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BREAKING: AS To Order Up To 50 737-MAX's  
User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2745 posts, RR: 58
Posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 21752 times:

The Wall Street Journal and the Seattle PI are reporting that tomorrow morning, AS will announce an order for up to 50 737-MAX's. According to the PI, the order could include more NG's as well.

More to come. . .


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User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7859 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 21633 times:

This is excellent news for B and AS!   

Wonder if this will mean extended routes.



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User currently offlineBMI727 From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 15812 posts, RR: 27
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 21630 times:

Quoting Hamlet69 (Thread starter):
The Wall Street Journal and the Seattle PI are reporting that tomorrow morning, AS will announce an order for up to 50 737-MAX's.

Well this is about the least surprising order ever.



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User currently offlineDoubleDelta From United States of America, joined Jul 2012, 44 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 21357 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):
Well this is about the least surprising order ever.

   My sentiments exactly!



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User currently offlineDeltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 9672 posts, RR: 14
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 21310 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):

and the sky is blue.....

anyways congrats to AS, its employees, Boeing and its employees.  



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User currently offlinegarpd From UK - Scotland, joined Aug 2005, 2697 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 21215 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):

Well this is about the least surprising order ever.

Eh, so?
Does that mean anything different to the order book, share prices or Boeing's bank balance? Nah.

An order is an order.



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User currently offline707lvr From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 585 posts, RR: 2
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 21096 times:

Seattle is still a small enough burg that an order worth several billion dollars is noted and apppreciated. Especially since there are more than a few of us around these parts enjoying a very solid dividend and recognizing that we'll see an increase before too long.

User currently offlineJulian773 From Australia, joined Aug 2009, 118 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 20869 times:

Agree with BMI727.

wonder what the breakdown is of the -8, -9 is and if there are any 737-7 on order, too.


User currently offlineas77w From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 35 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 20182 times:

Quoting Julian773 (Reply 7):

I'm pretty sure that the majority of these new orders will be for MAX, considering AS already has standing orders for aircraft to be delivered through 2015. I'm guessing 40 MAX and 10 NG. I don't think any of these will be 700s, max or NG.


User currently offlineSTT757 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 16892 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 19857 times:

I'm going to speculate that most, if not all, will be the 737-9 MAX. The 737-900ER can, and has, operated West Coast-Hawaii. The 737-9MAX will do the same but without any of the restrictions.


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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13704 posts, RR: 61
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 19568 times:
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We've been sworn to secrecy...   


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User currently offlineflyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1221 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 18955 times:

The agreement includes orders for 50 Boeing 737 aircraft firm deliveries, with the ability to purchase an additional 62 aircraft through options and purchase rights. The firm orders include 13 737-900ER aircraft, 20 737 MAX 8s, and 17 737 MAX 9s. The MAX aircraft is the new engine variant of Boeing's NextGen 737 aircraft, the company said. The aircraft subject to firm orders will be delivered between 2015 and 2022.


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User currently offlinePIEAvantiP180 From United States of America, joined Sep 2009, 557 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 18931 times:
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Quoting Julian773 (Reply 7):
wonder what the breakdown is of the -8, -9 is and if there are any 737-7 on order, too.

well it looks like it will be 13x 739ER, 20x Max8 and 17x Max9.
with 62 options and purchase rights.

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/alaska...-purchase-agreement-102412242.html


User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13704 posts, RR: 61
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 18391 times:
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Ok, the press release is finally out!

SEATTLE — Alaska Airlines today announced an order for 50 Boeing aircraft, including the 737 MAX—the new engine variant of the world’s best-selling airliner. The aircraft, which will be delivered between 2015 and 2022, represent the largest order in Alaska Airlines’ history and are worth $5 billion at manufacturer’s list prices.
The agreement includes firm orders for 13 Boeing Next-Generation 737-900ERs, 20 737 MAX 8s and 17 737 MAX 9s.



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User currently offlineEA CO AS From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 13704 posts, RR: 61
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 18051 times:
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Some images from yesterday's meeting where the order was announced; this was one of the models presented to CEO Brad Tilden and CFO Brandon Pedersen:

http://imageshack.us/a/img694/7310/737max1.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img11/9458/737max3.jpg
http://imageshack.us/a/img255/2185/737max2.jpg



And here's the video of the actual announcement to our group yesterday:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oQAwiHaWpNE&feature=plcp



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User currently offlineba319-131 From United Kingdom, joined Jan 2001, 8578 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 17343 times:
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Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):
Well this is about the least surprising order ever.

