hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15272 times:
Welcome Guys..
In celebration of Jamaica's 50th Independence Celebrations, we will highlight the three important events of 2012...
Firstly, congrats to the people of Jamaica in celebration of their 50th Anniversary..
Secondly, During the London Summer Games, The Jamaican Team led by The Bolt and Beast strengthened their domination in the Track Sprint Events..
Thirdly, Fly Jamaica Airways..Jamaica's newest international airline, should take to the skies by the end of the year..
Fly Jamaica Airways is a partnership between chief executive officer (CEO), Guyana-born Paul Ronald Reece and three Jamaican shareholders including Chief Operating Officer (COO) Captain Lloyd Tai and manager of in-flight services, Christine Steele. Reece is also the owner of Wings Aviation Inc, based in Guyana.
The airline plans to service JFK,YYZ and GEO via it's home base in KIN..
The airline has already acquired its own Boeing 757 aircraft that will comfortably seat 12 first-class and 186 economy-class passengers.
They are on a mission to restore pride to our nation and fill the void left by Air Jamaica..
The company's mission is:
To guarantee the highest level of
safety, reliability, comfort and
service to all our customers.
To encourage equality and provide a
positive work experience for our employees.
To provide profitability for our
shareholders through relationships built on transparency and integrity.
Our commitment to these objectives will enable us to become the airline of
Choice and restore pride to our nation
Fly Jamaica recently received it's A.O.C from the JCAA and has submitted their application to the DOT for approval.
Let us all welcome the new piece of Jamaica that flies and hope with our continued support, the carrier will be able to grow new markets from Jamaica..
Updates and other info can be found in the old thread..
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 months 3 weeks 6 days 13 hours ago) and read 15282 times:
Jetblue's CEO Dave Barger was recipient of the Hummingbird Award at a recent event in New York..In receiving the award, he mentioned,"We will continue to have anywhere from six to eight flights a day to the island. The airline is focused on continued growth within the Caribbean and has steadily increased flights to Jamaica as support continues to grow amongst Jamaican nationals and tourists, who wish to enjoy all that the island has to offer," he said.
Barger also noted that the airline's most profitable and fastest-growing route was that of travel between the United States and Jamaica since its inaugural flight in 2009.
Our very own legend, was recently in Rio doing promotions for the 2016 Summer Games...While in Rio, he received the keys to the city from the Mayor...I hope his visit will be a boost to the Brazilians to visit Jamaica..
This is a comment about Fly Jamaica's application from DOT's, John Gilmore..
Fly Jamaica Airways Limited d/b/a FlyJamaica
OST-2012-0171 - Exemption and Foreign Air Carrier Permit - Jamaica-US Scheduled Passenger
October 25, 2012
Comments of John Gilmore
I would make the observation that the applicant has not in its application provided the flight schedule information required by 14 CFR §211.20 (c) (2). This omission makes it difficult to evaluate whether its proposed service is primarily focused on the Jamaica-US market rather than on the Guyana-US market via Jamaica. I note that Fly Jamaica’s AOC limits it to the Jamaica-New York and Jamaica-Guyana routes and that its AOC proving flights under Jamaican CAA supervision included the Jamaica-Guyana route.
While Fly Jamaica, as a Jamaican controlled company, would be ineligible for Guyana-US route authority under the Bermuda I and II ASAs without an waiver of the homeland ownership requirement, I would argue that such an exemption if sought should be granted to encourage such private sectors initiatives. Notwithstanding, any focus on connecting traffic ex Guyana would be no different than the traffic carried by Emirates over Dubai, BA over London, Lufthansa over Frankfurt or Air France/KLM over Paris and Amsterdam.
The Department applies a ‘six month zero revenue’ capital requirement in license applications from US based start up airlines: that the airline have sufficient cash on hand or committed at start up to operate its proposed schedule for six months with no revenues.
It would be useful for prospective start up applicants for foreign air carrier permits, as is the case with Fly Jamaica, to know whether that requirement also is applicable them, whether the local CAA certification of financial fitness as part of an IASA Category 1 AOC process is sufficient or whether the requirement is somewhere between the two.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 2, posted (6 months 3 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 15173 times:
Great photos/theme for the 84 th Jamaican thread. What a summer it was !!
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 1): Barger also noted that the airline's most profitable and fastest-growing route was that of travel between the United States and Jamaica since its inaugural flight in 2009.
Not me. B6's growth/popularity in Jamaica is nothing short of phenomenal. Amazing accomplishment in such a relatively short period of time. Mr. Barger stated that the carrier will continue to have anywhere between 6 and 8 flights a day to Jamaica. By my calculations, they will have up to 9 flights on some days during the peak periods. JFK-KIN ( 2x ), FLL-KIN ( 2x ), JFK-MBJ ( 2x ), MCO-MBJ ( 1x ) and BOS-MBJ ( 2x on Saturdays ). Pretty impressive schedules if you ask me. Still have a feeling they may eventually end up operating FLL-MBJ with the E190s in the future. I will again be flying with them come November 19 th on MBJ-MCO-MBJ for my annual Florida sojourn. Looking forward to it. Won't be doing a Trip Report this time around though, as it will be too similar to the past ones. Will share any interesting spotting photos I may happen to snap none the less. Want to visit Detroit and/or Toronto next year so will do detailed TR on that trip.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 1): Our very own legend, was recently in Rio doing promotions for the 2016 Summer Games...While in Rio, he received the keys to the city from the Mayor...I hope his visit will be a boost to the Brazilians to visit Jamaica..
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 15053 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 2): Not me. B6's growth/popularity in Jamaica is nothing short of phenomenal. Amazing accomplishment in such a relatively short period of time. Mr. Barger stated that the carrier will continue to have anywhere between 6 and 8 flights a day to Jamaica. By my calculations, they will have up to 9 flights on some days during the peak periods. JFK-KIN ( 2x ), FLL-KIN ( 2x ), JFK-MBJ ( 2x ), MCO-MBJ ( 1x ) and BOS-MBJ ( 2x on Saturdays ). Pretty impressive schedules if you ask me. Still have a feeling they may eventually end up operating FLL-MBJ with the E190s in the future. I will again be flying with them come November 19 th on MBJ-MCO-MBJ for my annual Florida sojourn. Looking forward to it. Won't be doing a Trip Report this time around though, as it will be too similar to the past ones. Will share any interesting spotting photos I may happen to snap none the less. Want to visit Detroit and/or Toronto next year so will do detailed TR on that trip.
I was told MBJ-FLL is a possibility, but its a very thin route..
I hope BOS-MBJ will operate on a year round basis..
Have fun in Orlando...
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 2): reat photos/theme for the 84 th Jamaican thread. What a summer it was !!
In the last thread it was briefly mentioned that CM will increase services to MBJ...There is a full story which speaks about the new increases and how it will open the doors to more Latin American markets via the PTY hub..
%u201CThese additional flight frequencies between Montego Bay and Panama City allow us to offer our customers a more complete service,%u201D said Jose Montero, planning director for Copa Airlines, in a written release. %u201CThe added departures will give our passengers more travel options to more Latin American destinations through our Hub of the Americas at Tocumen International Airport in Panama.%u201D
In addition to the expansion into Montego Bay, Copa Airlines offers regular service from the Hub of the Americas in Panama City into Jamaica%u2019s Norman Manley International Airport in Kingston on Tuesday, Wednesday, Friday and Saturday. The Kingston service departs PTY at 12:04 p.m. and arrives at KIN at 1:54 p.m. The return flight departs KIN at 6:05 p.m. and arrives at PTY at 8:00 p.m.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 7 hours ago) and read 14866 times:
Quoting guyanam (Reply 4): With all this excpansion by B6 and others, where is the market space for FJ?
Big market out there..B6 and others are expanding at BW's expense..
Another big win for Jamaica..
Jamaica has been named the 'Favourite Worldwide Destination' by readers of British Travel Awards’ ‘Check In’ magazine.
The island took the top spot from more than 70 other destinations in the magazine’s new Readers’ Choice Awards, announced last weekend.
The Readers’ Choice Awards are voted for exclusively by readers of Check In, the online interactive magazine of the British Travel Awards.
Regional Director of the Jamaica Tourist Board for the UK and Northern Europe, Elizabeth Fox, said the award was especially significant as it was the only award voted for by the public.
beeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1693 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 14864 times:
Quoting guyanam (Reply 4): With all this excpansion by B6 and others, where is the market space for FJ?
I am one of those people who was saddened to see the demise of our beloved Air Jamaica. To me, it was the only carrier to take me to and from this island of ours, and was indeed the little piece of Jamaica that flies, as the slogan said. When they merged with Caribbean Airlines, I still clung to the hope that we were still in the mix, and I flew with them a few times.
Now I'm hearing that the Air Jamaica logo may be taken off the aircraft, leaving us with nothing. That was the last straw for me. Last week, for the very first time in my life, when I went to New York I flew Jet Blue. I was impressed.
Still, there's a new kid on the block, Fly Jamaica, which up to now only has one aircraft. I cannot wait for them to get started and to also acquire more aircraft. Once again, the Jamaican brand will take to the skies and make us proud.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 12, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 14865 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 9): '' Last week, for the very first time in my life, when I went to New York I flew Jet Blue. I was impressed. "
Everyone I know who flew B6 for the first time was very impressed with their services, and is hooked. They must be doing something right.
Some great news just announced..........Starting January 1st UN will inaugurate nonstop charter flights between Moscow and Montego Bay using B777 metal.................
