hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2882 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 15177 times:
Welcome Guys..
In celebration of Jamaica's 50th Independence Celebrations, we will highlight the three important events of 2012...
Firstly, congrats to the people of Jamaica in celebration of their 50th Anniversary..
Secondly, During the London Summer Games, The Jamaican Team led by The Bolt and Beast strengthened their domination in the Track Sprint Events..
Thirdly, Fly Jamaica Airways..Jamaica's newest international airline, should take to the skies by the end of the year..
Fly Jamaica Airways is a partnership between chief executive officer (CEO), Guyana-born Paul Ronald Reece and three Jamaican shareholders including Chief Operating Officer (COO) Captain Lloyd Tai and manager of in-flight services, Christine Steele. Reece is also the owner of Wings Aviation Inc, based in Guyana.
The airline plans to service JFK,YYZ and GEO via it's home base in KIN..
The airline has already acquired its own Boeing 757 aircraft that will comfortably seat 12 first-class and 186 economy-class passengers.
They are on a mission to restore pride to our nation and fill the void left by Air Jamaica..
The company's mission is:
To guarantee the highest level of
safety, reliability, comfort and
service to all our customers.
To encourage equality and provide a
positive work experience for our employees.
To provide profitability for our
shareholders through relationships built on transparency and integrity.
Our commitment to these objectives will enable us to become the airline of
Choice and restore pride to our nation
Fly Jamaica recently received it's A.O.C from the JCAA and has submitted their application to the DOT for approval.
Let us all welcome the new piece of Jamaica that flies and hope with our continued support, the carrier will be able to grow new markets from Jamaica..
Updates and other info can be found in the old thread..
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2882 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 15187 times:
Jetblue's CEO Dave Barger was recipient of the Hummingbird Award at a recent event in New York..In receiving the award, he mentioned,"We will continue to have anywhere from six to eight flights a day to the island. The airline is focused on continued growth within the Caribbean and has steadily increased flights to Jamaica as support continues to grow amongst Jamaican nationals and tourists, who wish to enjoy all that the island has to offer," he said.
Barger also noted that the airline's most profitable and fastest-growing route was that of travel between the United States and Jamaica since its inaugural flight in 2009.
Our very own legend, was recently in Rio doing promotions for the 2016 Summer Games...While in Rio, he received the keys to the city from the Mayor...I hope his visit will be a boost to the Brazilians to visit Jamaica..
This is a comment about Fly Jamaica's application from DOT's, John Gilmore..
Fly Jamaica Airways Limited d/b/a FlyJamaica
OST-2012-0171 - Exemption and Foreign Air Carrier Permit - Jamaica-US Scheduled Passenger
October 25, 2012
Comments of John Gilmore
I would make the observation that the applicant has not in its application provided the flight schedule information required by 14 CFR §211.20 (c) (2). This omission makes it difficult to evaluate whether its proposed service is primarily focused on the Jamaica-US market rather than on the Guyana-US market via Jamaica. I note that Fly Jamaica’s AOC limits it to the Jamaica-New York and Jamaica-Guyana routes and that its AOC proving flights under Jamaican CAA supervision included the Jamaica-Guyana route.
While Fly Jamaica, as a Jamaican controlled company, would be ineligible for Guyana-US route authority under the Bermuda I and II ASAs without an waiver of the homeland ownership requirement, I would argue that such an exemption if sought should be granted to encourage such private sectors initiatives. Notwithstanding, any focus on connecting traffic ex Guyana would be no different than the traffic carried by Emirates over Dubai, BA over London, Lufthansa over Frankfurt or Air France/KLM over Paris and Amsterdam.
The Department applies a ‘six month zero revenue’ capital requirement in license applications from US based start up airlines: that the airline have sufficient cash on hand or committed at start up to operate its proposed schedule for six months with no revenues.
It would be useful for prospective start up applicants for foreign air carrier permits, as is the case with Fly Jamaica, to know whether that requirement also is applicable them, whether the local CAA certification of financial fitness as part of an IASA Category 1 AOC process is sufficient or whether the requirement is somewhere between the two.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2315 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (6 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 15078 times:
Great photos/theme for the 84 th Jamaican thread. What a summer it was !!
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 1): Barger also noted that the airline's most profitable and fastest-growing route was that of travel between the United States and Jamaica since its inaugural flight in 2009.
Not me. B6's growth/popularity in Jamaica is nothing short of phenomenal. Amazing accomplishment in such a relatively short period of time. Mr. Barger stated that the carrier will continue to have anywhere between 6 and 8 flights a day to Jamaica. By my calculations, they will have up to 9 flights on some days during the peak periods. JFK-KIN ( 2x ), FLL-KIN ( 2x ), JFK-MBJ ( 2x ), MCO-MBJ ( 1x ) and BOS-MBJ ( 2x on Saturdays ). Pretty impressive schedules if you ask me. Still have a feeling they may eventually end up operating FLL-MBJ with the E190s in the future. I will again be flying with them come November 19 th on MBJ-MCO-MBJ for my annual Florida sojourn. Looking forward to it. Won't be doing a Trip Report this time around though, as it will be too similar to the past ones. Will share any interesting spotting photos I may happen to snap none the less. Want to visit Detroit and/or Toronto next year so will do detailed TR on that trip.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 1): Our very own legend, was recently in Rio doing promotions for the 2016 Summer Games...While in Rio, he received the keys to the city from the Mayor...I hope his visit will be a boost to the Brazilians to visit Jamaica..
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2882 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14958 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 2): Not me. B6's growth/popularity in Jamaica is nothing short of phenomenal. Amazing accomplishment in such a relatively short period of time. Mr. Barger stated that the carrier will continue to have anywhere between 6 and 8 flights a day to Jamaica. By my calculations, they will have up to 9 flights on some days during the peak periods. JFK-KIN ( 2x ), FLL-KIN ( 2x ), JFK-MBJ ( 2x ), MCO-MBJ ( 1x ) and BOS-MBJ ( 2x on Saturdays ). Pretty impressive schedules if you ask me. Still have a feeling they may eventually end up operating FLL-MBJ with the E190s in the future. I will again be flying with them come November 19 th on MBJ-MCO-MBJ for my annual Florida sojourn. Looking forward to it. Won't be doing a Trip Report this time around though, as it will be too similar to the past ones. Will share any interesting spotting photos I may happen to snap none the less. Want to visit Detroit and/or Toronto next year so will do detailed TR on that trip.
