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OAG Changes 11/2/2012: DL/UA/US/WN  
User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8928 times:

INSTRUCTIONS

WHAT IS THIS REPORT?
This compares what is for sale THIS WEEK for the stated period versus what was for sale LAST WEEK...It does NOT compare to last year or now (UNLESS OTHERWISE STATED).

HOW DO I READ IT?
XXX-YYY DEC 4>5 JAN 4>5 ; means that the listed airline changed the frequency between the two airports to add from 4 to 5 roundtrips in December and January. No other months were changed. I only list one direction, although it is possible the listed change is only one way. It is too difficult to average the two directions. I assume the change is roundtrip and that is most often the case.

HOW ARE THE DAILY DEPARTURES CALCULATED?
This report uses total operations for the month listed, divided over the days in the month.

WHAT ARE THE FRACTIONAL FLIGHTS?
Non-daily operations create fractional weekly service. In most cases flights are rounded, but in the case of international service or markets with low frequency, fractions are shown. If a flight operated 5 days out of 7, it would show 0.8 flights.

WHY ARE THERE WEIRD FREQUENCIES IN FAR AWAY MONTHS FOR LCCs?
Most airlines publish schedules 11 months in advance. This report covers the next 9 months. That avoids seeing schedules as they are loaded. Several LCCs load their schedules less than 9 months into the future. Their schedules may also end mid-month. If B6 loads their schedule until Jan15, all flights in Janaury will show half frequency because of the way the report is created.

WHY IS A WHOLE AIRLINE'S SCHEDULE SHOWN AS CHANGING FOR A FUTURE MONTH?
Similarly to the previous question, some airlines load their schedule from nothing inside the 9 month window of this report. When their schedule is extended it will show as new service because there was no previous schedule to compare to. In some instances I will show a more valid comparison against another period.

THOSE FLIGHTS AREN'T DELTA, THEY ARE PINNACLE
This report only shows the marketing code. It is too complicated to show all the operators.

THE FREQUENCIES MAY HAVE CHANGED AS YOU SHOW, BUT THE SEATS DIDNT CHANGE BECAUSE OF EQUIPMENT SWAPS
That is a natural weakness of a frequency based report, but it provides something to discuss below.

THE FREQUENCY DOESN'T SHOW A CHANGE, E.G. 4>4
This happens as a result of rounding. There is a change in service that is large enough to be listed, but through rounding it does not appear.

I marked some of the ones I thought were interesting with an "*".

9K BWI-HGR DEC 4>0 JAN 4>0 FEB 4>0 MAR 4>0 APR 5>0 MAY 5>0 JUN 4>0 JUL 5>0
9K BWI-LNS DEC 5>0 JAN 5>0 FEB 5>0 MAR 5>0 APR 5>0 MAY 5>0 JUN 5>0 JUL 5>0

AC ALB-YYZ DEC 1.7>1.5
AC BNA-YYZ DEC 1.7>1.4
AC BOS-YOW DEC 1.7>1.5
AC BOS-YUL DEC 6>5
AC CVG-YYZ DEC 1.7>1.3 JAN 1.7>1.6
AC DTW-YYZ DEC 4>3
AC GRR-YYZ DEC 1.7>1.4
AC IND-YYZ DEC 1.8>1.6
AC LGA-YYZ DEC 13>12
AC MDT-YYZ DEC 1.8>1.5
AC MKE-YYZ DEC 1.7>1.4 JAN 1.7>1.6
AC MSP-YYZ DEC 4>3
AC PVD-YYZ DEC 1.5>1.2
AC RIC-YYZ DEC 1.7>1.5
AC ROC-YYZ DEC 1.7>1.5
AC STL-YYZ DEC 1.7>1.5
AC SYR-YYZ DEC 1.7>1.5

AF IAD-CDG APR 2>1.7
*AF MSP-CDG MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0

AM FAT-GDL DEC 0.5>0.7
AM LAS-GDL DEC 0.3>0 JAN 0.3>0 FEB 0.3>0 MAR 0.1>0

**BA EWR-ORY DEC 0>1.7 JAN 0>1.7 FEB 0>1.7 MAR 0>1.7 APR 0>1.8 MAY 0>1.7 JUN 0>1.9 JUL 0>1.8
**BA JFK-ORY APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0

BB SJU-STT JAN 4>5 FEB 3>5 MAR 2>5 APR 2>6 MAY 2>6 JUN 0>4 JUL 0>4
BB SJU-STX JAN 3>5 FEB 3>6 MAR 3>6 APR 1.2>7 MAY 1.1>7 JUN 0>5 JUL 0>5
BB STT-SJU JAN 4>5 FEB 3>6 MAR 3>6 APR 3>7 MAY 3>7 JUN 0.4>5 JUL 0.4>5
BB STT-STX JAN 1.7>4 FEB 1.0>4 MAR 1.0>4 APR 1.0>4 MAY 1.0>3 JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2
BB STX-SJU FEB 4>6 MAR 4>7 APR 4>8 MAY 4>8 JUN 0>5 JUL 0>5

BW FLL-POS APR 1.0>0.8 MAY 1.0>0.9 JUN 1.0>0.9 JUL 1.0>0.9
BW MCO-POS MAR 0.1>0.3 APR 0>0.3 MAY 0>0.3 JUN 0>0.3 JUL 0>0.3

DL DTW-AVL JAN 0.1>0.0
DL DTW-PVG DEC 1.0>0.9
DL DTW-YOW DEC 1.8>1.7
Not coming back...
*DL JFK-VLC MAY 0.3>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
DL LAX-IND DEC 0.3>0.2
Looks like I won a bet
**DL MEM-AMS MAY 0.6>0 JUN 0.5>0 JUL 0.6>0
DL MEM-JFK JAN 0.1>0.0

