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Airbus And Boeing Orders 2012 - Part 2  
User currently onlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3398 posts, RR: 3
Posted (1 year 11 months 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 25523 times:

Seems like the last one got archived after a quiet period order wise

Airbus And Boeing Orders 2012 Part 1 (by someone83 Jan 24 2012 in Civil Aviation)

Assume the newest TK and SQ orders should show up in Boeing and Airbus' order book pretty soon, but who else are we waiting on the conformation from?

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User currently onlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3398 posts, RR: 3
Reply 1, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 25072 times:

Etihad orders to firmed A330-200 from Airbus, in addition to converting seven A320 to A321.


http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...-two-more-a330-passenger-aircraft/


User currently offlinemffoda From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 24878 times:

Rostech is exercising purchase rights for 35 737 Max's that were part of a 2010 agreement.

"Boeing Gets $3 Billion Deal With Rostech Unit for Max Model 737s"

http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...stech-unit-for-max-model-737s.html



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User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4161 posts, RR: 36
Reply 3, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 24802 times:

Appears to be the "orders day":

[quote]Avation Plc (LSE: AVAP) the aircraft procurement and leasing company is pleased to announce that following
a confirmation from Virgin Australia of its desire for an additional three ATR 72-600 aircraft to be made
available to it throughout the course of 2014, the Company will exercise aircraft purchase options to
acquire three new additional ATR 72-600 aircraft for this purpose.[/unquote]

http://www.marketwire.com/press-rele...2-600-options-lse-avap-1719152.htm



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User currently offlinephxa340 From United States of America, joined Mar 2012, 891 posts, RR: 1
Reply 4, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 24732 times:

Quoting someone83 (Thread starter):
SQ orders should show up in Boeing

Confused , were the 787s for Scoot new 787 orders or is SQ simply transferring existing SQ orders to Scoot ? Thanks.


User currently offlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31053 posts, RR: 87
Reply 5, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 24708 times:
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Quoting phxa340 (Reply 4):
Confused , were the 787s for Scoot new 787 orders or is SQ simply transferring existing SQ orders to Scoot ? Thanks.

SQ transferred the orders to Scoot. So we should just see a customer change (delete SQ, add TZ).


User currently offlinef4f3a From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2004, 246 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 24628 times:

Does anyone know when the U2 decision on fleet
Replacement is going to happen? Could be a big end
Of year order for whoever wins


User currently offlinedoulasc From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 542 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 24535 times:

whats the latest news on JetBlue's order for some A320 NEO and about 30 A321s?

User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3393 posts, RR: 9
Reply 8, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 24450 times:

Quoting f4f3a (Reply 6):
Does anyone know when the U2 decision on fleet
Replacement is going to happen? Could be a big end
Of year order for whoever wins
Quoting doulasc (Reply 7):
whats the latest news on JetBlue's order for some A320 NEO and about 30 A321s?

Could there be a end of year Airbus order bonanza?


User currently offlinewingman From Seychelles, joined May 1999, 2276 posts, RR: 5
Reply 9, posted (1 year 11 months 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 24321 times:

There's one every year!

User currently onlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3398 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 11 months 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 23995 times:

Quoting phxa340 (Reply 4):

Confused , were the 787s for Scoot new 787 orders or is SQ simply transferring existing SQ orders to Scoot ? Thanks.

Seems like a wasn't accurate enough, for SQ and a only wait for them to show up in Airbus' order books (the A380 and A350), while the recent orders from TK should soon be shown in both's


User currently offlinePanAm_DC10 From Australia, joined Aug 2000, 4164 posts, RR: 90
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 23568 times:
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ALAFCO have firmed their commitment for 20 737MAX-8's

Boeing, ALAFCO Firms up Order for 20 Boeing 737 MAXs

KUWAIT, Nov. 4, 2012 /PRNewswire/ -- Boeing (NYSE: BA) and Kuwait airplane leasing company ALAFCO finalized an order for 20 Boeing 737 MAX 8s valued at $2.0 billion at current list price. The order was first announced as a commitment at the Farnborough Airshow in July.

