ZKOJH From China, joined Sep 2004, 1500 posts, RR: 1 Posted (6 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 11364 times:
Welcome to number 121 Part of the New Zealand Aviation Thread. In number 120 we talked about; New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 120 (by ZKOJH Oct 2 2012 in Civil Aviation)
* Bali services return next year
* NZ and 'STAR ALLIANCE' is it the right alliance?
* ZK-MVA first ATR 72-600 all ready to come home to New Zealand
* ATR 72-600 Routes
* Star Alliance changes for 'GOLD'
* Nelson Airport voted best airport in New Zealand
* ANZ A320 help in Sea Rescue Mission
* AKL-AMS on ''Grabaseat''
* NZ 'Nightrider' Fares drop to NZ$7 in the lead up to Xmas
* NZ third in 'Conde Nast Travelers list of best foreign airlines
* Gisborne Airport raise landing fees NZ reduce services
* WLG terminal upgrade cost 40 Million NZ$
* NZ and the new 'Hobbit 77W'
* Uzbekistan 763 in CHC along with an NZ 763!
ZKOJH From China, joined Sep 2004, 1500 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (6 months 3 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 11355 times:
and the price war has started !
''Jetstar offers 1c airfares''
That 10 cent coin in the back of your jeans could soon see you flying across the country and back.
Jetstar has launched a sale campaign across its domestic network this week with seats on sale for one cent each.
The airline is offering 600 1c airfares every weekday between 6pm and 7pm, with a total of 3000 seats on offer.
Wonder if NZ will react? Obviously not expecting 1c fares tho!
SQ have purchased a 10% share in Virgin Australia, Virgin Oz have purchased a 65% share in Tiger Australia and Virgin Oz have offered a take over price of SkyWest Australia.
Tiger launching LCC NZL services soon with a DJ code?
mariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 22719 posts, RR: 88 Reply 10, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 11070 times:
Quoting xiaotung (Reply 9): Apparently DJ has realised that you can't be a LCC and a full service carrier at the same time, which is what something NZ has been chasing to become.
Air New Zealand is profitable, so I don't know why it can't work.
Virgin Australia has (effectively) bought an undercutting competitor, based on a simple, time honoured theory - if you can't beat 'em, buy 'em.
Or DJ could use TT to their advantage like QF with JQ. Use TT for routes DJ can't operate with a good profit on due to TT's lower costs (HLZ), launch LCC leisure routes (OOL) and heck.........we might even see TT on..........domestic routes here if DJ wanted.
CHCalfonzo From New Zealand, joined Mar 2007, 161 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 10867 times:
Quoting 777ER (Reply 12): we might even see TT on..........domestic routes here if DJ wanted.
And giving the bird to NZ in the process. Like I alluded before, DJ would only allow this if NZ was onside, otherwise they would loose NZ as a partner. NZ is perfectly capable of combating JQ on their own, there is no need for a dedicated "low cost" airline to supplement NZ services.
mariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 22719 posts, RR: 88 Reply 14, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 10849 times:
Quoting 777ER (Reply 12): Or DJ could use TT to their advantage like QF with JQ. Use TT for routes DJ can't operate with a good profit on due to TT's lower costs (HLZ), launch LCC leisure routes (OOL) and heck..
Several posters on the other thread have referred to Tiger's lower costs, but I wonder how much lower they actually are.
Yes, it has a newer staff (lower pay?) but it doesn't have economies of scale on the fleet and it pays the same fuel costs as everyone else, and airport costs since since it left Avalon.
The only accounts I can find are for the Tiger group and the CASK number is not particularly low. I assume the Australian costs are higher than the system average. Additionally, the CASK went up by 12% in the last year.
It's possible the Tiger parent in Singapore is quite pleased to have someone else take over what has been a problem airline.
MotorHussy From New Zealand, joined Mar 2000, 2760 posts, RR: 10 Reply 15, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 10673 times:
On the Nightrider front, have just heard an interesting yarn from a friend I used to work with in the advertising industry...