'' KINGSTON, Jamaica – Jamaica is now positioned to tap into the Russian tourism market after arrangements were finalised for the introduction of direct flights from Moscow to Montego Bay.
Minister of Tourism and Entertainment, Dr. Wykeham McNeill, has announced that on January 1, next year, Russian airline Transaero will begin nonstop service from Moscow to Montego Bay using a Boeing 777 with 300 seats. ''
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 13, posted (6 months 1 week 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 14868 times:
In addition to the new Moscow - Montego Bay flights coming on stream January 2013, it is quite noteworthy also that the previously launched Paris - Dominican Republic - Montego Bay charters by Look Voyages will now operate as a Paris - Montego Bay nonstop. Also TUI will operate B787 flights between ARN and MBJ come winter 2013........
" The news comes as the country makes inroad into Scandinavian frontier, which includes Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland.
Following discussions with TUI they have confirmed flights out of Scandinavia for winter 2013-2014, from Stockholm Sweden to Montego Bay using their new Dreamliner 787 said the minister. "
Congrats to the hard working Tourism Ministry for securing these additional flights from several non traditional markets to Jamaica. Lets hope this can be replicated with new charters from points in South America ( e.g. GRU, EZE etc ). Also good to know that the B787 will be in the '' Bay '' next year........
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 14, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 14865 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 12): Some great news just announced..........Starting January 1st UN will inaugurate nonstop charter flights between Moscow and Montego Bay using B777 metal.................
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 12): Finally. It is about time. Good luck to this new gateway and hopefully it will be successful and become a regular service.
Finally, after years of waiting, Jamaica has finally landed a nonstop Russian service...I am anticipating success with this route and with the upcoming World Games in Russia next summer, Jamaica will receive more publicity..
Kudos to The JTB for securing this lucrative deal..
I imagine their B777 will use maximum thrust to get airborne from MBJ..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 13): In addition to the new Moscow - Montego Bay flights coming on stream January 2013, it is quite noteworthy also that the previously launched Paris - Dominican Republic - Montego Bay charters by Look Voyages will now operate as a Paris - Montego Bay nonstop. Also TUI will operate B787 flights between ARN and MBJ come winter 2013........
" The news comes as the country makes inroad into Scandinavian frontier, which includes Sweden, Norway, Denmark and Finland.
Following discussions with TUI they have confirmed flights out of Scandinavia for winter 2013-2014, from Stockholm Sweden to Montego Bay using their new Dreamliner 787 said the minister. "
I had no idea Corsair's A330 had such a high density configuration..
Nice to see MBJ receiving a B787 service..The JTB has once again impressed me with entering this new market..With these new markets, Jamaica's tourism industry is poised for consistent growth..
Condor Airlines will provide connections via FRA in co operation with TUI Nordic..
Quote: Also, Thomas Cook Nordic, has started a Jamaican programme commencing next month, with the Condor flight via Frankfurt.
"It has sold well and they have now indicated that they will also offer service from Stockholm on a fortnightly basis with their own aircraft, an Airbus 3330 for winter 2013 to 2014, which will further open up the Scandinavian market," McNeill said.
Jamaica is now reporting success with their Latin American exploits..The new service from CM has contributed to a 71% increase in stopover arrivals..
They are now looking to increase arrivals from Chile, Ecuador, Brazil and Argentina using the PTY hub..
However,securing a nonstop Brazil service is still a work in progress..
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 15, posted (6 months 1 week 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 14865 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 14): I imagine their B777 will use maximum thrust to get airborne from MBJ..
A very long flight indeed. Good to also have the B777 back in MBJ again, after BA's ( re ) termination of their LGW-MBJ 777 service. Who knows, probably '' Speedbird '' will be back down there again someday.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 14): I had no idea Corsair's A330 had such a high density configuration..
I think the CDG-MBJ flights are operated by SE using their A332s or A333s ( or a combination of both ? ) Those aircraft are also densely configured.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 14): Jamaica is now reporting success with their Latin American exploits..The new service from CM has contributed to a 71% increase in stopover arrivals..
They are now looking to increase arrivals from Chile, Ecuador, Brazil and Argentina using the PTY hub..
However,securing a nonstop Brazil service is still a work in progress..
Really impressive stuff. All in all, exciting times are on the horizon for MBJ with the various new flights from non traditional markets.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 17, posted (6 months 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 14695 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 15): A very long flight indeed. Good to also have the B777 back in MBJ again, after BA's ( re ) termination of their LGW-MBJ 777 service. Who knows, probably '' Speedbird '' will be back down there again someday.
Ditto...
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 15): I think the CDG-MBJ flights are operated by SE using their A332s or A333s ( or a combination of both ? ) Those aircraft are also densely configured.
Hoping to see their B744 next winter into MBJ..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 15): Really impressive stuff. All in all, exciting times are on the horizon for MBJ with the various new flights from non traditional markets.
Also, DE is now operating a twice weekly FRA-MBJ service..The Sun flight that was recently shared with VRA is now nonstop in both directions..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 16): As promised, here are a few photos I took at MBJ on my way to Orlando on Monday afternoon................
Nice pics..
Hopefully, some will be able to capture the new European traffic coming into MBJ..
yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5194 posts, RR: 2 Reply 18, posted (6 months 14 hours ago) and read 14581 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 16): DL is making a killing on their ATL-MBJ route it would appear. All B752 metals.
Not necessarily. Sometimes DL and UA will use their 75s when there are yield pressures on the routes. That is why you see them to place like CUN, MCO and HNL...it has a the right mix of capacity vs seat cost.
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
WS is now operating twice daily YYZ-MBJ services...This is done in an order to facilitate the new Thomas Cook charter contract..Connections are now available from all major Canadian cities via YYZ..
Order 2012-11-38
OST-2012-0171 - Exemption and Foreign Air Carrier Permit - Jamaica-US Scheduled Passenger
Issued and Served November 30, 2012
Order Granting Exemption and To Show Cause
By application filed October 11, 2012 (as amended October 15, 2012), Fly Jamaica Airways Limited, a foreign air carrier of Jamaica, requests an exemption under 49 U.S.C. §40109, and a foreign air carrier permit under 49 U.S.C. §41301, to engage in: 1) scheduled foreign air transportation of persons and property from a point or points behind Jamaica, via Jamaica and intermediate points, to a point or points in the United States and beyond; 2) charter services pursuant to Part 212 of the Department’s regulations.
On October 25, 2012, Mr. John Gilmore filed an answer in support of Fly Jamaica’s request. In addition to expressing his support for Fly Jamaica’s application, Mr. Gilmore asserts that Caribbean Airlines Ltd. , a foreign air carrier serving the Jamaica-U.S. market, is subsidized by the Government of Trinidad and Tobago, and suggests that we monitor the activities of CAL to assure that it does not engage in predatory pricing in competing with Fly Jamaica. Mr. Gilmore also states that the application of Fly Jamaica does not contain flight schedule information that would allow the Department to assess the level of sixth-freedom traffic that the carrier would transport; and questions whether certain fitness information regarding capital requirements, that is required of U.S. carrier applicants, is also required of foreign carrier applicants.
Also
Summary
By this order we (1) grant the application of the referenced foreign air carrier for an exemption
under 49 U.S.C. §40109, subject to conditions;
1
and (2) tentatively find that it is in the public
interest to grant the applicant the foreign air carrier permit attached as Appendix B to this order.
Background
On August 23, 2005, the Department issued a Notice, in Docket DOT-OST-2005-22228,
announcing several steps designed to streamline our regulatory procedures for licensing U.S. and
foreign air carriers. Among other things, the Notice stated that:
Assuming, based on the record and on the public interest/public convenience and
necessity elements germane to our licensing decisions, that we were in a position to act
favorably, we would proceed to issue a single order (1) granting the exemption request
for whatever duration we would normally have imposed, or until certificate/permit
authority becomes effective, whichever is shorter, and (2) tentatively deciding (i.e.,
show-cause) to award a corresponding certificate (or permit), again for the standard
duration we would normally have imposed (such as, in the case of certificates, five
years for limited-entry markets, indefinite for open-entry markets, and in the case of
permits, five years for comity and reciprocity regimes, indefinite for agreement
regimes).
LimaNiner From United States of America, joined Oct 2006, 391 posts, RR: 0 Reply 24, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14066 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 22): I am certain many travellers from the west coast would welcome the return of a non-stop link to MBJ.
SFO-MBJ, pretty please!! (A guy can dream, can't he?)
For SFO-based pax, connecting at LAX is at least as much of a hassle as going via DFW, IAH, ATL, or MIA. In fact, LAX is a pretty crappy airport, to be honest.
TC957 From UK - England, joined May 2012, 336 posts, RR: 0 Reply 25, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 14114 times:
I'll be visiting Jamaica on my holiday next week and might fancy a couple of visits to MBJ for a bit of spotting. What's the do's and dont's of spotting in MBJ ? Any suggested photo places near the runway ends ??
I presume weekend are the busiest times.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 26, posted (5 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 14073 times:
Quoting LimaNiner (Reply 24): SFO-MBJ, pretty please!! (A guy can dream, can't he?)
For SFO-based pax, connecting at LAX is at least as much of a hassle as going via DFW, IAH, ATL, or MIA. In fact, LAX is a pretty crappy airport, to be honest.