Source Boeing and ALAFCO via www.boeing.com

Boeing now state they have a total of 878 737 MAX orders

Regards

Paul



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User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1381 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 4 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 23310 times:

Aeromexico has firmed their order for 60 MAX-8 / 9:

"Mexico City, November 5, 2012. – Grupo Aeromexico [...]
has announced that the Company has finalized a purchase agreement with
Boeing Aircraft to purchase up to 90 Boeing 737 MAX narrow body aircraft. [...]
Of the 90 aircraft, 60 are firm deliveries, with the ability to purchase an
additional 30 aircraft, subject to reconfirmation by Grupo Aeromexico."

http://www.aeromexico.com/us/downloa...anuncio_de_compra_de_flota_vfi.pdf


User currently onlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3398 posts, RR: 3
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 23308 times:

Tranaa har placed a firm order for 6 A321neo
http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...ays-orders-six-additional-a321neo/


User currently onlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3398 posts, RR: 3
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 4 days 13 hours ago) and read 23317 times:

Boeing has updated their website and 60 737s for AeroMexico and 20 for ALAFCO has been firmed

User currently onlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3398 posts, RR: 3
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 23316 times:

This should bring Boeing's firm order so fra in 2012 to:

Boeing

Firm Orders
Air Astana - 4 767-300ER & 3 787-8
Air Canada - 3 777-300ER
Air China - 5 747-8i
Air Lease Corp. - 75 737-MAX
Air New Zealand - 2 787-9
* ALAFCO - 20 737-MAX
* Alaska Airlines - 16 737-900ER, 20 737-8MAX &17 737-9MAX
All Nippon Airways - 11 787-9
American Airlines - 3 777-300ER
Avolon - 10 737-800 & 15 737-MAX
Boeing Business Jets - 1 737-700BBJ
China Eastern - 45 737-800
El Al Israel Airlines - 2 737-900ER
Ethiopian Airlines - 1 777-200LR
FedEx - 15 767-300F
GE Capital - 10 737-800 & 75 737-MAX
*GOL - 60 737-8MAX
Japan Airlines - 10 787-9
Jet Airways - 17 737-800
Korean Air Lines - 2 777-300ER
Lion Air - 29 737-900ER, 201 737-MAX & 5 787-8
Norwegian Air Shuttle - 22 737-800, 100 737-MAX
Pakistan Int'l Airlines - 5 777-300ER
TAAG Angola Airlines - 3 777-300ER
Transaero Airlines - 4 787-8
Turkmenistan Airlines - 1 737-800
United Airlines - 50 737-900ER & 100 737-MAX
Virgin Australia - 1 737-800 & 23 737-MAX
U.S. Navy - 11 737-800A
Unidentified - 4 737-800 & 2 777-300ER
Unidentified - 1 737-800, 1 777-300ER & 3 787-8
*Unidentified - 22 737-MAX

Don't have any updates/overview of the cancellations/conversions/identifies groups, but maybe Hamlet69 has?


User currently offlinemffoda From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 23313 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 15):
This should bring Boeing's firm order so fra in 2012 to:

You forgot Aeromexico in your list = 60 - 737 MAX



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User currently onlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3398 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 23315 times:

Quoting mffoda (Reply 16):

You forgot Aeromexico in your list = 60 - 737 MAX

harder than woodpecker lips...


The list is up to 31/10  


User currently onlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3398 posts, RR: 3
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 23314 times:

Accordng to Airbus' spreadsheet, Afriqiyah has ordered four A350-900, and converted its six A350-800 on order to -900

Confirmed order October, most of them already known:
Turkish: 15 A330-300
Etihad: 2 A330-200
Afriqiyah: 4 A350-900
Airbus Private Jet: 2 A319ACJ


User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3393 posts, RR: 9
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 15 hours ago) and read 23318 times:

Quoting someone83 (Reply 18):
Accordng to Airbus' spreadsheet, Afriqiyah has ordered four A350-900, and converted its six A350-800 on order to -900

Confirmed order October, most of them already known:
Turkish: 15 A330-300
Etihad: 2 A330-200
Afriqiyah: 4 A350-900
Airbus Private Jet: 2 A319ACJ

Good month for Airbus wide bodies and the SQ A350 and A380s to come.

Anyone think that the AF/KLM A350 order will get firmed this year?


User currently offlinefcogafa From United Kingdom, joined May 2008, 812 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 23311 times:

Flightglobal reports that GFA have cancelled 20 A330s and replaced them with 16 NEOs and 8 standard A320s.

