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TAM Emergency Landing At GIG This Morning  
User currently offlinevarigb707 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 4418 times:

JJ 8055 CDG/GIG A330

http://g1.globo.com/rio-de-janeiro/n...o-que-teve-pane-chegam-cidade.html
(original report in Portuguese. Translation made possible by Google Translate)

"Passengers on a flight from TAM had a crash near Paris, and had to make emergency landing, arrived early on Friday (12) International Airport Tom Jobim / Galeao in Rio de Janeiro. And was told how the drama inside the plane, as shown by the Good Day River
The flight arrived in Rio this morning at 1:26 a.m., with almost two hours late. Relatives looked forward to landing.
The TAM flight 8055 took off from Charles de Gaulle Airport, France. The trip, straight to Rio de Janeiro, was to last 11 hours and a half. But 17 minutes later, the Airbus A330 made an emergency landing at Charles de Gaulle again.
Passengers reported a noise in the right engine of the aircraft. Soon after, the cabin lights went out and the commander warned that the plane would return.
"The turbine exploded right. There was a deafening noise. Passegeiros The remained calm, inexplicably. But there was panic, there was crying, there was shock. Commander was a skill mad because the plane began to shake a lot to the right and left, losing altitude, turn the nozzle down and he, with an extraordinary mastery, balanced and stuff. He said nothing. was thought that the flight would follow its normal course, when he warned: I missed the turbine the right and we'll return to Paris, "said one passenger.
 
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Another passenger reported: "There was a smell. You do not know what it was. Was really scary. I thought the plane was going down. ... I did a prayer was what I did at the time."

They also have the landing in France was tense, but no problems.
TAM reported that all were accommodated in hotels in the airport area and received assistance from the company.
"I was in the hallway and I saw them for a moment, turned off the lights and lit emergency corridor. An absolute silence by the plane. And everyone thought it was going to die anyway," reported a third passenger.
TAM confirmed that there was a crash caused by a great variation in pressure inside an engine. But engineers are still analyzing what caused the crash.
The return to Rio was a relief after the scare.
"People have remained a bit quiet. But it was hard, very hard.'s Good to be back in Brazil," said a passenger.
TAM said it remains A330 at Paris for analysis of the company's engineers. According to the TAM plane was manufactured 12 years ago and the maintenance was up to date."

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User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 1, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4396 times:

Quoting varigb707 (Thread starter):
Translation made possible by Google Translate)

And it is really a mess.

So

1 - engine problems after takeoff from CDG
2 - sensationalism of the media about the relativley routine return to CDG for landing
3 - the pax were placed on another aircraft TAM had in Paris, and arrived at GIG only two hours late

That is extremely efficient.


User currently offlinealoges From Germany, joined Jan 2006, 8759 posts, RR: 42
Reply 2, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 4254 times:

Quote:
O comandante foi de uma habilidade louca porque o avião começou a balançar muito para a direita e para a esquerda, a perder altitude, a virar o bico para baixo e ele, com uma maestria extraordinária, equilibrou e coisa e tal.

"The pilot had some crazy skills because the plane started to roll a lot to the right and the left, and lost altitude, and the nose pointed down and he, with extraordinary mastery, like, equilibrated the thing and so on."

Once upon a time, it was the job of the journalists to filter out (perfectly understandable) emotions and report factual information.



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User currently offlineRodRB From Brazil, joined Feb 2010, 125 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (2 years 2 months 6 days 8 hours ago) and read 4230 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 1):
the pax were placed on another aircraft TAM had in Paris, and arrived at GIG only two hours late

They arrived 20 hours late. Check the report from The Aviation Herald:

http://avherald.com/h?article=45743186&opt=0

TAM did what had to be done, but it's the second major problem with a TAM A330 recently.

I also had a problem with PT-MVE last year. We were flying back from JFK and the aircraft had a electrical problem and the main cabin remained dark from Venezuela to Rio, more than 4 hours. It was a bit scary.


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2979 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 6 hours ago) and read 3584 times:
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I am not superstitious but there is an odd series of coincidences on the Rio/Paris route. Three weeks ago I flew GIG to CDG on a TAM A330. (a very nice flight in business)

* First was VARIG's worst crash in 1972: after taking off from CDG an RG 707 caught fire and tried to return to CDG but didn't make it killing either all aboard or almost all. The pictures are horrible. Then AF 447. Now this. It's not that 3 incidents over 40 years, it's the fact it's the Rio de Janeiro / Paris route. Thank God nobody was hurt.