I was told MBJ-FLL is a possibility, but its a very thin route..
I hope BOS-MBJ will operate on a year round basis..
Have fun in Orlando...
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 2): reat photos/theme for the 84 th Jamaican thread. What a summer it was !!
In the last thread it was briefly mentioned that CM will increase services to MBJ...There is a full story which speaks about the new increases and how it will open the doors to more Latin American markets via the PTY hub..
%u201CThese additional flight frequencies between Montego Bay and Panama City allow us to offer our customers a more complete service,%u201D said Jose Montero, planning director for Copa Airlines, in a written release. %u201CThe added departures will give our passengers more travel options to more Latin American destinations through our Hub of the Americas at Tocumen International Airport in Panama.%u201D
In addition to the expansion into Montego Bay, Copa Airlines offers regular service from the Hub of the Americas in Panama City into Jamaica%u2019s Norman Manley International Airport in Kingston on Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. The Kingston service departs PTY at 12:04 p.m. and arrives at KIN at 1:54 p.m. The return flight departs KIN at 6:05 p.m. and arrives at PTY at 8:00 p.m.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2882 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (6 months 2 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 14771 times:
Quoting guyanam (Reply 4): With all this excpansion by B6 and others, where is the market space for FJ?
Big market out there..B6 and others are expanding at BW's expense..
Another big win for Jamaica..
Jamaica has been named the 'Favourite Worldwide Destination' by readers of British Travel Awards’ ‘Check In’ magazine.
The island took the top spot from more than 70 other destinations in the magazine’s new Readers’ Choice Awards, announced last weekend.
The Readers’ Choice Awards are voted for exclusively by readers of Check In, the online interactive magazine of the British Travel Awards.
Regional Director of the Jamaica Tourist Board for the UK and Northern Europe, Elizabeth Fox, said the award was especially significant as it was the only award voted for by the public.
beeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1693 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (6 months 1 week 6 days 11 hours ago) and read 14769 times:
Quoting guyanam (Reply 4): With all this excpansion by B6 and others, where is the market space for FJ?
I am one of those people who was saddened to see the demise of our beloved Air Jamaica. To me, it was the only carrier to take me to and from this island of ours, and was indeed the little piece of Jamaica that flies, as the slogan said. When they merged with Caribbean Airlines, I still clung to the hope that we were still in the mix, and I flew with them a few times.
Now I'm hearing that the Air Jamaica logo may be taken off the aircraft, leaving us with nothing. That was the last straw for me. Last week, for the very first time in my life, when I went to New York I flew Jet Blue. I was impressed.
Still, there's a new kid on the block, Fly Jamaica, which up to now only has one aircraft. I cannot wait for them to get started and to also acquire more aircraft. Once again, the Jamaican brand will take to the skies and make us proud.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2315 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 months 1 week 1 hour ago) and read 14770 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 9): '' Last week, for the very first time in my life, when I went to New York I flew Jet Blue. I was impressed. "
Everyone I know who flew B6 for the first time was very impressed with their services, and is hooked. They must be doing something right.
Some great news just announced..........Starting January 1st UN will inaugurate nonstop charter flights between Moscow and Montego Bay using B777 metal.................
'' KINGSTON, Jamaica – Jamaica is now positioned to tap into the Russian tourism market after arrangements were finalised for the introduction of direct flights from Moscow to Montego Bay.
Minister of Tourism and Entertainment, Dr. Wykeham McNeill, has announced that on January 1, next year, Russian airline Transaero will begin nonstop service from Moscow to Montego Bay using a Boeing 777 with 300 seats. ''
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2315 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (6 months 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 14773 times:
In addition to the new Moscow - Montego Bay flights coming on stream January 2013, it is quite noteworthy also that the previously launched Paris - Dominican Republic - Montego Bay charters by Look Voyages will now operate as a Paris - Montego Bay nonstop. Also TUI will operate B787 flights between ARN and MBJ come winter 2013........
" The news comes as the country makes inroad into Scandinavian frontier, which includes Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland.
Following discussions with TUI they have confirmed flights out of Scandinavia for winter 2013-2014, from Stockholm Sweden to Montego Bay using their new Dreamliner 787 said the minister. "
Congrats to the hard working Tourism Ministry for securing these additional flights from several non traditional markets to Jamaica. Lets hope this can be replicated with new charters from points in South America ( e.g. GRU, EZE etc ). Also good to know that the B787 will be in the '' Bay '' next year........
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2882 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 months 6 days 9 hours ago) and read 14770 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 12): Some great news just announced..........Starting January 1st UN will inaugurate nonstop charter flights between Moscow and Montego Bay using B777 metal.................
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 12): Finally. It is about time. Good luck to this new gateway and hopefully it will be successful and become a regular service.
Finally, after years of waiting, Jamaica has finally landed a nonstop Russian service...I am anticipating success with this route and with the upcoming World Games in Russia next summer, Jamaica will receive more publicity..
Kudos to The JTB for securing this lucrative deal..
I imagine their B777 will use maximum thrust to get airborne from MBJ..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 13): In addition to the new Moscow - Montego Bay flights coming on stream January 2013, it is quite noteworthy also that the previously launched Paris - Dominican Republic - Montego Bay charters by Look Voyages will now operate as a Paris - Montego Bay nonstop. Also TUI will operate B787 flights between ARN and MBJ come winter 2013........
" The news comes as the country makes inroad into Scandinavian frontier, which includes Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland.
Following discussions with TUI they have confirmed flights out of Scandinavia for winter 2013-2014, from Stockholm Sweden to Montego Bay using their new Dreamliner 787 said the minister. "
I had no idea Corsair's A330 had such a high density configuration..
