Hamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2657 posts, RR: 59 Posted (7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 19838 times:
The Wall Street Journal and the Seattle PI are reporting that tomorrow morning, AS will announce an order for up to 50 737-MAX's. According to the PI, the order could include more NG's as well.
BMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 14345 posts, RR: 26 Reply 2, posted (7 months 2 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 19716 times:
Quoting Hamlet69 (Thread starter): The Wall Street Journal and the Seattle PI are reporting that tomorrow morning, AS will announce an order for up to 50 737-MAX's.
Well this is about the least surprising order ever.
Why do Aerospace Engineering students have to turn things in on time?
707lvr From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 537 posts, RR: 2 Reply 6, posted (7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 19182 times:
Seattle is still a small enough burg that an order worth several billion dollars is noted and apppreciated. Especially since there are more than a few of us around these parts enjoying a very solid dividend and recognizing that we'll see an increase before too long.
I'm pretty sure that the majority of these new orders will be for MAX, considering AS already has standing orders for aircraft to be delivered through 2015. I'm guessing 40 MAX and 10 NG. I don't think any of these will be 700s, max or NG.
STT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16261 posts, RR: 52 Reply 9, posted (7 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 17943 times:
I'm going to speculate that most, if not all, will be the 737-9 MAX. The 737-900ER can, and has, operated West Coast-Hawaii. The 737-9MAX will do the same but without any of the restrictions.
flyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 852 posts, RR: 0 Reply 11, posted (7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 17041 times:
The agreement includes orders for 50 Boeing 737 aircraft firm deliveries, with the ability to purchase an additional 62 aircraft through options and purchase rights. The firm orders include 13 737-900ER aircraft, 20 737 MAX 8s, and 17 737 MAX 9s. The MAX aircraft is the new engine variant of Boeing's NextGen 737 aircraft, the company said. The aircraft subject to firm orders will be delivered between 2015 and 2022.
EA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 12561 posts, RR: 64 Reply 13, posted (7 months 2 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 16477 times:
Ok, the press release is finally out!
SEATTLE — Alaska Airlines today announced an order for 50 Boeing aircraft, including the 737 MAX—the new engine variant of the world’s best-selling airliner. The aircraft, which will be delivered between 2015 and 2022, represent the largest order in Alaska Airlines’ history and are worth $5 billion at manufacturer’s list prices.
The agreement includes firm orders for 13 Boeing Next-Generation 737-900ERs, 20 737 MAX 8s and 17 737 MAX 9s.
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JAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1192 posts, RR: 1 Reply 17, posted (7 months 2 weeks 5 hours ago) and read 14273 times:
This is a big order for AS isn't it? How many airplanes does the company operate now?
As for the 737, not the most exciting aircraft but it does what it's supposed to do. It's really remarkable how reliable modern airliners are. Style-wise, I wish they'd redesign the tail fin - I've never liked that attachment on the front that extends the tail forward on the fuselage. It's always looked like an afterthought to me.
Hamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2657 posts, RR: 59 Reply 18, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 hours ago) and read 14076 times:
Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2): Quoting Hamlet69 (Thread starter):
The Wall Street Journal and the Seattle PI are reporting that tomorrow morning, AS will announce an order for up to 50 737-MAX's.
Well this is about the least surprising order ever.
If true, it ranks as a tie with a large (and growing) list:
AirAsia - NEO
Virgin America - NEO
JetBlue - NEO
TAM - NEO
LAN - NEO
Lufthansa - NEO
Indigo - NEO
Southwest - MAX
Lion Air - MAX
Virgin Australia - MAX
GOL - MAX
LH bids the 737 off against the A320. So their orders are *very* contested and not to be taken for granted.
Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 17): I've never liked that attachment on the front that extends the tail forward on the fuselage. It's always looked like an afterthought to me.
It is an 'afterthought.' But why spend that much money on a new tail? The current tail has some grandfathered in features that make it lighter and cheaper than a redesign. Unless there is a significant performance advantage, keep with the current tail. A new taller tail (required to get rid of that 'attachment on the front') would also change the flight handling a bit. Why bother spending that money?
seabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 4277 posts, RR: 4 Reply 22, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 12500 times:
Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 17): Style-wise, I wish they'd redesign the tail fin - I've never liked that attachment on the front that extends the tail forward on the fuselage. It's always looked like an afterthought to me.
I'm fine with the tail; I wish for a new nose instead. The wing looks great and the fuselage is just a metal tube. But the 707 nose just looks old by now. (And, from what the pilots around here say, leads to a cramped, unpleasant, and noisy cockpit.)
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PacificF27 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 65 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 hours ago) and read 12358 times:
Seems as if putting a 757 nose on the 737 would be simple--same fuselage cross section. I guess Boeing doesn't see the need and customers don't either.
yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 15989 posts, RR: 59 Reply 24, posted (7 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 11495 times:
Great news for AS & B, but B is still looking for that first MAX-7 order. Not surprising it wasn't AS since they have been reducing their 73G fleet recently.
Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
25 Roseflyer: A new nose is not simple at all. It would require significant modifications to the flight deck, mechanical flight controls, relocating the electronic
26 airliner371: Of your listing all airlines with NEO and MAX orders you are missing a lot, if not I don't understand the list.
27 SANFan: Congratulations to AAG on this great news! Another positive sign of future planning, growth, and good times ahead. bb
28 BoeingGuy: Yeah, I didn't keel over in shock when I read it this morning either. I just wondered why it took this long. On what? New projected routes for the ne
30 glideslope: Beautiful, love a good Capitalist. Airbus will always be the Official Airline of the EU.
31 Hamlet69: No. I was listing the MAX/NEO orders that have been "a given" in the context of the previous pun that AS ordering 737 MAX is "shocking." I apologize
32 EA CO AS: At the meeting yesterday, we were all specifically asked not to reveal the nature of the announcement until the formal press release went out. That's
33 zeke: Only 50 ?.... so does open the door for another manufacturer ?
34 seabosdca: I wouldn't be surprised at all if the model rides quietly into the sunset. Although it has some orders, I don't think the A319neo will do well either
35 airliner371: No, Alaska is not the size of DL, WN, AA etc... so they don't need 150 planes. 50 is a lot for an airline the size AS.
36 KC135TopBoom: I didn't say that, and we are only talking about the B-737MAX/NG and A-320NEO/OEO. I believe Norwegian has both the MAX and the NEO on order. I like
37 BlatantEcho: This is great news. As a loyal AS flyer, I am impressed with their growth and profitability. Would love to see some up gauging out of PDX and more rou
38 JAAlbert: Hey a guy can dream can't he? Interesting though that the tail is grandfathered in and is lighter as a result. So what you're suggesting then is that
39 alaska737: Just a slight correction, they actually have 5 combi's. I have heard rumors that maybe some -700's will have a cargo door installed and replace some
40 BoeingGuy: I've wondered this too. I assume that most of it is just that AS finds the 737 series the best airplane for their fleet (just like GOL in Brazil does
41 flybynight: It does bring up an interesting point. The 737 has looked pretty much the same since the 300's came around. Sure some are longer and some are shorter.
42 cargolex: I'm about 99.9% sure my first ride on a 737 max will be on one of these aircraft ordered today, so it's good news to my ears. Congrats to Boeing and A
43 BoeingGuy: Another thing I've been told is that the FAA will no longer certify Convertible Combis, like the old AS 737-200s or KLM 747-400 Convertible Combis. I
44 JetAmericaS80: You all are missing the point... Bingo! KC135 hit the nail right on the head! So this may not be UA/DL/AA announcing yet ANOTHER triple digit aircraf
45 AeroWesty: The nose was modernized a few years back, with the removal of the eyebrow windows.
46 cubastar: Actually, the announcement from Boeing and Alaska said that there were 62 additional Options and Purchase Rights.
47 EA CO AS: Two-thirds of these 50 new planes will be replacements of 734s, 73Gs, and the original non-ER 739s. Then keep in mind, there are already 25 existing
48 HiFlyerAS: Very exciting news for all AS fans and employees! The range of the 737MAX exceeds that of the current -800 and -900ER fleet by approximately 500 nauti
49 BoeingGuy: Care to share? I can see some more destinations from SEA (PIT, CLT, SLC, OKC, TPA, MSY, etc). I would also expect maybe connecting the dots with some
50 Roseflyer: Exterior cosmetic appearance is so low of a priority it is almost nonexistant when designing an airplane. Interior cosmetics are more important and t
52 BoeingGuy: As long as you guys remain an independent AS, I'll be happy.
53 Prost: I wonder if some non ER 737-900 would fit well at DL for ATL-FL (state) short haul tourist traffic? That is, if AS were to retire the fleet while the
54 HiFlyerAS: I think it'll be incremental growth rather than anything sudden or monumental. I think over the next few years you'll see a combination of new cities
55 JetAmericaS80: Thanks you. Yes, EA CO AS is correct. We have a "gag order", but I promise you the new changes all sound exciting. It is really exciting to see manag
56 nipoel123: These aircraft don't have a moveable bulkhead. Their cargo compartent size is fixed. Could AS at some point start an FI like operation, connecting No
57 TrijetsRMissed: Great news for AS and Boeing. No matter how predictable, a 50 firm + 60 option order is noteworthy. To the AS following: Do you think this increases t
58 alaska737: Well it can't right now but that was the same story when AS started its' -400 conversion, so it is possible. Yeah that was the biggest loss when the
59 HNL-Jack: I would think this order will mean we'll see more 900's in Hawaii. They could use the additional seats. And, when the MAX arrives I would expect Hawai
60 EA CO AS: The officers have repeatedly stated that steady, organic growth is their preferred method to grow the business, and this order provides them with the
61 chrisair: Dear Alaska Airlines: Please send one more plane to Tucson. I have been asking nicely for the last six years and you continually tease me with an occa