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OS Unveils New Business Class Seat  
User currently offlineLOWS From Austria, joined Oct 2011, 1155 posts, RR: 1
Posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9941 times:

Via the ever reliable AustrianAvation.net, the new OS Business Class seat:

http://www.austrianaviation.net/news...eue-business-class-online-vor.html

Unfortunately, OS has taken the site offline until the official unveiling, but from the pictures it looks very good! Now, just get rid of that awful green, especially the carpeting.

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User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 24
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 9941 times:
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Looks like the same seat as LX, SN, AY, and DL.

User currently offlineAA737-823 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 5822 posts, RR: 11
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9722 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 1):

Looks like the same seat as LX, SN, AY, and DL.

Except that, in the first pic, we can tell that it doesn't go full flat. The bottom cushion is sloped toward the footwell.
Are DL and LAX seats this same way?


User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9647 times:
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They are all supposed to be full-flat, including the OS one...no idea why the seat looks that way in that pic...
I have flown the LX, AY, and DL ones, and they all go 180 degrees flat.


User currently onlinekanban From United States of America, joined Jan 2008, 3558 posts, RR: 26
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9465 times:
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Sorry but the thing reminds me of a trash compactor..

User currently offlinetonystan From Ireland, joined Jan 2006, 1437 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 9436 times:

Same as the ones BA are installing on the former BMI A321s!


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User currently offlineSenchingo From Germany, joined Oct 2010, 111 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9422 times:

Love it. Those screens and the double armrest are awesome! (P.S: Never flew LX, SN, AY or DL so i can't judge).

User currently offlinerunway23 From US Minor Outlying Islands, joined Jan 2005, 2194 posts, RR: 35
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9364 times:

When and on what aircraft will Austrian install these on?

User currently offlineProst From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 1045 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9313 times:

I like the fact that their interios aren't boring blue.

User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 820 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9299 times:

Quoting tonystan (Reply 5):
Same as the ones BA are installing on the former BMI A321s!

Which were ordered by, and I believe delivered to, BD for their [now BAs] A321s while they were still part of the LH group - as of course are OS.


User currently offlinejetmarc From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 554 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 2 days 1 hour ago) and read 9272 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 3):

They are all supposed to be full-flat, including the OS one...no idea why the seat looks that way in that pic...
I have flown the LX, AY, and DL ones, and they all go 180 degrees flat.

Could it have anything to do with the aircraft not flying completely level inflight?



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User currently offlinecontext From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 37 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8934 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 1):
Looks like the same seat as LX, SN, AY, and DL.

I thought the exact same thing!

How important is product differentiation vs. the enormous cost to develop such seats (UA's efforts on their premium cabins with Pentagram come to mind)? Are these as "off-the-shelf" as they seem to the untrained eye?


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2987 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 8867 times:

Quoting jetmarc (Reply 10):
Could it have anything to do with the aircraft not flying completely level inflight?

   All fully flat seats are on an incline of a couple of degrees when you look at direct side on photos.

It looks like a decent enough product, though it doesn't have the same class as similar products. That bed looks awfully lumpy as well, especially at the join between the back of the seat and the seat cushion itself.


User currently offlineGCPET From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2012, 204 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 7675 times:

Looks like an iPad on Steroids the screen! Look's a very nice overall product

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User currently offlinephotoshooter From Belgium, joined Feb 2010, 454 posts, RR: 20
Reply 14, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 7055 times:
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Looks exactly the same as SN's newest Business Class   . A good choice as well because those seats are pretty comfortable. Even the IFE is exactly the same.
Although the picture is showing that the seat is not a full flat seat but I'm sure it is, since it's the same model as LX and SN.

Nice choice OS!



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User currently offlinebabybus From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 15, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 6833 times:

Do the guys who design these seats actually sit in them?

I don't think that seat looks comfortable at all. Part of your body is going to fall between the cushions. Your body will be angled above or below the waist in sleeping position whether you like it or not.

Surely it isn't that difficult, with modern computer graphics and ergonomic study, to get a fully flat surface to lay on.


User currently offlinealaskaqantas From New Zealand, joined Dec 2005, 905 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6698 times:

Quoting jetmarc (Reply 10):

They are all supposed to be full-flat, including the OS one...no idea why the seat looks that way in that pic...
I have flown the LX, AY, and DL ones, and they all go 180 degrees flat.

Could it have anything to do with the aircraft not flying completely level inflight?

yup, typically there is a 3 degree incline. I heard from someone that some fo the big airlines, especially for the F seats will have their marketing seats (ei the ones they put on display / use for commercials etc) go fully flat so that it shows it as it would be in flight...

Quoting context (Reply 11):
Quoting panamair (Reply 1):
Looks like the same seat as LX, SN, AY, and DL.