Nice to see MBJ receiving a B787 service..The JTB has once again impressed me with entering this new market..With these new markets, Jamaica's tourism industry is poised for consistent growth..
Condor Airlines will provide connections via FRA in co operation with TUI Nordic..
Quote: Also, Thomas Cook Nordic, has started a Jamaican programme commencing next month, with the Condor flight via Frankfurt.
"It has sold well and they have now indicated that they will also offer service from Stockholm on a fortnightly basis with their own aircraft, an Airbus 3330 for winter 2013 to 2014, which will further open up the Scandinavian market," McNeill said.
Jamaica is now reporting success with their Latin American exploits..The new service from CM has contributed to a 71% increase in stopover arrivals..
They are now looking to increase arrivals from Chile, Ecuador, Brazil and Argentina using the PTY hub..
However,securing a nonstop Brazil service is still a work in progress..
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2315 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 months 5 days 22 hours ago) and read 14770 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 14): I imagine their B777 will use maximum thrust to get airborne from MBJ..
A very long flight indeed. Good to also have the B777 back in MBJ again, after BA's ( re ) termination of their LGW-MBJ 777 service. Who knows, probably '' Speedbird '' will be back down there again someday.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 14): I had no idea Corsair's A330 had such a high density configuration..
I think the CDG-MBJ flights are operated by SE using their A332s or A333s ( or a combination of both ? ) Those aircraft are also densely configured.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 14): Jamaica is now reporting success with their Latin American exploits..The new service from CM has contributed to a 71% increase in stopover arrivals..
They are now looking to increase arrivals from Chile, Ecuador, Brazil and Argentina using the PTY hub..
However,securing a nonstop Brazil service is still a work in progress..
Really impressive stuff. All in all, exciting times are on the horizon for MBJ with the various new flights from non traditional markets.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2882 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (5 months 3 weeks 6 days 10 hours ago) and read 14600 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 15): A very long flight indeed. Good to also have the B777 back in MBJ again, after BA's ( re ) termination of their LGW-MBJ 777 service. Who knows, probably '' Speedbird '' will be back down there again someday.
Ditto...
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 15): I think the CDG-MBJ flights are operated by SE using their A332s or A333s ( or a combination of both ? ) Those aircraft are also densely configured.
Hoping to see their B744 next winter into MBJ..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 15): Really impressive stuff. All in all, exciting times are on the horizon for MBJ with the various new flights from non traditional markets.
Also, DE is now operating a twice weekly FRA-MBJ service..The Sun flight that was recently shared with VRA is now nonstop in both directions..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 16): As promised, here are a few photos I took at MBJ on my way to Orlando on Monday afternoon................
Nice pics..
Hopefully, some will be able to capture the new European traffic coming into MBJ..
yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5159 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (5 months 3 weeks 5 days 10 hours ago) and read 14486 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 16): DL is making a killing on their ATL-MBJ route it would appear. All B752 metals.
Not necessarily. Sometimes DL and UA will use their 75s when there are yield pressures on the routes. That is why you see them to place like CUN, MCO and HNL...it has a the right mix of capacity vs seat cost.
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
WS is now operating twice daily YYZ-MBJ services...This is done in an order to facilitate the new Thomas Cook charter contract..Connections are now available from all major Canadian cities via YYZ..
Order 2012-11-38
OST-2012-0171 - Exemption and Foreign Air Carrier Permit - Jamaica-US Scheduled Passenger
Issued and Served November 30, 2012
Order Granting Exemption and To Show Cause
By application filed October 11, 2012 (as amended October 15, 2012), Fly Jamaica Airways Limited, a foreign air carrier of Jamaica, requests an exemption under 49 U.S.C. §40109, and a foreign air carrier permit under 49 U.S.C. §41301, to engage in: 1) scheduled foreign air transportation of persons and property from a point or points behind Jamaica, via Jamaica and intermediate points, to a point or points in the United States and beyond; 2) charter services pursuant to Part 212 of the Department’s regulations.
On October 25, 2012, Mr. John Gilmore filed an answer in support of Fly Jamaica’s request. In addition to expressing his support for Fly Jamaica’s application, Mr. Gilmore asserts that Caribbean Airlines Ltd. , a foreign air carrier serving the Jamaica-U.S. market, is subsidized by the Government of Trinidad and Tobago, and suggests that we monitor the activities of CAL to assure that it does not engage in predatory pricing in competing with Fly Jamaica. Mr. Gilmore also states that the application of Fly Jamaica does not contain flight schedule information that would allow the Department to assess the level of sixth-freedom traffic that the carrier would transport; and questions whether certain fitness information regarding capital requirements, that is required of U.S. carrier applicants, is also required of foreign carrier applicants.
Also
Summary
By this order we (1) grant the application of the referenced foreign air carrier for an exemption
under 49 U.S.C. §40109, subject to conditions;
1
and (2) tentatively find that it is in the public
interest to grant the applicant the foreign air carrier permit attached as Appendix B to this order.
Background
On August 23, 2005, the Department issued a Notice, in Docket DOT-OST-2005-22228,
announcing several steps designed to streamline our regulatory procedures for licensing U.S. and
foreign air carriers. Among other things, the Notice stated that:
Assuming, based on the record and on the public interest/public convenience and
necessity elements germane to our licensing decisions, that we were in a position to act
favorably, we would proceed to issue a single order (1) granting the exemption request
for whatever duration we would normally have imposed, or until certificate/permit
authority becomes effective, whichever is shorter, and (2) tentatively deciding (i.e.,
show-cause) to award a corresponding certificate (or permit), again for the standard
duration we would normally have imposed (such as, in the case of certificates, five
years for limited-entry markets, indefinite for open-entry markets, and in the case of
permits, five years for comity and reciprocity regimes, indefinite for agreement
regimes).
LimaNiner From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 391 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (5 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 13971 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 22): I am certain many travellers from the west coast would welcome the return of a non-stop link to MBJ.
