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40th Anniversary Of First A300 Flight  
User currently offlinekaitak From Ireland, joined Aug 1999, 12321 posts, RR: 35
Posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 6495 times:

On this day in 1972, the first A300B1 took off from Toulouse on its first flight - marking the first flight of an Airbus, of a European built widebody and most significantly, the first widebody twin. It's a date worth marking, I'm sure you'll agree!

Since then, over 3,500 widebody twins have entered commercial service and I hardly need comment on the hundreds of 787s and A350s - not to mention existing types, such as 777s and A330s - still on order. We have to acknowledge the role of the 767 in opening up long haul flights for twin engined types, but it all began with the A300.

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User currently offlineFlySSC From France, joined Aug 2003, 7379 posts, RR: 57
Reply 1, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6218 times:

" THIS IS A TYPICAL GOVERNMENT AIRPLANE ... THEY WILL BUILD A DOZEN OR SO AND THEN GO OUT OF BUSINESS".

Boeing vice president Jim Austin, 1974.


Happy Anniversary !!!



User currently offlineMadameConcorde From San Marino, joined Feb 2007, 10725 posts, RR: 38
Reply 2, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6173 times:

Quoting kaitak (Thread starter):
On this day in 1972, the first A300B1 took off from Toulouse on its first flight - marking the first flight of an Airbus

I remember... Airbus has certainly gone a long way.

There's plenty of room for both Boeing and Airbus considering how the aviation world has transformed itself and passenger transport has changed since that first A300 flight.

I liked that old Air France livery.
Everything was so different back then...

Providing no major global events occurring, Airbus have got many more bright years ahead of them.

  



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User currently offlineaerdingus From Ireland, joined Dec 2006, 2755 posts, RR: 15
Reply 3, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 6142 times:

I was lucky enough to travel on a ZB A300 DUB - HER in 2003. I didn´t know much about planes at the time, but it was certainly very comfortable on an intra European flight. I think it´s a great looking plane also.


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User currently offlineSEA From United States of America, joined Jul 2011, 232 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5699 times:

Congrats to Airbus! I always liked the look of the A300 and A310. I've never flown on any Airbus widebody though  

User currently offlinevanguard737 From United States of America, joined Aug 2001, 680 posts, RR: 4
Reply 5, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5677 times:

Congratulations to Airbus and the A300 development team, in particular.


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P.S.: Remember them? One of my favorite A300 liveries.  



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User currently onlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5086 posts, RR: 4
Reply 6, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5624 times:

It was so far ahead of its time. Unfortunately, neither engines nor wing technology were quite ready for an optimal widebody twin. We didn't really get one until 20 years later with the A330. But the A300 paved the way.


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User currently offlineLuxair From Netherlands, joined Jan 2001, 834 posts, RR: 2
Reply 7, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5549 times:
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Very nice tribute to Airbus & the A300, the grandfather of the big twins, sure it is worth mentioning this event!


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User currently offlinestrandedinbgm From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 349 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5374 times:

That's very interesting.


It's 737s, 747s and 380s. Not 737's, 747's and 380's. Learn to use the apostrophe for crying out loud.
User currently offlineltbewr From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 12878 posts, RR: 12
Reply 9, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 5373 times:

The A300 was a major milestone in aircraft design, as other posters have well noted and it is good the date of this model's first flight is posted here.
Yes, it does have it's flaws, some were MX hogs, there are handling quirks, but for airlines like EA and AA, they were important parts of their fleets for their efficency, room for pax and freight. It created a new class of aircraft - the mid-sized 2 engined widebody. It also led to the consolidation of the European aircraft industry, a number of successful aircraft and new standards in aircraft like the A380. A significant number still fly in pax and freight ops, even some older ones, so it appears to be a success by any standards.


User currently offlineB777LRF From Luxembourg, joined Nov 2008, 1208 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 5090 times:

Flew on a -600 on Thursday, taking a B4-200 out for a spin tomorrow. There's still life in the old girl, and long may she continue to grace the skies.

PS

Quoting seabosdca (Reply 6):
We didn't really get one until 20 years later with the A330. But the A300 paved the way.

That's rather a contentious remark. First of all because the wing on the A300 does exactly what it says on the tin, and that's short-medium haul flights. And in the 70s, "medium" was closer to 5 hours than the 7 or 8 we think of today. Secondly, if you're referring to a long-range twin, then one could argue with an equal degree of certainty the 767 did that job just fine, again taking into account the job it was built to do.



