining 737-300Fs departed HKG recently to rejoin the Yangtze River Express fleet. Some of their 737-800s will apparently be heading back to the parent company soon as well, although in all fairness this was always the plan once the A320s started arriving.


User currently offlinedavidho1985 From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2012, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 9438 times:
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Quoting CX Flyboy (Reply 9):
No-one knows what is happening to these A330s but some of their A330 pilots have been told they are to transfer to the A320 so it sounds like the A330 fleet will be cut. I except these three A330s will be reconfigured and join the Hainan Airlines fleet.

News said that those A330VIP will be kept and leased to HU, Hong Kong Airlines' parent company for the domestic flights in China.

Quoting CX Flyboy (Reply 9):
There are rumours of some real financial issues now at HKA and the last few A320 delivery flights have been subjected to last minute delays because of financing. One of my friends was there to fly one of them home and was told that the delivery flight had been cancelled so the crew headed back to HKG. The aircraft has since been delivered but rumours of their financial issues continue.

They are not facing financial difficulties. Yes, the LGW route posted a significant loss. However, the management claimed that Hong Kong Airlines are still earning profits upto now. Actually, the loading of their flights are quiet healthy.

The delay of A320 delivery is mainly due to the restriction imposed by the Hong Kong Government. They limited their fleet's size so that no new planes can be added to the fleet untill some planes are bening removed from the fleet.
As a result, certain plants are transferred to Hong Kong Express, their sister company or other HU's subsidiaries.

Quoting CX Flyboy (Reply 9):
Their two remaining 737-300Fs departed HKG recently to rejoin the Yangtze River Express fleet. Some of their 737-800s will apparently be heading back to the parent company soon as well, although in all fairness this was always the plan once the A320s started arriving.

As mentioned above, such movement enable them to put those newly deliveried A320 into serivce.


User currently offlineTupolevtu154 From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 2181 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8847 times:

It is B-LNK and last flew on the 2nd of September. It's been at LGW since and its various sensitive pieces are taped up for some description of storage. The whole fleet was parked up here at one point but the two others are flying charters somewhere.


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User currently online817Dreamliiner From Montserrat, joined Jul 2008, 2321 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 8847 times:

Hmm and someone doubted me when I mentioned this in my trip report a few weeks ago... At that time there were 2 of them there on the 16th of september.


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User currently offlinedavidho1985 From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2012, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8656 times:
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One of the A332VIP B-LNJ is currently in HK.

It was used to filming a TV programme sponsored by Hong Kong Airlines


User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8535 posts, RR: 54
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 8389 times:
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Quoting Tupolevtu154 (Reply 11):
It is B-LNK and last flew on the 2nd of September. It's been at LGW since and its various sensitive pieces are taped up for some description of storage

- Excellent, thanks, that's the one I need  



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User currently offlinerakoon From Spain, joined Jan 2009, 42 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 7816 times:

Tupoloevtu154 it's right it's the B-LNK, badly, but if you see the main picture it's possible see the register in the landing gear.

[Edited 2012-10-09 02:30:39]

User currently offlinetheobcman From UK - England, joined Nov 2010, 141 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 7463 times:

Have heard from an ex Hong Kong Airlines Cargo employee that they are on 'free' storage as agreed with airline and airport. As there is no need for this specially configured aircraft back in HKG just yet they will be left at LGW just for now.

Cargo loads were going great btw, just the pax figures not great !


User currently offlineskipness1E From United Kingdom, joined Aug 2007, 3238 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 6991 times:

Quoting CX Flyboy (Reply 9):
Maybe you meant B-LNL?

Yes I did, I should never post from memory without checking, especially when my mind is on booking with Cathay over Christmas....


User currently offlinedeclarets From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2011, 21 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 6291 times:

Quoting theobcman (Reply 16):
Cargo loads were going great btw

not suprising with the rates they offered. they wouldnt have been making money on the cargo though.


User currently offlinedavidho1985 From Hong Kong, joined Oct 2012, 335 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 3484 times:
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As a member of HU's FFP, I just got the following massage from them.

Those A330VIP will be used to operate HU's domestic flight between Shengzhen and Beijing.
The service will begin in October.

More details, please refer to: (only in Chinese)
http://www.hnair.com/images/a330/index.html


User currently offlineTupolevtu154 From Germany, joined Aug 2004, 2181 posts, RR: 28
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 2884 times:

Further to what I said some days ago, B-LNK is apparently due to depart LGW for Haikou on Tuesday (16th) on long-term wetlease to Hainan Airlines.


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User currently offlineCX Flyboy From Hong Kong, joined Dec 1999, 6597 posts, RR: 55
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2711 times:

Quoting davidho1985 (Reply 10):
They are not facing financial difficulties. Yes, the LGW route posted a significant loss. However, the management claimed that Hong Kong Airlines are still earning profits upto now. Actually, the loading of their flights are quiet healthy.

Thats not what I have heard and last year they lost over HK$200 Million as quoted by several sources including the CX CEO.

Quoting davidho1985 (Reply 10):
The delay of A320 delivery is mainly due to the restriction imposed by the Hong Kong Government. They limited their fleet's size so that no new planes can be added to the fleet untill some planes are bening removed from the fleet.
As a result, certain plants are transferred to Hong Kong Express, their sister company or other HU's subsidiaries.

Yes but this was announced several weeks before the A320s deliveries. You don't send a crew to pick up new aircraft from Toulouse if you know the CAD will not allow them into the fleet. The delays were financial as funds from HU were being held up.


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