EP ILL-THR DEC 0>1.8 JAN 0>1.9 FEB 0>1.9 MAR 0>1.8 APR 0>1.9 MAY 0>1.9 JUN 0>1.8 JUL 0>1.9

*G3 MCO-SDQ DEC 0>0.5 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>0.8 APR 0>0.7 MAY 0>0.7 JUN 0>0.7 JUL 0>1.0

HA HNL-BNE MAR 0.4>0.7 APR 0.4>0.6 MAY 0.4>0.5

HI BLD-GCW MAR 0.3>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0

KE GUM-ICN DEC 2>1.3

LA LAX-LIM APR 1.8>1.0 MAY 1.9>1.0
LA SFO-LIM FEB 0.6>0.3 MAR 0.6>0.1 APR 0.6>0 MAY 0.6>0 JUN 0.6>0 JUL 0.5>0

LI SJU-ANU JUL 1.0>0.1
LI SJU-EIS JAN 1.0>0.3 FEB 1.0>0 MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0
LI SJU-SVD JUL 0.9>0
LI STT-AXA JAN 0.7>1.0 FEB 0.6>1.0 MAR 0.6>1.0 APR 0.6>1.0 MAY 0.5>1.0 JUN 0.6>1.0 JUL 1.0>0.1
LI STT-SXM FEB 1.1>1.0 MAR 1.1>1.0 APR 1.1>1.0 MAY 1.2>1.0 JUN 1.1>1.0 JUL 1.0>0.1
LI STX-SXM JAN 0.6>0.9 FEB 0.6>1.0 MAR 0.6>1.0 APR 0.6>1.0 MAY 0.5>1.0 JUN 0.6>1.0 JUL 0.5>0.1

LR MIA-MGA DEC 0.1>0.2

LW HGR-IAD DEC 0>2 JAN 0>2 FEB 0>2 MAR 0>2 APR 0>2 MAY 0>2 JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2
LW IAD-LNS DEC 0>2 JAN 0>2 FEB 0>2 MAR 0>2 APR 0>2 MAY 0>2 JUN 0>2 JUL 0>2

NK MCO-ORD FEB 1.5>1.0 MAR 2>1.0 APR 1.8>1.0

OR LAX-AMS JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.2
OR MIA-AMS MAY 0>0.1 JUN 0>0.1 JUL 0>0.2

S4 BOS-LIS JUL 0.1>0.3
S4 BOS-PDL APR 0.3>0.4 MAY 0.3>0.5 JUN 0.3>0.6 JUL 0.3>0.7
S4 BOS-TER JUN 0>0.2 JUL 0>0.1

SY MSP-ANC JUL 1.5>1.4

UA CLE-MCO MAR 3>4
UA CLE-MHT APR 3>1.6 MAY 3>1.6 JUN 3>1.8 JUL 3>1.9
UA CLE-PVD MAY 4>3 JUN 4>1.8 JUL 4>1.9
UA CLE-RDU JUN 1.8>3 JUL 1.9>3
UA DEN-CLE APR 4>3
UA DEN-DAL JAN 0.1>0.0
UA GUM-NRT MAR 3>4
UA IAH-AMA APR 4>3
UA IAH-BOS MAY 4>5
UA IAH-BTR MAY 8>9
UA IAH-CHS MAY 1.9>3
UA IAH-DGO JUL 1.0>0.8
UA IAH-LAS APR 8>9 MAY 8>9
UA IAH-MCI MAY 8>9 JUL 8>9
UA IAH-MEM MAY 5>6 JUL 5>6
UA IAH-MFE JUN 8>9 JUL 8>9
UA IAH-OMA MAY 5>6 JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6
UA IAH-PHX APR 7>5 MAY 7>5 JUN 7>5 JUL 7>5
UA IAH-RSW MAR 3>4
UA IAH-SEA JUN 6>7 JUL 6>7
UA IAH-SMF MAR 2>3
UA IAH-TYS MAR 3>1.8
UA IAH-YVR MAY 1.0>2 JUN 1.0>3 JUL 1.0>3
UA LAX-ABQ APR 1.5>1.0
UA LAX-ASE JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0
UA LAX-BOS MAR 0.8>1.6
UA LAX-BZN JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0
UA LAX-EWR MAR 7>6
UA LAX-IAH MAR 12>11 APR 12>11 MAY 13>11
UA LAX-JAC JUL 0>1.0
UA ORD-AVL JAN 1.0>1.8 FEB 1.0>2
UA ORD-BIL JUL 0>0.7
UA ORD-FCA JUL 0>1.0
UA ORD-IAH APR 12>13 MAY 12>13 JUN 12>13 JUL 12>13
UA ORD-MKE JAN 9>8
UA ORD-MSO JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0
UA ORD-RAP JUN 1.0>3 JUL 1.0>3
UA SFO-JAC JUL 0>1.0
UA SFO-MSO JUN 0>0.8 JUL 0>1.0

