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OFFICIAL: Avianca To Be The Brand For AviancaTaca  
User currently offlinemvecchi4 From Venezuela, joined Apr 2012, 89 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 1 day 2 hours ago) and read 5276 times:

Hey all,

Just saw posted in Avianca's Facebook page that Avianca will be the sole brand for the AviancaTaca Holding.

The following companies will be branded as Avianca:
Aerovías del Continente Americano S.A. Avianca and Tampa Cargo S.A., Colombia; Aerolíneas Galápagos Aerogal S.A Ecuador and all Grupo TACA airlines: TACAInternacional Airlines S.A. El Salvador, Líneas Aéreas Costarricences S.A. LACSA, Transamerican Airlines S.A.(TACA Perú) Perú, Aviateca S.A.,

https://www.facebook.com/notes/avianca/avianca-marca-comercial-%C3%BAnica-para-las-aerol%C3%ADneas-integradas-en-aviancataca-hold/10151069158821822

Regards,

Miguel

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User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2862 posts, RR: 10
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4836 times:
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What about Avianca Brazil? And what are their plans to fight TAM (LATAM) Do they plan to fly from Brazil to the world?


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User currently offlineSOUTHAMERICA From Colombia, joined Dec 2003, 2497 posts, RR: 10
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4777 times:

Official press release from Avianca's website (in Spanish):

http://www.avianca.com/NR/rdonlyres/...N38unificaci%C3%B3nmarca101012.pdf


User currently offlinemvecchi4 From Venezuela, joined Apr 2012, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4652 times:

I don't consider myself an authority on the subject but this is my appreciation from what I've read.

It is my understanding that eventually, Avianca Brazil will become a part of AviancaTaca, ergo the rebranding of OceanAir in 2010 (they use the brand for free) however, it may be a complex process to fully integrate it into AviancaTaca given that the owner of AV Brasil is Synergy and AviancaTaca is Synergy + Kingston (Kriete Family from TACA).

The same thing happens with Avianca Ecuardor (Formerly VIP) whose owner is Synergy.

At the very end, German Efromovich's intention apparently is to fully integrate those airlines into Avianca and increase competition for LATAM for a big/strong latin american brand. His strategy seems to be paying off as far as I'm concerned.

I'm happy with this change. TA is a great airline I've flown a few times, but that's the way the cookie crumbles in the airline world I guess...

Regards,

Miguel.


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2862 posts, RR: 10
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 4541 times:
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Quoting mvecchi4 (Reply 3):

Well, I happen to be a slave to Star Alliance, so I fly TAM often as I have an apartment in Rio de Janeiro. Since they are leaving Star, I will still have LH, LX, TP to Europe, so that part is covered for me, however the TAM JFK to GIG will be a bummer to loose. So I stick to United. But I would LOVE to see Avianca grow fast, have more options on the Ponte Area between RJ and SP. And if they could match most of TAM's European routes that would be a good option.

I'd love to see Avianca 777's or A350's or 787's!



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User currently offlineCRFLY From Costa Rica, joined Jan 2004, 197 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 4448 times:

So sad to see the brand TACA going, as we saw the brand LACSA going a couple of years ago! But recently, TACA is a true example of hard working, listening to frequent fliers and adapting an airline to the regional travelers' needs, with a state-of-the-art fleet, record on-time performance and awarded flight crews and service... I just hope the new Avianca will maintain the service standards and on-time performance... Welcome Avianca to our little world in Central America!


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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 24788 posts, RR: 46
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 4392 times:

I think we knew this a few months ago.

Taca Rebrand As Avianca - To Use AV Code (by LAXintl Aug 13 2012 in Civil Aviation)

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User currently offlineneveragain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 4193 times:

Quoting VC10er (Reply 1):
And what are their plans to fight TAM (LATAM) Do they plan to fly from Brazil to the world?

I hope you wouldn't expect them to post such plans on their Facebook page.


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2862 posts, RR: 10
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 4118 times:
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Quoting neveragain (Reply 7):

True. But business plan announcements are sometimes made. There are also everyone's opinions on A.net  



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User currently offlinemvecchi4 From Venezuela, joined Apr 2012, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 4006 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 6):
I think we knew this a few months ago.

Rather than knowing about it, this particular post is aimed at letting everyone know about the official annoucement.

