dazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2577 posts, RR: 2 Reply 1, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10910 times:
There's loads of photos on the database from the Intrepid. I was in New York in June and spent a great morning exploring the ship and aircraft. The new shuttle exhibit was being built while I was their on the aft deck so I didn't get chance to see it, but it's open now. It was nice to see Concorde and the Growler submarine too. The aircraft are in pretty good shape with recent restoration and paiting of some of them.
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LGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1101 posts, RR: 22 Reply 3, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 23 hours ago) and read 10846 times:
All I heard was the dome that was built to protect and enclose the Shuttle Enterprise is bascially gone and the Shuttle has at the very least damage to it's vertical stabilizer but from the photo I saw it does NOT look serious. No word on the Concorde.
F9animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4736 posts, RR: 30 Reply 4, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 10732 times:
Quoting dazbo5 (Reply 1): There's loads of photos on the database from the Intrepid. I was in New York in June and spent a great morning exploring the ship and aircraft. The new shuttle exhibit was being built while I was their on the aft deck so I didn't get chance to see it, but it's open now. It was nice to see Concorde and the Growler submarine too. The aircraft are in pretty good shape with recent restoration and paiting of some of them.
Darren
ROFL!!! I am sorry! I almost spit my coffee across the computer screen after reading this! LOL!
Quoting LGA777 (Reply 3): All I heard was the dome that was built to protect and enclose the Shuttle Enterprise is bascially gone and the Shuttle has at the very least damage to it's vertical stabilizer but from the photo I saw it does NOT look serious. No word on the Concorde.
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LGA777
Do you know if they tied most of the aircraft down? I would think so. Hope the Concorde is okay! Good to hear the shuttle survived!
Nice. And NY was pushing so hard to get a 'flown' shuttle too. I didn't think such a priceless piece of history had any reason to be sitting out in the open like that, whether it was the Enterprise or any other shuttle. It's bad enough the Concorde is weathering away, but the shuttles? Should never have happened.
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concorde007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 10 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 10591 times:
Found this one on Gizmodo, not my photo, but what a shot. Cannot believe they put a priceless aviation icon in a vinyl bubble. What a disgrace.
CitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2235 posts, RR: 3 Reply 8, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 10482 times:
Quoting F9animal (Reply 4): ROFL!!! I am sorry! I almost spit my coffee across the computer screen after reading this! LOL!
Reminds me of the student pilot who was in the traffic pattern doing touch and go's. After completing a touch and go, the ATC tower asked the student pilot "What are your intentions?"
The student pilot replied "Student pilot 54 Papa, I intend to get my instrument, then commercial ratings, then my multi-engine."
The controller responded "Full stop or touch and go?"
jfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 2658 posts, RR: 5 Reply 10, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 10076 times:
Not for nothing...but what did you want them to do about the space shuttle in the face of the storm.
No trains, no airports, tunnels flooded. Lets get some priorities straight my friend
shufflemoomin From Denmark, joined Jun 2010, 432 posts, RR: 1 Reply 13, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9682 times:
This is actually a good point. I've been there a few times and apart from them being chocked, they don't seem to be secured in any way. With being open the elements, what's to stop strong winds catching them side on and blowing them right off the deck? There didn't seem to be enough space left inside to lower them down and I don't even know if the lift is still operable. Does anyone have more info about what they do in situations like this?
drerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 4906 posts, RR: 9 Reply 14, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 18 hours ago) and read 9670 times:
A damn shame...NYC got the shuttle which should have gone to Houston, damaged it on the barge ride to Intrepid, now the temporary inadequate tent they used for it damaged it. Way to go...
AA94 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 357 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9439 times:
Perhaps the vinyl bubble was appropriate for the occasional rain or minor windstorm, but it seems rather inadequate when you consider that Sandy was a very powerful, very resilient Category One hurricane that had been forecasted to do major damage.
You'd think that someone would have at least thought about these things ...
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Braniff722 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 127 posts, RR: 1 Reply 16, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 9411 times:
Quoting drerx7 (Reply 14): .
A damn shame...NYC got the shuttle which should have gone to Houston, damaged it on the barge ride to Intrepid, now the temporary inadequate tent they used for it damaged it. Way to go...