US CLT-BZE JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3
US CLT-CZM JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3
US CLT-DEN JUN 5>6 JUL 5>6
US CLT-JAX MAY 7>8 JUN 7>8 JUL 7>8
US CLT-LAX APR 4>5 MAY 4>5 JUN 4>5 JUL 4>5
US CLT-MIA MAY 7>6 JUN 7>6 JUL 7>6
US CLT-NAS JUL 4>3
US CLT-PBI MAY 6>5 JUN 6>4 JUL 6>4
US CLT-PDX APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
US CLT-PLS JUN 1.0>1.3 JUL 1.0>1.3
US CLT-RSW MAY 7>5 JUN 7>4 JUL 7>4
US CLT-SEA APR 1.0>1.7 MAY 1.0>4 JUN 1.0>4 JUL 1.0>4
US CLT-SFO APR 4>5 MAY 4>5 JUN 4>5 JUL 4>5
US CLT-SMF MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
US CLT-TPA MAY 9>8 JUN 9>8 JUL 9>8
US DCA-FLL MAY 5>4 JUN 5>4 JUL 5>4
US DCA-MCO APR 7>8
US DCA-NAS JUN 1.2>1.0 JUL 1.1>1.0
US DCA-PBI MAY 4>3 JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3
US DCA-RSW APR 4>1.7 MAY 4>0.3 JUN 4>0.2 JUL 4>0.1
US PHL-DEN JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3
US PHL-FLL JUN 5>4 JUL 5>4
US PHL-LAX MAR 5>7 APR 4>6 MAY 4>6 JUN 4>6 JUL 4>6
US PHL-MBJ JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3
US PHL-MCO JUN 8>7 JUL 8>7
US PHL-MIA JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3
US PHL-PBI MAY 4>3 JUN 4>3 JUL 4>3
US PHL-PDX MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
US PHL-RSW MAY 4>3 JUN 4>2 JUL 4>2
US PHL-SAN MAY 2>3 JUN 2>3 JUL 2>3
US PHL-SEA MAR 1.0>1.9 APR 1.0>2 MAY 1.0>4 JUN 1.0>4 JUL 1.0>4
US PHL-SFO APR 3>4 MAY 3>5 JUN 3>5 JUL 3>5
US PHL-SMF MAY 0>0.9 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0
US PHL-SXM JUN 0.3>0.5 JUL 0.3>0.4
US PHX-CLT APR 8>9 MAY 8>9 JUN 8>9 JUL 8>9
US PHX-EWR JUN 3>4 JUL 3>4
US PHX-FLL JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0
US PHX-LAS JAN 8>9
US PHX-PVR JUN 4>3
US PHX-TPA JUN 3>1.7 JUL 3>1.7
US PHX-ZLO JUN 0.2>0 JUL 0.1>0

VS SFO-LHR FEB 0.9>0.8

Please note the following is the combined FL/WN schedule using a year-over-year comparison because WN doesn't typically change its published schedule.
WN ABQ-ELP MAR 1.6>0 APR 1.9>0 MAY 1.8>0
WN ABQ-PDX MAR 1.0>0.7
WN ABQ-STL MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0
WN ABQ-TUS APR 2>1.4 MAY 2.0>1.0
WN ALB-TPA MAR 1.1>3
WN ATL-AUA MAR 1.0>0.6 APR 1.0>0.6 MAY 1.0>0.6
WN ATL-BKG MAR 1.4>0.3 APR 1.8>0 MAY 2>0
WN ATL-BWI MAR 8>9
WN ATL-CLT MAR 3>4 APR 2>1.4 MAY 2>0
WN ATL-FNT MAR 3>2 APR 3>0.8 MAY 3>0
WN ATL-HOU MAR 6>8 APR 7>8 MAY 7>8
WN ATL-LGA MAR 9>8 APR 9>8 MAY 9>8
WN ATL-MDW MAR 8>10 APR 8>9 MAY 8>9
WN ATL-MEM MAR 4>5 APR 4>5 MAY 4>5
WN ATL-MKE MAR 6>5 APR 6>5
WN ATL-ORF MAR 0>3 APR 0>3 MAY 0>3
WN ATL-PHL MAY 5>4
WN ATL-PHX APR 3>1.9 MAY 3>2
WN ATL-PUJ MAR 1.0>1.6 APR 1.1>1.4 MAY 1.0>1.3
WN ATL-RDU MAY 4>3
WN ATL-ROC APR 2>1.0 MAY 2>0
WN ATL-SAT MAR 3>4 APR 3>4 MAY 3>4
WN ATL-SDF MAR 0>3 APR 0>3 MAY 0>3
WN ATL-SFO APR 3>2 MAY 3>2
WN ATL-SJU MAR 1.6>1.2 APR 3>1.3 MAY 3>1.3
WN ATL-TPA MAR 7>8
WN AUS-CUN MAR 0>0.6 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0.1>0.4
WN AUS-DCA MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0
WN AUS-EWR MAR 0>0.7 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0
WN AUS-HOU MAR 5>6
WN BDL-RSW MAY 0>0.9
WN BHM-BNA MAR 2>0 APR 2>0 MAY 1.9>0
WN BHM-PHX MAR 0.7>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0
WN BKG-DAL MAR 0>0.7 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0
WN BKG-HOU MAR 0>0.7
WN BKG-MDW MAR 0>0.7
WN BNA-BOS MAR 0>1.8 APR 0>1.9 MAY 0>1.8
WN BNA-BWI APR 7>6 MAY 7>6
WN BNA-EWR MAR 0>1.5 APR 0>2 MAY 0>2
WN BNA-FLL MAY 2>3
WN BNA-LGA MAR 0>1.9 APR 0>2.0 MAY 0>2
WN BNA-MSY MAR 3>4 APR 3>4 MAY 3>4
WN BNA-SAN APR 1.6>1.0 MAY 1.9>1.0
WN BOI-PDX APR 2.0>0.8 MAY 1.9>0
WN BOS-BWI MAR 13>11
WN BOS-MCI APR 0>1.1 MAY 0>1.9
WN BOS-MCO MAR 1.7>1.2
WN BOS-MDW MAR 5>4
WN BOS-RSW APR 1.3>0.9 MAY 1.0>0
WN BUF-BWI MAY 7>6
WN BUR-DEN APR 1.9>0.8 MAY 1.9>0
WN BUR-LAS MAR 11>10
WN BWI-AUA MAR 0.3>0.7 APR 0.3>0.7 MAY 0.3>0.7
WN BWI-BDA APR 0.7>0 MAY 1.0>0.3
WN BWI-CLT APR 3>2 MAY 3>2
WN BWI-CUN MAR 1.2>2 APR 1.2>2 MAY 1.3>2
WN BWI-DAY MAR 3>2
WN BWI-ECP MAY 2>1.1
WN BWI-EWR MAR 3>0.8 APR 3>0 MAY 3>0
WN BWI-FLL MAR 8>11 AP

