yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5147 posts, RR: 2 Reply 5, posted (6 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10274 times:
Quoting holzmann (Reply 4): Any idea why UAL chose AMS as a SkyTeam hub over FRA to fly their new bird?
Here are some choices
1) less fuel to AMS vs FRA
2) lower landing fees / restrictions vs FRA, LHR etc
3) AF/KL wanted to get a good look at it, so Boeing paid for the fuel
4) AMS is more fun than FRA for a layover
5) Had cargo they could take
6) Borrowed DL's route dartboard and turned it into a Proving Run Dartboard
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Tdan From United States of America, joined Nov 2011, 305 posts, RR: 3 Reply 7, posted (6 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10263 times:
Quoting holzmann (Reply 4): Any idea why UAL chose AMS as a SkyTeam hub over FRA to fly their new bird?
Because that will be one of their first international deployments, on IAH-AMS. It's just temporary until more 787s arrive. The 787s are based in IAH and IAH-AMS is an easy deployment since it only requires one shell and replaces a similar capacity aircraft (764).
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CALPSAFltSkeds From United States of America, joined Dec 2006, 2199 posts, RR: 8 Reply 8, posted (6 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10216 times:
Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 3):
She's here! My first time up close with a 787. What a gorgeous bird!
CODC10 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2166 posts, RR: 8 Reply 11, posted (6 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 10016 times:
Quoting DALCE (Reply 6): I assume this has everything to do with AMS being one of the first regular destinations for the UA 787's
Ding ding ding.
*A hubs mean nothing for these proving runs. The 787s will see regular service to IAH, EWR, SFO, LAX, ORD, DEN, NRT, AMS (among others) in the coming months. Incidentally, most of those cities have received or will receive 787 proving flights.
PlaneAdmirer From United States of America, joined Jul 2009, 529 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (6 months 3 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 9972 times:
Quoting CrimsonNL (Reply 3): She's here! My first time up close with a 787. What a gorgeous bird!
Thaniks for the video. Very nice. The engines and the wings get to me.
traindoc From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 308 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 9505 times:
According to the October issue of Hemispheres, UA has to do 100 hours of non revenue proving runs with the 787. This is mandated by the FAA because they are the first U.S. operator. It may be that other U.S. carriers will not have to do as many proving runs once they get their A/C..
seahawks7757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 145 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 8013 times:
Roseflyer From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 8737 posts, RR: 52 Reply 18, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 7559 times:
Quoting VC10er (Reply 17): Please pardon my ignorance, but when does United get their next 787's? It has been said 4 to 5 by the end of this year...that's is not very far away!
They should be getting their next one in a few days, and 2 in November and 2 in December if what was originally reported by them is correct.
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CoachClass From United States of America, joined Jan 2010, 356 posts, RR: 0 Reply 19, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 6943 times:
Love the plane, but still no fan of the UA/CO livery.
traindoc From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 308 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6907 times:
To VC10er,
The proving runs are only for the first frame. They have to show the FAA that they have the competency to operate the 787 both in the air and on the ground.
(They could use their later frames if they chose to do so, as this is proving their ability with the aircraft type. I doubt that they will do that, as they want to get the 787 in revenue service ASAP.)
seahawks7757 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 145 posts, RR: 0 Reply 21, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 6907 times:
Quoting CoachClass (Reply 19): Love the plane, but still no fan of the UA/CO livery.
It just takes time, just like how we all hate Facebook when they update it, we eventually just get used to it like its normal.
I'm not getting used to it. I will keep flying them nonetheless. I hated battleship for all the time it flew so I will have to grin and bear this one. The fact that the Borg planet has been on the tail since 1991 and didn't really like it that much then, I probably won't for the next 10. I'd like to see United become America's best airline, and perhaps if that happens it will sport a fresh image. IMHO.
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FI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1054 posts, RR: 2 Reply 24, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 3729 times:
Great photos! I got to see one at DCA. Nice bird, eh?
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25 ua767400: No they will not need to fly it as much as 3904. 3904 is flying a lot so the FAA can certify the aircraft/certify United to handle the aircraft.
26 klwright69: I love the plane and love the livery. When is the first scheduled flight, and what is the first route that flight will be?
27 ua767400: United 1116 IAH-ORD on November 4th is the first flight
28 MadameConcorde: Nice video Martijn. Thanks for posting. This aircraft would look so much better with the U - Tulip - on the tail instead of that fugly globe. Also I
29 A340Spotter: Those of us onboard were eagerly watching the taxi-in as well. Parking "under" a jetway at other airports happens but with a brand new airplane, let'
30 AirframeAS: This is not a "for hire" flight, so no cargo. Again, this was a proving run.
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