TWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 636 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6186 times:
Hello,
Yesterday, when flying Delta from DEN-DTW, I noticed a Delta A320 with the registration NXXXNC. Why wouldn't this aircraft have the NW registration number, or Delta? Did North Central or Republic order A320s? I find it hard to believe that NC would have, I don't even think the aircraft was in development when they changed their name to Republic.
TWA1985 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 636 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6138 times:
Thanks, is that the only aircraft with the NC registration? Also, I'm not sure if you can help me with this, but I forgot to look at the registration number of the DC-9-50 that operated Delta 2165 (DTW-ORD) yesterday (10/15/12). Thanks.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21229 posts, RR: 19 Reply 3, posted (7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6122 times:
Ship 3275 (N375NC) carries an -NC registration, presumably because N375US and N375NW were taken. The other 320s all carry -US or -NW registrations. With a couple of exceptions, Ships 3201 to 3225 are -US and the remainder are -NW.
All 319s carry -NB registrations, sequential starting with N301NB. All 330s carry -NW registrations (the 333s begin at N801NW, the 332s at N850NW). The 744s are similarly sequential starting with N661US. PMNW 757s start sequentially at N501US and, similar to the 320s, jump over to N5xxNW registrations around Ship 5650. 753s are N581NW to N596NW. I will not attempt to explain the -9s, as they are a mess.
[Edited 2012-10-16 14:53:31]
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spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 4, posted (7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6119 times:
Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 2): Thanks, and how did you know the aircraft number was 375? I just found the slip of paper it was scribbled on after posting this and you are correct!
I found it on airfleets.net. If you type in Delta on the search bar and choose Delta Airlines it will bring you to a sheet with all their fleet info (past/present) and this should be sufficient!
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21465 posts, RR: 24 Reply 6, posted (7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6082 times:
Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 1): I don't know why the registration is N375NC though.
Simple reason. At the time the NW A320 was delivered, N375NW was assigned to a Gulfstream G-3 business jet. It was re-registered N375LT at some point and N375NW is currently unassigned according to the FAA registry database.
spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1 Reply 7, posted (7 months 6 days 14 hours ago) and read 6038 times:
Quoting Polot (Reply 5):
A small correction: it was delivered in 2002.
Whoops, hit the wrong key! Thanks for pointing that out!
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 6): Simple reason. At the time the NW A320 was delivered, N375NW was assigned to a Gulfstream G-3 business jet. It was re-registered N375LT at some point and N375NW is currently unassigned according to the FAA registry database.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21229 posts, RR: 19 Reply 9, posted (7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5970 times:
Quoting CONTACREW (Reply 8): There's also A320 Tail #3250 which is N350NA.
Looks like a similar situation to 3275, as there's a Bonanza that carries N350NW. It is apparently located at the bottom of Lake Norman, North Carolina at present.
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ScottB From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 6358 posts, RR: 34 Reply 11, posted (7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5872 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 3): I will not attempt to explain the -9s, as they are a mess.
To the best of my knowledge, they carry the registration from their previous owners: NC for North Central, MC for Muse Air/TranStar, & EA for Eastern. Not sure I know the reason for N600TR, though.
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21229 posts, RR: 19 Reply 12, posted (7 months 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 5835 times:
Quoting ScottB (Reply 11): To the best of my knowledge, they carry the registration from their previous owners: NC for North Central, MC for Muse Air/TranStar, & EA for Eastern. Not sure I know the reason for N600TR, though.
For the NC/MC/EA birds, that's correct. I think that's all the -50s except the aforementioned N600TR, which I just flew a few months ago IIRC. I think all -40s carried N7xxNW registrations, beginning with N750NW. The -10s and -30s were really the ones that were a mess; many registrations that ended in -E and -U and there were even a couple that were all numbers like N9333.
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Don't know why it's NC in the first place but to answer the question that may pop up, why isn't it DL or DA now or something, DL really doesn't care about regs. They have some pretty strange ones out there. Kinda makes my OCD sad but I guess they're smart to not waste money on something dumb like that
FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6517 posts, RR: 11 Reply 14, posted (7 months 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 5718 times:
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 13): Don't know why it's NC in the first place but to answer the question that may pop up, why isn't it DL or DA now or something, DL really doesn't care about regs. They have some pretty strange ones out there. Kinda makes my OCD sad but I guess they're smart to not waste money on something dumb like that
Right. All they care about is the ship number which is what they change but not the registration. In fact, I don't really know our a/c but the registration but rather the ship number (738s - 37XX, 73G - 36XX, PMDL 757s - 6XX/67XX, etc.)
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FlyASAGuy2005 From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 6517 posts, RR: 11 Reply 17, posted (7 months 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 5429 times:
Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 15): Which NW fleet numbers changed? IIRC, the airbii (31xx, 32xx and 33xx with xx as the last two digits of the registration) did not.
They didn't mess with the NW a/c. I'm just talking in general. Most recent example being N624AG (ship 6818 to fall in line with the other 75Es).
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Deltal1011man From United States of America, joined Sep 2005, 8577 posts, RR: 8 Reply 18, posted (7 months 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 5111 times:
Quoting FlyASAGuy2005 (Reply 17): They didn't mess with the NW a/c. I'm just talking in general. Most recent example being N624AG (ship 6818 to fall in line with the other 75Es).
