AMX748 From Mexico, joined Jan 2008, 54 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 months 2 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4942 times:
Hi everybody!
According to flightradar24, flight CZ 327 is overflying the neighborhoods of Shangai at this time. Speed 563 knots, FL 311 (aprox. 9500 m, remember China airspace is in meters, not feet). In 11 hours more it will be landing at LAX.
¿How do you think this new aircraft will operate from LAX? ¿Is there too much offer? Greetings!
AMX748 From Mexico, joined Jan 2008, 54 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (7 months 2 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 4772 times:
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 2): Their current 777 operation isn't that full, just recently got up to daily service, and CAN is poisonous to US carriers apparently. Good luck!
Poisonous??!! I didn't get it! Is there a hub of Chinese aviation mafia or something like that?
justinlee From China, joined Aug 2012, 306 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4336 times:
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 6): NW/DL has never made it work, UA stopped trying, even many EU carriers have reduced or dropped CAN.
CAN is just too close to HKG. But the CZ changed a lot recent years and they are aggressively promoting their 380 routes, especially CAN-LAX. The service quality is really good on their 380! I hope they can work because they are actually far better than CA or MU considering the service. Just take a look at some trip reports on their 380 on A-net like this:
phxa340 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 624 posts, RR: 1 Reply 9, posted (7 months 2 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 4219 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8): Considering their LAX flight has operated year to date with mere 48.2% LF using a 777-200, the A380 is a needless flood of capacity on the route.
CZ is flooding the market with cheap fares out of LAX. You can connect to SYD, DPS, PKT, for hundreds less than on other other airlines. I am with you , they might fill the plane but at horrible yields.
Darksnowynight From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 982 posts, RR: 1 Reply 10, posted (7 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 4182 times:
Quoting LAXintl (Reply 8):
Considering their LAX flight has operated year to date with mere 48.2% LF using a 777-200, the A380 is a needless flood of capacity on the route.
You're probably right. But I hope they keep it just the same. It's a good opportunity to work the type, since China Southern is one of ours at that station.
Sooo... Anyone headed out to Proud Bird or Imperial Hill to watch her come in?
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hhslax2 From Bahrain, joined Jan 2012, 93 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (7 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 4003 times:
The flight would do better if the not needing a transit visa went smoother. All 3 people I know that transited via China in the past 2 years have had a horrible time getting from one flight to the next (delayed by police, hassled as to why they didn't have a visa). I know 3 is not many, but when hearing this and knowing the ease of transiting other Asian airports; you look elsewhere.
justinlee From China, joined Aug 2012, 306 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (7 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 3853 times:
Quoting hhslax2 (Reply 12): The flight would do better if the not needing a transit visa went smoother. All 3 people I know that transited via China in the past 2 years have had a horrible time getting from one flight to the next (delayed by police, hassled as to why they didn't have a visa). I know 3 is not many, but when hearing this and knowing the ease of transiting other Asian airports; you look elsewhere.
Actually there is a 24 hours transit without visa arrangement in China's 3 main airports (PEK,PVG,CAN). But the passengers still need to pass the passport check due to the design of the airport (the departure flow and arrival flow is seperated in different floors). And the police is always in lack of efficiency...For example, check this:
AMX748 From Mexico, joined Jan 2008, 54 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (7 months 1 week 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 1777 times:
Well, in my point of view, here is the best video which shows the work of landing gear cushions absorbing the impact of touchdown.
At this time, this A380 if flying back to CAN, about 160 miles west of Anadyr (DYR) Russia. Meanwhile, today evening arrval A380 is overflying Pudong airport.
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 2): Their current 777 operation isn't that full...
Quoting phxa340 (Reply 9): CZ is flooding the market with cheap fares out of LAX. You can connect to SYD, DPS, PKT, for hundreds less than on other other airlines. I am with you , they might fill the plane but at horrible yields.
In advance of introducing the A380 CAN-LAX-CAN, CZ had economy promo fares of USD $700.00 r/t. Domestic connections ex-CAN....free!!!
With a choice between changing one's mind & proving there's no need to do so, most everyone gets busy on the proof.
justinlee From China, joined Aug 2012, 306 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (7 months 1 week 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1565 times:
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 2): Their current 777 operation isn't that full, just recently got up to daily service, and CAN is poisonous to US carriers apparently. Good luck!
I check the system and the load factor is pretty good at least in first 3 days.
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CZ is flooding the market with cheap fares out of LAX. You can connect to SYD, DPS, PKT, for hundreds less than on other other airlines. I am with you , they might fill the plane but at horrible yields.
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