We all know the incumbent NZ CEO is the face for the Nightrider campaign. Well apparently The Hoff, David Hasselhoff, the original Nightrider, was the intended face of the campaign. However, on his way to shoot the commercial he got so loaded on the flight, mixing booze with prescription meds, that he was unable to meet his commitments to the airline (by all accounts was a blithering mess, see youtube of him and his daughter for reference http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7jGDc-v_Nms).
NZ's advertising agency had already booked the media and the production company was waiting for talent; the airline had completed planning and back-end booking systems for Nightrider so NZ went into emergency strategy with the new face being the 'recently single' Rob Fyfe who was on-hand for the commercial shoot.
aerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6326 posts, RR: 14 Reply 16, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 10514 times:
Quoting mariner (Reply 14): Several posters on the other thread have referred to Tiger's lower costs, but I wonder how much lower they actually are.
There are so many hoops to jump through for any business in NZ of course they are not going to be lower cost than JQ. Especially for a tiny market like NZL. VA already tried and failed, and even Jetstar have not been able to expand as planned. It is hard to have lower costs when there are not enough people to fill the aircraft that are flying.
Quoting mariner (Reply 14): It's possible the Tiger parent in Singapore is quite pleased to have someone else take over what has been a problem airline.
I agree. I think SQ is glad to be rid. They have other risks like Scoot to offset.
sunrisevalley From Canada, joined Jul 2004, 3953 posts, RR: 4 Reply 17, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 10468 times:
Will be interesting to see what the flight plan is for NZ39 ( or is it NZ35) on Nov. 1st for the HKG-LHR section.Apparently the 77W might be technical restricted from flying on the Y1 airway across China that the 77E is able to use
Possibly it might look more like a CX 77W flight plan for that sector.
mariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 22719 posts, RR: 88 Reply 22, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 9948 times:
Quoting ZKOJH (Reply 19): Around 13hrs to go to the world see's the new NZ Safety Video for the 'Hobbit' and from the the small clip already out it looks FANTASTIC!
deconz From New Zealand, joined Nov 2010, 124 posts, RR: 0 Reply 23, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 9905 times:
Quoting mariner (Reply 22): I'm not particularly fond of the souped up safety videos, but I think this one is very good. It certainly held my attention.
I totally agree. Just the right mix of kiwi humor in this one!
aerorobnz From Rwanda, joined Feb 2001, 6326 posts, RR: 14 Reply 24, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 9811 times:
the new video is rather gripping - probably more so than the actual movies will be :-P Best of them by a long way - but then WETA workshop did create it...
Yes I'm sure you can expect the new briefing tonight on NZ35..
25 PA515: ZK-MVA has ADS-B and showed up on flightradar24.com as 'ZKMVA', not as an Air NZ Flight Number. It departed TLS 31 Oct at about 0958 UTC and after ex
26 cchan: Or maybe the crazy about rugby one, as the front of the plane is filled by the All Blacks?
27 Zkpilot: The video is out now.... actually a few hours ago. Quite good, has a few laughs etc and a cameo from SPJ.
28 haggis73: From an email I received at work. "CZ305 and 306 10&14 Dec will be operated by an A380. Arrival and departure will remain the same."
29 NZ107: Interesting to see what they do.. Would they be able to offload the CZ A380 at one Gates 15/16 before moving it to a remote and bringing back EK407 t
30 Zkpilot: Time for AKL to upgrade a gate to have dual airbridges. Gate 6,8,10? Whichever one has the biggest box space to the next gate with clearance behind.