Naturally I would fly the route again, I don't think it's got a curse. But just odd.

* I am not sure if the RG crash in Africa was worse, nor do I recall the route.



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User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3568 times:

If the emergency landing was in CDG, shouldn't the title of the thread be changed to say that?

Either way, must've been pretty scary to be on that plane. TAM hasn't been having the best luck lately.


User currently offlineRafabozzolla From Brazil, joined Apr 2000, 1238 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days 5 hours ago) and read 3510 times:

Quoting VC10er (Reply 4):

The crash was near ORY, and CDG didn't exist at the time.


User currently offlineVC10er From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 2979 posts, RR: 13
Reply 7, posted (2 years 2 months 5 days ago) and read 3331 times:
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Quoting Rafabozzolla (Reply 6):

Obrigado for the facts!!!



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User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 3278 times:

Quoting rfields5421 (Reply 1):
That is extremely efficient.

They have to, or the brazilians will set fire on everything... you gotta work with them to see!

Quoting RodRB (Reply 3):
I also had a problem with PT-MVE last year. We were flying back from JFK and the aircraft had a electrical problem and the main cabin remained dark from Venezuela to Rio, more than 4 hours. It was a bit scary.

I had several posts deleted or moderated because I did state that: Although mechanical failures happens on every single airlines, JJ maintenance's reputation in brazil is very INfamous, things seem to only happen to JJ here, is it any wonder?


User currently offlinesciurusmdg From Argentina, joined Apr 2012, 60 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 3119 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 8):
JJ maintenance's reputation in brazil is very INfamous, things seem to only happen to JJ here

This is an extremely COMMON event, one that rarely results in a dangerous situation for anyone and that happens almost every day to aircraft

JJ maintenance is not infamous in any way, and these things do not only happen to them. I work in aviation in Latin America and TAM (now LATAMs) maintenance is first class, as are the pilots. I would fly them over certain EU airlines any day.

(As a note, I don't work for LatAm either!!)


User currently offlinevarig md-11 From France, joined Jul 2000, 1605 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 3085 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 8):
JJ maintenance's reputation in brazil is very INfamous

I don't know what is going on in Brazil but I know JJ chief engineer personally at CDG.
He's a very serious guy and loves his job. Maintenance from here is 1st class.



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User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 652 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 2944 times:

Quoting sciurusmdg (Reply 9):
JJ maintenance is not infamous in any way

Really? so why Avianca Brazil former Oceanair used to call their Fokker-100, MK-27? Because the mishaps with JJ's fokkers were so frequent that the people and media started to make a lot of noise about it, and this noise became fear, I avoid JJ at all costs! and then you may ask, but it was fokker's problems not JJ's, my uncle was mechanic at JJ's and JJ blames fokker and fokker blames JJ and so on!  
Quoting sciurusmdg (Reply 9):
maintenance is first class, as are the pilots

Missing approaches, striking trees, bombs issues aboard, Running over a cow due to miscalculating the gas needed on the route, you should do some google search! lots of lives were lost in only 36 years of history? I'll stick to the european airlines thank you!

Quoting varig md-11 (Reply 10):

I imagine there are good techs around! but the best ones go to the one with highest salaries.....


User currently offlineDellatorre From Brazil, joined May 2000, 1088 posts, RR: 2
Reply 12, posted (2 years 2 months 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 2851 times:

Quoting andrefranca (Reply 11):

Quoting sciurusmdg (Reply 9):
JJ maintenance is not infamous in any way

Really? so why Avianca Brazil former Oceanair used to call their Fokker-100, MK-27? Because the mishaps with JJ's fokkers were so frequent that the people and media started to make a lot of noise about it, and this noise became fear, I avoid JJ at all costs! and then you may ask, but it was fokker's problems not JJ's, my uncle was mechanic at JJ's and JJ blames fokker and fokker blames JJ and so on!  
Quoting sciurusmdg (Reply 9):
maintenance is first class, as are the pilots

Missing approaches, striking trees, bombs issues aboard, Running over a cow due to miscalculating the gas needed on the route, you should do some google search! lots of lives were lost in only 36 years of history? I'll stick to the european airlines thank you!

Quoting varig md-11 (Reply 10):

I imagine there are good techs around! but the best ones go to the one with highest salaries.....

I think you've made your point already! Anything else you wanna share????


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