SFO-MBJ, pretty please!! (A guy can dream, can't he?)
For SFO-based pax, connecting at LAX is at least as much of a hassle as going via DFW, IAH, ATL, or MIA. In fact, LAX is a pretty crappy airport, to be honest.
25 TC957: I'll be visiting Jamaica on my holiday next week and might fancy a couple of visits to MBJ for a bit of spotting. What's the do's and dont's of spotti
26 airjamaica: JM operated the MBJ-SFO route for a ( very ) short period in the past. Late '80's/early '90's era. What I can't recall is if the flight was operated
27 airjamaica: After a 4 months delay, the repaving of runway 07/25 will commence in January..............well lets hope it actually does '' REHABILITATION work on t
28 A388: Interesting news for me too should I go to MBJ for aircraft spotting. Isn't there a beach at rwy 07 and is photography not even possible with this ar
29 airjamaica: Think there is now fencing in that area and they have signs posted as it being restricted, but not certain if people still hang out there any at all,
30 airjamaica: Some interesting news here. Despite very slim growth in visitor arrivals from traditional markets such as the USA and Canada, and a decline in arrival
31 A388: That would mean that spotting in MBJ isn't worth it because the sun is in front of you. The only option is photography from within the terminal itsel
32 airjamaica: Couple months ago there were talks that they were planning to construct restaurant facilities at both KIN and MBJ that would allow for great views of
33 hummingbird: Good news coming from the tourism front.. The first flight arriving from Russia is showing a full load...I can assure you, the high loads will continu
34 hummingbird: According to The Jamaica Gleaner, Fly Jamaica will fly before Christmas.. He said the company has now started to prepare flight schedules and is await
35 JM017: Thanks for the post. I was starting to lose hope.
36 yankeejuliet: Fly Jamaica is going to be a great success , as preparation for this venture was carried out in the correct manner. This is unlike what others think i
37 hummingbird: I agree, " the writing is on the wall".. Take a look at this story.. Asked if the company was making money from its Air Jamaica investment, Moonan re
38 airjamaica: Saw a television interview with Tourism Minister Wykeham McNeill yesterday and he noted that the second flight is also fully booked, so quite a promi
39 A388: I agree that Jamaica apparently is a different environment for BW to compete in as they have much more competition but we must also not forget that a
40 yellowtail: TA had looked at serving KIN a couple of times (remember they also served KIN many many years ago) from various points in C. America. At one point ev
41 guyanam: BW lacks what JM had, and that was a very loyal VFR market, which hung in there through thick aand thin, even when the fares werent the most competit
42 MaverickM11: It's really just the South Florida effect--FLL/MIA LFs to KIN/MBJ have been abysmal for years, especially for carriers that don't have a hub in South
43 yellowtail: You know this not jsut Jamaica.....AA is beginning to struggle out of MIA on quite a few routes to The Caribbean and Central America. UA, DL, US are
44 airjamaica: And many are seemingly jumping on B6. But why would B6 be so eager to start FLL-KIN if that market was so abysmal for years, even when two other carr
45 hummingbird: Great news indeed..Good to see the return of the B777 to MBJ.. But since the merger, the airline has yet to realize any real profit..What I find funn
46 A388: That's exactly what I'm saying, don't expect any airline to make a profit after a merger with another airline. I know Jamaica is a different ballgame
47 guyanam: The nonstop POS MCO flight releases seats for the KIN MCO. Dont know whther those seats are used or not, but they are available. BW does NOT have mor
48 hummingbird: More competition to YYZ next summer..Air Canada has announced their new LLC division, called Rogue..KIN will be one of their destinations starting Jul
49 guyanam: Actually GoJ is being silent on BWs noncompliance with the original agreement. They were supposed to service 6 routes out of Mbj/KIN. They service on
50 airjamaica: Based on what was previously disclosed at the height of the '' agreement '' the GOJ will have no further financial obligations as it pertains to same
51 hummingbird: I believe AC will still maintain their corporate clients on the route, but this move as you mentioned was expected as WS's entry further lowered the
52 airjamaica: Guess AC had no choice but to react, though I don't think this is the first time they have attempted to create a LCC subsidiary to compete with the l
53 A388: Thanks for the replies guys, all I'm saying is to give BW time. You are all saying that they are bleeding money and then I don't understand that they
54 airjamaica: Club MoBay officially opened at Sangster International Airport recently.................. Luxury lounges open at Sangster International Airport '' Jam
55 hummingbird: MERRY CHRISTMAS EVERYONE. With their rapid expansions plans, I expect them in MBJ by early 2014.. Got this pic of CM B738 in MBJ..I was told the fligh
56 airjamaica: Happy New Year everyone................... CM's PTY-MBJ service is gaining popularity with South American travelers wishing to visit Jamaica with the
57 hummingbird: Happy New Year..2013 will be an exciting year in our aviation industry.. Would love to see a daily service by Dec 2013.. I am curious to find out whe
58 A388: Hello hummingbird. Happy New Year to you, your families and to all the other members here and their families too I'm looking forward to an exciting y
59 hummingbird: Happy New Year to you too and all the best for you and your family in 2013.. 2013 will be a year of aviation growth, the US domestic market has seen
60 yankeejuliet: FlyJam is reportedly negotiating the possible lease of two aircraft from ILFC for summer 2013 operations. Lets hope airbus types are included.
61 hummingbird: Good news, I bet it will be a B757 or B767.. Cpt Tai mentioned that aircraft two will join the fleet shortly.. New start date is mid Jan... Can't wai
62 A388: Thanks hummingbird. It welcome FlyJam to Curacao and I still hope they will introduce a more colorful livery than what they have now. What about a gre
63 hummingbird: Would love to see a colorful livery, but I believe, they will try to adapt a cost effective livery.. ------------------------------------------------
64 yellowtail: No.....they would chase the business pax first......that means KIN.