31 777ER: http://www.stuff.co.nz/travel/new-ze...Air-NZ-plans-Mt-Cook-service-trial In todays Dominion Post, the article was slightly different, whats not talke
32 ZKOJH: ''Crash pilots ignored cockpit warning alerts - report'' Findings in an inquiry into an Air Nelson plane that skidded along a runway on its nose landi
33 777ER: The Fokker F27 that operated between WLG - Chatham Islands years ago made its final journey back to the Chathams this morning from Timaru by boat. NZ
34 ZKOJH: ANZ Halloween 'Grabaseat' name turns offensive ''Mayor wants apology over 'offensive' Halloween joke'' The mayor of Blenheim wants Air New Zealand to
35 MotorHussy: Apologise to who and for what? Ridiculous in my opinion. Gallows humour is perfect on Hallowe'en. Beastheim indeed.
36 SXI899: First leg was filed as LFBO-HELX (Luxor). Flight was indeed on registration, with NZM in item 18 as operator. It'll be interesting to see what the re
37 PA515: Thanks Yorden. 'ZKMVA' appeared on flightradar24.com NW of RUH at 0940UTC and 25,000 ft, tracked east to just north of BAH then southeast over AUH an
38 PA515: Yesterday a New Zealand aviation website gave the delivery routing for ZK-MVA as Toulouse, Luxor, Muscat, Colombo, Singapore/Seletar, Darwin, Brisbane
39 bonzolab: Indeed the routing is a 6 day journey through Luxor, Muscat, Columbo, Singapore, Bali, Darwin and Brisbane. Here are some more pics, interior looks gr
40 NZ107: Looking great! Now if someone could post a schedule for its first week in operation... Can't wait to try it out!
41 Mr AirNZ: I looked tday. Mount Cook ops no doubt have some plan but nothing showing in the general system for others in the business to see yet.
42 NZ1: ZK-MVA is currently scheduled as follows: Thurs 15th Nov CHC-DUD NZ5051 DUD-CHC NZ5052 CHC-ROT NZ5378 ROT-CHC NZ5379 CHC-DUD NZ5099 Fri 16th Nov DUD-C
43 NZ107: Thanks, any chance of you posting Sunday's schedule?
44 ZKOJH: And the battle between Air New Zealand and Jetstar heat up even more; ''Air NZ offers free flights to Christchurch'' Air New Zealand is offering free
45 WSTAKL: So NZ moaned about JQ copying their initial promo, but now NZ is basically copying JQ! What gives?
46 777ER: Totally agree, Beasthem should just get over it and move on. Its them who are bringing back a past which they would rather forget about! Competition
47 PA515: ANZ35 showed up on flightradar24.com just south of between Almaty and Bishkek. At 0628UTC it was heading 295 at 32,000ft and 490kt. At 0634UTC about
48 ZKOJH: it seems that NZ have got it right with the new 'Hobbit' Safety film Even Sky News in London picked it up this morning, ''A four-minute-long Air New Z
49 SXI899: Doesn't look like there were any restrictions on the routing, although there was a notable difference when compared to other B77W routings on the sam
50 777ER: Interesting difference in flight routes between NZ and CX/BA considering every aircraft was B77Ws. Wonder why NZ decided to fly further south?
51 PA515: Nice. Thanks. Since I started using flightradar24.com earlier this year ANZ39 (now ANZ35) has always been a southerly routing over Kazakhstan into so
52 ZKOJH: great maps! Would it not save fuel going further south?
53 NZ107: Quite interesting, especially as it still transverses a part of Russia. Regardless if 77W or not, CX have operated that northerly route for a long ti
54 ZKOJH: An interesting read , ''Air NZ wedges passengers into seats'' After Americans and Australians, New Zealanders are the fattest people on the planet, bu
55 Kaiarahi: I don't know which nostril they plucked their information from, but I just looked at the WHO world BMI statistics (because I was surprised by the sta
56 SXI899: Pretty much everyone except ANZ takes the northerly route, CX, BA, and VS. The Cathay flights operated with other types (CPA255 - A343; CPA257 - B744
57 KiwiRob: I'd say that the kiwi's who are responsible for making our average weight as hefty as it's become are not the kind of kiwis that can afford to fly lo
58 WSTAKL: Ahhh the classic Kiwi sweeping generalization comment from the white middle class!
59 MotorHussy: In general, we're all getting larger yet Y seats are getting smaller. Is it coming to a point where IATA and governments to either intervene or get s
60 KiwiRob: It's sadly not a generalisation, statistics say that I'm correct, http://www.socialreport.msd.govt.nz/health/obesity.html It's not the size of the se
61 sunrisevalley: Are you able to calculate the airways distance for both routes?
