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US Airways To Buy American Eagle Rumor?  
User currently offlineripcordd From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1195 posts, RR: 1
Posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 12467 times:

Ok I heard that USAIR maybe buying American Eagle just a rumor flooting around. I dont see what they will get out of it other than High Labor Costs and a gas guzzling fleet. Any thoughts to this

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User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31382 posts, RR: 85
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 12395 times:
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My question would be why?

What does US gain running AA's regional operations? It doesn't seem logical to me as a stepping stone to a merger with AA mainline.

And I certainly can't see US buying it to make it their own, as they already have US Airways Express. True, USAE is an independent operation run under contract, but...


User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3621 posts, RR: 6
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 2 days 2 hours ago) and read 12367 times:

No one is buying Eagle.

High costs, old planes/gas guzzling planes, senior workforce.

When the bright star of your fleet are 25 CRJ 700s that were recently delivered, you are in trouble


User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7978 posts, RR: 51
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 11541 times:

Never say never but... this will never happen. How do I know? Just ask the question: "Why!?"


Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently onlineflyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11464 times:

Almost as bad as the rumor that Richard Branson was going to buy a stake in AE


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User currently offlineAA94 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 605 posts, RR: 2
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11462 times:

Oh, please ...

 



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User currently offlineskycub From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 21 hours ago) and read 11175 times:

Quoting flyby519 (Reply 4):
Almost as bad as the rumor that Richard Branson was going to buy a stake in AE

One would hope that Sir Richard already has his hands full with the failure of an airline already using his brand in the United States.


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7671 posts, RR: 15
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11155 times:

Quoting ripcordd (Thread starter):
Ok I heard that USAIR maybe buying American Eagle just a rumor flooting around. I dont see what they will get out of it other than High Labor Costs and a gas guzzling fleet. Any thoughts to this

If it were true it would have to be some sort of backdoor to buying mainline AA. Probably not true.


User currently offlineouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 4615 posts, RR: 23
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 11029 times:

Quoting Stitch (Reply 1):
And I certainly can't see US buying it to make it their own, as they already have US Airways Express. True, USAE is an independent operation run under contract, but...

It probably would have been better to state that they already have PSA and Piedmont, not US Airways Express. USX is just a brand for regional operations that are done by the wholly owned carriers and additional contract carriers.

Regardless, I don't see any reason for this move. US has consolidated the wholly owned carriers from 4 to 2 (Allegheny and Mid Atlantic gone)...no reason to start adding back to it.


User currently offlineJBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2379 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 10972 times:

I seriously doubt that US would buy only Eagle as opposed to all of AA.

US already has two wholly-owned regionals - Piedmont and PSA - so it wouldn't make any sort of sense to acquire Eagle.

If anything, should the US-AA merger happen, I could see US either selling off or dissolving Piedmont and PSA in order to consolidate regional operations.



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User currently offlineusairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3472 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 10951 times:

Don't believe it for 1/10th of a second. Why would any major want a bunch of ERJs.

Quoting JBo (Reply 9):
I seriously doubt that US would buy only Eagle as opposed to all of AA.

US already has two wholly-owned regionals - Piedmont and PSA - so it wouldn't make any sort of sense to acquire Eagle.

Exactly and they already have old Dash-8s. I would think the last thing US wants is a boat load of aged ERJs


User currently offlineATCtower From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 547 posts, RR: 3
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 8761 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 7):
If it were true it would have to be some sort of backdoor to buying mainline AA. Probably not true.

That too was what I was thinking, though this is merely a 'rumor' and I dont put a whole lot of credit to it.

We all know AAL is working to 'merge' (acquire) with AWE and perhaps this could be a 'cut the fat' measure and aid in AWE execs being responsible for the final downfall of Eagle (though they have already gone further down the crapper than AWE has so that is merely speculation on my part).

AAL is certainly good at hemoraging cash but no one can dismantle an airline the way AWE mgmt has tried to do. If this rumor were true, this is the only plausible reason I could come up with for putting the Eagle name under AWE before the big merger takes place.

My $.02



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User currently offlinekparke777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 45 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 8008 times:
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"They have already gone further down the crapper than AWE has" - What data do you subscribe to that suggests AWE has come even close to going "down the crapper." Perhaps the best 3Q they have ever had? LOL

User currently offlinejfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8492 posts, RR: 6
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 6870 times:
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why would Usairways want Eagle without AA ? Like they need feed in Chicago or DFW.