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User currently offlineFI642 From Monaco, joined Mar 2005, 1079 posts, RR: 2
Reply 11, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4976 times:

When Eastern Airlines ordered them - the company was called "UnAmerican" for doing so. Their President pointed out "the engines are the expensive part, and they're made here in America." My how things have changed!

Bravo Airbus!



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User currently offlineairsmiles From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2009, 88 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 4962 times:

I clearly remember the early proving flights to LHR and the first Air France batch (F-BVGA to F-BVGF) that became regulars flying between Paris and London. At the time Carvavelles, Tridents, B707's and DC8's were still very common at LHR, so an A300 was quite something different.

User currently offlinemaxpower1954 From United States of America, joined Sep 2008, 1034 posts, RR: 7
Reply 13, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4374 times:

Quoting FI642 (Reply 11):
When Eastern Airlines ordered them - the company was called "UnAmerican" for doing so. Their President pointed out "the engines are the expensive part, and they're made here in America." My how things have changed!

Really? It wasn't exactly unprecedented. Capital bought 60 Viscounts, United ordered Caravelles, American, Braniff and Mohawk BAC-1-11s. As I recall, Airbus leased the A300 to Eastern initially for practically nothing to gain a foothold in the North American market.


User currently offlinesmokinL1011 From United States of America, joined Jun 2006, 122 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4326 times:

Today I was walking along the beachfront promenade in Nice, pausing to look each time a plane came in for a landing... the direction this late morning/early afternoon was to the west, so along the beach, and at one point I heard engines that weren't quite like the others. It was an A300 or A310 cargo plane. And I thought to myself, wow, nearly 40 years!

Didn't know today was the anniversary of the first flight...


User currently onlineseabosdca From United States of America, joined Sep 2007, 5086 posts, RR: 4
Reply 15, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4319 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 10):
First of all because the wing on the A300 does exactly what it says on the tin, and that's short-medium haul flights.

Airbus knew perfectly well at the time that the future of the widebody twin was long-haul, or at least medium-haul (which the A300 really couldn't do until the -600R came along). They just couldn't get there yet. Half of the reason was a very low weight limit imposed by the available engines, and the other half (it turned out) was insufficiently good aerodynamics. So they made lemonade of lemons by building a short-haul wing that was excellent for the time, and developing the rest of the aircraft with long-haul possibilities in mind. That paid off when they were able to build the A330 and A340 at lower cost thanks to the work already accomplished with the A300.

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 10):
Secondly, if you're referring to a long-range twin, then one could argue with an equal degree of certainty the 767 did that job just fine,

Again, Boeing had to make lemonade out of lemons. They built the long-haul twin by sacrificing what they knew was the optimal cross-section for a widebody in order to lower drag and weight to a level where the existing engines would work. Both the A300 and the 767 were compromises that pointed the way toward the optimized medium-size widebody twin -- an aircraft resembling the A330 and 787.

None of this is to take away from the marvelous accomplishment the A300 represents. It truly pointed to the future of commercial aviation, a decade before anyone else got there.

[Edited 2012-10-27 14:34:41]


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User currently onlineXT6Wagon From United States of America, joined Feb 2007, 3320 posts, RR: 4
Reply 16, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4306 times:

Quoting B777LRF (Reply 10):
First of all because the wing on the A300 does exactly what it says on the tin, and that's short-medium haul flights.

The earliest A300 short haul was a stretch. The MTOW growth made short haul atleast comfortable, but the A300 didn't really hit its stride till the advances made on the A310 were rolled back into the A300 to produce the A300-600. That is the first Airbus to me that made any sense to buy at normal market prices. It finaly had payload and range that was meaningful, with solid operating economics.


User currently offlineAmerican 767 From United States of America, joined May 1999, 3648 posts, RR: 12
Reply 17, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4268 times:

Airbus has been in business for 40 years now!
I remember my first flight on an A300, it was with Air France as far as I can remember, back in 1980 when the plane was new. The Air France bar code livery was also new at that time. I was excited to fly on it. I flew on it from CDG to NCE.

Quoting SEA (Reply 4):
Congrats to Airbus! I always liked the look of the A300 and A310. I've never flown on any Airbus widebody though

The A300 and A310 are the two widebody Airbus I have ever flown on. I have never flown on the A330, A340 and A380.