- Well said, quite amusing  

Congrats to Boeing on another MAX order.



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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31259 posts, RR: 85
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 16188 times:
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Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):
Well this is about the least surprising order ever.

I'd give that to WN and FR.

Still, it's a positive sign for AS that they feel confident enough to place such a large order (almost 40% of their current fleet size).


User currently offlineJAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1623 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 16187 times:

This is a big order for AS isn't it? How many airplanes does the company operate now?

As for the 737, not the most exciting aircraft but it does what it's supposed to do. It's really remarkable how reliable modern airliners are. Style-wise, I wish they'd redesign the tail fin - I've never liked that attachment on the front that extends the tail forward on the fuselage. It's always looked like an afterthought to me.


User currently offlineHamlet69 From United States of America, joined Mar 2000, 2745 posts, RR: 58
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 15990 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):
Quoting Hamlet69 (Thread starter):
The Wall Street Journal and the Seattle PI are reporting that tomorrow morning, AS will announce an order for up to 50 737-MAX's.

Well this is about the least surprising order ever.

If true, it ranks as a tie with a large (and growing) list:

AirAsia - NEO
Virgin America - NEO
JetBlue - NEO
TAM - NEO
LAN - NEO
Lufthansa - NEO
Indigo - NEO

Southwest - MAX
Lion Air - MAX
Virgin Australia - MAX
GOL - MAX


Hamlet 69



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User currently offlineKC135TopBoom From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12173 posts, RR: 51
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 15918 times:

Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):
Well this is about the least surprising order ever.

Well what about the LH order for the NEO, or any other EU based airline ordering the NEO?

It is great news for the MAX program and for AS.


User currently offlinesirtoby From Germany, joined Nov 2007, 384 posts, RR: 22
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 15706 times:

Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 19):
Well what about the LH order for the NEO, or any other EU based airline ordering the NEO?

So you think the MAX will never get a european customer?
"Surprisingly" LH ordered the B747-8I...and BA the 787-8/9...


User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13441 posts, RR: 100
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 15541 times:
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Quoting BMI727 (Reply 2):
Well this is about the least surprising order ever.

   Ok, I was surprised at the number. Not the type, but the quantity.

But still a fun response by you.  
Quoting KC135TopBoom (Reply 19):
Well what about the LH order for the NEO

LH bids the 737 off against the A320. So their orders are *very* contested and not to be taken for granted.

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 17):
I've never liked that attachment on the front that extends the tail forward on the fuselage. It's always looked like an afterthought to me.

It is an 'afterthought.' But why spend that much money on a new tail? The current tail has some grandfathered in features that make it lighter and cheaper than a redesign. Unless there is a significant performance advantage, keep with the current tail. A new taller tail (required to get rid of that 'attachment on the front') would also change the flight handling a bit. Why bother spending that money?

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User currently offlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5768 posts, RR: 6
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 14414 times:

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 17):
Style-wise, I wish they'd redesign the tail fin - I've never liked that attachment on the front that extends the tail forward on the fuselage. It's always looked like an afterthought to me.

I'm fine with the tail; I wish for a new nose instead. The wing looks great and the fuselage is just a metal tube. But the 707 nose just looks old by now. (And, from what the pilots around here say, leads to a cramped, unpleasant, and noisy cockpit.)


User currently offlinePacificF27 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 69 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 14272 times:
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Seems as if putting a 757 nose on the 737 would be simple--same fuselage cross section. I guess Boeing doesn't see the need and customers don't either.


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User currently offlineyyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16335 posts, RR: 56
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 13409 times:

Great news for AS & B, but B is still looking for that first MAX-7 order. Not surprising it wasn't AS since they have been reducing their 73G fleet recently.


