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User currently offlineconcorde007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 10 posts, RR: 0
Posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 12054 times:
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Anyone have any photos or know the condition of the aircraft at the Intrepid Museum?

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User currently offlinedazbo5 From United Kingdom, joined Mar 2005, 2932 posts, RR: 2
Reply 1, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11940 times:

There's loads of photos on the database from the Intrepid. I was in New York in June and spent a great morning exploring the ship and aircraft. The new shuttle exhibit was being built while I was their on the aft deck so I didn't get chance to see it, but it's open now. It was nice to see Concorde and the Growler submarine too. The aircraft are in pretty good shape with recent restoration and paiting of some of them.

Darren



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User currently offlineFaddyPainter From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2010, 131 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11872 times:

I think OP meant in the context of recent events (i.e Sandy)

User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 3, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11876 times:

All I heard was the dome that was built to protect and enclose the Shuttle Enterprise is bascially gone and the Shuttle has at the very least damage to it's vertical stabilizer but from the photo I saw it does NOT look serious. No word on the Concorde.

Cheers

LGA777


User currently offlineF9animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5120 posts, RR: 28
Reply 4, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11762 times:

Quoting dazbo5 (Reply 1):
There's loads of photos on the database from the Intrepid. I was in New York in June and spent a great morning exploring the ship and aircraft. The new shuttle exhibit was being built while I was their on the aft deck so I didn't get chance to see it, but it's open now. It was nice to see Concorde and the Growler submarine too. The aircraft are in pretty good shape with recent restoration and paiting of some of them.

Darren

ROFL!!! I am sorry! I almost spit my coffee across the computer screen after reading this! LOL!

Quoting LGA777 (Reply 3):
All I heard was the dome that was built to protect and enclose the Shuttle Enterprise is bascially gone and the Shuttle has at the very least damage to it's vertical stabilizer but from the photo I saw it does NOT look serious. No word on the Concorde.

Cheers

LGA777

Do you know if they tied most of the aircraft down? I would think so. Hope the Concorde is okay! Good to hear the shuttle survived!



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User currently offlineflood From United States of America, joined Feb 2009, 1383 posts, RR: 1
Reply 5, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11729 times:

Enterprise and her damaged stabilizer:

http://d.pr/i/xgb8
http://d.pr/i/P7gx

Hope Concorde is unscathed, not fully visible in the pics and haven't come across any others.


User currently onlineHAL From United States of America, joined Jan 2002, 2572 posts, RR: 53
Reply 6, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11662 times:

Quoting flood (Reply 5):
http://d.pr/i/xgb8
http://d.pr/i/P7gx

Nice. And NY was pushing so hard to get a 'flown' shuttle too. I didn't think such a priceless piece of history had any reason to be sitting out in the open like that, whether it was the Enterprise or any other shuttle. It's bad enough the Concorde is weathering away, but the shuttles? Should never have happened.

HAL



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User currently offlineconcorde007 From United States of America, joined Mar 2010, 10 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 11621 times:
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Found this one on Gizmodo, not my photo, but what a shot. Cannot believe they put a priceless aviation icon in a vinyl bubble. What a disgrace.


User currently offlineCitationJet From United States of America, joined Mar 2003, 2468 posts, RR: 3
Reply 8, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 11512 times:

Quoting F9animal (Reply 4):
ROFL!!! I am sorry! I almost spit my coffee across the computer screen after reading this! LOL!

Reminds me of the student pilot who was in the traffic pattern doing touch and go's. After completing a touch and go, the ATC tower asked the student pilot "What are your intentions?"
The student pilot replied "Student pilot 54 Papa, I intend to get my instrument, then commercial ratings, then my multi-engine."
The controller responded "Full stop or touch and go?"



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User currently offlineSSTeve From United States of America, joined Dec 2011, 733 posts, RR: 2
Reply 9, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 16 hours ago) and read 11367 times:

Enterprise just gained a little more actual history.  

User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3621 posts, RR: 6
Reply 10, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11106 times:

Not for nothing...but what did you want them to do about the space shuttle in the face of the storm.

No trains, no airports, tunnels flooded. Lets get some priorities straight my friend


User currently offlineatct From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 2345 posts, RR: 38
Reply 11, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 11002 times:

Welcome to living on the water...

Its a shame to see her placed in basically what is open storage.

atct



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User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3839 posts, RR: 11
Reply 12, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 14 hours ago) and read 10940 times:

Quoting atct (Reply 11):
Its a shame to see her placed in basically what is open storage.

Open storage in a very humid and salty environment with large temperature deltas and the occasional severe storm.

Shame...



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User currently offlineshufflemoomin From Denmark, joined Jun 2010, 480 posts, RR: 2
Reply 13, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10712 times:

This is actually a good point. I've been there a few times and apart from them being chocked, they don't seem to be secured in any way. With being open the elements, what's to stop strong winds catching them side on and blowing them right off the deck? There didn't seem to be enough space left inside to lower them down and I don't even know if the lift is still operable. Does anyone have more info about what they do in situations like this?

User currently offlinedrerx7 From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5209 posts, RR: 8
Reply 14, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10700 times:

A damn shame...NYC got the shuttle which should have gone to Houston, damaged it on the barge ride to Intrepid, now the temporary inadequate tent they used for it damaged it. Way to go...


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User currently offlineAA94 From United States of America, joined Aug 2011, 605 posts, RR: 2
Reply 15, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10469 times:

Perhaps the vinyl bubble was appropriate for the occasional rain or minor windstorm, but it seems rather inadequate when you consider that Sandy was a very powerful, very resilient Category One hurricane that had been forecasted to do major damage.