62 nZ99: MVA is now enroute DPS-DRW. Interesting to see the flight filed with AT75 aircraft type http://flightaware.com/live/flight/ZKMVA
63 Zkpilot: When QF operated the HKG-LHR route with 744 they also usually took the Southerly route over the 'stans
64 SXI899: For ANZ35, the track distance was 5536nm, for the two Cathay flights it was 5455nm, and for the BA flight it was 5476nm. To show how much of an effec
65 MotorHussy: Please don't purport to be an expert on something you're clearly not. And stop using data selectively to support such an insulting argument. I'm a Ne
66 KiwiRob: Being overweight and being of pacific island or maori decent is a fact, the statistics bear this out. You could also add that the reduced economic st
67 mariner: Back to the future? When I first started flying we were often weighed at check-in, especially if it was a flight on a smaller aircraft such as a Drag
68 aklrno: I'm looking forward to that. I'd save a lot of money. In addition it would give the airlines a positive incentive to feed us better meals!
69 PA515: ZKMVA on flightradar24.com about to depart DRW. PA515
70 PA515: Something happening with ZKMVA. Descended from 25,000 ft to 23,000ft and soon after circled for about 30 mins 100kms west of Maryborough. Resumed towa
71 PA515: ZKMVA landed BNE about 11 mins ago. PA515
72 NZ1: Air NZ is dropping the HKG-LHR sector. Interesting that NZ have chosen to align with CX who are part of Oneworld. Air New Zealand will withdraw servic
73 NZ107: And now with that done, they should also exit out of China and codeshare fully through CX/KA for flights to PVG and PEK but also to so many other pla
74 koruman: Shame. HKG-LHR was only ever going to be viable if Hong Kong was developed as a mini-hub with feed from Australia as well as New Zealand. The failure
76 LAXintl: Well in many ways the tourism and maybe even commercial future of New Zealand is tied to China to some degree. If anything NZ should look at ways to
77 mariner: Halleluja! Still, it is interesting to watch the change in economic realities. When I first arrived in NZ in 1965, the UK was called "home", ships fr
78 sunrisevalley: I am going to date myself, I remember flying from IVC to DUN on one just before Christmas 1954.
80 mariner: Cute, efficient aircraft, and quite comfortable for their small size. The only real problem was that the ones on which I flew didn't have a lav and o
81 777ER: An article in todays paper about NZ axing HKG-LHR http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...ore-Air-New-Zealand-deals-expected I remember my LHR-HKG flig
82 aerokiwi: Actually, I just read a New Yorker article on the matter, and there's now pretty strong evidence that a single bacteria that lives in our gut and has
83 koruman: I don't understand why you persist in making this argument. As you know, routes from other western countries - even Australia - to China carry signif
84 LAXintl: Its not a matter of persistence, then simply stating reality. The dynamics of the Pacific rim, and broader world are changing. For Pacific nations we
85 NZ107: But then you ask yourself how long they must wait to reap rewards; and if it was actually beneficial to the airline to maintain such a route instead
86 mariner: There is a considerable resistance to that concept, though, at least in some airline circles. There was a huge negative reaction to Qantas pulling ou
87 LAXintl: Fair question. If you look at US airlines many of whom have served China for 20-years, some report say its still a loss making venture as recently as
88 koruman: No, it's just that in general only the very, very affluent can actually get a Visa to travel to the USA, so you have a situation which is skewed by i
89 xiaotung: This is no longer than case. I have a few very low income friends who have had their visas issued without any problem. You would find that the US has
90 CHCalfonzo: Airline plans tip China growth - NZ Herald Interesting article, talks about CZ increasing services to NZ. I wonder if CHC would be on their radar.