JM operated the MBJ-SFO route for a ( very ) short period in the past. Late '80's/early '90's era. What I can't recall is if the flight was operated via LAX or nonstop. Metal was the A300. Doubt if any other carrier ever operated scheduled and/or charters on that sector in the past. In any case I suspect that a LAX-MBJ service would ( re ) materialise before a SFO-MBJ one.
Quoting TC957 (Reply 25): I'll be visiting Jamaica on my holiday next week and might fancy a couple of visits to MBJ for a bit of spotting. What's the do's and dont's of spotting in MBJ ? Any suggested photo places near the runway ends ??
I presume weekend are the busiest times.
Weekends are definately much busier than weekdays at MBJ. And will even get busier when the height of the winter season come around. As for spotting, that may be somewhat of a challenge as the ideal spot near RWY 07 end has been closed off as far as I know. Your best bet I think would be that popular bar/grill location on Kent Avenue. Hummingbird should be able to give more details on this.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 27, posted (5 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 14043 times:
After a 4 months delay, the repaving of runway 07/25 will commence in January..............well lets hope it actually does
'' REHABILITATION work on the runway of the Sangster International Airport will begin in January.
MBJ Airports limited signed a contract yesterday for the rehabilitation work valued at US$18.9 million ($1.7 billion) with Jamaican company, Surrey Paving and Canadian-based IDL Projects and Belvedere Place Development. ''
Incidentally on my B6 flight down from Orlando last week Friday, a visitor from Jacksonville seated next to me was asking when will they resurface the runway at MBJ and I was telling her that it should have started months ago. Also I am wondering when will they break ground on the new control tower project.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9080 posts, RR: 13 Reply 28, posted (5 months 2 weeks 5 days 17 hours ago) and read 13960 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 26): Quoting TC957 (Reply 25):
I'll be visiting Jamaica on my holiday next week and might fancy a couple of visits to MBJ for a bit of spotting. What's the do's and dont's of spotting in MBJ ? Any suggested photo places near the runway ends ??
I presume weekend are the busiest times.
Weekends are definately much busier than weekdays at MBJ. And will even get busier when the height of the winter season come around. As for spotting, that may be somewhat of a challenge as the ideal spot near RWY 07 end has been closed off as far as I know. Your best bet I think would be that popular bar/grill location on Kent Avenue. Hummingbird should be able to give more details on this.
Interesting news for me too should I go to MBJ for aircraft spotting. Isn't there a beach at rwy 07 and is photography not even possible with this area closed? The most important question is: when is the sun located in front of you and when is it behind you? This is crucial for us aircraft spotters and can make or brake a spotting trip
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 29, posted (5 months 2 weeks 5 days 3 hours ago) and read 13859 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 28): Isn't there a beach at rwy 07 and is photography not even possible with this area closed?
Think there is now fencing in that area and they have signs posted as it being restricted, but not certain if people still hang out there any at all, to avoid confrontations with authorities.
Quoting A388 (Reply 28): The most important question is: when is the sun located in front of you and when is it behind you? This is crucial for us aircraft spotters and can make or brake a spotting trip
Yes I do realise that it makes a big difference where photography is concerned. What I observe is that when inside the terminal, you get better photo results when standing facing runway 07/25 as opposed to standing over the other side facing the highway/mountains. See the diagram of the layout in the link below. Then again, being inside one have to contend with the glare from the glass sometimes.................
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 30, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 13732 times:
Some interesting news here. Despite very slim growth in visitor arrivals from traditional markets such as the USA and Canada, and a decline in arrivals from Europe, the smaller non-traditional markets have shown impressive growth to date. Also China is surpassing Japan as the top Asian market for arrivals albeit still very small.........
'' However, the slim growth hides the rapid rise in smaller markets including France from which arrivals was up 160 per cent to some 7,200, Colombia up 247 per cent to some 2,500, and Chile up 309 per cent to some 2,300 arrivals for the year to August, according to JTB statistics. ''
'' The additional arrivals from Colombia and Chile were attributable to service to Jamaica by the Latin America-based Copa Airlines, which earlier bumped up its flights. ''
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9080 posts, RR: 13 Reply 31, posted (5 months 2 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 13684 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 29): Yes I do realise that it makes a big difference where photography is concerned. What I observe is that when inside the terminal, you get better photo results when standing facing runway 07/25 as opposed to standing over the other side facing the highway/mountains. See the diagram of the layout in the link below. Then again, being inside one have to contend with the glare from the glass sometimes.................
That would mean that spotting in MBJ isn't worth it because the sun is in front of you. The only option is photography from within the terminal itself. Unless the terminal building itself has a public restaurant that allows good aircraft photography (even with glare from the sun).
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 32, posted (5 months 2 weeks 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 13564 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 31): Unless the terminal building itself has a public restaurant that allows good aircraft photography
Couple months ago there were talks that they were planning to construct restaurant facilities at both KIN and MBJ that would allow for great views of the tarmac and operations. Not certain if they have started this project as yet but I will keep you posted.
According to this report, they have now determined the cause of the AA 331 KIN overshoot in December 2009......
'' Some 145 passengers narrowly escaped death in December 2009 when AA flight 331, flying from Miami to Kingston, overshot the runway at the Norman Manley International Airport and came to a stop inches from the sea just off the Port Royal main road.
Yesterday, the Jamaica Civil Aviation Authority (JCAA), which has been probing the incident, said it has now determined the cause of the crash.
However, director general of the JCAA, Lieutenant Colonel Oscar Derby, declined to discuss the findings, saying the report is still being finalised and will first have to go to Transport Minister Dr Omar Davies.
He said the report could be released by the end of next month. ''
Wouldn't be surprised if the final report is even further extended into next year, as it was expected to be ready in May/June of 2012. But as we all know, these investigations take time so we patiently await the findings.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 33, posted (5 months 2 weeks 1 day 7 hours ago) and read 13542 times:
Good news coming from the tourism front..
The first flight arriving from Russia is showing a full load...I can assure you, the high loads will continue for the rest of the season..
THE historic first flight from Moscow, Russia to Montego Bay in January next year is said to be fully sold out, according to Jamaica Tourism Minister Dr Wykeham McNeill.
Russian airline Transaero will begin nonstop service from Moscow to Montego Bay on January 1, using a Boeing 777 aircraft with a seating capacity of 300 passengers.
The flight is scheduled to arrive at 1:00 pm, McNeill told the Jamaica Observer Monday Exchange at the newspaper%u2019s head offices in Kingston yesterday.
The chartered flight, organised by Russian tour operator Biblio Globus, is scheduled to operate initially for three months, with discussions for them to continue into the summer and throughout the entire year.
Last month, the tourism minister announced that Jamaica has also secured airlift out of several European cities which, it is hoped, will bring thousands of visitors to the island for the upcoming winter tourist season which runs from December 15 through to April.
Quoting TC957 (Reply 25): I'll be visiting Jamaica on my holiday next week and might fancy a couple of visits to MBJ for a bit of spotting. What's the do's and dont's of spotting in MBJ ? Any suggested photo places near the runway ends ??
I presume weekend are the busiest times.
Many thanks
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 26): Weekends are definately much busier than weekdays at MBJ. And will even get busier when the height of the winter season come around. As for spotting, that may be somewhat of a challenge as the ideal spot near RWY 07 end has been closed off as far as I know. Your best bet I think would be that popular bar/grill location on Kent Avenue. Hummingbird should be able to give more details on this.
The best place to spot is on Kent Ave as AirJamaica suggested..There are walls surrounding the airport that allows you to capture the arrivals from different angles..
These are pics I took in 2007, the area has not changed that much..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 30): '' The additional arrivals from Colombia and Chile were attributable to service to Jamaica by the Latin America-based Copa Airlines, which earlier bumped up its flights. ''
IMO, The JTB should engage The Avianca Group to start flights into MBJ via their BOG hub..
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 34, posted (5 months 1 week 5 days 18 hours ago) and read 13436 times:
According to The Jamaica Gleaner, Fly Jamaica will fly before Christmas..
He said the company has now started to prepare flight schedules and is awaiting fare approval. Fly Jamaica Airways is also in negotiations with airports to arrange terminal slots and immigrations agreements.
"Many things are going on at the same time. A myriad of clearances must happen, but they are working simultaneously. We will fly before Christmas, even if I have to do one flight to start the process," Tai said.
After 14 months of working assiduously to get the airline off the ground, Tai said the operators were quite satisfied with the progress.
"Despite the level of frustration, we were determined and committed to getting this project done. We feel it is a critical project for Jamaica," Tai said.
yankeejuliet From Jamaica, joined Sep 2008, 158 posts, RR: 0 Reply 36, posted (5 months 1 week 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 13374 times:
Fly Jamaica is going to be a great success , as preparation for this venture was carried out in the correct manner. This is unlike what others think in the Caribbean forum. BW's nightmare is becoming a reality.
Asked if the company was making money from its Air Jamaica investment, Moonan responded: "The company is not yet realising any profits from its Air Jamaica operations. On that side of the business, stiff competition from several low-fares airlines out of the US has caused CAL to revisit its strategies and its cost structure, which we are progressively working on in an effort to level the playing field."
He noted the airline was also in the process of reviewing its routes.
The airline has already dropped one route, from Montego Bay to Philadelphia, USA.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 38, posted (5 months 1 week 3 days 9 hours ago) and read 13133 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 33): Good news coming from the tourism front..
The first flight arriving from Russia is showing a full load...I can assure you, the high loads will continue for the rest of the season..
Saw a television interview with Tourism Minister Wykeham McNeill yesterday and he noted that the second flight is also fully booked, so quite a promising start for this long awaited route.