User currently offlinemffoda From United States of America, joined Apr 2010, 1075 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 7 hours ago) and read 23311 times:

Mexican airline Interjet orders 40 A320neo. Doesn't give delivery info.

http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...erjet-airbus-idUSBRE8AB18420121112



harder than woodpecker lips...
User currently onlinesomeone83 From Norway, joined Sep 2006, 3398 posts, RR: 3
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 23308 times:

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 20):
Flightglobal reports that GFA have cancelled 20 A330s

Wasn't ten of these among the one cancelled in September?

See part one of this thread


User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12569 posts, RR: 46
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 23317 times:
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Quoting someone83 (Reply 22):
Wasn't ten of these among the one cancelled in September?

Possibly - that cancellation of 10 was listed as "undisclosed" showing -10 A330-300s and GF still listed as 20 on order. That's still the case in October's O&D spreadsheet. I'll guess we'll have to wait a month to see what happens unless Airbus make an announcement before then.



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User currently offlineFlying-Tiger From Germany, joined Aug 1999, 4161 posts, RR: 36
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 23314 times:

Quoting fcogafa (Reply 20):
Flightglobal reports that GFA have cancelled 20 A330s and replaced them with 16 NEOs and 8 standard A320s.

This would actually leave GF off the hook pretty cheap IMO. 20 WBs traded against 24 NBs? Something behind the scenes we don´t know of yet? (=> "undisclosed optioned A350 XWBs"?)