91 aerorobnz: It has been on their radar for some time, but the Earthquake has prevented any plans for the time being
92 KiwiRob: Come on you can't make a sweeping statement like that without any proof, unless you're actually working for ANZ you have no knowledge of the demograp
93 ZKOJH: that's 2 long haul routes gone PEK, and now HKG-LHR , don't things usually work in 3's? got the feeling that HNL will be next, So is the Japan market
94 zeke: Some news on NZ plans for next year from CAPA today, explains where they redeploying the capacity from the HKG-LHR route. • Auckland-Honolulu: Capac
95 NZ107: Because it's just been upgraded to a 772? That defies logic..
96 koruman: Honolulu unfortunately might face the axe. Air NZ's problem has been that on the 767 Hawaiian is matching them - beating them to be precise - for pric
98 nascarnut: The Black ATR ZK-MVA scheduled to operate some proving flights on 12th/13th On the 12th as follows IVC between 1210 - 1430 DUD between 1500 - 1600 Ret
99 NZ107: http://www.stuff.co.nz/business/indu...7/Capital-chasing-air-link-to-Asia Haha, the return of the talk about WLG direct flights to Asia. At this stage
100 NZ1: Good to see it out flying early. I posted the first few days days flying schedule up at post #42 from 15th Nov. NZ1
101 WSTAKL: Anyone know what type of aircraft Prince Charles and Camilla are flying to NZ on? Landing at Whenuapai.
102 ZKOJH: Flights from WLG to Asia really? The only two that could have a go are China Southern and Dragonair, but CZ are already looking at increasing AKL, doe
103 ZKSUJ: Nope, too short. TBH why would a carrier start WLG ahead of CHC? At least at CHC the infrastructure is already there
104 sunrisevalley: The press report says direct . It does not say direct non-stop.
105 NZ107: http://centreforaviation.com/analysi...-and-for-sia--china-southern-87844 An interesting read..
106 ZKOJH: Prince Charles and Camilla flew into Whenuapai on a RNZAF 757
107 deconz: We missed her @ IVC yesterday as NZ cancelled all her flights late morning. I see she is about to land @ NSN as NZ5970. Any idea if we might see the
108 bonzolab: Hi not sure if this has been mentioned already but AT7s now do AKL-TRG return on Fridays evenings.
109 nascarnut: MVA is due back into IVC on the 16th. Currentky scheduled to operate as follows NZ5061 CHC-IVC eta 1125 NZ5062 IVC-CHC etd 1145 At the moment that is
110 ZKOJH: Lets get ready for - ''On Saturday 24 November, Air New Zealand’s Hobbit inspired Boeing 777-300 will be revealed to the world! This spectacular air
111 777ER: Frequent flyers get easy NZ visa pass - http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/poli...quent-flyers-get-easy-NZ-visa-pass Immigration New Zealand has stuck a
112 nzrich: Eagle Air has suspended Wanaka operations last flight is the end of Jan http://www.voxy.co.nz/business/eagle...r-suspends-flights-wanaka/5/140566
113 rwy21: Was kind of a hard position with Queenstown and Dunedin Airports on either side with considerably higher flight frequency and cheaper fares
114 deconz: Hardly either side ... DUD is 252km away by road while ZQN is only 63km. Hell it's only 422km to CHC so I don't see why anyone in Wanaka would seriou
116 deconz: True. But you wouldn't come down here for superior connections (or airfares!!!)