Asked if the company was making money from its Air Jamaica investment, Moonan responded: "The company is not yet realising any profits from its Air Jamaica operations. On that side of the business, stiff competition from several low-fares airlines out of the US has caused CAL to revisit its strategies and its cost structure, which we are progressively working on in an effort to level the playing field."
He noted the airline was also in the process of reviewing its routes.
The airline has already dropped one route, from Montego Bay to Philadelphia, USA.
I agree that Jamaica apparently is a different environment for BW to compete in as they have much more competition but we must also not forget that any airline merger isn't going to give you profits in two years orso. What I read in the quoted text are only logical measures that any airline would take in order to position themselves better compared to where they are now.
Regarding FlyJamaica, I have my doubts of this airline becoming a success but as I did with BW I give them time to prove themselves. I hope to see them or Caribbean Airlines/Air Jamaica in Curacao one day.
So in a nutshell, good luck to both Caribbean Airlines/Air Jamaica and FlyJamaica.
yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5194 posts, RR: 2 Reply 40, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 16 hours ago) and read 13015 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 33): IMO, The JTB should engage The Avianca Group to start flights into MBJ via their BOG hub..
TA had looked at serving KIN a couple of times (remember they also served KIN many many years ago) from various points in C. America. At one point even looking at tagging KIN to their SAL-BZE.
So they should have all the data needed.
A 4X E-190 KIN-SAL/GUA might work. Lots of business ties developing...Siman (owners of Courts), Digicel, Guardian Life, etc....even Grace Kennedy now has GUA operations.
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
BW lacks what JM had, and that was a very loyal VFR market, which hung in there through thick aand thin, even when the fares werent the most competitive. Jcans will now jump on who ever is cheaper and so now there is more competition into KIN than what JM had, or what BW is accustomed to in its core POS/GEO market.
Do not know what other routes they might drop as they are now down to the core FLL/JFK/YYZ in its KIN base. They have recently increased off season service to MCO so it couldnt be that route.
We will see what happens to FlyJamaica. I have my doubts, but then one never knows.
MaverickM11 From United States of America, joined Apr 2000, 15750 posts, RR: 48 Reply 42, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 12954 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 20): FLL-KIN
9394-4079 43%...This is what I call the B6 effect..
It's really just the South Florida effect--FLL/MIA LFs to KIN/MBJ have been abysmal for years, especially for carriers that don't have a hub in South Florida.
yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5194 posts, RR: 2 Reply 43, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 12948 times:
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 42): It's really just the South Florida effect--FLL/MIA LFs to KIN/MBJ have been abysmal for years, especially for carriers that don't have a hub in South Florida.
You know this not jsut Jamaica.....AA is beginning to struggle out of MIA on quite a few routes to The Caribbean and Central America. UA, DL, US are eating into their markets as people start to shift away from MIA (like me!). For example, here in BZE.. AA's.MIA used to be THE route.....now it has been eclipsed by UAs IAH. DFW is surging, same for ATL.
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 44, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 12926 times:
Quoting guyanam (Reply 41): Jcans will now jump on who ever is cheaper and so now there is more competition into KIN
And many are seemingly jumping on B6.
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 42): It's really just the South Florida effect--FLL/MIA LFs to KIN/MBJ have been abysmal for years, especially for carriers that don't have a hub in South Florida.
But why would B6 be so eager to start FLL-KIN if that market was so abysmal for years, even when two other carriers were already entrenched on it at the time of their inaugural ? All this in addition to the fact that AA has MIA-KIN/MBJ locked next door, though I do agree that they benefit immensely from additional connection traffic through their humongous MIA hub.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 45, posted (5 months 1 week 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 12904 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 38): Saw a television interview with Tourism Minister Wykeham McNeill yesterday and he noted that the second flight is also fully booked, so quite a promising start for this long awaited route.
Great news indeed..Good to see the return of the B777 to MBJ..
Quoting A388 (Reply 39): I agree that Jamaica apparently is a different environment for BW to compete in as they have much more competition but we must also not forget that any airline merger isn't going to give you profits in two years orso. What I read in the quoted text are only logical measures that any airline would take in order to position themselves better compared to where they are now.
But since the merger, the airline has yet to realize any real profit..What I find funny is the current GOJ has been silent on the issue..
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 40): TA had looked at serving KIN a couple of times (remember they also served KIN many many years ago) from various points in C. America. At one point even looking at tagging KIN to their SAL-BZE.
So they should have all the data needed.
A 4X E-190 KIN-SAL/GUA might work. Lots of business ties developing...Siman (owners of Courts), Digicel, Guardian Life, etc....even Grace Kennedy now has GUA operations.
Do you think they would combine KIN and MBJ to capitalize on the Jamaican market, thus the service would cater to the business and leisure market..
Quoting guyanam (Reply 41): They have recently increased off season service to MCO so it couldnt be that route.
I thought the increase was the extra POS-MCO nonstop and not the POS-KIN-MCO legs..
Quoting guyanam (Reply 41): Do not know what other routes they might drop as they are now down to the core FLL/JFK/YYZ in its KIN base.
I can see future frequency reductions on all three routes, especially YYZ and JFK...
Unlike EZJet, BW cannot engage in predatory pricing on the KIN-JFK route with FlyJamaica as they are being monitored by The DOT..
Quoting MaverickM11 (Reply 42): It's really just the South Florida effect--FLL/MIA LFs to KIN/MBJ have been abysmal for years, especially for carriers that don't have a hub in South Florida.
Since the transition, BW has dominated the route with their 3 daily flights, with lfs in the 70s-80s...Since B6 entered the market with their 2 daily flights, BW started and has continued to see a loss of seats to B6...The lowest round trip fare you will find on the route is within the $300 range..
Its good to note that BW offers 2 bags free, while B6 offers 1 bag free, yet Jamaicans are flocking to B6 in droves..
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 43): You know this not jsut Jamaica.....AA is beginning to struggle out of MIA on quite a few routes to The Caribbean and Central America.
Give AA two years to re-organize their cost structure and they will be a force to be reckoned with.
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 44): But why would B6 be so eager to start FLL-KIN if that market was so abysmal for years, even when two other carriers were already entrenched on it at the time of their inaugural ? All this in addition to the fact that AA has MIA-KIN/MBJ locked next door, though I do agree that they benefit immensely from additional connection traffic through their humongous MIA hub.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9080 posts, RR: 13 Reply 46, posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 12821 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 45): But since the merger, the airline has yet to realize any real profit..What I find funny is the current GOJ has been silent on the issue..
That's exactly what I'm saying, don't expect any airline to make a profit after a merger with another airline. I know Jamaica is a different ballgame but BW needs more time to get things in order, just like any other airline would so I'm not saying that they will do well or do worse but just to give them time to prove themselves. What they are doing now is adjusting to the current situation and take measures to attempt to improve their operation. Nothing wrong with that in my opinion. If these measures don't work, they will look at other options and if all fails, they will pull out and based on what I've read in the past, the GoJ will have to pay them a lot of money if they have to leave, maybe this is why the GoJ is so silent(?)
BW does NOT have more time to get their act together. They are bleeding cash. While they will have to support their POS operations, as they are a T&T airline, if Jamaica doesnt work and is a cash drain, they will just dump it.
Their market share on the JFK KIN/MBJ seems stable. They have cut service to YYZ, meaning that they have LOST market share (4X 738s, down from JMs 6x A321). FLL looks shaky. A big problem with them is that many of the Jcans who live in So FL have ties to BOTH the NY area and to Jamaica so making B6 their carrier, for frequent flyer purposes begins to look tempting.
Whats saving BW with Jcans is the 2 free bag rule. That is their savior on the JFK.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 48, posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 12769 times:
More competition to YYZ next summer..Air Canada has announced their new LLC division, called Rogue..KIN will be one of their destinations starting July 13, 2013..They will operate a special configured A319, 5 times a week to KIN..
Quoting A388 (Reply 46): the GoJ will have to pay them a lot of money if they have to leave, maybe this is why the GoJ is so silent(?)
The GOJ will not have to pay and per the contract, BW cannot drop more routes...
Quoting guyanam (Reply 47): BW does NOT have more time to get their act together. They are bleeding cash. While they will have to support their POS operations, as they are a T&T airline, if Jamaica doesnt work and is a cash drain, they will just dump it.
At this time, its best to focus their resources on building a strong GEO operation..Lots of potential in the deep South...
Quoting guyanam (Reply 47): heir market share on the JFK KIN/MBJ seems stable.
For now...
Quoting guyanam (Reply 47): They have cut service to YYZ, meaning that they have LOST market share (4X 738s, down from JMs 6x A321)
Lets see what will happen next summer..What will it be like to have, AC,WS,BW and FlyJam operating to KIN..
Actually GoJ is being silent on BWs noncompliance with the original agreement. They were supposed to service 6 routes out of Mbj/KIN. They service only 5, including NAS. BW plays no role in ensuring that Jca has airlift to support its vital tourism industry.
There is no reason for GoJ to pay BW anything if BW was unable to develop a profitable operation in KIN. BW got into this knowing that this was a very different market.
1. Way more competitive.
2. Not assured of the loyalty factor, indeed in the early days there was even hostility, though I think that most Jcans are now reconciled to their presence, and many value their two free bag policy.
3. It is clear that the GoJ didnt make any promises about preventing another Jca based carrier from diluting BWs VFR market as BW has raised no objections to FlyJ.