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User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 8988 times:

WN BWI-FLL MAR 8>11 APR 8>11 MAY 8>11
WN BWI-FNT APR 0>1.6 MAY 0>3
WN BWI-LGA MAR 3>0 APR 3>0 MAY 3>0
WN BWI-MBJ MAR 1.3>1.6 APR 1.1>1.5 MAY 1.0>1.6
WN BWI-PUJ APR 0>0.6 MAY 0>1.0
WN BWI-PVD MAR 9>8 MAY 9>8
WN BWI-ROC MAY 3>2
WN BWI-RSW MAR 5>6 APR 4>5
WN BWI-SJU MAR 1.7>2 APR 1.9>2
WN CAK-DEN MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0
WN CAK-MDW MAR 0>1.9 APR 0>1.9 MAY 0>1.9
WN CAK-RSW MAR 1.0>3
WN CAK-TPA MAR 1.0>2
WN CLE-LAS MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0.5
WN CLT-HOU MAY 0>1.0
WN CLT-MCO MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0.6
WN CLT-MDW APR 0>1.1 MAY 0>2
WN CMH-MCO MAY 4>3
WN CMH-PHX MAR 1.7>1.0
WN CMH-RSW MAR 1.8>3 APR 1.2>1.9
WN DAL-HRL MAR 0>1.8 APR 0>1.9 MAY 0>1.9
WN DAL-MAF MAR 6>5 APR 6>5 MAY 6>5
WN DAL-MSY MAR 7>8 APR 7>8 MAY 7>8
WN DAY-DEN MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0
WN DAY-MCO MAR 1.0>3
WN DAY-TPA MAY 0.1>1.0
WN DCA-STL MAR 0>2 APR 0>2 MAY 0>2
WN DEN-CUN MAR 0>1.0 APR 0.5>1.0
WN DEN-EWR MAR 3>2 APR 3>1.9 MAY 3>1.9
WN DEN-LGA MAR 0>2 APR 0>2 MAY 0>2
WN DEN-MKE APR 3>1.9 MAY 3>1.8
WN DEN-SDF MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0
WN DEN-SFO MAR 4>3
WN DSM-MDW MAR 0>2 APR 0>2 MAY 0>2
WN DTW-LAS MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0
WN DTW-RSW MAR 0>1.0
WN ECP-HOU MAY 2>3
WN ECP-MCO MAR 2>0 APR 2>0 MAY 2>0
WN ECP-STL MAR 0>0.7 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0
WN EWR-HOU MAR 1.8>3 APR 1.9>3 MAY 1.9>3
WN EWR-MSY MAR 0>0.7 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0
WN EWR-PHX MAR 2>1.3 APR 2>1.0 MAY 2>1.0
WN EYW-MSY MAR 0>0.7 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0
WN FLL-MCO MAR 5>0 APR 5>0 MAY 5>0
WN FLL-MKE MAR 3>1.0
WN FLL-MSY MAR 2>3 APR 2>3 MAY 2>3
WN FLL-SJU MAR 0>2 APR 0>2 MAY 0.5>2.0
WN FLL-STL MAR 1.1>2.0
WN FLL-TPA MAR 7>5 APR 7>5 MAY 7>5
WN FNT-TPA MAY 0>1.0
WN GEG-PDX MAR 2.0>0 APR 2>0 MAY 2>0
WN HOU-HRL MAR 5>4 APR 5>4 MAY 5>4
WN HOU-IND MAR 0>1.8 APR 0>1.9 MAY 0>1.9
WN HOU-JAX MAR 1.0>1.7
WN HOU-MAF MAR 1.7>3 APR 1.7>3 MAY 1.7>3
WN HOU-MCI MAR 0>1.8 APR 0.3>1.8 MAY 1.0>1.7
WN HOU-MDW MAY 6>7
WN HOU-PHL APR 1.0>0.4 MAY 1.0>0
WN HOU-PIT MAY 0>1.0
WN HOU-RDU MAR 0>1.8 APR 0.3>1.8 MAY 1.0>1.7
WN HOU-SNA MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0
WN HRL-SAT MAR 1.7>1.0 APR 1.7>0.9 MAY 1.7>0.9
WN IAD-MDW MAR 6>5 APR 6>5 MAY 6>5
WN IND-MDW MAR 4>0 APR 4>0 MAY 4>0
WN IND-RSW APR 1.1>3 MAY 0.3>2
WN IND-TPA APR 4>3 MAY 4>3
WN ISP-PBI MAY 3>2
