ripcordd From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 1022 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10704 times:
Ok I heard that USAIR maybe buying American Eagle just a rumor flooting around. I dont see what they will get out of it other than High Labor Costs and a gas guzzling fleet. Any thoughts to this
Stitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 26700 posts, RR: 83 Reply 1, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10632 times:
My question would be why?
What does US gain running AA's regional operations? It doesn't seem logical to me as a stepping stone to a merger with AA mainline.
And I certainly can't see US buying it to make it their own, as they already have US Airways Express. True, USAE is an independent operation run under contract, but...
jfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2656 posts, RR: 5 Reply 2, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 10604 times:
No one is buying Eagle.
High costs, old planes/gas guzzling planes, senior workforce.
When the bright star of your fleet are 25 CRJ 700s that were recently delivered, you are in trouble
DeltaMD90 From United States of America, joined Apr 2008, 5303 posts, RR: 47 Reply 3, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 9778 times:
Never say never but... this will never happen. How do I know? Just ask the question: "Why!?"
enilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 6134 posts, RR: 13 Reply 7, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9392 times:
Quoting ripcordd (Thread starter): Ok I heard that USAIR maybe buying American Eagle just a rumor flooting around. I dont see what they will get out of it other than High Labor Costs and a gas guzzling fleet. Any thoughts to this
If it were true it would have to be some sort of backdoor to buying mainline AA. Probably not true.
ouboy79 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3998 posts, RR: 23 Reply 8, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9266 times:
Quoting Stitch (Reply 1): And I certainly can't see US buying it to make it their own, as they already have US Airways Express. True, USAE is an independent operation run under contract, but...
It probably would have been better to state that they already have PSA and Piedmont, not US Airways Express. USX is just a brand for regional operations that are done by the wholly owned carriers and additional contract carriers.
Regardless, I don't see any reason for this move. US has consolidated the wholly owned carriers from 4 to 2 (Allegheny and Mid Atlantic gone)...no reason to start adding back to it.
Any opinion/comment posted is that of my own and not that of Southwest Airlines Co.
JBo From Sweden, joined Jan 2005, 2279 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9209 times:
I seriously doubt that US would buy only Eagle as opposed to all of AA.
US already has two wholly-owned regionals - Piedmont and PSA - so it wouldn't make any sort of sense to acquire Eagle.
If anything, should the US-AA merger happen, I could see US either selling off or dissolving Piedmont and PSA in order to consolidate regional operations.
I'd take the awe of understanding over the awe of ignorance any day.
usairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3097 posts, RR: 8 Reply 10, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 9188 times:
Don't believe it for 1/10th of a second. Why would any major want a bunch of ERJs.
Quoting JBo (Reply 9): I seriously doubt that US would buy only Eagle as opposed to all of AA.
US already has two wholly-owned regionals - Piedmont and PSA - so it wouldn't make any sort of sense to acquire Eagle.
Exactly and they already have old Dash-8s. I would think the last thing US wants is a boat load of aged ERJs
ATCtower From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 479 posts, RR: 3 Reply 11, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 6998 times:
Quoting enilria (Reply 7): If it were true it would have to be some sort of backdoor to buying mainline AA. Probably not true.
That too was what I was thinking, though this is merely a 'rumor' and I dont put a whole lot of credit to it.
We all know AAL is working to 'merge' (acquire) with AWE and perhaps this could be a 'cut the fat' measure and aid in AWE execs being responsible for the final downfall of Eagle (though they have already gone further down the crapper than AWE has so that is merely speculation on my part).
AAL is certainly good at hemoraging cash but no one can dismantle an airline the way AWE mgmt has tried to do. If this rumor were true, this is the only plausible reason I could come up with for putting the Eagle name under AWE before the big merger takes place.
My $.02
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kparke777 From United States of America, joined Apr 2007, 39 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 months 4 weeks 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 6245 times:
"They have already gone further down the crapper than AWE has" - What data do you subscribe to that suggests AWE has come even close to going "down the crapper." Perhaps the best 3Q they have ever had? LOL
jetBlue From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 388 posts, RR: 5 Reply 19, posted (6 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3154 times:
What if....
This is a way to get E190s delivered to be operated for AA, directly to an airline that already has the certification and training to operate the type, so that Eagle doesn't have to come up with all of that on its own, which would take 12-18 months?
Just a thought.
jetBlue
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nwcoflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2003, 641 posts, RR: 15 Reply 20, posted (6 months 4 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 3071 times:
Quoting SkyTeamTriStar (Reply 16):
This can't be true....ANOTHER poor decision coming from US Airways? Nope, I just can't believe my ears...LOL LOL
Instead of just being a flame thrower, can you list some of the poor decisions made at US in the past 2 or 3 years that have have undermined the success of the organization? Since you said "ANOTHER" you are implying there are many...
Back to the topic... No way in hell US is going to buy AA Eagle. Eagle may be included as part of a larger deal with AA, but to think that they would want the feed for ORD/DFW/LAX/MIA/JFK with out the mainline is laughable.
This is a way to get E190s delivered to be operated for AA, directly to an airline that already has the certification and training to operate the type, so that Eagle doesn't have to come up with all of that on its own, which would take 12-18 months?
Just a thought.
jetBlue
Not sure I follow this logic. So US buys MQ and transfers E190s onto the MQ certificate, which are then flown for AA feed? There would need to be a new training program established for MQ E190s.
RyanairGuru From Australia, joined Oct 2006, 2511 posts, RR: 2 Reply 22, posted (6 months 4 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 2575 times:
Quoting jetBlue (Reply 19): This is a way to get E190s delivered to be operated for AA, directly to an airline that already has the certification and training to operate the type, so that Eagle doesn't have to come up with all of that on its own, which would take 12-18 months?
Which E90s though? All of US' are fully accounted for, including those coming back from Republic which will replace DH3s.
derwentwater747 From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 9 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (6 months 4 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2189 times:
Thank the lord if this happens. Then needed markets like PVD can be served by the future American.
25 jlbmedia: Why would Usairways want Eagle WITH AA?
26 Mainliner: Not true. The leases on the DH3's have been extended and aren't going anywhere any time soon. Some of the DH8's will be timing out next year, so that
27 aaway: I think you're totally missing jetBlue, flyby519. Hehe....I like the he thinks. Yeah....jetBlue.
28 ATCtower: Lets start with hemoraging 2/3 of their pilots and 80% of the Captains in the last 10 years. Pilots rarely see a reason to fly for an airline that pa
29 apodino: I wonder if this could be related to a rumor that Eastshore Aviation (Parent company of Air Wisconsin...a USAirways Express Carrier) may be looking at
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