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Transaero Applies For SFO Service

LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22240 posts, RR: 51
Posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2107 times:

Open Joint Stock Company Transaero Airlines today applied with the DOT to add San Francisco as a service point in addition to Los Angeles, Miami and New York gateways.

Transaero states it intends to offer seasonal twice weekly scheduled service between Moscow Domodedovo Airport and SFO begining March 31, 2013 per below schedule.

Mon/Thu
DME-SFO 1200-1320
SFO-DME 1520-1435

No equipment is listed, but the request makes comment that available Transaero fleet compromises of both 777 and 747 models.

OST-2010-0093

From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California

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as739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5834 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2075 times:

FINALLY!! Russia back at SFO.

I would guess 777 considering that UA has been doing some heavy maintenance on theirs. I believe some of the 777's are ex-UA.

"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"

phishphan70 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 256 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 2025 times:

Glad to get more variety at SFO. Any chance we see a 773 non-er? i would assume that's a tad bit too far

mah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 31155 posts, RR: 76
Reply 3, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 1996 times:

Per the Russia-side application, UN also intends to add additional service to Miami, but via Shannon to compliment the non-stops.

[Edited 2012-10-24 12:56:50]

AirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 852 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 1819 times:

Huge Russian community in SFO area. I am surprised SU only focused on LAX and not tried to be back in SEA and SFO!

redzeppelin From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 295 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (7 months 3 weeks 6 days ago) and read 1679 times:

Quoting AirGabon (Reply 4):
Huge Russian community in SFO area. I am surprised SU only focused on LAX and not tried to be back in SEA and SFO!

I recall hearing once that Sacramento also has a very large Russian community. Can anybody confirm that? This announcement is great news. Is there any reason why the DOT wouldn't approve the application?

as739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 5834 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 1520 times:

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 5):

Yes, Sacramento and Yolo County have a nice size Russian population.

"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"

modesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2636 posts, RR: 6
Reply 7, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1505 times:

Looking forward to more international carriers at SFO! I still remember when SU operated their 777s to SFO.

miaintl From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 827 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1505 times:

Who wants to fly on UN, they are a horrible airline with mediocre service, let SU expand its service to North America. Why is SU letting a charter carrier like UN outgrow it in North America?

LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22240 posts, RR: 51
Reply 9, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1440 times:

Considering the majority of travel between the countries originates in Russia, and is made up of Russian holiday makers, UN is quite suited for the task.

SU on the other hand is a network carrier, it needs certain schedule consistency and mix of business travelers to make a flight work.

From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California

jetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2053 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 21 hours ago) and read 1434 times:

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Can they really make money on twice weekly service? I never understand how airlines make routes work less than daily/ 6x a week. Not to mention does the crew sit in SFO the whole time waiting for the flight back?
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legacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 20 hours ago) and read 1355 times:

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Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 10):

The crew might get rotated down to LAX but I do remember when SU flew to SFO, they did have a long layover.

John@SFO

MarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 602 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1196 times:

Do the States and Russia have an Open Skies agreement?

spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1178 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 10):

I'd imagine that the crew would be busy readying the aircraft for the flight back during the turnaround. It is only a two hour layover so it probalby isn't that bad.

legacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 1866 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 1147 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 13):

Not possible. Crews have a maximum duty hours.

John@SFO

LAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 22240 posts, RR: 51
Reply 15, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 1086 times:

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 12):
Do the States and Russia have an Open Skies agreement?

No. Not even close.

From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California

Aeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 2958 posts, RR: 30
Reply 16, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 996 times:

Quoting AirGabon (Reply 4):
I am surprised SU only focused on LAX and not tried to be back in SEA and SFO!

SU will be back at SFO, time will show. Aircraft logistics made SFO hard to work back in the day with the two 777s that they had.

Aeroflot has a ton of planes on order, expansion will come naturally. UN is more of a leisure airline, so twice weekly makes sense for them.

styles9002 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 524 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (7 months 3 weeks 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 979 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 3):
Per the Russia-side application, UN also intends to add additional service to Miami, but via Shannon to compliment the non-stops.

If this happens, would UN use the US CBP pre-clearance facility? If so, would they permit pick-up/drop-off at SNN or would they not permit any local traffic?

It is what it is.

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