117 777ER: China Southern is sending an A380 to AKL on December 10th due to CZs annual meeting in AKL China Southern Will Send 380 To AKL! (by justinlee Nov 14 2
118 aerokiwi: Can anyone confirm what loads are usually like on NZ from MEL and SYD to AKL on Christmas Day? I've flown several times over the Tasman on Virgin on D
119 zkojq: Agreed. It seems that the deal was in-part negotiated by SkyCity so that they can bring high value gamblers to their casino more easily. I have conce
120 rwy21: I guess you havent lived in Wanaka, my family and friends have always considered it an option, while its always nice to fly out of WKA, it was often
121 nzrich: Yes totally agree and when a destination is served only with the Beach there is zero chance of getting a really reasonable fare all the time . I have
122 alangirvan: You said Beach when you meant Beech, but interesting thought - what types can get into the strip at Milford Sound - does it have to be General Aviatio
123 aerorobnz: Runway is only 792m at MFN. Compared to other BEH ports like WAG/WHK/GIS/MRO which are all 1250m+ GAF Nomads, BN Islanders Gippsland Airvans, Cessna
124 ZKSUJ: I agree seeing the koru into a place like Milford would be cool. But logistically it's not a go. Even if a B1900 could operate out of there (remember
125 NZ107: BA has Twotters.. No harm in NZ getting smaller planes
126 BonzoLab: As logical as one would think Wanaka cannot be used as an ALT on Queenstown for many reasons, no RFS, no ATC, and the main one being it's non-certific
127 NZ1: It's the same old story I'm afraid. If people don't use the service then it is unfair to complain and be upset if the airline withdraws it. NZ is not
128 axio: It seems the weather has been a bit entertaining for an NZ 747 in BNE: http://i.imgur.com/9SLcY.jpg (original source: http://www.reddit.com/r/pics/com
129 777ER: Sydney getting new NZ Tasman check-in kiosks - http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/press...n-kiosks-will-save-passengers-time
130 cchan: An interesting note on this page regarding the new CX flights for Air Points members: http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/co-operation-partners-cathay-paci
131 xiaotung: If that was the case, there would be no reason to book with NZ. Everyone will just book with CX and there is no way CX will be adopting the S2S model
132 mariner: I have no idea what the resistance is to S2S here. I love it. mariner
133 xiaotung: Because at times it just doesn't make any sense. You will not love it when you buy an expensive flexi fare or a full economy fare and find that your
134 NZ107: Depends on the fare.. Those who are the real bargain hunters might appreciate S2S to HKG - leave with nothing and then buy up large in HK. May save t
135 mariner: I've never had that trouble with it - or any trouble - and I resist all of Air NZ's offers to bid for an upgrade to Business. mariner
136 cchan: I was reading a bit more details on the NZ website regarding the so-called alliance between NZ and CX, if my understanding is correct, it is just a si
137 nz2: Fully agree, a shame but reality You obviously have never had to make an urgent trip to Oz and find fares are $600-$700 or more ONE way with seat onl
138 777ER: Can't find anything on the HKG-LHR sector? An excellent excuse to try CX next time to HKG
139 mariner: Not for a while, those days are behind me. But is that a factor of S2S? As long as I've been travelling people have been complaining about last-minut
140 xiaotung: But don't airlines make most of their Econony Class money on those last minute expensive fares? Yes people have been complaining about them but by re
141 mariner: My experience of this is mostly in the US, but I've always thought that was a bit of an airline legend. It would mean that the airline is relying on
142 xiaotung: If you are talking about UA then no I would not have to pay for my first 2 bags with any *G status. That's another problem with NZ. There will be mar
143 mariner: I wasn't talking about United, I can't find that $70 roundtrip fare on United. If you can, you're smarter at this than I am. I don't know why there s
144 777ER: I'm looking at booking flights to the USA at Christmas and noticed the VA code-share deal also applies to VAs international flights (excluding the Isl
145 PA515: Anyone know why nothing was allowed to land at Auckland International until after 0430 this morning. The sky was clear but six aircraft were waiting t
146 Mr AirNZ: One likely reason but since the NOTAM detailing what it was is gone I can only offer an educated guess (someone else will no doubt jump in if it was
147 koruman: No Status Points on any flight operated by ANY carrier outside the Star Alliance, apart from Virgin Trans-Tasman when booked under an NZ code. Whereas
148 haggis73: Mr Air NZ is quite correct. AIAL preform essential runway manitenance work early on Monday mornings every week. Airport is closed but can reopen if a
149 mariner: Following the slight dilution after the Singapore Airlines buy, Air NZ has restored its stake in Virgin Australia to 19.9%: http://www.nbr.co.nz/artic
150 777ER: Sweet, thank you. Looking at trying a different way to the USA for a bit of an adventure. Maybe via China this time?
