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VH-OEB/C/D - Delivery Configuration  
User currently offlinejackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 668 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 2614 times:

When VH-OEB-D "the ugly sisters" were acquired by QF, were they in full MH/OZ configuration, a "hybrid" layout with QF seats and the galleys of their respective original owners, or were they converted to a standard QF cabin?

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User currently offlinetod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1729 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 2483 times:

After a short time in service they were all reconfigured to one of the standard QF configurations at the Avalon airbase.

Flight Stuructures Inc and Heath Tecna did the engineering for the mod.


User currently offlineqfatwa From New Zealand, joined Jun 1999, 738 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 2209 times:

They were flown in the configurations and product as bought - either MH or OZ. Their first routes were MEL-AKL-LAX and return where they were isolated.

Cabin crew were briefed prior to departures and a support team of crew advisers were based in Auckland for about 2 weeks to go on the aircraft with each crew and highlight specifics and variations and tricks and tips to work these very non standrard aircraft.

The travellers were underwhelmed by the non standard product.

It was great as each went off for "Qantasification"!


User currently offlineIDAWA From Italy, joined Aug 2004, 303 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2079 times:

I flew on OEC in 2001 - route SYD-SIN-CDG
Apparently it has already been "Qantasified" at the time, and released to normal schedule



Flown on: 319, 320, 321, 340, 727, 737, 747, 757, 767, 777, DC9, D10, M11, M80, 146, EM2, BEH, CRJ, DH8, L4T.
User currently offlineBA174 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 765 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2023 times:

Anyone know why one of these (don't know which) has remained in service when standard QF RR powered aircraft have been stored? Is that aircraft not a oddball? Of course the 4ERS have GE engines but not exactly the same type as the ex-MH aircraft.

User currently offlinejackbr From Australia, joined Dec 2009, 668 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

Apparently OEC/D were found to have significant corrosion during their last D check, apparently stemming to how the paint was stripped by MH. OEB, being an ex-OZ machine, did not have this issue

Please correct me if this is wrong


User currently offlineqfatwa From New Zealand, joined Jun 1999, 738 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 1950 times:

OEB - the Asiana aircraft remains in service.

I don't know why.


User currently offlinetim From Australia, joined Jun 2000, 705 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1823 times:

OEB is in better condition than C&D was. The GE powered machines are better for the Pacific runs than the RR's so she fits in with QF's other 6 GE 744ER's.

User currently offlinetod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1729 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 1779 times:

Quoting IDAWA (Reply 3):
I flew on OEC in 2001 - route SYD-SIN-CDG
Apparently it has already been "Qantasified" at the time, and released to normal schedule

Reconfigured in 1999 (or early 2000)


User currently offlinesmi0006 From Australia, joined Jan 2008, 1546 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

Quoting jackbr (Reply 5):
Apparently OEC/D were found to have significant corrosion during their last D check, apparently stemming to how the paint was stripped by MH. OEB, being an ex-OZ machine, did not have this issue

Please correct me if this is wrong

I recall that, I think who ever removed the paint did so with a sharp implement and scratched the sheeting. If I recall it was under the tail... but that is only vague memories.

I think even after their interiors had been modified the crew still didn't like them, they seemed prone to break downs and faults. They were nicknames the three ugly sisters.


User currently offlineqf002 From Australia, joined Jul 2011, 2994 posts, RR: 2
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 1495 times:

Quoting BA174 (Reply 4):
Anyone know why one of these (don't know which) has remained in service when standard QF RR powered aircraft have been stored?

Probably because the RR aircraft have come up to a D check while OEB still has time left in her before the airline has to spend money to keep her flying. I'm sure she'd already be gone if she was the only GE powered frame left, but as you point out, she's not a complete oddball.


User currently offlineTod From Denmark, joined Aug 2004, 1729 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 1439 times:

Quoting smi0006 (Reply 9):
I think even after their interiors had been modified the crew still didn't like them, they seemed prone to break downs and faults. They were nicknames the three ugly sisters.

Bummer because the cabin functionality should have been comparable to the rest of th QF fleet. I know that after the reconfigs, the pax cabin related mechanical systems were as good or better than the rest of the QF744.


User currently offlineBA174 From United Kingdom, joined Oct 2009, 765 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 1 week 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 1357 times:

So now do these aircraft compare to G-BNLH when it first came into service config wise? I know despite the RR engines the internal BA equipment was totally different to QFs. I know many QF staff were more than pleased to see it fly back to the motherland at the end of it's lease.

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