You'd think that someone would have at least thought about these things ...



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User currently offlineBraniff722 From United States of America, joined Nov 2008, 152 posts, RR: 1
Reply 16, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 12 hours ago) and read 10441 times:

Quoting drerx7 (Reply 14):
.
A damn shame...NYC got the shuttle which should have gone to Houston, damaged it on the barge ride to Intrepid, now the temporary inadequate tent they used for it damaged it. Way to go...


THIS!!!!!!!!!!

This shuttle deserves to be in Houston, period!!!!!!!!!



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User currently offlineF9animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5120 posts, RR: 28
Reply 17, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 10 hours ago) and read 9530 times:

Quoting CitationJet (Reply 8):
Reminds me of the student pilot who was in the traffic pattern doing touch and go's. After completing a touch and go, the ATC tower asked the student pilot "What are your intentions?"
The student pilot replied "Student pilot 54 Papa, I intend to get my instrument, then commercial ratings, then my multi-engine."
The controller responded "Full stop or touch and go?"

LMAO! That is a good one.

I agree, it is sad to see the Space Shuttle in the open like that. I too think it should be inside, control climate, and proper taking care of.



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User currently offlinebohica From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 2748 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8304 times:

Quoting F9animal (Reply 17):
it is sad to see the Space Shuttle in the open like that. I too think it should be inside, control climate, and proper taking care of.

+1 but let's get the Concorde inside also.


User currently offlinerfields5421 From United States of America, joined Jul 2007, 7607 posts, RR: 32
Reply 19, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 8286 times:

Quoting shufflemoomin (Reply 13):
I've been there a few times and apart from them being chocked, they don't seem to be secured in any way. With being open the elements, what's to stop strong winds catching them side on and blowing them right off the deck? There

I just went through three pages from the general photos link above - every aircraft shown has three heavy cable tiedowns - one on each main gear. There are heavy cables over the skids of the helicopters without gear.

From the photos, it looks like all the planes are strongly secured against possible movement.

The cables are painted to not be obtrusive to the display, so they might not be as noticable as the chocks.

[Edited 2012-10-30 18:45:50]

User currently offlinealberchico From United States of America, joined Sep 2004, 2951 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 8002 times:

Quoting Braniff722 (Reply 16):
THIS!!!!!!!!!!

This shuttle deserves to be in Houston, period!!!!!!!!!

Let's not start with that crap now ok. Houston submitted a lousy bid and blew their chances of securing a shuttle.

This blog written by a NASA employee explains that:

http://waynehale.wordpress.com/2011/...why-houston-did-not-get-a-shuttle/



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User currently offlineAirlineCritic From Finland, joined Mar 2009, 736 posts, RR: 1
Reply 21, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 6554 times:

I don't care about the different cities that asked for these aircraft and spacecraft, but both the Concorde and the Shuttle deserve to be inside. IMO, of course.

User currently offlinea36001 From Australia, joined Sep 2012, 195 posts, RR: 0
Reply 22, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 4 days 1 hour ago) and read 5995 times:

Concord or the Enterprise should not be sitting on some ship on a river! If they must be grounded they should be under cover in a like a BUILDING! Thoughts too those doing it tough  

User currently offlineLLA001 From Turkey, joined May 2005, 106 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4816 times:

Quoting a36001 (Reply 22):

In my humble opinion, it is not an ordinary ship, nor an ordinary river, it is in the middle of New York city and the ship is already a big tourist destination. Millions of people who visit the city from other states and the world, have a chance to see these two magnificent aircraft ( shuttle ) with ease.

I was on top of the ship a month ago, it is a shame to see the shuttle damaged but I don't think it would be better to move the shuttle at a place where it is harder to get to, but I rather prefer they build a better roof next time  


User currently offlineCubsrule From United States of America, joined May 2004, 23294 posts, RR: 20
Reply 24, posted (2 years 1 month 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 4651 times:

Quoting AirlineCritic (Reply 21):
I don't care about the different cities that asked for these aircraft and spacecraft, but both the Concorde and the Shuttle deserve to be inside. IMO, of course.

I agree with the sentiment, but I don't know that every Concorde and every shuttle needs to be inside. I don't have a problem with the outdoor display of G-BOAB (LHR) or F-WTSB (TLS) because so many Concordes are well preserved indoors. Similarly, I don't have a problem with some of the shuttles being outside because Discovery is being preserved by the Smithsonian.



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25 AA777223 : Hear, hear! If they had sent the shuttle to Houston (which I realize is far more subject to hurricanes than New York), where it belongs, it would hav
26 cschleic : The plan is to build a permanent building for the shuttle on the carrier at some point in the future, when funds are raised. Hopefully sooner than lat
27 indcwby : If the new home for Enterprise wasn't ready yet, it should have never been brought to the Intrepid. It should have sat in a hanger. From my understan
28 Post contains images dazbo5 : It might be a vinyl bubble and I agree an icon like that should be in a proper hangar to preserve it, but it's more than just a tent that's around it
29 drerx7 : The other issue is that how would this tent have stood up to winter snow? Remember Minneapolis and there imploding 'dome'.
30 indcwby : Remember the inflatable dome that fell during Cowboys training camp and paralyzed an assistant coach, while injuring others?
31 goosebayguy : I'm pretty sure the pier that Concorde sits on was flooded. Do hope they wash the salt water off the undercarriage.
32 drerx7 : Even more of a reason not to house something as 'Precious' as a Space Shuttle in one.
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