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25 Post contains images Hamlet69 : Sorry bout the delay, folks. Those 60-hr+ weeks are really starting to catch up with me. However, I do have the full update for October. And also, a h
26 flood : That was my understanding, as in a previous monthly update they stated "also included in the month's order book was one A321neo for Arkia Israel". It
27 Post contains links flood : SilkAir has firmed their 737 order: "finalized an order for 54 Next-Generation 737s and 737 MAX 8s worth $4.9 billion at list prices. With this agreem
28 Stitch : With this order, the 737 family has surpassed 1000 net orders for the year - the first time such an achievement has been reached.
29 Karan69 : If I am not mistaken the GF air order has been reduced on Airbus books to reflect 6 330s and the 24 320 CEO and NEO , Can anyone confirm the 6 330 ord
30 Stitch : Airbus doesn't break down their orders by model per year, but I believe the A320 family (oeo and neo) broke the 1000-order mark in 2011. They might a
31 Post contains links mffoda : Here's the weekly Boeing update.. "Changes since last update: 62 new orders (SilkAir 54 737s, Business Jet / VIP Customer(s) one 787, and Unidentified
32 Hamlet69 : Not as of their October 31 update. I'm looking at it right now, and there is no change in GF's current order. However, as I postulated before in 'Par
33 Post contains links Hamlet69 : Today, Boeing revealed that Avianca is the customer behind the UFO order for x3 787-8's from September 28 of this year. http://boeing.mediaroom.com/in
34 Post contains links mffoda : TK orders 15 + 5 options for the 777-300ER. http://www.arabianaerospace.aero/tur...red-boeing-777-300er-aircraft.html
35 Post contains images Stitch : They did so last month.
36 Post contains links Someone83 : Maybe we see some more Airbus orders from China now that the carbon-tax is being removed. China Eastern is first out with an order for 60 A320s (ceo)
37 zeke : Anyone able to confirm that Air China 747-8 order has changed ?
38 Stitch : They continue to have five 747-8 Intercontinentals on order. The three 747-8 freighters originally assigned to them in the firing order are now assig
39 zeke : Anyone hear of updates to the Cathay 77F order, and Qatar A350 order ?
40 Post contains links Someone83 : Guess we have to wait untill Airbus release their monthly update. But according to a press release from Airbus today they have converted 20 -800s to
41 Post contains links india1 : Anyone hear of updates to the Cathay 77F order, and Qatar A350 order ? Here you go, Zeke... http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/.../uk-airbus-a-idUSLN
42 Stitch : Latest speculation in the 747-8 production thread is that CX wants to order additional 777-300ERs instead of taking delivery of their 777 freighters
43 Post contains links india1 : http://www.reuters.com/article/2012/...rbus-bregier-idUSBRE8B21AE20121203 Almost 200 a/c sold in Nov, ytd @ 646 units gross, says Airbus. This weeks N
44 Chiad : Wow .. thanks for the info. In December Airbus normally firms up plenty. Would be cool if we can get some more Chinese orders. AirAsia could also squ
45 Stitch : Leahey is on his way to China as we speak, so now that the EU has backed off of ETS for at least a year I expect those A330 orders will be firmed.
46 someone83 : Quite a lot of "UFO-activity" for Boeing this week. 2 new 747 orders and 5 cancellation. Most likely 5 747-8i for Emirates Sky Cargo/DAE. In addition
47 Stitch : Appears to be Air Astana per another site. The 15 UFO cancellations in November were by United Airlines. The 5-frame 787 UFO on 7 November are 4 787-
48 Cerecl : Do we know if these are the -F or the -i variant? Thank you.
49 Post contains images Chiad : This leaves Boeing with 21 wide-body net orders, of which 18 is for the B767. Wide-body deliveries was record 161 frames.
50 scbriml : They're Fs.
51 Post contains images Chiad : Airbus' spreadsheet has been updated. Orders November 183 A320's 1 A332 2 A345 January - November total 585 net orders (incl. 66 wide-bodies)
52 Post contains links Chiad : Deliveries total 516 (incl. 115 wide-bodies) http://www.airbus.com/fileadmin/back...iveries_table/OD_2012_November.xls
53 Focker : Do we know who is behind the 183 A320's?
54 Post contains images Stitch : I'm sure the answer is "whom", as it must be multiple customers.
55 Post contains images Focker : That is what I meant to ask, but hey... English is not my mother tongue!
56 KarelXWB : The spreadsheet says 100 A320's for an undisclosed customer. I'm guessing at AirAsia. Other orders came from Interjet, Tibet Airlines, TransAsia Airw
57 PM : Actually, not a new order but an assumption by Iraqi Airways of the last remaining A330-200 ordered in February 2011 by Air Asia X.
58 wimdemeester : I am not sure why the long expected Air Asia commitment for an additional 100 a/c would be booked as "undisclosed"? What about the possibility that Tu
59 Post contains links sirtoby : Looks like this is an order for 64 neo and 36 ceo as pointed out here: http://aeroturbopower.blogspot.de/2012/12/mystery-a320-customer.html
60 KarelXWB : That's another possibility indeed, but if I have to guess I'm going for AirAsia.
61 Focker : One of the comments in the blog suggests the possibility that AirAsia and Airbus will announce this order when the first "Sharkletted" 320 is handed
62 col : As long as we don't have to wait until Caterham win a Grand Prix or QPR get a win this season, the sharklet delivery would be my best guess. I am a l