I thought the exact same thing!

similar. I'm not familiar with the companies that make the seats... but i do know that there are variations. yes they all choose the finish of the seat and module specific to their brand, but also other things like DL offers this in a 1-2-1 on there 764er (and just coming onto their 763er) but this is the type that has the thrown seat, such as LX, where instead of just offsetting two seats back and forth each row, they have a row with 2 seats, then a row with one seat (and two big side tables) then two seats etc etc... maybe its because of the size of the aircraft, or DL simply trying to fit more seats in.

so it looks like its following LX rather than the DL side, which having flown both, is, in my opinion the right way to go! plus there seems to be a few modern twists (such as the remote, PTV, seat controller)

looks great, I'd be onboard to try this!
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~~Kyle



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User currently offlineardian From Netherlands, joined Oct 2000, 544 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 6310 times:

As a seat, this is definitely a great improvement. Other than that, it looks very 'bland': the current C-cabin has such a great design scheme. The current C-class seat is just a regular lie-flat seat, but it really stands out due to its colors and wood patterned back shell. It's sad that they chose some boring colors for this one.


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User currently offlinethegivenone From Austria, joined Jan 2008, 192 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 5994 times:

Congratulations to my wonderful little home airline! While it is well known that Austrian has been struggling recently, I am glad to see that they have invested in the new cabins and an overall more competitive product on longhauls. These long overdue upgrades paired with Austrian's inflight service and catering will definitely make them a viable option on my next Atlantic crossing.

Does anyone have any info on economy class updates? Given the cross-pollination in the LH group, I imagine they might have chosen the same models as SN. I


User currently offlinejumpjets From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 820 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5569 times:

Quoting babybus (Reply 15):
Do the guys who design these seats actually sit in them?

I would suggest that they [or their design colleagues] are much more likely to sit on the seats than a.net armchair commentators who delight in criticising everything before its given a chance.


User currently offlinemozart From Luxembourg, joined Aug 2003, 2182 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5483 times:

WIth Austrian, Brussels and Swiss all using this seat, why on earth has Lufthansa itself not chosen this model but another design which gets many extremely critical reviews?

User currently offlinepanamair From United States of America, joined Oct 2001, 4910 posts, RR: 24
Reply 21, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 5407 times:
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Quoting alaskaqantas (Reply 16):
maybe its because of the size of the aircraft, or DL simply trying to fit more seats in.

It is because of the aircraft type. Delta has this seat only on their 767s, which have a narrower fueslage than the A330s, where LX, AY, and SN have installed theirs. As a result, DL's is just 1-2-1 so every seat has direct aisle access, whereas the LX/AY/SN model means every other row on one side has a window seat that is 'stuck' with no direct aisle access (the config is 1-2-1 and then 2-2-1 for the next row).


User currently offlineBoeing773ER From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 432 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4604 times:

Quoting runway23 (Reply 7):

I believe they are installing them onto the 777s and the 767s.

Looks good, taking OS up to industry standards. Much needed.



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User currently offlineTreeHillRavens From Malaysia, joined Jun 2007, 398 posts, RR: 1
Reply 23, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 4589 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 21):

the LX/AY/SN model means every other row on one side has a window seat that is 'stuck' with no direct aisle access (the config is 1-2-1 and then 2-2-1 for the next row).

Actually, it is 1-2-1 and 2-1-2 on SN.


User currently onlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25336 posts, RR: 22
Reply 24, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 1 day 3 hours ago) and read 2852 times:

Quoting panamair (Reply 21):
whereas the LX/AY/SN model means every other row on one side has a window seat that is 'stuck' with no direct aisle access (the config is 1-2-1 and then 2-2-1 for the next row).

Only 5 of 45 seats on LX A333s/343s lack direct aisle access, and those seats are probably attractive for passengers travelling in pairs who also prefer window seats. And probably not that many flights where the load factor exceeds 88% where those seats would have to be used by single passengers who prefer direct aisle access.
http://www.swiss.com/web/EN/fly_swis...ircraft/Pages/airbus_a330_300.aspx


User currently offlinesmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1533 posts, RR: 0
Reply 25, posted (1 year 11 months 2 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 2629 times:

Quoting AA737-823 (Reply 2):
Except that, in the first pic, we can tell that it doesn't go full flat. The bottom cushion is sloped toward the footwell.
Are DL and LAX seats this same way?
Quoting qf002 (Reply 12):

All fully flat seats are on an incline of a couple of degrees when you look at direct side on photos.

This is true as the aircraft even at cruise never flies flat, I believe generally the incline is 3 Degrees. If the seat was flat the incline would be uncomfortable reversed.

Looks great to me! Nice big screen, crisp clean modern design, much better then the current design and style.

Now all they need is new uniforms!


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