WN JAX-LAS MAR 1.0>0.7
WN LAS-MAF MAR 1.0>1.7 APR 1.0>1.7 MAY 1.0>1.7
WN LAS-MDW MAY 10>9
WN LAS-MKE MAR 4>3 APR 5>3 MAY 5>3
WN LAS-PVD MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0
WN LAS-SEA APR 5>4 MAY 5>4
WN LAS-SLC MAR 7>6 APR 7>6 MAY 7>6
WN LAS-SNA MAR 7>8 APR 7>8 MAY 7>8
WN LAX-MCI MAY 1.9>3
WN LAX-MDW MAR 7>5
WN LAX-MKE MAR 1.9>1.0 APR 1.9>1.0 MAY 1.9>1.0
WN LAX-STL MAR 1.7>1.1
WN LAX-TUS MAY 5>4
WN LGA-MDW APR 5>6 MAY 5>6
WN LGA-MKE MAR 5>4 APR 5>4 MAY 5>4
WN LGA-STL MAR 0>2 APR 0>2 MAY 0>2.0
WN LIT-STL MAR 1.8>1.0 APR 1.8>1.0 MAY 1.7>1.0
WN MCI-MSP MAR 0>1.7 APR 0>1.9 MAY 0>2
WN MCI-MSY MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0
WN MCI-OAK MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0.5
WN MCO-MBJ APR 1.0>0.8 MAY 1.0>0.7
WN MCO-MKE APR 4>5
WN MCO-ORF MAR 2.0>3
WN MCO-PHL MAR 8>7 APR 8>7 MAY 7>6
WN MCO-PHX MAR 1.6>1.1
WN MCO-ROC MAR 1.0>2 APR 1.0>1.9 MAY 1.0>1.9
WN MCO-RSW MAR 4>0 APR 4>0 MAY 4>0
WN MCO-SAT MAR 1.7>1.1 APR 2>1.1 MAY 2.0>1.0
WN MCO-SJU MAR 4>3 APR 4>3 MAY 4>3
WN MDW-CUN MAR 0>1.9 APR 0>2 MAY 0>2
WN MDW-OAK MAR 3>2
WN MDW-OKC MAR 0>1.8 APR 0>1.9 MAY 0>1.9
WN MDW-ORF MAR 1.8>1.0
WN MDW-ROC APR 0>1.1 MAY 0>2
WN MDW-SFO APR 3>2 MAY 3>2
WN MKE-MSP MAY 4>3
WN MKE-PHX MAR 4>3 APR 4>3 MAY 4>3
WN MKE-RSW MAR 3>4 APR 1.7>3 MAY 1.1>2
WN MKE-SFO APR 1.7>1.0 MAY 2>1.0
WN MSY-STL MAR 1.0>1.7 APR 1.0>1.7 MAY 1.0>1.7
WN MSY-TPA APR 3>4
WN OAK-ONT MAR 8>7 MAY 8>7
WN OAK-RNO MAR 3>2 APR 3>2 MAY 3>1.9
WN OAK-SEA APR 7>6 MAY 7>6
WN OAK-SNA MAR 7>8 APR 7>8 MAY 7>8
WN ORF-TPA APR 1.0>0.5 MAY 1.0>0.1
WN PBI-PIT MAR 0>1.0
WN PBI-PVD MAR 0>1.0
WN PBI-TPA MAR 4>0 APR 4>0 MAY 4>0
WN PDX-RNO MAY 3>2.0
WN PDX-SLC MAY 3>2.0
WN PHL-RDU MAR 3>0.5 APR 3>0 MAY 3>0
WN PHX-RDU MAR 1.0>0.7
WN PHX-SMF MAR 6>5 APR 6>5 MAY 6>5
WN PHX-SNA MAR 8>7 APR 8>7 MAY 8>7
WN PHX-TUL APR 2>1.4 MAY 2.0>1.0
WN PIT-RSW MAR 1.8>3
WN PIT-TPA APR 3>4 MAY 2.0>3
WN PVD-RSW APR 0.7>0.5
WN RNO-SLC MAR 1.0>0 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0
WN ROC-TPA MAR 1.0>1.7
WN RSW-STL MAR 1.0>3 APR 1.1>1.9 MAY 1.0>1.8
WN SAN-STL MAR 1.0>0.1 MAY 0>1.0
WN SAT-CUN MAR 0>0.5 APR 0>0.4 MAY 0.2>0.4
WN SAT-MEX MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0.3>1.0
WN SAT-STL MAR 0>1.8 APR 0>1.9 MAY 0>1.8
WN SEA-SLC MAY 3>2
WN SFO-SNA MAR 6>7 APR 6>7 MAY 6>7
WN SJC-SNA MAY 8>9
WN SJU-TPA MAR 1.9>1.0 APR 2>1.0 MAY 2>1.0
WN SMF-SNA MAR 6>7 APR 6>7 MAY 6>7
WN SNA-MEX MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0
WN SNA-SJD MAR 0>1.0 APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0
WN TPA-SJU MAR 1.9>1.0 APR 2>1.0 MAY 2>1.0