65 airjamaica: I think this new charter route is going to be a popular one for UN. Lets hope so atleast, as many factors can affect this over time. Lets hope that t
66 airjamaica: Some people are questioning the relevance of the JM '' tail '' that is located at the entrance to the Norman Manley International Airport in Kingston.
67 airjamaica: WN has announced 4x weekly service between MDW and MBJ beginning April 14th 2013. These flights will be operated by FL for the time being.............
68 hummingbird: JAMAICA WELCOMED its first Finnish cruise line Tuesday morning at the Montego Bay Cruise Ship Pier. The ship, Kristina Katarina, is also the first to
69 hummingbird: Late last year we mentioned, The parent company of Sunwing Airlines, purchased a resort property in Jamaica.. http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20120
70 airjamaica: Still like seeing those ' birds ' . My one and only experience on them was back in 2006 on AA between MIA and MCO. This reader had a very interesting
71 hummingbird: NK has reloaded FLL-KIN for S13.. NK FLL-KIN APR 0>0.1 MAY 0.7>0.5 JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.5 AUG 1.0>0.6 FLL-MBJ will be reduced for S13.
72 airjamaica: The battle continues on the Jamaica - FLL routes....................... Great for MBJ. The 787 has been making the news quite frequently nowadays tho
73 hummingbird: Guys, FlyJamaica will officially launch services later today at a special press conference .. Fly Jamaica Airways, a newcomer to the airline industry
74 airjamaica: According to this report the first flight will operate on January 25th 2013 - KIN-JFK. The initial schedule is 4x weekly..... '' Operations are set t
76 airjamaica: Seem Fly Jamaica's January 25th inaugural KIN-JFK flight will be a '' charter '' operation of sorts, as their website seems no where near ready.....t
77 hummingbird: The airline has encountered problems, that has disrupted their inaugural service.. Taken from their website.. To our invaluable customers, well wishe
78 JM017: I wondered....as far as i could tell, their website was never up, so it was unclear how exactly there were going to book passengers for travel. To be
79 airjamaica: Personally I feel they need to ease up on the inaugural announcement dates until they have fully ironed out all their issues, including a fully opera
80 yellowtail: Running an airline is not easy. Starting one up is even harder. Fly Jamaica is finding that out right. Even a well of money (think Kingfisher and Red
81 yankeejuliet: Fly Jamaica needs to advertise their services with proper contact numbers and Email address..This launch seems to be shrouded in secrecy. One public a
83 hummingbird: More info regarding FlyJam's delay.. In other news I heard they shot their soon to be released media commercial this week.. http://jamaica-gleaner.com
84 A388: This is very bad on the part of FlyJam and can make one wonder how competent the personnel of this airline is. I hope they can still correct these ve
85 hummingbird: Cpt Tai explained the reason behind their delay.. Delays in the completion of arrangements with US Customs and Border patrol, as well as a change of
86 A388: But that is just part of their problem. Their booking system is also way off as is their telephone number. How can you launch an airline like this? A
87 airjamaica: Not bad for B6 on this popular route for the period. ** I understand that the new control tower construction is on in full earnest at Norman Manley I
88 hummingbird: There are other issues, that is out of the airline's control....The booking system is a minor issue... As mentioned, as soon as JFK gives the go ahea
89 A388: A booking system that doesn't work is a minor issue and we also have travel agents not knowing how to book with FlyJam. Yes, you're right, "minor" is
90 hummingbird: You cant sell tickets, without having the necessary slot times to operate your flights... Better not to sell until the issues with JFK are resolved..
91 A388: So wait, you want to start selling tickets when the JFK issue is cleared up. So once that issue is solved, you can start flying immediately. No wait,
92 hummingbird: Today is definitely news day.. I don't believe the article was worded properly, but Tourism Director, John Lynch is now urging United Airlines to oper
94 airjamaica: Very poor journalism indeed with the article not being worded accurately. But the long and short of the story is that Mr. Lynch would like UA to oper
95 yankeejuliet: Thank you jesus!!! Hope this is real. }
96 A388: I didn't know about this commercial, very funny indeed LOL A388
97 airjamaica: Great rainy weather shot. As I have said in the past, these conditions really make for some excellent photo opportunities, particularly with the refl
98 A388: You are absolutely right, rainy conditions (and snowy conditions) can result in very nice photos See my snowy versions here: You don't see snow but y
99 hummingbird: The only possible route I see is KIN-EWR, but UA will have to invest in heavy marketing amongst the local media and Travel Agencies..KIN-EWR will als
100 beeweel15: Please this is nonsense JFK will make room for anyone coming there especially T4 which is the only terminal that has 24 hour customs. They need to ge
101 A388: Yes, hummingbird is trying to blame everything on JFK while that is the least of their problems. FlyJamaica just started badly and I wonder how long
102 guyanam: Most likely not even as long as Ezjet did, given how competitive the KIN market is. These guys missed the bus. Shortly after AJ was clsoed down and B
103 hummingbird: The new piece of Jamaica is all set to fly..FlyJamaica's website is now up and running for bookings..The inaugural flight is now set for Feb 14..Let u
104 jm079: Credit must be given to these people for there efforts and I sincerely wish them success. They know that they have the overwhelming support of Jamaic
105 yellowtail: Another week another Jamaican Airline. You guys are sprouting airlines faster than I can keep track of IAH-KIN could work.....UA has enough feed from
106 yankeejuliet: Jamaica needs an airline like JQA to recapture the its share of the vfr and tourist market which the successors of JM dropped due to their inability
107 yellowtail: I love how everyone thinks they can run an airline.......while very few of us can.
108 guyanam: All the routes that you mention, other than LAX, have already been covered by US carriers. Where is the need for JQA when many have doubts even about
109 airjamaica: There is a sizable Jamaican community in Houston but at the same time it sure isn't like your typical JFK-KIN, YYZ-KIN or a FLL-KIN market. If IAH-KI
110 yellowtail: Surely enough to fill a 73G daily. If it can work for POS, SJU, MBJ and GCM...it can work for KIN.