151 byronicle6: Air New Zealand will offer a second season of non-stop Sunshine Coast services next winter. "The direct service will operate twice a week on Tuesdays
152 777ER: Air NZ from November 22nd will offer advance seat selection for a fee and pre-paid extra baggage http://www.airnewzealand.co.nz/seat-...=email&utm
153 cchan: Does NZ still put passengers on VS on this sector?
154 aerorobnz: Not to mention Star Golds now being able to pay for a seat only and be entitled to one 23kg bag.
155 NZ1: For those that can get to AKL this Saturday, don't forget to pop along to the Airport for a look at OKP as it's rolled out of the Hangar. From what I'
156 aerorobnz: I'm hoping to be at the reveal. It should be good - certainly better than the standard livery.
157 777ER: NZ1, is there any idea if -OKP will land/fly over Wellington during the street party next week?
158 NZ1: 777ER, OKP is scheduled to land in WLG to drop off Hobbit cast and crew prior to the movie premiere. NZ1
159 sunrisevalley: Is this a paint job or is it decals etc.?
161 NZ1: It's decals on the fuselage and paint on the tail NZ1
162 NZ107: I guess the livery is going to outdo the LOTR ones.. http://www.travelweekly.com.au/trave...r-nz-aircraft-gets-hobbit-makeover
163 texan: The Mount Tongariro eruption has led airlines to cancel some flights. Expect some more cancelations until we figure out the speed/direction/quantity o
164 777ER: Any idea yet on the schedule? A TUO-WLG and WLG-TUO sector was cancelled. All TUO, Wanganui, WLG-Whangarei, WLG-PMR, AKL-BHE, GIS, PMR-HLZ and two AM
165 ZKSUJ: All flights to and from Taupo, Rotorua and Gisborne are cancelled tomorrow morning at this stage. Afternoon flights yet to be confirmed
166 motorhussy: On the eruption front, yesterday at WLG the check-in team for Jetstar abandoned their posts and decided to tell passengers nothing about delays to fli
167 texan: A pilot found the site of a suspected 2004 crash of a Hughes 500 helicopter in which two people died. http://www.stuff.co.nz/national/7981...age-likel
168 NZ107: JQ must have tried forging a Ring of Power in Mt Doom's sister volcano
169 ZKOJH: Looking forward to see what comes out of the hanger! '“The hobbit imagery will cover the length of the 73 metre Boeing 777-300ER aircraft' did the L
170 777ER: The LOTR decals covered just over half to around 80-90% of each aircraft, with ZK-NBV having just under half of the rear covered View Large View Medi
172 ZKEOJ: How beautiful! Can't wait to see it in all its glory!!!!
173 NZ1: The reveal is being live streamed here: http://www.theflyingsocialnetwork.com/archives/6289 NZ1
174 TheCommodore: Not really impressed at all. Looks way to "busy" to even see what it is unless you are close up. Shame, lost opportunity for ANZ.