User currently offlineusairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3402 posts, RR: 7
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 8870 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
UA LAX-EWR MAR 7>6

Really?? During the supposed slower fall period I've seen F sold out on almost all flights 3-5 days in advance and not many more economy seats available. Unless they expect to put widebodies on the route.


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17442 posts, RR: 46
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 8840 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
LA SFO-LIM FEB 0.6>0.3 MAR 0.6>0.1 APR 0.6>0 MAY 0.6>0 JUN 0.6>0 JUL 0.5>0

What's going on here? This always seems to be misfiled; I imagine it's staying the same as per usual



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User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 8816 times:

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 2):
Really?? During the supposed slower fall period I've seen F sold out on almost all flights 3-5 days in advance and not many more economy seats available. Unless they expect to put widebodies on the route.

Still 737s and 757s.


User currently onlineLAXdude1023 From India, joined Sep 2006, 7566 posts, RR: 25
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 8795 times:

Surprised the new AA flights didnt apear.


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User currently offlineSCL767 From Chile, joined Feb 2006, 8801 posts, RR: 5
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 8778 times:
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Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
LA LAX-LIM APR 1.8>1.0 MAY 1.9>1.0
LA SFO-LIM FEB 0.6>0.3 MAR 0.6>0.1 APR 0.6>0 MAY 0.6>0 JUN 0.6>0 JUL 0.5>0

LAN operates LIM-LAX 13x weekly and LIM-SFO 4x weekly; no changes expected!


User currently offlineneveragain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 8539 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
US CLT-SEA APR 1.0>1.7 MAY 1.0>4 JUN 1.0>4 JUL 1.0>4
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
US PHL-SEA MAR 1.0>1.9 APR 1.0>2 MAY 1.0>4 JUN 1.0>4 JUL 1.0>4

Has either of these routes been 4x daily before during summer peak season? Looks like PHL is 4x A321 and CLT is 2x A321 / 2x A320. Altogether this must be a reasonably large capacity increase out of SEA for US as measured by both flights and seats this summer.

[Edited 2012-10-30 08:20:52]

User currently offlineFlyPeoria From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 434 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8307 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN DAY-TPA MAY 0.1>1.0

Could this mean Dayton-Tampa is going daily year-round as Southwest de-hubs Atlanta?


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 8234 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 3):
What's going on here? This always seems to be misfiled; I imagine it's staying the same as per usual

Take a week to know...or look at their website.

Quoting FlyPeoria (Reply 8):
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN DAY-TPA MAY 0.1>1.0

I wouldn't get my hopes up for SEP/OCT, but otherwise looks good.

Quoting neveragain (Reply 7):
Has either of these routes been 4x daily before during summer peak season?

I thought the same thing, but if I point that out somebody always says : "been that way for years, normal". Seems like a lot, though, for SEA.


User currently offlineFlyPIJets From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 900 posts, RR: 3
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8032 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN PHL-RDU MAR 3>0.5 APR 3>0 MAY 3>0

Really!?!

Looks like a number of WN flights are leaving PHL. Are theses seasonal? Permanent?

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
WN ATL-PHL MAY 5>4
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN HOU-PHL APR 1.0>0.4 MAY 1.0>0
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN MCO-PHL MAR 8>7 APR 8>7 MAY 7>6



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User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32732 posts, RR: 72
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 20 hours ago) and read 8014 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*G3 MCO-SDQ DEC 0>0.5 JAN 0>1.0 FEB 0>1.0 MAR 0>0.8 APR 0>0.7 MAY 0>0.7 JUN 0>0.7 JUL 0>1.0

MIASDQ, too. Both start 15 December 2012. GIG-SDQ-MIA and GRU-SDQ-MCO.



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User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7831 times:

Quoting FlyPIJets (Reply 10):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
WN ATL-PHL MAY 5>4
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN HOU-PHL APR 1.0>0.4 MAY 1.0>0
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN MCO-PHL MAR 8>7 APR 8>7 MAY 7>6

Nope, they have gotten crushed in PHL. Makes you worry about ATL.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7432 posts, RR: 17
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7781 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
**BA EWR-ORY DEC 0>1.7 JAN 0>1.7 FEB 0>1.7 MAR 0>1.7 APR 0>1.8 MAY 0>1.7 JUN 0>1.9 JUL 0>1.8
**BA JFK-ORY APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0

This is the Openskies flight.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
*DL JFK-VLC MAY 0.3>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0

And Spain's debt crisis bites another route off.

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
**DL MEM-AMS MAY 0.6>0 JUN 0.5>0 JUL 0.6>0

Ohohoho! This is a shocker. I wonder how their euro traffic will be handled now. Looks like they'll have to one-hop it to ATL. Sad to see MEM like this but this is deja vu. DL tried a hub previously with MEM and now bye-bye.



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User currently offlineusairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3402 posts, RR: 7
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7781 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 12):

Nope, they have gotten crushed in PHL. Makes you worry about ATL.

And this one...

Quoting enilria (Reply 1):
WN PHL-RDU MAR 3>0.5 APR 3>0 MAY 3>0

WN at PHL has to be down to around 20 flts a day from a peak of 65.


User currently onlineMaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 17442 posts, RR: 46
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7761 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 13):
I wonder how their euro traffic will be handled now.

M90 to ATL, as always 
Quoting enilria (Reply 12):

Nope, they have gotten crushed in PHL. Makes you worry about ATL.

   PHL and PIT. Whoda thunk US would send WN packing? If only they could recreate that in PHX.



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User currently offlineseatback From United States of America, joined Mar 2002, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7683 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 12):
Nope, they have gotten crushed in PHL. Makes you worry about ATL.

I think we're seeing the emergence of a new Southwest. Based on last quarter's lack-luster results, I don't think we'll see the aggressive WN as we once did.

Probably worth it's own thread but I think we're going to see WN's tolerance level sharply decrease in the future.

If ATL and PHL are being cut back, makes you wonder how DEN could ever be successful/profitable.


User currently offlineiowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4390 posts, RR: 6
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7611 times:
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Quoting usairways85 (Reply 14):
Quoting enilria (Reply 1):WN PHL-RDU MAR 3>0.5 APR 3>0 MAY 3>0
WN at PHL has to be down to around 20 flts a day from a peak of 65.

