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Transaero Applies For SFO Service  
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25321 posts, RR: 49
Posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3254 times:

Open Joint Stock Company Transaero Airlines today applied with the DOT to add San Francisco as a service point in addition to Los Angeles, Miami and New York gateways.

Transaero states it intends to offer seasonal twice weekly scheduled service between Moscow Domodedovo Airport and SFO begining March 31, 2013 per below schedule.

Mon/Thu
DME-SFO 1200-1320
SFO-DME 1520-1435

No equipment is listed, but the request makes comment that available Transaero fleet compromises of both 777 and 747 models.


OST-2010-0093


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User currently onlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6138 posts, RR: 23
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3222 times:

FINALLY!! Russia back at SFO.

I would guess 777 considering that UA has been doing some heavy maintenance on theirs. I believe some of the 777's are ex-UA.



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User currently offlinephishphan70 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 265 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3172 times:

Glad to get more variety at SFO. Any chance we see a 773 non-er? i would assume that's a tad bit too far

User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32776 posts, RR: 72
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 3143 times:

Per the Russia-side application, UN also intends to add additional service to Miami, but via Shannon to compliment the non-stops.

[Edited 2012-10-24 12:56:50]


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User currently offlineAirGabon From Switzerland, joined Dec 2003, 884 posts, RR: 2
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 2966 times:

Huge Russian community in SFO area. I am surprised SU only focused on LAX and not tried to be back in SEA and SFO!

User currently offlineredzeppelin From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 585 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 2826 times:

Quoting AirGabon (Reply 4):
Huge Russian community in SFO area. I am surprised SU only focused on LAX and not tried to be back in SEA and SFO!

I recall hearing once that Sacramento also has a very large Russian community. Can anybody confirm that? This announcement is great news. Is there any reason why the DOT wouldn't approve the application?



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User currently onlineas739x From United States of America, joined Apr 2003, 6138 posts, RR: 23
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 2667 times:

Quoting redzeppelin (Reply 5):

Yes, Sacramento and Yolo County have a nice size Russian population.



"Some pilots avoid storm cells and some play connect the dots!"
User currently offlinemodesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2801 posts, RR: 5
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2652 times:

Looking forward to more international carriers at SFO! I still remember when SU operated their 777s to SFO.

User currently offlinemiaintl From United States of America, joined Jun 2010, 1049 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2652 times:

Who wants to fly on UN, they are a horrible airline with mediocre service, let SU expand its service to North America. Why is SU letting a charter carrier like UN outgrow it in North America?

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25321 posts, RR: 49
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2587 times:

Considering the majority of travel between the countries originates in Russia, and is made up of Russian holiday makers, UN is quite suited for the task.

SU on the other hand is a network carrier, it needs certain schedule consistency and mix of business travelers to make a flight work.



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User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2796 posts, RR: 4
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 2581 times:
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Can they really make money on twice weekly service? I never understand how airlines make routes work less than daily/ 6x a week. Not to mention does the crew sit in SFO the whole time waiting for the flight back?
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User currently offlinelegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 2502 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 10):

The crew might get rotated down to LAX but I do remember when SU flew to SFO, they did have a long layover.



John@SFO
User currently offlineMarcoPoloWorld From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 639 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2343 times:

Do the States and Russia have an Open Skies agreement?

User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2325 times:

Quoting jetblueguy22 (Reply 10):

I'd imagine that the crew would be busy readying the aircraft for the flight back during the turnaround. It is only a two hour layover so it probalby isn't that bad.


User currently offlinelegacyins From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 2077 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 2294 times:

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 13):

Not possible. Crews have a maximum duty hours.



John@SFO
User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25321 posts, RR: 49
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 2233 times:

Quoting MarcoPoloWorld (Reply 12):
Do the States and Russia have an Open Skies agreement?

No. Not even close.



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User currently offlineAeroflot777 From Russia, joined Mar 2004, 3007 posts, RR: 27
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2143 times:

Quoting AirGabon (Reply 4):
I am surprised SU only focused on LAX and not tried to be back in SEA and SFO!

SU will be back at SFO, time will show. Aircraft logistics made SFO hard to work back in the day with the two 777s that they had.

Aeroflot has a ton of planes on order, expansion will come naturally. UN is more of a leisure airline, so twice weekly makes sense for them.


User currently offlinestyles9002 From United States of America, joined May 2007, 527 posts, RR: 1
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 2126 times:

Quoting mah4546 (Reply 3):
Per the Russia-side application, UN also intends to add additional service to Miami, but via Shannon to compliment the non-stops.

If this happens, would UN use the US CBP pre-clearance facility? If so, would they permit pick-up/drop-off at SNN or would they not permit any local traffic?



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