Panam, TWA, Ansett, Eastern.......AC next? Might be good for Canada.
25 Roseflyer : A new nose is not simple at all. It would require significant modifications to the flight deck, mechanical flight controls, relocating the electronic
26 airliner371 : Of your listing all airlines with NEO and MAX orders you are missing a lot, if not I don't understand the list.
27 SANFan : Congratulations to AAG on this great news! Another positive sign of future planning, growth, and good times ahead. bb
28 BoeingGuy : Yeah, I didn't keel over in shock when I read it this morning either. I just wondered why it took this long. On what? New projected routes for the ne
29 southwest737500 : CLT,PIT
30 Post contains images glideslope : Beautiful, love a good Capitalist. Airbus will always be the Official Airline of the EU.
31 Hamlet69 : No. I was listing the MAX/NEO orders that have been "a given" in the context of the previous pun that AS ordering 737 MAX is "shocking." I apologize
32 EA CO AS : At the meeting yesterday, we were all specifically asked not to reveal the nature of the announcement until the formal press release went out. That's
33 zeke : Only 50 ?.... so does open the door for another manufacturer ?
34 Post contains images seabosdca : I wouldn't be surprised at all if the model rides quietly into the sunset. Although it has some orders, I don't think the A319neo will do well either
35 airliner371 : No, Alaska is not the size of DL, WN, AA etc... so they don't need 150 planes. 50 is a lot for an airline the size AS.
36 KC135TopBoom : I didn't say that, and we are only talking about the B-737MAX/NG and A-320NEO/OEO. I believe Norwegian has both the MAX and the NEO on order. I like
37 BlatantEcho : This is great news. As a loyal AS flyer, I am impressed with their growth and profitability. Would love to see some up gauging out of PDX and more rou
38 JAAlbert : Hey a guy can dream can't he? Interesting though that the tail is grandfathered in and is lighter as a result. So what you're suggesting then is that
39 alaska737 : Just a slight correction, they actually have 5 combi's. I have heard rumors that maybe some -700's will have a cargo door installed and replace some
40 BoeingGuy : I've wondered this too. I assume that most of it is just that AS finds the 737 series the best airplane for their fleet (just like GOL in Brazil does
41 flybynight : It does bring up an interesting point. The 737 has looked pretty much the same since the 300's came around. Sure some are longer and some are shorter.
42 cargolex : I'm about 99.9% sure my first ride on a 737 max will be on one of these aircraft ordered today, so it's good news to my ears. Congrats to Boeing and A
43 BoeingGuy : Another thing I've been told is that the FAA will no longer certify Convertible Combis, like the old AS 737-200s or KLM 747-400 Convertible Combis. I
44 Post contains images JetAmericaS80 : You all are missing the point... Bingo! KC135 hit the nail right on the head! So this may not be UA/DL/AA announcing yet ANOTHER triple digit aircraf
45 AeroWesty : The nose was modernized a few years back, with the removal of the eyebrow windows.
46 cubastar : Actually, the announcement from Boeing and Alaska said that there were 62 additional Options and Purchase Rights.
47 EA CO AS : Two-thirds of these 50 new planes will be replacements of 734s, 73Gs, and the original non-ER 739s. Then keep in mind, there are already 25 existing
48 HiFlyerAS : Very exciting news for all AS fans and employees! The range of the 737MAX exceeds that of the current -800 and -900ER fleet by approximately 500 nauti
49 BoeingGuy : Care to share? I can see some more destinations from SEA (PIT, CLT, SLC, OKC, TPA, MSY, etc). I would also expect maybe connecting the dots with some
50 Roseflyer : Exterior cosmetic appearance is so low of a priority it is almost nonexistant when designing an airplane. Interior cosmetics are more important and t
51 Post contains images EA CO AS : Can't publicly share just yet.
52 Post contains images BoeingGuy : As long as you guys remain an independent AS, I'll be happy.
53 Prost : I wonder if some non ER 737-900 would fit well at DL for ATL-FL (state) short haul tourist traffic? That is, if AS were to retire the fleet while the
54 HiFlyerAS : I think it'll be incremental growth rather than anything sudden or monumental. I think over the next few years you'll see a combination of new cities
55 JetAmericaS80 : Thanks you. Yes, EA CO AS is correct. We have a "gag order", but I promise you the new changes all sound exciting. It is really exciting to see manag
56 nipoel123 : These aircraft don't have a moveable bulkhead. Their cargo compartent size is fixed. Could AS at some point start an FI like operation, connecting No
57 TrijetsRMissed : Great news for AS and Boeing. No matter how predictable, a 50 firm + 60 option order is noteworthy. To the AS following: Do you think this increases t
58 alaska737 : Well it can't right now but that was the same story when AS started its' -400 conversion, so it is possible. Yeah that was the biggest loss when the
59 HNL-Jack : I would think this order will mean we'll see more 900's in Hawaii. They could use the additional seats. And, when the MAX arrives I would expect Hawai
60 Post contains images EA CO AS : The officers have repeatedly stated that steady, organic growth is their preferred method to grow the business, and this order provides them with the
61 Post contains images chrisair : Dear Alaska Airlines: Please send one more plane to Tucson. I have been asking nicely for the last six years and you continually tease me with an occa
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