It's nuts how much PHL has been cut back. All that is left in May is the large WN stations and a few Florida flights. Exactly 20 daily (weekdays) on WN equipment plus 12 daily on FL equipment:

7x MDW
6x MCO (2x WN 4x FL)
4x ATL (FL)
3x DEN
2x BNA
2x STL
1x PHX
1x TPA
3x FLL (1x WN 2x FL)
1x LAS
1x PBI (FL)
1x RSW (FL)

So what all has been cut non-stop out of PHL now on Southwest? I might be missing some but I think these are most of them:

PIT
BOS
MHT
PVD
RDU
HOU
CMH
LAX
OAK
JAX
AUS
SAT

[Edited 2012-10-30 11:29:41]


Next flights: WN DSM-LAS-PHX, US PHX-SJD. Return: US SJD-PHX, WN PHX-MDW-DSM
User currently offlineyellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 6114 posts, RR: 2
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7525 times:

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
LR MIA-MGA DEC 0.1>0.2

The AVTA non-hubcuts in USA-Central America continue

Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
US CLT-BZE JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3
US CLT-CZM JUN 0.6>0.3 JUL 0.5>0.3

As these 2 destinations "shared" an aircraft...the weakness in one.....hurt the business case for keeping the levels on the other



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User currently offlineusairways85 From United States of America, joined Nov 2001, 3402 posts, RR: 7
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7517 times:

Quoting iowaman (Reply 17):
PIT
BOS
MHT
PVD
RDU
HOU
CMH
LAX
OAK
JAX
AUS
SAT
BDL
MSY (?)

...I think WN basically raised the white flag after the Northeast/New England cuts. It was these routes that saw huge O&D increases when WN came in with lower fares but in the end I guess US had continued to beat them to the point that it wasn't worth it anymore.

[Edited 2012-10-30 11:54:29]

User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7364 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 13):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
**BA EWR-ORY DEC 0>1.7 JAN 0>1.7 FEB 0>1.7 MAR 0>1.7 APR 0>1.8 MAY 0>1.7 JUN 0>1.9 JUL 0>1.8
**BA JFK-ORY APR 0>1.0 MAY 0>1.0 JUN 0>1.0 JUL 0>1.0

This is the Openskies flight.

What was the old code?

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 13):
Ohohoho! This is a shocker. I wonder how their euro traffic will be handled now. Looks like they'll have to one-hop it to ATL. Sad to see MEM like this but this is deja vu. DL tried a hub previously with MEM and now bye-bye.

Alas, poor Memphis...

Quoting usairways85 (Reply 14):
WN at PHL has to be down to around 20 flts a day from a peak of 65.
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 15):
PHL and PIT. Whoda thunk US would send WN packing? If only they could recreate that in PHX.
Quoting seatback (Reply 16):
I think we're seeing the emergence of a new Southwest. Based on last quarter's lack-luster results, I don't think we'll see the aggressive WN as we once did.
Quoting seatback (Reply 16):
If ATL and PHL are being cut back, makes you wonder how DEN could ever be successful/profitable.

I think DEN lost a boatload, but now it has gotten to a point of market control where it is profitable or close to it. DL is much strong in ATL than US in PHL or UA/F9 in DEN. I'm beginning to think WN may get crushed in ATL. We'll see. Worst merger ever...


User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3066 posts, RR: 7
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7331 times:

Quoting enilria (Reply 20):
Worst merger ever...

I'd vote for US and PSA. Or maybe QQ and AA.

Name a good merger?


User currently offlinemah4546 From Sweden, joined Jan 2001, 32732 posts, RR: 72
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7280 times:

Quoting yellowtail (Reply 18):
Quoting enilria (Thread starter):
LR MIA-MGA DEC 0.1>0.2

The AVTA non-hubcuts in USA-Central America continue

Huh? That's an increase, and it's just a switching around of TA* and LR* equipment. No cuts on MIAMGA.

And, quite simply, given the astronomical fares TACA commands on these routes to Miami, Los Angeles and elsewhere, they aren't going to be cut. SAL is actually the dump yield station for U.S. flights. It's MGA and SAP that rake in the money.



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User currently offlineHPRamper From United States of America, joined May 2005, 4057 posts, RR: 8
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7171 times:

Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 15):
PHL and PIT. Whoda thunk US would send WN packing? If only they could recreate that in PHX.

The markets in PIT and PHL are used to high ticket prices so they never really learned to appreciate lower fares. PHX is probably a lot more price-sensitive  
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 21):
Name a good merger?

US and HP worked out pretty well considering the state of the two pre-merger.
DL and NW also seems to have worked out well for the airline. Fate of MEM notwithstanding.
Jury is still out on UA and CO. After the kinks get worked out, that is an airline with an incredibly strong structure. All statements that it's a "failed merger" are quite premature.


User currently offlineenilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 7138 posts, RR: 13
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7131 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 21):
I'd vote for US and PSA. Or maybe QQ and AA.

It's worse because there are so many fewer airlines now. We can afford to have one demolished much less than in those days when there were a dozen.