User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4138 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6615 times:

Quoting ATCtower (Reply 11):
AAL is certainly good at hemoraging cash but no one can dismantle an airline the way AWE mgmt has tried to do.

LOL. This makes absolutely no sense, regardless of what anyone's personal opinion of US happens to be.


User currently onlineMainliner From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 421 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6491 times:

Quoting ATCtower (Reply 11):
no one can dismantle an airline the way AWE mgmt has tried to do.

Reno Air? Air Cal? TWA?  



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User currently offlineSkyTeamTriStar From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 403 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 6213 times:

This can't be true....ANOTHER poor decision coming from US Airways? Nope, I just can't believe my ears...LOL LOL

User currently offlineolddominion727 From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 395 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 5263 times:

I think the rumor is someone's pipe dream. As others have said, why would they want Eagle without AA?

User currently onlinebobnwa From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 6527 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 5006 times:

Quoting ripcordd (Thread starter):



Ok I heard that USAIR maybe buying American Eagle just a rumor flooting around.

Does that rumor have any source other than you posting it on Anet?


User currently offlinejetBlue From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 393 posts, RR: 5
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4917 times:

What if....

This is a way to get E190s delivered to be operated for AA, directly to an airline that already has the certification and training to operate the type, so that Eagle doesn't have to come up with all of that on its own, which would take 12-18 months?

Just a thought.


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User currently offlinenwcoflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 693 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 4834 times:

Quoting SkyTeamTriStar (Reply 16):

This can't be true....ANOTHER poor decision coming from US Airways? Nope, I just can't believe my ears...LOL LOL

Instead of just being a flame thrower, can you list some of the poor decisions made at US in the past 2 or 3 years that have have undermined the success of the organization? Since you said "ANOTHER" you are implying there are many...

Back to the topic... No way in hell US is going to buy AA Eagle. Eagle may be included as part of a larger deal with AA, but to think that they would want the feed for ORD/DFW/LAX/MIA/JFK with out the mainline is laughable.



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User currently onlineflyby519 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 1234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4365 times:

Quoting jetBlue (Reply 19):
What if....

This is a way to get E190s delivered to be operated for AA, directly to an airline that already has the certification and training to operate the type, so that Eagle doesn't have to come up with all of that on its own, which would take 12-18 months?

Just a thought.


jetBlue

Not sure I follow this logic. So US buys MQ and transfers E190s onto the MQ certificate, which are then flown for AA feed? There would need to be a new training program established for MQ E190s.



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User currently onlineRyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 5936 posts, RR: 5
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 4338 times:

Quoting jetBlue (Reply 19):
This is a way to get E190s delivered to be operated for AA, directly to an airline that already has the certification and training to operate the type, so that Eagle doesn't have to come up with all of that on its own, which would take 12-18 months?

Which E90s though? All of US' are fully accounted for, including those coming back from Republic which will replace DH3s.



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User currently offlineDeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 7978 posts, RR: 51
Reply 23, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 4141 times:

Quoting SkyTeamTriStar (Reply 16):
This can't be true....ANOTHER poor decision coming from US Airways? Nope, I just can't believe my ears...LOL LOL

implying this rumor is true and not completely BS...



Ironically I have never flown a Delta MD-90 :)
User currently offlinederwentwater747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 9 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 month 3 weeks 20 hours ago) and read 3952 times:

Thank the lord if this happens. Then needed markets like PVD can be served by the future American.

25 jlbmedia : Why would Usairways want Eagle WITH AA?
26 Mainliner : Not true. The leases on the DH3's have been extended and aren't going anywhere any time soon. Some of the DH8's will be timing out next year, so that
27 aaway : I think you're totally missing jetBlue, flyby519. Hehe....I like the he thinks. Yeah....jetBlue.
28 ATCtower : Lets start with hemoraging 2/3 of their pilots and 80% of the Captains in the last 10 years. Pilots rarely see a reason to fly for an airline that pa
29 apodino : I wonder if this could be related to a rumor that Eastshore Aviation (Parent company of Air Wisconsin...a USAirways Express Carrier) may be looking at
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