ATL From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 68 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 months 1 week 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 4343 times:
Hey guys,
Have AA installed winglets on every single one of their 767--300s? Or are there still a few 763s without winglets? Do they plan on installing winglets on all their 763s, or will they leave some without? Also, do these wingleted 763s fly domestic routes? (For example, do they fly DFW-LAX, MIA-LAX, MIA-DFW, LAX-ORD, etc..?) or do wingletted 763s usually always fly international?
Longhornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3094 posts, RR: 48 Reply 1, posted (7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4264 times:
If I remember correctly, AA stopped the winglet program on their 763s a couple years back. So yes, some do have them, some don't. Based on my observations, I'd say only about 30-40% of the fleet has them, but again, that's just based on spending quite a bit of time around DFW. Certainly not scientific by any stretch.
AFAIK, there isn't any distinction between the two subfleets, which means you're just as likely to get a winglet-fitted 763 on a domestic flight as you are on an international flight, but I could be wrong.
DocLightning From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 16802 posts, RR: 57 Reply 3, posted (7 months 1 week 4 days 9 hours ago) and read 4188 times:
Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 1): If I remember correctly, AA stopped the winglet program on their 763s a couple years back.
Why? Were they not happy with them? Everyone else seems happy with them.
ATL From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 68 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4022 times:
I find it odd if they stopped refitting them.. is it because they are going to retire them soon? I'm flying DFW-LAX and was curious as to what I'd expect on a 767 on that route
Super80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1637 posts, RR: 12 Reply 6, posted (7 months 1 week 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 4022 times:
Quoting ATL (Thread starter): (For example, do they fly DFW-LAX, MIA-LAX, MIA-DFW, LAX-ORD, etc..?)
They rotate through the whole system, so yes they do both domestic and international. I've done the following:
American 767's without winglets:
CDG-ORD N350AN
DFW-CDG N348AN
DFW-LAX N346AN
DFW-MIA N343AN
FRA-DFW N342AN
DFW-LAX N7375A
American 767's with winglets:
MIA-SCL N39364
LAX-DFW N373AA
MIA-ORD N353AA
So I've been on a number of international flights that were flown with a 763 not equipped with winglets, and also a couple of domestic runs with winglets.
Right now there is an AA MD-80 flying over my house.
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (7 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 3751 times:
I know JFK-SAN gets winglets about 50-60% of the time.
N243NW From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1489 posts, RR: 21 Reply 9, posted (7 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 3644 times:
The winglet program has not stopped. A freshly wingleted plane rolls out of Tulsa about every 25 days. There are currently about 32 out of 58 763s completed (55%)
The following have the winglet mod (fleet numbers only, just add AA, AN, AM to most to get the N-numbers). I may have missed one or two, but for the most part this is pretty comprehensive:
345, 351, 352, 353, 354, 356, 359, 360, 361, 362, 364, 365, 370, 372, 373, 377, 379, 380, 381, 382, 383, 385, 386, 387, 388, 389, 390, 391, 393, 394, 395, 398 (in work right now), and 399.
The fleet numbers for all 763s are easy: 342-399, no breaks in numbering.
N737AA From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 268 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (7 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2988 times:
There aren't any restricted routings for the 763's but there is some priority routing for winglet aircraft to be routed on the longer stagelenghts when possible, sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't.
N62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 3666 posts, RR: 4 Reply 11, posted (7 months 1 week 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 2858 times:
Quoting aa61hvy (Reply 2): At ORD lately it seems like 60% do have them. I actually prefer them without.
I also prefer the "classic" look of an airplane without winglets!
Quoting N243NW (Reply 9): The winglet program has not stopped. A freshly wingleted plane rolls out of Tulsa about every 25 days. There are currently about 32 out of 58 763s completed (55%)
Longhornmaniac From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 3094 posts, RR: 48 Reply 12, posted (7 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 2570 times:
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 14, posted (7 months 1 week 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 1905 times:
Is the BRU-ATL route one that is often operated by the ex-Gulf Air 767s with the door 2L? Those planes do not have winglets so it would make sense if it was.
I know the 76G have the fuel dump system, could that be why the winglets can not be installed on those?
IIRC the 76ER that has winglets do not have the capability to dump fuel.
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (7 months 1 week 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1656 times:
boeing767mech From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 992 posts, RR: 3 Reply 17, posted (7 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1362 times:
Quoting DocLightning (Reply 3): Quoting Longhornmaniac (Reply 1):If I remember correctly, AA stopped the winglet program on their 763s a couple years back.
Why? Were they not happy with them? Everyone else seems happy with them.
398 is getting winglets and MAUI (Avionics Mod) done as we speak.