111 A388: Heey guys, I saw the Jamaican Volkswagen commercial this past weekend on tv during a commercial break of the Super Bowl game!!! Hilarious to see it on
112 Speedbird2263: A little rough around the edges but I suppose they're waiting until they drum up something of a following before rolling out a proper website. The we
113 westindian425: Best part is: "You're from Minnesota, right?" "Yes, I! De land ah TEN TOUSAND LAKES!!!" I laugh so hard every time I see that part! As for UA service
114 guyanam: Remember that POS is an oil and gas destination so gets lots of travel connected to that. MBJ and GCM are leisure markets. SJU attracts many types of
115 airjamaica: Ditto. The snow reflection does create quite an effect on those aircraft and make for great photos indeed. I am more inclined to think that any route
116 hummingbird: Bolt "to di Worl" in Dubai.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qvFBJWqqOxM Despite the service and technical hiccups, there is still a strong local suppo
117 yankeejuliet: When my new aviation book is launched, we will seperate the boys from the men.
118 A388: Oops my bad, I don't speak Jamaican so I misunderstood what the man said. Thanks for the correction (and a bit embarassing understanding for me in th
119 airjamaica: 99% of the time that flight originated and terminated in MBJ. Rarely it ever even continued on to KIN and when it did, it was primarily for aircraft
121 hummingbird: Time for FlyJam to get their act together and look at serving GEO-JFK and YYZ nonstop.. --------------------------------------------------------------
122 JM017: Fly Jamaica's first flight was today: http://jamaica-gleaner.com/latest/article.php?id=42859
123 A388: Hey guys, In you're interested, Insel Air has recently also sent their Fokker 50's to KIN. This is done if the load factor is sufficient to warrant a
124 hummingbird: A new day has dawn in The Jamaican Aviation Industry.. Am happy to see them soar and the carrier now has the support of the Jamaican community at hom
125 beeweel15: Anyone has a color pic to the black & white with the DC9 and crew Congrats to Fly Jamaica Airways glad to see them fly. Think I will try and star
126 Caymanair: Its good to see local investment in aviation. I'm happy to see theyre finally off the ground and wish them luck!
127 airjamaica: Here is a promo video link I stumbled on............... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sBBDWMM-Aiw Cool music there............... Nice photos. Now i
128 jm079: Fly- Jamaica will be using the "OJ" codes going forward and Toronto will be there next destination. Air Canada has added additional capacity to there
129 airjamaica: So now there will be 4 carriers competing on the YYZ-KIN route. Will be interesting to see the eventual outcome. Did AC usually operate this extra ro
130 jm079: Not that I can recall as in all cases there is usually a switch in equipment to a larger plane but in this instances we are seeing an additional flig
131 JM017: Someone in a post above noted that they planned to acquire another 757 later this year. I am not sure if this means by summer.
132 airjamaica: Myself took note of WS's afternoon YYZ-MBJ flight which allows for added options/connections. Their growth in Jamaica is nothing short of impressive.
133 jm079: WS had four flights today out of YYZ to MBJ. I also see that Guyana is asking OJ to post a bond and submit a financial statement before approval is c
134 A388: Guys, Just saw the NBA All Star Weekend in Houston and Usain Bolt was one of the players to play in the celebrity game East vs. West. I didn't know Us
135 hummingbird: Yes..During the days when they operated their B742 service, an extra B767 service was added.. Impressive.. I saw where they used the B736 on one of t
136 airjamaica: Speaking about Guyana, is there that much of a market between KIN and GEO, particularly for a B752 ? Not bad at all. Just imagine if MEM-MBJ and CVG-
137 guyanam: I suggest that FJ not bother with Guyana for now. The recent demis of EZjet has made Guyanese very wary of another carrier. FJ needs to prove itself
138 guyanam: Most of the traffic between GY and JA are either business or govt/internationalk agency execs. BW dominatesd this group, even thougn it means a chang
139 airjamaica: Seem March 2014 is the targeted date by which the Norman Manley International Airport ( NMIA ) will be privatized... '' This development will include
140 airjamaica: Here are more details on JAS's suspension............ '' OPERATORS of Jamaica Air Shuttle are putting together a consortium of investors to purchase
141 hummingbird: I hope so too.. I hope they will find local investors to fund their entity....JAS has the potential to connect Ian Flemming with both International A
142 airjamaica: That would be great. Those photographs look great indeed. I think I am already getting used to those uniforms. Staff looking really sharp and profess
143 speedbird2263: + 1 on the Uniforms! Love it! Exudes color, warmth, tropical, Jamaica....and its classy...not as busy as the past JM uniforms but rather swanky. -226
144 hummingbird: I agree..True representation of "Brand Jamaica"... I assume a mistake was made with this latest OAG filing.. Is BW leaving FLL-MBJ market ?? BW FLL-K
146 airjamaica: Agree 100%. Fly Jamaica suffered a windshield crack 15 minutes into their KIN-JFK flight today and had to return to the airport....... '' Fly Jamaica
147 hummingbird: I saw where passengers were transferred to BW's flights.. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Fl
148 airjamaica: The original plan was to accommodate them on B6. Guess their A320s were packed to the gills........... Great to see this new service by DE into MBJ.
149 hummingbird: Not so good news for BW's Jamaica operations.. Am surprised fuel was mentioned as a factor, given their subsidy by the GOTT.. Caribbean Airlines' oper
150 guyanam: Yep. BW will now only run 3X on the YYZ KIN and seem to be struggling on the FLL KIN. I predict that BW will effectively shut down its KIN, base, ope
151 airjamaica: I don't know about anyone else, but I for one isn't the least surprised by these reports. This was all predicted from day one, though there were some
152 beeweel15: Well I agree with what you said BW did do a lot of things wrong in this merger between JM/BW. I myself said early in this BW was treading a very shar
153 hummingbird: Am curious to see how they will recover from this loss...Any further expansions from FlyJam will be a further hit to their market share.. I agree.. A
154 airjamaica: Fly Jamaica's in-flight meal service and 2 free carry on, it would seem, is getting rave reviews. Interesting. At first I thought KL was planning sea
155 speedbird2263: I can tell you or rather I should say give it a high probability that within the next 12 or so months CAL will not exist in KIN as it does today. We
156 yellowtail: I hear a rumor that Dl is restarting KIN-ATL Dec 19th...