25 yellowtail : My mistake, I read it as 1.0 (instead of 0.1) > 0.2
26 PITrules : I think they appreciate low ticket prices, they just don't appreciate (or understand) who it is that brought them low ticket prices.
27 PHX787 : openskies is a BA airline and operates under their certificate so I'm guessing the code would be BA
28 Post contains links EricR : Interestingly enough, over the past several years, WN has decreased flying out of PHX. In 2006, WN had 207 daily flights out of PHX. Today WN is down
29 mtnwest1979 : Delta-Western. SkyWest-SunAire .......................
30 flyguy89 : EC
31 UALFAson : This is what jumped out to me. EIGHT flights a day to a city (DCA) that's technically not even a hub?! That's almost every-other-hourly shuttle servi
32 Flytravel : At only 60-65 flights peak, WN never linked PHL to other markets like CLE, DTW and BUF nonstop and offered less desirable routing to these markets via
33 bobloblaw : Delta ought to be able to make DTW-AVL work. Maybe DL wants to flow all traffic over ATL instead. Yes it does. When WN took over FL, I was initially
34 AVLAirlineFreq : It's a seasonal reduction. It's back in the spring. With AVL-ATL still at 8x daily in January, with one flight on mainline, there's enough capacity t
35 PSU.DTW.SCE : For the month of January, yes. DTW-AVL is suspended for Jan-Feb, returns in March, and goes 2-3x daily over the summer months. AVL is very quiet in t
36 CIDFlyer : I dont understand the reasoning behind WN's "de-hubbing" of ATL. You would think they would keep what they have with a built in customer base of loya
37 steeler83 : US didn't exactly send WN "packing" at PIT. They were never that big in PIT to begin with. They did have plans of building a rather sizeable operatio
38 jamake1 : Delta-Northeast, Delta-Western, Delta-Northwest.
39 bobloblaw : WN's costs are too high to make an ATL hub work or to run the 717 fleet. I wouldn't be surprised to see WN in ATL to be limited to their current mark
40 PHX787 : I wouldn't call that a good merger persay, especially in comparison to the other two you posted. There's been serious lapses in C.S. since the merger
41 mariner : I've always been mildly surprised that Southwest isn't keeping ATL-BKG. If there has been chat about it I've missed it, so - any clues out there? mar
42 wn676 : It's a fairly recent change. Last summer PHL operated at 4x daily but CLT was only at 3x I believe. In years prior it was 3x and 2x, respectively.
43 panam330 : They "traded up" to a stronger ATL (with one fewer competing southeastern hub) and DTW, respectively, while shedding the comparative burdens of CVG a
44 Post contains links usflyguy : US sent WN packing in PIT? US abandoned PIT. November 2012, US averaged 42 departures a day to 9 destinations; that's a far cry from the 500+ daily f
45 RWA380 : US must be doing pretty poorly here in PDX to only offer token seasonal service to their 2 biggest hubs 1x daily each. On the other hand SEA seems to
46 neveragain : Not necessarily. Until a few years ago these routes were not served at all by US Airways; PDX was only connected to the former America West hubs in P
47 realsim : The new flights won't be bookable unitl Nov, 4, so they will probably upload them this Saturday. Spain doesn't have any debt crisis, at least not yet
48 AVLAirlineFreq : Purely speculation on my part, but I would bet that BKG will primarily see flights to and from the key feeder markets to Branson. Texas and the Midwe
49 mariner : I guess. My puzzle is that - whatever Branson thinks - ATL is only one of two routes from BKG (along with DEN) which, at least according to raw figur
50 HPRamper : On the PIT-PHL route in particular, US certainly sent WN packing. Of course, that may well be more due to the pressure US was putting on WN in PHL an
51 RWA380 : The CLT service has been going seasonally for several years now, and the PHL flight since they pulled down PIT. I remember flying from SEA a couple t
52 neveragain : When they cut back in DEN, I'll agree. I think, more than anything else, the changes in WN's network are related to putting so many eggs in this bask
53 neveragain : Only 60-65?! WN alone enplaned more passengers in PHL than all airlines enplaned in OMA, PVD, RNO, and OKC at its peak!
54 PSU.DTW.SCE : DL, which is larger in PDX, does not fly DTW-PDX year-round. Remember when there was the huge a.net uproar a few years ago when AA dropped ORD-PDX fo
55 enilria : Why the code change? Leveraging the BA brand? I always said this was going to be an awful merger. The biggest reason is simple math. Let's look at RI
56 MaverickM11 : How do WN's costs compare to F9?
57 enilria : Hard to compare that, but F9's are lower in most areas. I think what you are missing (if I understand your point) is that WN is now beating F9 on ave
58 MaverickM11 : I've been using F9's performance as a proxy for WN's performance at DEN. As goes F9, so goes WN, if not worse, since WN's fares and LF are just barel
59 FlyPNS1 : But if this is all true, why did WN launch routes like ORF-ATL and SDF-ATL? These markets are a bit bigger than RIC, but not by much. Again, why then
60 neveragain : Thank you for your detailed explanation.
61 mariner : Thanks for the try, but I'm still scratching my head. I thought (?) the code share was to happen next spring, at about the time ATL-BKG goes away. It
62 enilria : In DEN they are barely higher, they are 20% higher on connections through Denver and outstation originating passengers. That's very significant. Also
63 airliner371 : They have to be able to begin selling the flights with the codeshare. If SWA were to put BKG-ATL for sale they have to go months without a codeshare,
64 mariner : Based on the Q2 and Q3 profit numbers, obviously to Frontier's advantage. Well I think it is weird, but I've probably flogged this horse as far as it
65 steeler83 : That's true. Plus, it doesn't help any that many PIT travelers still labor under the delusion that US still operates a hub out of there... If they ha
66 PHX787 : IM guessing it was something along the lines of bureaucracy
67 Flytravel : I think WN didn't have DTW and CLE, not because of BWI's service by them to those markets, but to avoid a three carrier competition at PHL on PHL-DTW
68 FlyASAGuy2005 : DAL-NWA Name a few of the lapses. And what mergers can you thin k of that didn;t involve some sort of job loses? Or shrinkage of one of the "smaller"
69 Kcrwflyer : I don't know if its the worst, but its pretty bad. I'd agree with that, and the part about the 717 is especially unfortunate. All good points, and th
70 PHX787 : Lets see...serious sacrifices to the benefits of skymiles members, especially medallion members, The degradation of the quality of the flight attenda
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