Quoting FI642 (Reply 11):
When Eastern Airlines ordered them - the company was called "UnAmerican" for doing so.

Eastern may have been the first US airline to order an Airbus plane, but it wasn't the first US airline to order a Europe built plane. United flew the Caravelle. American, Braniff and US Air flew the BAC-111.

Ben Soriano



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User currently offlineAesma From France, joined Nov 2009, 6100 posts, RR: 9
Reply 18, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 19 hours ago) and read 4216 times:

Happy anniversary !

I flew for the first time of my life on A300s during a school trip in the 90's PAR-FRA-MUC and back. And more recently I flew the A300-600 ORY-TUN. Really love the widebodies on short trips, something quite rare overall.



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User currently offlinebreiz From France, joined Mar 2005, 1892 posts, RR: 2
Reply 19, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 3915 times:

An anniversary which does not make us younger. Already 40 years!
I followed the Airbus development from the outset. To me, it was such a daring hope that 4 nations would manage to collaborate and somehow help the EU to come true.
Both at Airbus and in the EU, we are not there yet, but what a ride!


User currently offlineSQ22 From Germany, joined Feb 2012, 97 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 3814 times:

Some years ago they were quite common on routes with high demand within Germany. I flew on LH's A306 quite often from HAM to FRA. I can remember sometimes they were using them as a replacement for flights to the US East Coast too.

User currently offlineEASTERN747 From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 473 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 3266 times:

The A300 was a great aircraft. It was a pleasure to fly in, and IT was a good work horse. Airbus gave us a great deal, as Boeing stuck their nose up on us..................Boeing finally gave us a deal on the 757, which we proudly flew for years

User currently offlineogshelly From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 2832 times:

I flew on an A300 back in September 1987 in Continental Airlines from beautiful Mexico City (evidently my home town) to Houston. I was in window seat in the back on the right side. I remember how impressive the wing lifted during the U turn in the final approach to IAH. Nice aircraft, flew in some other flights like AA: JFK-London, Lima-Miami and Miami-Bogota. First class was awesome in Viasa, the Venezuelan airline from Caracas to Santiago in the cockpit one night under full moon! Great memories. Happy birthday Airbus!

User currently offlineHOONS90 From Canada, joined Aug 2001, 2944 posts, RR: 53
Reply 23, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2804 times:
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Congratulations to Airbus!

On a sad note, Korean Air is retiring its last A300 in a couple of months, after nearly 38 years. Korean Air was the very first airline outside of Europe to buy Airbus planes.



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User currently offlinejustinlee From China, joined Aug 2012, 331 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 5 months 3 weeks 12 hours ago) and read 2786 times:

My first wide body experience is an MU AB6 in 1997. MU is still using some AB6 and these make a lot of money for them!

25 Post contains images ABQopsHP : Those that were doing the name calling, likely had no idea what a Caravelle or BAC-111 was. Probably thought it was another DC9, if they even bothere
26 RayChuang : I think one of the more interesting "what ifs" was what would have happened if the British government didn't officially pull out of the Airbus consort
27 FlyCaledonian : And it's interesting that whilst P&W joined GE in providing engines for the A300 (and the A310), RR never got its engines on an Airbus until the
28 Mortyman : Congrats to Airbus and the A300. Certianly an anniversary to point out. I have flown the A300 with American Airlines ,Thai Airways and Scanair No bad
29 longhauler : Congratulations to Airbus Industrie! Much like the 10,000th B737, there is something to be said for a well designed airplane that is well built. I hol
30 Post contains images TK1244 : I really miss those days when the Turkish charter companies used A300s for their flights
31 skyymarc : I was reading the 1977 Allegheny Airlines annual report posted on another website that stated their intention to purchase 2 A300B aircraft for sought
32 Post contains links and images CPH-R : View Large View MediumPhoto © Udo K. Haafke The very type and company that lit the spark that became my passion for all things aviation. I can still
33 Post contains links and images OA260 : Happy Anniversary to one of the best aircraft ever built. So many years I flew on Olympic Airways A300-B4's . Lovely memories. . Always wanted this cl
34 CF-CPI : Eastern did specify the A300B4 model, which had an additional leading edge slat fitted at the wing root, plus the uprated GE CF6 engines identical to
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