157 JM017: Yes, it seems to be bookable in the system. Am buying tickets on DL from BWI tomorrow via ATL.
158 speedbird2263: About time! I handled those flights they had summer of 2010 and they were full both ways every day. The yields must not have been in their favor as t
159 airjamaica: That would be great. Lets see how long they will keep it this time around.......DL is famous for starting/stopping/restarting the aforementioned sect
160 speedbird2263: I remember having do to KIN-MIA-ATL on AA to pick up an aircraft in Georgia back in summer 2011. Quite a few folks on that early morning AA continued
161 hummingbird: Nice to see the return of DL into KIN.. If we can only get a restart the EWR-KIN services .. Got a pic of the new control tower in KIN.. Also, one of
162 speedbird2263: Now that's a proper Tower! I wonder if NMIA Operations will also be relocated to the new tower, as I know they currently occupy a space at the base o
163 airjamaica: New tower looking good. Some people were expecting it to be higher but I am certain its '' high enough ". Hopefully construction of the new one at MB
164 A388: Nice, we had the new livery in CUR as the first island destination in the region. See my below photos: Nice ATC Tower as well. Cheers, A388
165 hummingbird: Can't wait to see them on their airbus fleet.. Well guys, here it is , another round of reductions from BW in KIN... Honestly, I expect a late Autumn
166 hummingbird: FlyJamaica's IATA code is FJM.. http://flightaware.com/live/flight/FJM120 ----------------------------------------------------------------------------
168 hummingbird: Interesting to see if it will be a total closure or a divestment... DOT Stats-Sept 2012 KIN BW FLL-KIN 7854-4089 52% KIN-FLL 12474-3961 32% JFK-KIN 1
169 airjamaica: These stories never cease to amaze/amuse me............. Might as well. It is great to see DL back on the ATL-KIN route with a daily flight. Hopefull
170 acws777: just saw in the caribbean thread that Caribbean airlines is BANKRUPT!!!!. its crazy how true members predictions are correct. you guys have a very goo
171 yankeejuliet: This happened sooner than expected. Main contributions are purchase of 17 year old wide bodies from LAN, hit with restrictions while FAA conclude the
172 yankeejuliet: Fly Jamaica will add second aircraft in April and third by year end.
173 JM017: Yeah, they were spot on with their predictions. I optimistically hoped it would or could work. But with the moves they made, I lost all faith and fou
174 acws777: any idea if it's another 757 or 737 for smaller markets
175 hummingbird: Later this month BW's FLL-KIN will be reduced to a daily service.. FLL-KIN BW 36 dep 16:15 arr16:55 KIN-FLL BW 31 dep05:45 arr 08:25 B6 will retain t
176 yellowtail: Lets be serious guys....how many of you actually think FLY JAMAICA will actually be around in 2 years? I dabble in the airline business so have acces
177 yankeejuliet: The second a/c will be a Boeing 757-200 ER, the third has not yet been identified but should be a 150 seater.
178 JM017: So, what do you suggest? Sitting back and relying on AA, AC, B6, etc? FlyJa at least do not seem to be repeating the mistakes of old.[Edited 2013-04-
179 speedbird2263: Their LF's thus far, from what I've been told by folks close enough to see that sort of stuff, are pretty healthy. How long it will last is anyone's
180 yellowtail: All I am saying is that according to my educated calculations that as they are now, they will never make a profit. Make that of it what you will. And
181 JM017: Yes, the airline industry is fraught with risk. And unfortunately decisions are sometimes made that are not wise business decisions. This seems to be
182 guyanam: Is there demand for all these planes? Yes I agree that we can pretty much assume that BW will close down their KIN base, as running just 2 flights da
183 hummingbird: Am not able to post a link, but I heard BW has replanted 9Y-JMF in a livery similar to that of 9Y-SXM.. Also, staff cuts are coming in KIN..
184 speedbird2263: It's the beginning of the end of CAL in KIN as we know it and have all speculated herein. T&T's pockets may have been deeper than that of AJAG &a
185 hummingbird: Here is a copy of their current and new schedule..Eff Apr 30 all flights to US will operate daily, while YYZ will operate 3 weekly..
186 guyanam: So basically BW is saying goodbye to its KIN bsse. Not even an increase to cover the busy summer period, this giving other carriers ample time to fil
187 jm079: They have also announced that YYZ is there next gateway in NA. Is Delta's re-entry into KIN from ATL a mere ploy or are they really serious about the
188 hummingbird: I expect them to announce staff cuts for the new May schedule.. DOT Stats Sept12-MBJ BW FLL-MBJ 9240-3222 35% MBJ-FLL 4620-2845 62% JFK-MBJ 5236-3785
189 airjamaica: Lol. Looking forward to their KIN expansion. Put it this way, we " naysayers " were right this time around. I really hope so ! Eager to see it. Hopef