The way I see it GoTT was helping GoJ out of a jam and it fit into Emperor Patrick Manning's Emperor fantasies. GoJ became compliant with the IMF with JM off their hands. And they were saved the political fall out of having to close down Air J...that brand exists even today, even though no longer Jcan owned, ad no longer an independent carrier.
GoJ doesnt care if BW leaves the KIN/MBJ North Am routes as that airlift will easily be replaced. The existing GoTT will merely mark the discontinuance of this base as another failure of the previous govt, and will n ote their opposition to gthis deal when it was made.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 50, posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 8 hours ago) and read 12717 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 46): If these measures don't work, they will look at other options and if all fails, they will pull out and based on what I've read in the past, the GoJ will have to pay them a lot of money if they have to leave, maybe this is why the GoJ is so silent(?)
Based on what was previously disclosed at the height of the '' agreement '' the GOJ will have no further financial obligations as it pertains to same, should they eventually decide to lock shop in KIN. At least that was the impression I got.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 48): More competition to YYZ next summer..Air Canada has announced their new LLC division, called Rogue..KIN will be one of their destinations starting July 13, 2013..They will operate a special configured A319, 5 times a week to KIN..
Quite an unusual name for a LCC I think. It is actually spelt '' Rouge '' which has a different meaning from '' Rogue ''. Anyway, let us see how this arm of their operations will play out in the future. So AC's '' Rouge '' will replace AC on their YYZ-KIN route. Would have more expected to see them operating on YYZ-MBJ first considering the larger leisure component down there. But this new announcement by AC just further solidify how competitive the Kingston market is ( and is getting ) as naturally they will offer slightly reduced fares to compete for even more market share, and to tackle WS and others no doubt.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 51, posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 6 hours ago) and read 12703 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 50): But this new announcement by AC just further solidify how competitive the Kingston market is ( and is getting ) as naturally they will offer slightly reduced fares to compete for even more market share, and to tackle WS and others no doubt.
I believe AC will still maintain their corporate clients on the route, but this move as you mentioned was expected as WS's entry further lowered the yields..AC with their high labor cost, struggles to compete with WS on key routes..I don't think AC is ready to relinquish KIN to other carriers...
FlyJamaica is ready and will soon launch it's web services..
Fly Jamaica has now received final approval to take to the skies and will launch its first flight as a charter.
Director of Fly Jamaica, Christine Steel, said the airline also plans to set up its schedule for customers to start booking its service.
She acknowledged that the airline is entering a fairly competitive market...but said Fly Jamaica will distinguish itself through service.
“We plan to do full service on our flight, meals, everything…we are not getting into low fares , we plan to do first class service, first class in economy - meals, bars, everything on our flight, all the bookings will be done on our website which will be open shortly”
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 52, posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 12718 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 51): I believe AC will still maintain their corporate clients on the route, but this move as you mentioned was expected as WS's entry further lowered the yields..AC with their high labor cost, struggles to compete with WS on key routes..I don't think AC is ready to relinquish KIN to other carriers...
Guess AC had no choice but to react, though I don't think this is the first time they have attempted to create a LCC subsidiary to compete with the likes of WS, TS, WG etc. More than likely YYZ-MBJ will also eventually be serviced by their new '' Rouge '' brand.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9080 posts, RR: 13 Reply 53, posted (5 months 1 week 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 12714 times:
Thanks for the replies guys, all I'm saying is to give BW time. You are all saying that they are bleeding money and then I don't understand that they are still there and adjusting their strategy. Why is that? Maybe there is something they see that we don't, I don't know. If all fails, they will leave and go back to T&T whether it be with or without the GoJ paying them money.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 54, posted (5 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 12522 times:
Club MoBay officially opened at Sangster International Airport recently..................
Luxury lounges open at Sangster International Airport
'' Jamaica's newest visitor experience, Club MoBay has unveiled two swanky VIP lounges, one for arriving passengers, the other for persons departing the island.
The two state-of-the-art facilities were opened last Saturday at the Sangster International Airport in Montego Bay, Jamaica. ''
'' Located in the departure terminal between Gate 9 and the Red Stripe Café, Club Kingston is set to open officially at Norman Manley International Airport soon. Access to Club MoBay is free to business and first-class passengers of partner airlines such as Caribbean Airlines, Virgin Atlantic, Transaero, Neos and Condor. For one-time access, other passengers pay US$30 for adults and US$15 for children ages two-12. The lounge is open from 6 a.m. to 10 p.m. daily. ''
Great addition to MBJ and it is also good that KIN will soon be getting their own lounge ( s ) as well. Quite a transformation from what existed a few years ago at both facilities.
Seem there is some legal wrangling brewing involving a former JM exceutive.............
'' Caribbean Airlines faces a fine of $500,000 should a ruling be made against it and a further $20,000 for each day that the breach of the IDT's ruling has occurred. "
'' Small started working with Air Jamaica from 2002 as associate general counsel. She was made general counsel in 2006. In April 2010, Caribbean Airlines took over Air Jamaica and in May of that year she was made vice-president of legal affairs and corporate secretary.
She was let go the following year, according to her statement filed in the magistrate's court.
Small, who is represented by Georgia Gibson-Henlin of the law firm Henlin Gibson Henlin, took the matter to the IDT, which made its reinstatement order in July 2012.
According to Small's statement, her attorney wrote to Caribbean Airlines on August 10 about the ruling. The airline, she said, responded three days later, saying that it would comply with the order.
However, Small said on August 15 she was informed via letter from Caribbean Airlines that her position had been made redundant.
Regarding this development, Small is contending that Caribbean Airlines did not follow the proper procedures. "
With their rapid expansions plans, I expect them in MBJ by early 2014..
Got this pic of CM B738 in MBJ..I was told the flight was full of South American tourists..MBJ has been seeing the B738 during the winter..CM had originally uploaded the sched with the E190, but has since upgauged to the B738..Good news for the tourist industry..
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 56, posted (4 months 3 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 12047 times:
Happy New Year everyone...................
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 55): Got this pic of CM B738 in MBJ..I was told the flight was full of South American tourists..MBJ has been seeing the B738 during the winter..CM had originally uploaded the sched with the E190, but has since upgauged to the B738..Good news for the tourist industry..
CM's PTY-MBJ service is gaining popularity with South American travelers wishing to visit Jamaica with the least amount of hassle where getting here is concerned it would appear. Also the recently implemented visa relaxation program for visitors from certain countries such as Colombia etc who are staying less than 30 days doesn't hurt either. Great to see them upgrade their equipment into MBJ.
Not bad considering the shaky start they had on this route. Those E190s certainly serve them well on these sectors, with the larger A320s being used when demand dictates during peak times.
AA, F9 and UA all seem to be holding their own on ORD - MBJ.
Well today marks the arrival of UN's historic inaugural flight into MBJ from DME. UN 9785 is scheduled to arrive in the '' Bay '' at 4:55 pm. Originally they had said the arrival was scheduled for 1:00pm when this new service was initially announced.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 57, posted (4 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 11945 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 56): Happy New Year everyone...................
Happy New Year..2013 will be an exciting year in our aviation industry..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 56): CM's PTY-MBJ service is gaining popularity with South American travelers wishing to visit Jamaica with the least amount of hassle where getting here is concerned it would appear. Also the recently implemented visa relaxation program for visitors from certain countries such as Colombia etc who are staying less than 30 days doesn't hurt either. Great to see them upgrade their equipment into MBJ.
Would love to see a daily service by Dec 2013..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 56): Not bad considering the shaky start they had on this route. Those E190s certainly serve them well on these sectors, with the larger A320s being used when demand dictates during peak times.
I am curious to find out when B6 will add their 3rd daily to KIN from FLL..
On the other hand, NK has loaded their sched to KIN for S13 as daily from FLL..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 56): AA, F9 and UA all seem to be holding their own on ORD - MBJ.
Impressive..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 56): Well today marks the arrival of UN's historic inaugural flight into MBJ from DME. UN 9785 is scheduled to arrive in the '' Bay '' at 4:55 pm. Originally they had said the arrival was scheduled for 1:00pm when this new service was initially announced.
Looks like the flight arrived at 5:23pm...It had a flight time of 12:51hrs..
I can tell KIN is a goldmine for these carriers...Looking at these stats, the KIN-JFK market can accommodate at least 2 new carriers..
This weekend, the first flight from Prague arrived into MBJ..Looks like a B738 was used to service the flight which stops in POP..I was told the outbound flight has a stop in Azores Island..
Happy New Year to you too and all the best for you and your family in 2013..
2013 will be a year of aviation growth, the US domestic market has seen growth and I expect the same to happen for the region..
Who knows, perhaps FLYjam will grace the tarmac at CuR in 2013..
Another good news for the industry ..Transaero will now extend their current schedule to Oct13..
Cpt Tai mentioned that aircraft two will join the fleet shortly.. New start date is mid Jan...
Can't wait to usher the new piece of Jamaica that flies...
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9080 posts, RR: 13 Reply 62, posted (4 months 3 weeks 18 hours ago) and read 11600 times:
Thanks hummingbird. It welcome FlyJam to Curacao and I still hope they will introduce a more colorful livery than what they have now. What about a green/yellow/black livery or waves in the livery. Wouldn't that be much more appealing to Jamaicans?
yankeejuliet I hope FlyJam will lease the A320 as I assume there are still Jamaicans with lots of experience on the A320.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 63, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 11463 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 62): Thanks hummingbird. It welcome FlyJam to Curacao and I still hope they will introduce a more colorful livery than what they have now. What about a green/yellow/black livery or waves in the livery. Wouldn't that be much more appealing to Jamaicans?