THIS!!!!!!!!!!
This shuttle deserves to be in Houston, period!!!!!!!!!
F9animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4736 posts, RR: 30 Reply 17, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8500 times:
Quoting CitationJet (Reply 8): Reminds me of the student pilot who was in the traffic pattern doing touch and go's. After completing a touch and go, the ATC tower asked the student pilot "What are your intentions?"
The student pilot replied "Student pilot 54 Papa, I intend to get my instrument, then commercial ratings, then my multi-engine."
The controller responded "Full stop or touch and go?"
LMAO! That is a good one.
I agree, it is sad to see the Space Shuttle in the open like that. I too think it should be inside, control climate, and proper taking care of.
bohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2409 posts, RR: 0 Reply 18, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7274 times:
Quoting F9animal (Reply 17): it is sad to see the Space Shuttle in the open like that. I too think it should be inside, control climate, and proper taking care of.
rfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 6150 posts, RR: 25 Reply 19, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7256 times:
Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 13): I've been there a few times and apart from them being chocked, they don't seem to be secured in any way. With being open the elements, what's to stop strong winds catching them side on and blowing them right off the deck? There
I just went through three pages from the general photos link above - every aircraft shown has three heavy cable tiedowns - one on each main gear. There are heavy cables over the skids of the helicopters without gear.
From the photos, it looks like all the planes are strongly secured against possible movement.
The cables are painted to not be obtrusive to the display, so they might not be as noticable as the chocks.
alberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2685 posts, RR: 0 Reply 20, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6972 times:
AirlineCritic From Finland, joined Mar 2009, 611 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 5524 times:
I don't care about the different cities that asked for these aircraft and spacecraft, but both the Concorde and the Shuttle deserve to be inside. IMO, of course.
a36001 From Australia, joined Sep 2012, 84 posts, RR: 0 Reply 22, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 4965 times:
Concord or the Enterprise should not be sitting on some ship on a river! If they must be grounded they should be under cover in a like a BUILDING! Thoughts too those doing it tough
In my humble opinion, it is not an ordinary ship, nor an ordinary river, it is in the middle of New York city and the ship is already a big tourist destination. Millions of people who visit the city from other states and the world, have a chance to see these two magnificent aircraft ( shuttle ) with ease.
I was on top of the ship a month ago, it is a shame to see the shuttle damaged but I don't think it would be better to move the shuttle at a place where it is harder to get to, but I rather prefer they build a better roof next time
Cubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 21242 posts, RR: 19 Reply 24, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 3621 times:
Quoting AirlineCritic (Reply 21): I don't care about the different cities that asked for these aircraft and spacecraft, but both the Concorde and the Shuttle deserve to be inside. IMO, of course.
I agree with the sentiment, but I don't know that every Concorde and every shuttle needs to be inside. I don't have a problem with the outdoor display of G-BOAB (LHR) or F-WTSB (TLS) because so many Concordes are well preserved indoors. Similarly, I don't have a problem with some of the shuttles being outside because Discovery is being preserved by the Smithsonian.
I can't decide whether I miss the tulip or the bowling shoe more
25 AA777223: Hear, hear! If they had sent the shuttle to Houston (which I realize is far more subject to hurricanes than New York), where it belongs, it would hav
26 cschleic: The plan is to build a permanent building for the shuttle on the carrier at some point in the future, when funds are raised. Hopefully sooner than lat
27 indcwby: If the new home for Enterprise wasn't ready yet, it should have never been brought to the Intrepid. It should have sat in a hanger. From my understan
28 dazbo5: It might be a vinyl bubble and I agree an icon like that should be in a proper hangar to preserve it, but it's more than just a tent that's around it
29 drerx7: The other issue is that how would this tent have stood up to winter snow? Remember Minneapolis and there imploding 'dome'.
30 indcwby: Remember the inflatable dome that fell during Cowboys training camp and paralyzed an assistant coach, while injuring others?
31 goosebayguy: I'm pretty sure the pier that Concorde sits on was flooded. Do hope they wash the salt water off the undercarriage.
32 drerx7: Even more of a reason not to house something as 'Precious' as a Space Shuttle in one.
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