In addition, I don't think that thread took into account the change involved Tampa Cargo and Aviateca (I have not read the entire thread), it seemed to turn into a fight in there.   

On the other hand, thanks for sharing the link, I got some more insight into the subject.

Quoting VC10er (Reply 8):
There are also everyone's opinions on A.net

That's what its all about!.


User currently offlineA388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9708 posts, RR: 11
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 3660 times:

Am I glad I've seen all these airline before they all become one brand:



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Even so, I can imagine it is a good thing to unify all these brands to one brand to better compete against LATAM.

A388


User currently offlineturk223 From Barbados, joined Aug 2003, 396 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3537 times:

Not sure if this question was answered before, but will all the airlines to receive the Avianca branding also get interior chnage-outs to match Avianca's? I hope so... I really like uniformity!

User currently offlineAwysBSB From Brazil, joined Sep 2005, 561 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 3527 times:

Standardizing the brand is much easier than growing the holding.
Avianca is a strong world-wide known and unmodified name, and focusing on it is the best thing they could do for now.
However, they had better preserving the brand TACA in regional routes in Central America and in Caribbean, where it is stronger than the brand Avianca.


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This TACA can play with the future Avianca the same way CityJet plays with Air France.


User currently offlinetroest From Denmark, joined Mar 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 5 days 2 hours ago) and read 3224 times:

Quoting turk223 (Reply 11):
Not sure if this question was answered before, but will all the airlines to receive the Avianca branding also get interior chnage-outs to match Avianca's? I hope so... I really like uniformity!

All airlines in AviancaTaca Holding will have same interior. The interior for the narrow-body fleet will have leather seats, PTVs, and mood lightning in Business and Economy class.


User currently offlinemvecchi4 From Venezuela, joined Apr 2012, 89 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2920 times:

Quoting troest (Reply 13):
The interior for the narrow-body fleet will have leather seats, PTVs, and mood lightning in Business and Economy class

I'm pretty sure this will take some time. They've taken the planes left by the former Mexicana and those do not have the PTV (for instance), but I'm sure they will be standard through the fleet in the future.


User currently offlinemotorhussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 3129 posts, RR: 9
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 2798 times:

Quoting troest (Reply 13):
The interior for the narrow-body fleet will have leather seats, PTVs, and mood lightning in Business and Economy class.

But not turboprops right?



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User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4383 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2530 times:

Quoting AwysBSB (Reply 12):
However, they had better preserving the brand TACA in regional routes in Central America

However, TACA REGIONAL is even known as either "Aviateca" from Guatemala, "La Costeña" from Nicaragua, "Sansa" from Costa Rica and so forth.

Regards.



"Goin' up to the spirit in the sky"
User currently offlineAA767LOVER From Hong Kong, joined Aug 2007, 592 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 2518 times:
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Quoting CRFLY (Reply 5):

Well, one comfort is that it wasn't bought out by COPA.
COPA is okay, but TACA is surprisingly the true rising star in Central America.
Don't take it negatively. It's going to happen as the final process of the merger.
AVIANCA may improve even better. They have LAN to fight against, especially with LIM as a major battleground and BOG in their very own backyard with LAN COLOMBIA just started not long ago.

So will they form a AVIANCA PERU regional division for all the internal flights within Peru that TACA operates now?
Most likely they will need to do this!



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User currently offlineSJOtoLIR From Costa Rica, joined Jul 2007, 4383 posts, RR: 4
Reply 18, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 2470 times:

Quoting AA767LOVER (Reply 17):
So will they form a AVIANCA PERU regional division for all the internal flights within Peru that TACA operates now

I only visualize the Avianca brand performing the current domestic flights operated by TACA in Peru.
The TACA PERU brand is not visible anymore in their planes. However, the TACA PERU designator is even available in their flights: domestic and internationally.

Regards.



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User currently offlinetroest From Denmark, joined Mar 2008, 169 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 9 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 2333 times:

Quoting motorhussy (Reply 15):
But not turboprops right?

For what I know it will be for the A319s and A320s.

Quoting troest (Reply 13):
I'm pretty sure this will take some time. They've taken the planes left by the former Mexicana and those do not have the PTV (for instance), but I'm sure they will be standard through the fleet in the future.

Not sure exactly what will happen with the ex-Mexicana planes. Either change interior or return to lessor when AV recieves more planes.


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