63 Post contains links someone83 : According to Beoing, this order is now firmed http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2521
64 Post contains links KarelXWB : And AirAsia it is. http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr...ail/airasia-orders-100-more-a320s/
65 someone83 : Boeing also firmed 4 737s to GECAS, while 3 737s was cancelled, according to their weekly statements
66 Post contains links zeke : "Pegasus selects up to 100 A320neo Family Aircraft" http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr...up-to-100-a320neo-family-aircraft/ " 18 December 2012 Press
67 Post contains links Someone83 : FedEx increases their 767-300F order by four http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2537
68 Someone83 : Boeing update this week: FedEx: 4 767-300F Republic of Iraq: 1 777 (Guess this was the -200LR delivered recently?) UFO: 15 737 UFO: 30 777 With the la
69 Post contains images Stitch : The 777 would be the 777-200LR Air Austral ordered but never took delivery of. That frame has been re-sold to the Republic of Iraq (and recorded this
70 KarelXWB : Another 747 cancellation? Who?
71 Stitch : I'd guess one of the BBJs.
72 KarelXWB : You are proberly right. The production list up to L/N 1488 does not show a 9th BBJ.
73 Post contains links Stitch : It was Lufthansa. They have cancelled delivery of Line Number 1435 so that Boeing can keep it as a dedicated test aircraft for a set of airframe, sys
74 KarelXWB : Thanks for the update.
75 Post contains links Stitch : China Airlines have firmed their six frame 777-300ER order today - http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2545
76 PanAm_DC10 : Will the 4 that GECAS are leasing be new orders too?
77 7BOEING7 : GECAS still has 16 777-300 ER's that haven't been delivered so they will probably come from those orders.
78 Post contains links Stitch : Aeromexico adds six 787-9s, bringing their total Dreamliner family commitment (leased and purchased) to 19 - 9 787-8s and 10 787-9s. http://boeing.med
79 qf340500 : Very quiet on the airbus front this year, normally they have a year end rush... ... ...
80 Post contains images KPDX : Maybe they're saving them for 31 of December? That would be very Airbus.
81 Post contains images Stitch : Airbus doesn't announce their year-end totals until late January of the following year. And Boeing has in the past recorded major orders on 31 Decemb
82 scbriml : They do. As Leahy once explained, they often set end of year (or major air shows) as the target dates by which LOIs or MOUs have to be firmed up. I e
83 Post contains links Stitch : Looks like Boeing has secured another two C-40 Clipper sales for the USN and is seeking authority from the DoD and Congress to order a block of 72 P-8
84 Post contains links Someone83 : 50 737-8MAX and 10 737-9MAX has been firmed by ACG and booked as a 2012 order http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2548
85 Post contains links india1 : More 350s for CIT. Would this also be for the 2012 order book? http://www.airbus.com/newsevents/new...350-xwb-aircraft-to-its-portfolio/
86 Post contains links mffoda : Boeing's end of year O&D results are out. http://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=2552 - 1,203 net commercial orders is second-largest
87 Someone83 : And the firm changes in Boeing's orderbook last week and up to 31/12 was: ACG: 50 737-8MAX and 10 737-9MAX China Airlines: 6 777-300ER AeroMexico: 6 7
88 mffoda : And of the 40 UFO 737's, 35 appear to be MAX orders. The total went from 1029 to 1064.
89 Aircellist : 914 737 MAX... That's two shy of half the 727 production run... In one year.
90 Post contains images Chiad : Remarkable .. but still much less than "just shy" of the NEO's sales performance in 2011 with 1226 unites (not incl. AA's 130 frames) the fastest sel
91 Stitch : 20 of the 737s were from Aviation Capital Group. I do not know why they did not convert them from NGs to MAX, but the contract might not have allowed
92 Post contains images Hamlet69 : Hello all and Happy 2013!!! I apologize for not getting updates out, but unfortunately the Holidays means a lot of real-life work for me. But without
93 Someone83 : Thank you Hamlet69, looking forward to the Airbus' update in a few weeks
94 Aircellist : Even though the MAX is not selling quite as fast as the NEO... Will you argue that both numbers are not just astounding?
95 Chiad : Did I give you the impression of otherwise? The second fastest selling airliner in history speaks for itself, especially since there's still 4 years
96 Post contains links Someone83 : Avolon has firmed up an additional 20 A320neo, which will be booked as a 2012 order http://www.airbus.com/no_cache/press...ment-by-signing-firm-order-
97 Post contains links india1 : @ Someone83 - I'm not so sure, because this release mentions the MEA order was signed on 9th Jan in the first para (unless the reporter has mixed the
98 Post contains images Someone83 : I know, but Airbus har been "creative" before
99 7BOEING7 : If it takes you 17 days to figure how many airplanes you sold--well enough said.
100 Post contains links mffoda : I tried to start a 2013 thread, but had trouble posting it... Maybe someone else could give it a go? Boeing showing 2 2013 UFO 737's in its weekly upd
101 moo : Same old, same old - Airbus can release their sales figures when they like, they don't owe you the figures on January 1st. They could wait until Marc
102 Post contains links Stitch : As requested - Airbus And Boeing Orders 2013 (by Stitch Jan 10 2013 in Civil Aviation)