FWIW is they did change the 73W ship numbers due to them being the same as the 319s.
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e38 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 231 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (7 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4111 times:
Quoting ScottB (Reply 11), "Not sure I know the reason for N600TR, though."
ScottB, Northwest Airlines purchased N600TR from TransTiger Leasing Corporation.
Here's a brief history of DC9-51, N600TR, c/n 47783, Delta Air Lines ship 9886.
The aircraft was originally manufactured for Swissair in 1979 and registered HB-ISV, "Winkel." From 1988 - 1992, Swissair leased the aircraft to Aeropostal Alas de Venezuela as YV-40C. Then, it was sold to TransTiger Leasing Corporation--a subsidiary of Flying Tigers Airlines--and re-registered N600TR.
Northwest purchased N600TR from TransTiger Leasing Corporation in 1995.
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Quoting Cubsrule (Reply 12), "there were even a couple that were all numbers like N9333."
Those aircraft--with all numbers in the registration--were the DC-9s originally owned by Hughes Airwest.
e38 From United States of America, joined May 2008, 231 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (7 months 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 4020 times:
Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 2), "I forgot to look at the registration number of the DC-9-50 that operated Delta 2165 (DTW-ORD) yesterday (10/15/12). Thanks."
Delta Air Lines flight 2165, DTW-ORD on 15 October 2012 was operated by DC9-51 N784NC, ship 9875, c/n 48109.
DeltaRules From United States of America, joined Sep 2001, 3623 posts, RR: 11 Reply 21, posted (7 months 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 2414 times:
This sort of thing happens with other airlines as well. Before it was re-registered after the merger, US had a 757 that was N625VJ, which I flew in 2001. I'm assuming that N625AU (AU being common for their 757s) and N625US were both taken, so it seemed cool to see them choose the "VJ" suffix which was a staple of their DC-9 fleet.
xjramper From United States of America, joined Dec 2003, 2345 posts, RR: 52 Reply 23, posted (7 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2252 times:
Quoting DeltaMD90 (Reply 13): Don't know why it's NC in the first place but to answer the question that may pop up, why isn't it DL or DA now or something, DL really doesn't care about regs. They have some pretty strange ones out there. Kinda makes my OCD sad but I guess they're smart to not waste money on something dumb like that
I find that DL historically has never changed the registration for any aircraft unless it it already in use. Those delivered straight from the factory are never changed, hence why the original BE outfitted 764s are all N8XXMH. This being said, I bet that's why there are almost no changes to DL's fleet numbers, even the 73Ws as mentioned above were delivered from the factory with dairy queen instead of DA or DL.
1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 5756 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (7 months 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 2236 times:
Quoting xjramper (Reply 23): This being said, I bet that's why there are almost no changes to DL's fleet numbers, even the 73Ws as mentioned above were delivered from the factory with dairy queen instead of DA or DL.
I'm pretty sure the "DQ" suffix was chosen by DL (not by Boeing), however, DL switched to the more standard "DE" suffix for later deliveries (which is also used for some MD-88s, domestic 763s, and formerly the MD-11s and some 733s).
As for the 764ERs, N825MH was a registration chosen by Boeing for the prototype aircraft, and DL didn't want to spend to money to change it, so DL registered the rest of the fleet N826MH-N845MH for consistency.
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25 e38: Quoting TWA1985 (Reply 22), "Did these Republic birds have rear galleys, similar to Eastern's DC-9-50s?" TWA1985, whoa, this is stretching those brain
26 strfyr51: getting together a bunch of sequential registration numbers is not the LEAST bit easy UA and CO have both ordered 787's herels where the Sequential N
27 Viscount724: [/quote] For operational purposes aren't the nose/tail numbers much more important than the registrations? You can do whatever you want with your own
28 Cubsrule: Some carriers - like WN - make an effort to make them close to each other. That's not a peculiarly American thing; IIRC, all AF tail "numbers" are ju
29 NWADTWE16: Now this is just impressive! I remember all of our 752 numbers and we were just getting the 753's when i left NW but with all the different layout DL
30 Deltal1011man: note...the last few ships changed to NXXXDE. dairy queen was picked by Delta because the normal DA/DL/DN/DE were all taken. Delta still, IIRC, has 40
31 burnsie28: However, there were a couple of MD-90's with NW registrations due to something with the ship numbers, then they were re-registered.
32 captainstefan: The 55xx ship numbers are the 752s with the mini exit door behind the wing - the configuration originally intended to allow for a smoking section in
33 NWADTWE16: Row 33 has a sweet amount of leg room on these birds....
34 CONTACREW: Actually there are 15 5600 series 752s ending in "US" and 8 5600 series 752s ending in "NW" So there are more 5600 series ending in "US" then there a
35 Cubsrule: As far as US versus NW on the 752s, it has more to do with age and order sequence than with 5500 versus 5600. NW 752s basically came in three batches
36 CONTACREW: Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there a N550NW?
37 captainstefan: How many of those are active in the fleet vs. parked?
38 Cubsrule: That is correct. It is the first of the "new batch" of 5600 series aircraft. All 5600 series aircraft are active.
39 JONC777: And just to add . . .at ATL ive seen quite a few TW series, . . kinda cool actually. . . .havent seen any PA yet . . .wonder if there even out there .