175 NZ107: Suit yourself. I'd much rather have this than a boring white plane.
176 NZ6: Not sure how you work that one out. The global publicity from the revel of this decal and the safety video via social media is priceless. In fact the
177 Palmyboy12: In 2009, when the Sharklets for the A320 was first released, NZ was announced as launch customer, but the only A320 with Sharklets in an airline's ful
178 aotearoa: I believe ANZ were the first customer to order the sharklets, so by virtue of this order were called a 'launch customer' by Airbus. However they will
179 aerorobnz: I know that it saves money for base spec cockpit and ongoing EDTO and IFE maintenance costs but does it seem unusual to anyone else that NZ don't gai
180 NZ107: I think so too.. Especially seeing that the sharkletted ones are likely to generate greater cost savings than the original A320s; adding to the argum
181 WSTAKL: Some help please, just been having a look at flightradar24 and noticed an aircraft with a call sign of 525C112 flying up the west coast of both island
182 aerorobnz: It is a Cessna 525 CJ4 ZK-PGA (cn c/n 525C-0112)
183 aotearoa: Actually the Regional and Domestic markets are quite different, and therefore drive different a/c specifications and layouts. Let me try and explain.
184 texan: Any idea about the schedule? I'd love to get out and catch it coming in and leaving. Texan
185 aerorobnz: Yes it does in general, but with a few more ponderings Given that an aircraft can operate on an MEL with a u/s toilet and still match international r
186 texan: The Hobbit is on the ground at WLG. Doing a low level fly-by tomorrow, but I don't remember the exact time right now. Will check in and hopefully post
187 NZ107: Just landed, apparently off again at 1215. Then the flyover's tomorrow around 1730. Would it work over the Tasman?
188 texan: Gracias. We made it out for the takeoff. Great sight, gorgeous plane. Since the flyover tomorrow will be at 1,000 feet, we'll be up at the Mount Vic
189 aerokiwi: Can totally understand this logic. It's part of the reason Jetstar (and before it, JetConnect) is such a basketcase for reliability on New Zealand do
190 NZ107: Towards the end, the 733s were purely on domestic flights. I'd say ZQN was more of a factor in delays than anything else.. And it still hampers JQ.
191 NZ1: Article on the Hobbit cast & crews' arrival in WLG aboard the themed 777-300ER ZK-OKP. Would have made for a great sight parked up at WLG. http://
192 aerokiwi: Likely a contributing factor, but I know from a source at Qantas HQ that the integrated Tasman/NZ domestic operations are a core reason for JQ's dome
193 777ER: Anyone know the planned flight path over Wellington? Would love to go to the Mt Vic lookout and watch it but think the hills above Thorndon would be
194 777ER: Simply shocking since the pax were re-booked on a flight nearly 1 week later when there were other flights earlier!
195 Megatop747-412: Yep totally agree! Read somewhere in today's papers that JQ is now scrambling to put on an extra flight pre X'mas. I would be keen to know the "real"
196 NZ1: Not sure of the exact flightpath, but yes it is NZ6693. The NZ2964 flight is a regular Eagle Air pilot training flight. NZ1
197 PA515: Today's ZK-OKP AKL- WLG was ANZ6691 and WLG-AKL ANZ6692. ANZ6693 at 1530 must be ZK-OKP, but that's two hours before the 1730 flyby in WLG. PA515[Edi
198 NZ107: Hmm, any flyby of AKL or a slow flight planned?
199 deconz: Media reports claimed 80 pax affected ... not a great load for that premium time of the year!!!
200 NZ107: Unless the rest of the passengers accepted the changes/refund or something..
201 aerokiwi: I believe the email (yes, email) message the passengers got informing them of the change alluded to cancelling the flight to allow JQ to keep "everyd
202 ZKSUJ: Ahh you see many people probably booked on NZ or QF so they can be sure they will actually get to Christmas dinner with the family etc on time and on
203 NZ1: Please continue discussion here: New Zealand Aviation Thread Part 122 (by NZ1 Nov 27 2012 in Civil Aviation) NZ1 Forum Moderator
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