103 Post contains images scbriml : Not this tired old crap. I really thought we'd all moved on from those childish days, but it seems not.
104 Post contains links KarelXWB : From twitter: Singapore Airlines firms five A380s and 20 A350-900s. http://twitter.com/Airbus/status/289670837357907969[Edited 2013-01-11 01:59:08]
105 Post contains links Pihero : Irish lessor Avolon confirms / signs for 20 NEOs. Article on ATW : Avolon NEO order
106 Post contains links KarelXWB : @Pihero Press release here: http://www.airbus.com/presscentre/pr...ment-by-signing-firm-order-for-20/
107 india1 : If you read the Press Release, the 350 total is given as 582 frames incl SQ's 20. If you look back at their Nov spreadsheet, the total was 562 and the
108 KarelXWB : It's possible, or they 'forgot' to add up the 10 CIT frames. We will find out on January 17th.
109 moo : More likely the CIT and SIA press releases were written at the same time, independent of the other.
110 Post contains images Leo467 : These recent Airbus press releases seem to hint at what I would call "John Leahy mathematics" 585 (net order book November) 75 Pegasus (announced Dec)
111 Post contains images flood : Apparently CIT's order will not feature until 2013, according to DavidKM of flightglobal - citing "little bird"
112 moo : Should still appear in the grand total of A350 orders tho...
113 Chiad : LOL ... We'll see, but I doubt it.
114 flood : Oh, I see. Looks to me like SQ's release was prepared towards the end of last year and they forgot to update it.
115 SEPilot : Weren't these counted in the 2011 total? If so, then they cannot be counted this year unless AA is suddenly going to be taking 520 of them.
116 Stitch : I believe that AA has to date firmed the 100 737NG and 100 A320 orders. They have yet to firm the 100 737 MAX and 130 A320neo orders.
117 Jack : The Airbus orders are not in the November spreadsheet, however people have quoted 2013 C/N for A319 and A321, so perhaps firmed in December or leased
118 sirtoby : The A319 and A321 will come through lessors, so we probably won't see any new order for these - maybe these lessors will top off their orders individ
119 Post contains links Someone83 : Seems like we can add another 25 A320neo for Citilink on Airbus 2012 orders, as this new order will be booked in Dec 2012 http://www.flightglobal.com/
120 Post contains links Someone83 : Another December 2012 order from Airbus: 25 A32x and 25 A32xNEO from BOC http://www.airbus.com/no_cache/press...-family-aircraft-including-25-neo/
121 Post contains links and images Leo467 : So, the new count including Airbus's "5th quarter" is 585 (net order book November) 75 Pegasus (announced Dec) 25 SIA (Dec) 20 Avalon (Dec) 25 Citilin
122 KarelXWB : @Leo467 and maybe another 200 A320 aircraft for Lion Air.
123 Chiad : Just remember that even though the media, or A-net, knows nothing about these deals, doesn't mean that they don't happen. Billion $ deals can take mo
124 moo : They were firmed but then they were removed from the order books due to the uncertainty surrounding AA's financial and legal situation after they ent
125 Post contains images Chiad : Ahhh .. so we might see a 260 strong form order from AA?
126 Post contains links and images scbriml : Press speculation is that Airbus will post "around 900" net orders for 2012. Your count is 120 short of that figure, but there are rumours that a lar
127 Post contains links india1 : 861 as per this: http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...-gap-as-2012-orders-top-27-billion If you notice, A has been announcing an order a day for th
128 Post contains images Hamlet69 : No. According to the SEC filing, the agreement was reached 11/1/13, and still needs to be approved by the court, with a hearing scheduled for 23/1/13
129 Post contains images Leo467 : @scbriml: The difference between my number above 780 and the ("900") 861 reported in the media is easy to explain: 10 CIT, 10 Mea both reported Jan by
130 Post contains links and images moo : And that caused me to go and hunt out hte SEC filing - makes for interesting reading and answers a lot of questions http://phx.corporate-ir.net/phoen
131 Post contains links jdevora : Hi, the Airbus orders where taken out from the order tally in Nov 2011, when AA firmed the bankruptcy, as you can see in page 4 of the 2011 orders pr
132 astuteman : No they weren't. As Jdevora points out above, they were withheld pending the AA Ch 11 proceedings. Rgds
133 Post contains images Heavierthanair : G'day Just announced on BBC per latest info the total Airbus orders for 2012 are around 900. Not bad, but the A-net mystery order appears missing Chee
134 PanAm_DC10 : Airbus have announced 914 Gross orders, 833 net and 588 deliveries. Includes 60 A320ceo from undisclosed Asian customer.
135 Chiad : Net orders! 305 A320CEO 478 A320NEO 82 A330 40 A350XWB 9 A380 Net orders for December: 248 There was 20 cancellations in December and 81 total for 201
136 Jack : China Eastern?
137 Leo467 : These are GROSS numbers. NET are 739 A320, 58 A330 and 27 A350XWB, 9 A380, still quite something
138 Post contains images Chiad : Net orders of December: Sorry .. ofcourse! I really meant gross. Honest. Please read what I mean, not what I write ... to avoid the confusion.
139 Hamlet69 : And finally, year-end totals for Airbus (includes November and December): Airbus Firm Orders Afriqiyah Airways - 3 A330-200 & 4 A350-900 * AirAsia
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