Would love to see a colorful livery, but I believe, they will try to adapt a cost effective livery..
More good news for NMIA...I hope this comes to fruition..
A private group of local and international investors asked Atelier-Vidal Ltd. to develop concepts for the creation of a hangar to manufacture powered fixed wing aircraft. The feasibility study examines Kingston Jamaica as a natural hub for facilities of this kind due to its English-speaking workforce, access to a large natural harbour and proximity to the world’s largest economy. The design is focused on maximizing the flow of parts from the public road and through the internal component fitting zones. Adjacent to the large workspace are several storage and mechanical service areas, while the upper floors include training rooms, meeting rooms, café areas and offices.
yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5194 posts, RR: 2 Reply 64, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 11454 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 45): Do you think they would combine KIN and MBJ to capitalize on the Jamaican market, thus the service would cater to the business and leisure market..
No.....they would chase the business pax first......that means KIN.
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 65, posted (4 months 2 weeks 4 days 6 hours ago) and read 11415 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 59): Another good news for the industry ..Transaero will now extend their current schedule to Oct13..
I think this new charter route is going to be a popular one for UN. Lets hope so atleast, as many factors can affect this over time.
Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 60): FlyJam is reportedly negotiating the possible lease of two aircraft from ILFC for summer 2013 operations. Lets hope airbus types are included.
Lets hope that they unveil a '' real '' livery as well to boot..... Current one isn't appealing at all !! As for the aircraft type, I am a big airbus fan, but I have a strong feeling they will go boeing.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 66, posted (4 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 11336 times:
Some people are questioning the relevance of the JM '' tail '' that is located at the entrance to the Norman Manley International Airport in Kingston........................
'' Like a true work of art, it looks nice, but not everyone understands it.
That airplane tail that has long been sitting at the roundabout near the entrance to the Norman Manley International Airport in Kingston, has, in recent days, left some people scratching their heads. ''
Well people seem to be very opiniated about its presence. Who knows, maybe they will repaint it in Fly Jamaica's tail livery ( when they adapt a more appealing one )
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 67, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 11231 times:
WN has announced 4x weekly service between MDW and MBJ beginning April 14th 2013. These flights will be operated by FL for the time being.............
'' AirTran Airways nonstop flights between Chicago (Midway) and Montego Bay*:
Begin Sunday, April 14
Will operate on Mondays, Tuesdays, Fridays, and Sundays "
Not bad at all. More options for travelers from that region. Seem WN will have quite a presence in MBJ when the merger is fully completed.
AA passengers at both KIN and MBJ got serenaded with surprise flash mob performances while waiting to board their respective morning flights to MIA over the past Xmas holidays.................
'' American Airlines employees in Jamaica surprised customers today by taking part in a special holiday flashmob. Customers who were waiting at Norman Manley International Airport in Kingston to board flight 1504 to Miami, and passengers waiting to board flight 1648 to Miami at Sangster International Airport in Montego Bay were treated to a surprise performance of holiday songs by the American Airlines team. "
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 68, posted (4 months 2 weeks 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 11194 times:
JAMAICA WELCOMED its first Finnish cruise line Tuesday morning at the Montego Bay Cruise Ship Pier.
The ship, Kristina Katarina, is also the first to home-port in the island for a total of three days, giving restaurants and nightlife operators in the Second City an opportunity to host the sea-based passengers outside regular cruise-ship hours.
The cruise, which started in Barbados and stopped in Dominican Republic en route, had some 334 passengers and 92 crew members on-board. Jamaica is its homeport, meaning the passengers who were brought here via sea will fly from the island to their respective countries, while another group of passengers will commence the cruise here. http://jamaica-gleaner.com/gleaner/20130110/news/news1.html
Passengers were transported to HEL on a Monarch A300 that flew via YYT...
Such a pity we dont have a pic of that A300 in MBJ..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 65): Lets hope that they unveil a '' real '' livery as well to boot..... Current one isn't appealing at all !! As for the aircraft type, I am a big airbus fan, but I have a strong feeling they will go boeing.
I was told, its cheaper to maintain Boeing since the staff are already trained on the fleet...
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 66): Well people seem to be very opiniated about its presence. Who knows, maybe they will repaint it in Fly Jamaica's tail livery ( when they adapt a more appealing one )
That would a perfect appeal to the local diaspora..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 67): WN has announced 4x weekly service between MDW and MBJ beginning April 14th 2013. These flights will be operated by FL for the time being.............
'' AirTran Airways nonstop flights between Chicago (Midway) and Montego Bay*:
Begin Sunday, April 14
Will operate on Mondays, Tuesdays, Fridays, and Sundays "
Great to see a new service...
So this summer we will have WN serving MBJ from;
BWI-2 daily
MCO
ATL
MDW 4 weekly..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 67): '' American Airlines employees in Jamaica surprised customers today by taking part in a special holiday flashmob. Customers who were waiting at Norman Manley International Airport in Kingston to board flight 1504 to Miami, and passengers waiting to board flight 1648 to Miami at Sangster International Airport in Montego Bay were treated to a surprise performance of holiday songs by the American Airlines team.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 71, posted (4 months 1 week 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 10893 times:
NK has reloaded FLL-KIN for S13..
NK FLL-KIN APR 0>0.1 MAY 0.7>0.5 JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.5 AUG 1.0>0.6
FLL-MBJ will be reduced for S13..
NK FLL-MBJ MAY 1.0>0.7 JUN 1.0>0.8 JUL 1.0>0.8 AUG 1.0>0.9
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Jamaican owned Couples Resort will shortly operate Barbados's first all inclusive property later this year...
Couples Resorts has concluded negotiations for the lease of the 280 room Almond Casuarina Beach Resort, in Barbados. The deal takes effect February 10.
Under Couples' management, the property will operate as Casuarina Beach Resort through to May 31, offering the same facilities and amenities currently being provided.
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 70): '' Summarily, seeing the Lovebird tail at the airport roundabout connotes total failure, to the extent where the airline crash landed underground. "
Now he is taking this thing to another level........
Talk about passion, lol..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 70): Up to 5 flights to MBJ on some days. I have a strong feeling they will expand even further down there over time, all things being well.
NK FLL-KIN APR 0>0.1 MAY 0.7>0.5 JUN 1.0>0.6 JUL 1.0>0.5 AUG 1.0>0.6
FLL-MBJ will be reduced for S13..
NK FLL-MBJ MAY 1.0>0.7 JUN 1.0>0.8 JUL 1.0>0.8 AUG 1.0>0.9
The battle continues on the Jamaica - FLL routes.......................
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 71): MBJ will be graced with another B787 for W13..Thomson Airways will operate a weekly service connecting LGW and MBJ from Nov04-Apr21,2014..
Great for MBJ. The 787 has been making the news quite frequently nowadays though with all the issues being experienced.
Their ops to MBJ isn't bad at all frequency/coverage wise.
Some industry personnel are calling for the expansion of the runway at the Ian Fleming airport..................
'' TOURISM interests on Jamaicas north and north eastern coasts want the Ian Fleming Airport runway to be extended in order to land larger jets.
Adding another 1,000 feet of pavement could accommodate commercial airlines flying directly to the St Mary based airport from as far north as New York, while planes from South American countries, like Colombia, and any Caribbean point of origin could touch down there. "
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 73, posted (4 months 1 week 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 10704 times:
Guys,
FlyJamaica will officially launch services later today at a special press conference ..
Fly Jamaica Airways, a newcomer to the airline industry is to be launched Wednesday. An evening function has been scheduled to mark the event.
This comes weeks after Fly Jamaica's chief operating officer, Captain Lloyd Tai, disclosed that the airline had secured its safety certifications in Jamaica and the United States. Lieutenant Colonel Oscar Darby, Director-General of the Jamaica Civil Aviation Authority, told RJR's Financial Report on Wednesday that Fly Jamaica now had the all clear.
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 72): Great for MBJ. The 787 has been making the news quite frequently nowadays though with all the issues being experienced.
Am not surprised, but hopefuly these issues will be resolved shortly..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 72): Some industry personnel are calling for the expansion of the runway at the Ian Fleming airport..................
'' TOURISM interests on Jamaicas north and north eastern coasts want the Ian Fleming Airport runway to be extended in order to land larger jets.
Way too ambitious...There is reason we have two international airports..The best thing IMO is to use the domestic carriers to funnel traffic between the Boscobel and MBJ/KIN
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 74, posted (4 months 1 week 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10637 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 73): FlyJamaica will officially launch services later today at a special press conference ..
According to this report the first flight will operate on January 25th 2013 - KIN-JFK. The initial schedule is 4x weekly.....
'' Operations are set to begin on January 25 with the inaugural flight scheduled for New York.
Fly Jamaica will operate four flights weekly from Kingston and services will include two checked bags, free meals on all flights, and service in all cabins. "
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 73): Way too ambitious...There is reason we have two international airports..The best thing IMO is to use the domestic carriers to funnel traffic between the Boscobel and MBJ/KIN
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 75, posted (4 months 1 week 18 hours ago) and read 10507 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 74): ' Operations are set to begin on January 25 with the inaugural flight scheduled for New York.