190 LimaMike: What about NAS? Is this route being axed or will it remain?
191 JM017: I haven't seen a pic of the new livery. How does it improve on the current one? Too true.
192 hummingbird: Agree.. Now, with the demise of BW in KIN..We now have to look forward to FlyJam to grow the KIN market... It was previously mentioned, they are look
193 A388: Has Caribbean Airlines now decided to withdraw from KIN? I wasn't aware of this...? A388
194 guyanam: It is obvious that they are maintaining a holding position while they decide what to do. And that might be more about the Govt of T&T chatting wi
195 JM017: Good. I had been thinking that the 757 was too much aircraft for some of these routes. A smaller plane gives them some flexibility and is a better fi
196 airjamaica: They would eventually have to acquire smaller aircraft as the B757s wouldn't be ideal for some of their planned target markets. I like the sound of t
197 LimaMike: I think what is being alluded to is the planned reduction in service on the key gateways KIN-JFK/FLL to only 1x daily and http://jamaica-gleaner.com/
198 speedbird2263: Ok now I'd love to see them step up the marketing significantly. -2263
199 guyanam: Yes. Its only die hard Jamaicans who know of them. The ones still angry over the end of Air J. Do not know if your average Jamaican knows enough abou
200 hummingbird: Latest OAg changes.. B6 FLL-KIN SEP 2>1.6 OCT 2>1.5 NOV 2.0>1.6 B6 JFK-MBJ SEP 1.3>1.1 B6 JFK-KIN SEP 1.3>1.1 DL ATL-MBJ AUG 3>4 NK
201 airjamaica: Those passengers will happily opt for B6's early morning FLL-KIN daily flights. Yes they definitely need to make themselves more visible where market
202 speedbird2263: I certainly hope that would be the case. Air Jamaica was big on marketing and one evidence of that is, if you ask any typical North Eastern American
203 hummingbird: I can guarantee, when they start YYZ, it will be a slow death for BW on the route.. Agree..When they first launched, they mentioned they are going af
204 guyanam: 1. Jamaicans do not like BW. And the Trini operators of BW do not understand Jamaicans. 2. BWs losses on its Jamaica operations have to be covered by
205 A388: If Caribbean Airlines decides to drop their KIN operation, are there routes that they will keep? I remember someone saying in this forum that the rout
206 JM017: Oh, I am sure they will keep the flights to the Eastern Caribbean. I think they do well on those routes. But the JM routes are a different story.
207 guyanam: If BW closes down their KIN base they will keep their daily milk run from POS via the various islands. Thats a high yield route as more than 50% of t
208 speedbird2263: I remember having to pay USD$500 for KIN-ANU back in late 2009. Yields should continue to be good, the route if I remember correctly was KIN-ANU-BGI-
209 airjamaica: Very true. No doubts about that. They were extremely aggressive where that aspect of their operations were concerned. With the rest being loyal to B6
210 A388: Thanks for the Caribbean Airlines KIN-Caribbean flights. How many flights are those per day? Cheers, A388
211 hummingbird: Last I heard they are going back to daily services.. Things have taken a turn for the worst.. This week, BW is expected to trim half of their flight
212 guyanam: Well as many suspected on this thread BWs KIN base bwill be axed. Saying publicly that this is a possibility, at a time when the airline is seeking s
213 A388: Returning aircraft isn't that easy as it depends on what the leasing contract says. If Caribbean Airlines still has one year or more to be fulfilled,
214 hummingbird: Talk about drawing first blood.. The GoJ has responded to BW's plan to reduce flights to KIN... A commendable move on their part.. Dr. Omar Davis, Ja
215 guyanam: Well apparently they are having difficulties in paying their leases on time, so its likely that the lessors might work some thing out. Makes no sense
216 airjamaica: In other welcome news, seem MP Ronald Thwaites was exceptionally pleased with his experience on Fly Jamaica recently........ '' THE EDITOR, Sir: I tr
217 trintocan: Well this sounds very serious indeed. Is this the end of JM as part of BW? I think though perhaps we should go over some of the issues which have pass
218 guyanam: Given the history of Jamaicans attitudes to the Eastern Caribbean in general, and Trinidad& Tobago in particular, it was a very high risk move fo
219 hummingbird: Looks like there are other plans to maintain both brands.. http://www.jamaicaobserver.com/news/...behind-reducing-flights-to-Jamaica Commendable inde
220 LimaMike: Well given their historical experiences with start-up carriers you can appreciate the caution being exercised by the Guyanese authorities. The recent
221 guyanam: FlyJam will also endure hassles from the Guyana Govt as its Guyanese owner is of the "wrong" race. EZjet came after numerous other fly by night opera
222 airjamaica: Wasn't there talks recently that they had intentions to do away with the " JM brand " and instead use theirs only ? There seem to be some level of un
223 JM017: This is the issue. If they offer flights to/from GEO through Kingston, that will probably not work. I can understand skepticism in Guyana with yet an
224 hummingbird: I hope they pursue growth in KIN before heading to GEO...Looks like the Guyanese officials are now courting PY to serve the JFK-GEO route.. Am stunne
225 speedbird2263: Seems they've been reading our posts here on A.net with regards to the dire need for marketing. From the pictures it seems they are taking it to the
226 airjamaica: Very smart move on their part if you ask me. Reminds me of JM and the tight relationship they had with the ICI's back in the day.
227 airjamaica: Direct air links and visa issues are two problematic factors affecting travel for Chinese visitors wishing to get to Jamaica..... '' THE ISSUES of vis
228 A388: Nice to see FlyJam doing this, hope it works for them. Now they only need to work on their livery instead of the now practically all-white livery. JM
229 airjamaica: Agree 100%. JM ( with the two main liveries they sported in the past ) was bold and daring enough to use colours that were quite " distant " from the
230 A388: Yes, a nice start would be to have the Jamaican flag on the tail depicted in waves (just as the former DL tail logo). Add a few black, yellow and gre
231 airjamaica: Very interesting concept. Eagerly anticipating what they will eventually bring to the table. 1.6 million air seats has been secured for the up coming
232 airjamaica: And the comedy train continues.................................... '' Caribbean Airlines assumed responsibility for Air Jamaica flights as well as the
233 guyanam: Think that it is time that the BW experiment at KIN comes to an end. BW was forced to cut flights as their loads were mediocre to FLL, FJ is making i
234 airjamaica: B6 captured that market. With Fly Jamaica's plan to start YYZ-KIN as well, things are certainly going to get even more interesting as time goes by.
235 hummingbird: Cant wait to see the proposed two weekly service for W13.. I was told their sole B752 will be out for C-check..In the interim,SY will operate the KIN
236 airjamaica: That is much welcome news. Another interesting editorial re Fly Jamaica Airways................... '' What we humbly suggest is that those among us w
237 hummingbird: New thread is up.. Canal To Harbour..Jamaican Thread 46 (by hummingbird May 14 2013 in Civil Aviation)
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