Fly Jamaica will operate four flights weekly from Kingston and services will include two checked bags, free meals on all flights, and service in all cabins. "
Looks like GEO and
Tai revealed plans to to acquire an additional aircraft by year-end to bring its fleet to two. The company, which already owns a Boeing 757 aircraft, came under heavy scrutiny and was thoroughly inspected by the JCAA to ensure that the required support systems and services were in place. Fly Jamaica currently employs more than 60 Jamaicans and will look to expand its crew complement with the additional aircraft.
Seem Fly Jamaica's January 25th inaugural KIN-JFK flight will be a '' charter '' operation of sorts, as their website seems no where near ready.....that is if they actually take off come Friday.
Jamaica Queen Airlines still has intentions to establish a KIN base it appears...............
'' A new carrier, which calls itself Jamaica Queen Airlines (JQA), aims to become the latest airline to operate international flights but awaits approval from the Jamaica Civil Aviation Authority (JCAA), Wednesday Business understands.
The airline is currently recruiting core staff, including pilots, engineers and flight attendants, according to its website which also lists Charmaine Russell as its human resource manager.
JQA declined to offer a timeline for the start of operations, saying it depends on regulatory approval. "
There were talks about this carrier some time back. Let us see how all of this will play out if they do eventually get off the ground in the near future. Not sure 4 carriers on a KIN-JFK route for example will be possible. Some one will eventually have to '' call it a day '' and jump ship.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 77, posted (4 months 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 10052 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 76): Seem Fly Jamaica's January 25th inaugural KIN-JFK flight will be a '' charter '' operation of sorts, as their website seems no where near ready.....that is if they actually take off come Friday.
The airline has encountered problems, that has disrupted their inaugural service..
Taken from their website..
To our invaluable customers, well wishers and supporters:
Unfortunately, the plan to have our inaugural flight on Friday January 25, has been disrupted.
The operation of this flight was contingent on the bookings made on our website, but regrettably, a test run of the site revealed some technical problems that threatened the scheduled launch of the site; the effect of which resulted in persons being unable to complete bookings.
You will be duly informed of the new scheduled date. In the interim, feel free to contact us at 1-855-4flyjm. We look forward to taking your calls and addressing your queries.
We give you assurance that every effort is being made to rectify these glitches, and we thank you for your patience.
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 76): There were talks about this carrier some time back. Let us see how all of this will play out if they do eventually get off the ground in the near future. Not sure 4 carriers on a KIN-JFK route for example will be possible. Some one will eventually have to '' call it a day '' and jump ship.
Am hoping to see this carrier come to fruition..Its about time we have more Jamaican branded carriers to serve our diaspora...
It will be a bloodbath as the first to pull are non Jamaican carriers..
JM017 From Jamaica, joined Jun 2002, 1222 posts, RR: 1 Reply 78, posted (4 months 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9996 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 77): Unfortunately, the plan to have our inaugural flight on Friday January 25, has been disrupted.
The operation of this flight was contingent on the bookings made on our website, but regrettably, a test run of the site revealed some technical problems that threatened the scheduled launch of the site; the effect of which resulted in persons being unable to complete bookings.
I wondered....as far as i could tell, their website was never up, so it was unclear how exactly there were going to book passengers for travel. To be honest, I am not surprised that the this flight had to be scrapped.
"It's okay to cheat, if you just really don't like to lose."
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 79, posted (4 months 1 day 12 hours ago) and read 9945 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 77): The airline has encountered problems, that has disrupted their inaugural service..
Taken from their website..
Quoting JM017 (Reply 78): I wondered....as far as i could tell, their website was never up, so it was unclear how exactly there were going to book passengers for travel. To be honest, I am not surprised that the this flight had to be scrapped.
Personally I feel they need to ease up on the inaugural announcement dates until they have fully ironed out all their issues, including a fully operational website. Many will be of the view that these multiple start up delays etc. are indications of what is to come, which is not a good public perception to have particularly for a new start up carrier.
Also there seem to be some conflicting reports as the local papers has it that the inaugural is still on for tomorrow.............
'' KINGSTON, Jamaica — Fly Jamaica, the new local airline, is to make its first commercial flight tomorrow.
The airline, which has 80 employees, will operate a single Boeing 757-200 aircraft. Its first flight will be to the JFK Airport in New York. ''
yankeejuliet From Jamaica, joined Sep 2008, 158 posts, RR: 0 Reply 81, posted (4 months 1 day 10 hours ago) and read 9900 times:
Fly Jamaica needs to advertise their services with proper contact numbers and Email address..This launch seems to be shrouded in secrecy. One public announcement was made along with much fanfare and start date. Suddenly the start up is doubtful and the mystery and suspense continues.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 83, posted (4 months 17 hours ago) and read 9817 times:
More info regarding FlyJam's delay..
In other news I heard they shot their soon to be released media commercial this week..
Quote: Jamaica's newest carrier Fly Jamaica will not take to the skies on its inaugural flight today, January 25, as was announced seven days ago.
It is not clear when the airline will now take flight; however, it has cited its booking system as the reason for the disruption. The carrier's first flight was scheduled to depart for the John F. Kennedy International Airport, New York, from the Norman Manley International Airport today.
In a message to customers on their Facebook page on Tuesday, Fly Jamaica said: "The operation of this flight was contingent on the bookings made on our website but regrettably, a test run of the site revealed some technical problems that threatened the scheduled launch of the site; the effect of which resulted in persons being unable to complete bookings."
In the interim, the airline has asked passengers to contact them at 1-855-4flyjam. However, calls made to that number went straight to an automated voice message which disconnected shortly after.
Quote: "We had received some approval but there were changes that had to be made and we are waiting on them (JFK) to come back to us," said Chief Operating Officer, Lloyd Tai.
Tai said the matter will be resolved shortly and the public will be informed of the new date that Fly Jamaica Airways will officially take to the skies.
This is very bad on the part of FlyJam and can make one wonder how competent the personnel of this airline is. I hope they can still correct these very crucial things.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 85, posted (3 months 4 weeks 1 day 18 hours ago) and read 9663 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 84): This is very bad on the part of FlyJam and can make one wonder how competent the personnel of this airline is. I hope they can still correct these very crucial things.
Cpt Tai explained the reason behind their delay..
Delays in the completion of arrangements with US Customs and Border patrol, as well as a change of terminals, are being blamed for the delay of Fly Jamaica Airways' launch flight to New York.
The airline's Chief Operating Officer, Captain Lloyd Tai, told RJR News, that the airline had originally received clearance to end its journey at Terminal Four at the JFK International Airport, but due to limited capacity, had to change to Terminal One.
But, he explained that Terminal One, was not yet fully prepared to accommodate the flight.
Captain Tai added, that a new date has not been set for the launch, but he expects it to be soon.
Not bad for B6 on this popular route for the period.
** I understand that the new control tower construction is on in full earnest at Norman Manley International Airport in Kingston. Can't wait to see the completed structure.
A booking system that doesn't work is a minor issue and we also have travel agents not knowing how to book with FlyJam. Yes, you're right, "minor" issues
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 90, posted (3 months 3 weeks 5 days 12 hours ago) and read 9372 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 89): A booking system that doesn't work is a minor issue and we also have travel agents not knowing how to book with FlyJam. Yes, you're right, "minor" issues
You cant sell tickets, without having the necessary slot times to operate your flights...
Better not to sell until the issues with JFK are resolved...
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9080 posts, RR: 13 Reply 91, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 9293 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 90): Better not to sell until the issues with JFK are resolved...
So wait, you want to start selling tickets when the JFK issue is cleared up. So once that issue is solved, you can start flying immediately. No wait, you can't even sell tickets without a booking system in place. FlyJam can start flying empty aircraft to JFK if their booking system isn't in place.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 92, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 18 hours ago) and read 9274 times:
Today is definitely news day..
I don't believe the article was worded properly, but Tourism Director, John Lynch is now urging United Airlines to operate service to KIN from one of their US based hubs..
Quote: MONTEGO BAY, St James - DIRECTOR of Tourism John Lynch is urging the United Statesbased United Airlines to consider opening up a hub between Kingston and at least one US state.
“For us who are residents in Kingston, United should really look at flying into Kingston. You need to come to Kingston. It is another part of the island and is the capital, so you really should consider that route,” Lynch urged United’s representatives.
The director of tourism was giving a brief address to United’s senior representatives, guests and tourism stakeholders at a cocktail reception held at the Ritz Carlton Resort in Montego Bay, last Friday. The event was held in celebration of United Airlines’ 10th anniversary of offering service between Montego Bay and the US.
And responding to Lynch’s challenge, Diana Loaces, United Airlines’ regional sales manager for the Caribbean, said: “United Airlines are always looking at markets, which may have potentials and if we see that they may be profitable we will consider them.”
The newest local air passenger carrier, Jamaica Queen Airlines (JQA), will be seeking to fly to the United States and The Bahamas operating a fleet of eight Airbus planes, according to a statement of intent to the Jamaica Civil Aviation Authority (JCAA).
Although the airline has communicated its intentions to the JCAA, it is yet to formally apply for a licence, but it is currently seeking to recruit a chief executive officer. However, a spokesman declined to confirm much else.
Derby said, "The pre-application statement of intent indicates JQA wishes to perform scheduled international air transport operations from Kingston to Miami, Fort Lauderdale, Baltimore, New York, Philadelphia, Orlando and Nassau."
He added that the pre-application statement indicates the fleet size of four A320 and four A321 aircraft.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 94, posted (3 months 3 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 9167 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 92): I don't believe the article was worded properly, but Tourism Director, John Lynch is now urging United Airlines to operate service to KIN from one of their US based hubs..
Very poor journalism indeed with the article not being worded accurately. But the long and short of the story is that Mr. Lynch would like UA to operate a flight into KIN from one of their major US gateways. It would be great if this could materialize but I am not certain this will happen any time soon. I cant see ORD-KIN, EWR-KIN, CLE-KIN, DEN-KIN, IAD-KIN, SFO-KIN, LAX-KIN or IAH-KIN as profitable routes for UA to consider. Especially with all the challenges airlines the world over are facing now with oil prices, fierce competition etc. One may recall the many failed attempts by CO to get EWR-KIN to work nonstop, or even as an extension to their EWR-MBJ route back then. If it wasn't for the mixture of leisure passengers on their existing routes into MBJ, then UA would have quite a challenge operating those as well.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 92): The newest local air passenger carrier, Jamaica Queen Airlines (JQA), will be seeking to fly to the United States and The Bahamas operating a fleet of eight Airbus planes, according to a statement of intent to the Jamaica Civil Aviation Authority (JCAA).
Very interesting. Lets see what will transpire in the near future. They intend to operate to former JM destinations I see. The only difference here being they seem to be aiming at a KIN to USA operations only. Time will tell how this will all play out.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 88): Am impressed with the stats for KIN...I expect traffic to grow by 2-5% in 2013..
B6 have blossomed on FLL-KIN quite nicely.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 88): Jamaica has taken the international arena with the new Volkswagen commercial...
One of the best commercials I have ever seen. Cracks me up every time I view it...Lol....Great exposure for brand Jamaica and I am certain this ad will inspire more visitors to consider the island for their next vacation getaway. Ironically many non Jamaicans are up in arms over it, saying its racist etc. Jamaicans for the most part however have warmly embraced it....
One of the best commercials I have ever seen. Cracks me up every time I view it...Lol....Great exposure for brand Jamaica and I am certain this ad will inspire more visitors to consider the island for their next vacation getaway. Ironically many non Jamaicans are up in arms over it, saying its racist etc. Jamaicans for the most part however have warmly embraced it....
I didn't know about this commercial, very funny indeed LOL
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 97, posted (3 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 8981 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 93): Guys, this is from my older archives, hope you like it:
Great rainy weather shot. As I have said in the past, these conditions really make for some excellent photo opportunities, particularly with the reflections on the tarmac. Incidentally that A321 ( Spirit Of May Pen ) was the same aircraft that made an emergency landing with me in EWR back in 2002. Flew home on it the following day without any further issues. Great memories.
Quoting A388 (Reply 96): I didn't know about this commercial, very funny indeed LOL
Hot topic here in Jamaica and overseas. But 9 out of 10 locals like it as far as I can see. Not sure what the big deal is about it. I like it.....
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9080 posts, RR: 13 Reply 98, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 8911 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 97): Great rainy weather shot. As I have said in the past, these conditions really make for some excellent photo opportunities, particularly with the reflections on the tarmac. Incidentally that A321 ( Spirit Of May Pen ) was the same aircraft that made an emergency landing with me in EWR back in 2002. Flew home on it the following day without any further issues. Great memories.
You are absolutely right, rainy conditions (and snowy conditions) can result in very nice photos
You don't see snow but you do see how the white color of the snow reflects on the aircraft.
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 97): Hot topic here in Jamaica and overseas. But 9 out of 10 locals like it as far as I can see. Not sure what the big deal is about it. I like it.....
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 99, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 8895 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 94): Very poor journalism indeed with the article not being worded accurately. But the long and short of the story is that Mr. Lynch would like UA to operate a flight into KIN from one of their major US gateways. It would be great if this could materialize but I am not certain this will happen any time soon. I cant see ORD-KIN, EWR-KIN, CLE-KIN, DEN-KIN, IAD-KIN, SFO-KIN, LAX-KIN or IAH-KIN as profitable routes for UA to consider. Especially with all the challenges airlines the world over are facing now with oil prices, fierce competition etc. One may recall the many failed attempts by CO to get EWR-KIN to work nonstop, or even as an extension to their EWR-MBJ route back then. If it wasn't for the mixture of leisure passengers on their existing routes into MBJ, then UA would have quite a challenge operating those as well.
The only possible route I see is KIN-EWR, but UA will have to invest in heavy marketing amongst the local media and Travel Agencies..KIN-EWR will also provide connections to the US Northeast and Canada..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 94): Very interesting. Lets see what will transpire in the near future. They intend to operate to former JM destinations I see. The only difference here being they seem to be aiming at a KIN to USA operations only. Time will tell how this will all play out.
Cant wait to see them soar...Nice to see a second local based carrier, trying to serve the diaspora..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 94): One of the best commercials I have ever seen. Cracks me up every time I view it...Lol....Great exposure for brand Jamaica and I am certain this ad will inspire more visitors to consider the island for their next vacation getaway. Ironically many non Jamaicans are up in arms over it, saying its racist etc. Jamaicans for the most part however have warmly embraced it....
I have embraced the commercial as it is free publicity for Jamaica....Am pretty sure the tourism industry will see a huge surge in future bookings, once this commercial hits the air..
beeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1693 posts, RR: 0 Reply 100, posted (3 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 8869 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 85): Cpt Tai explained the reason behind their delay..
Delays in the completion of arrangements with US Customs and Border patrol, as well as a change of terminals, are being blamed for the delay of Fly Jamaica Airways' launch flight to New York.
The airline's Chief Operating Officer, Captain Lloyd Tai, told RJR News, that the airline had originally received clearance to end its journey at Terminal Four at the JFK International Airport, but due to limited capacity, had to change to Terminal One.
But, he explained that Terminal One, was not yet fully prepared to accommodate the flight.
Captain Tai added, that a new date has not been set for the launch, but he expects it to be soon.
Please this is nonsense JFK will make room for anyone coming there especially T4 which is the only terminal that has 24 hour customs. They need to get their sales and marketing in place.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9080 posts, RR: 13 Reply 101, posted (3 months 2 weeks 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 8703 times:
Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 100): Please this is nonsense JFK will make room for anyone coming there especially T4 which is the only terminal that has 24 hour customs. They need to get their sales and marketing in place.
Yes, hummingbird is trying to blame everything on JFK while that is the least of their problems. FlyJamaica just started badly and I wonder how long this venture will last.
Most likely not even as long as Ezjet did, given how competitive the KIN market is. These guys missed the bus. Shortly after AJ was clsoed down and BW replaced them there was wide spread discontent among Jamaicans about losing their national icon. Now that people have come to terms with this few will rush to an airline merely because it is Jamaican, if they feel that its not run properly.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 103, posted (3 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 8551 times:
The new piece of Jamaica is all set to fly..FlyJamaica's website is now up and running for bookings..The inaugural flight is now set for Feb 14..Let us " Yardies" embrace our new national icon..
Credit must be given to these people for there efforts and I sincerely wish them success. They know that they have the overwhelming support of Jamaicans all over.
yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5194 posts, RR: 2 Reply 105, posted (3 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 8510 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 92): The newest local air passenger carrier, Jamaica Queen Airlines (JQA),
Another week another Jamaican Airline. You guys are sprouting airlines faster than I can keep track of
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 94): IAH-KIN as profitable routes for UA to consider.
IAH-KIN could work.....UA has enough feed from the west coast etc to be able to fill a 73G daily to KIN at IAH.....IAH would be a natural connecting point for Jamaicans heading home from LAX, SFO, SEA etc....even YVR. Most of KINs USA service is from the east coast.....so this could work.
And don't forget there is a sizeable Jamaican community in Houston.
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
yankeejuliet From Jamaica, joined Sep 2008, 158 posts, RR: 0 Reply 106, posted (3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8487 times:
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 105):
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 92):
The newest local air passenger carrier, Jamaica Queen Airlines (JQA),
Another week another Jamaican Airline. You guys are sprouting airlines faster than I can
Jamaica needs an airline like JQA to recapture the its share of the vfr and tourist market which the successors of JM dropped due to their inability to put proper marketing strategies in place. Routes such as BWI, PHL, LAX, ORD,ATL, IAH needs to be restored. JQA seem to recognise this need and intends to commence service with Airbus equipment.
yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5194 posts, RR: 2 Reply 107, posted (3 months 2 weeks 5 days 11 hours ago) and read 8475 times:
Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 106): JQA seem to recognise this need and intends to commence service with Airbus equipment.
I love how everyone thinks they can run an airline.......while very few of us can.
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
All the routes that you mention, other than LAX, have already been covered by US carriers. Where is the need for JQA when many have doubts even about FJ? When JM ran those routes, were they money makers? I remember frequent suggestions that JM focus on the MIA/FLL/JFK routes and abandon the others. While there might be a VFR segment in some of these routes the question will be whether the market is large enough, or whether it can sustain a VFR oriented route during the 9 nonpeak months of the year.
And there is absolutely NO WAY that the leisure market is jumping on some unknown carrier, not when most people make their own bookings, and its unlikely that a travel wholesaler will use a carrier with limited brand recognition, unless it is at some knock down unsustainable rates.
While Air J did enjoy a strong following, remember that it built this over decades and was sustained by the Govt of Ja during lean times. FJ and JQA will not enjoy this loyalty in the beginning, and indeed the stops and starts of BOTH acrriers might even lead the few who know of them to be quite skeptical.
Not to say that BW enjoys loyalty. Of course not. But I dont know that any carrier willl gain what JM used to have.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 109, posted (3 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 8405 times:
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 105): IAH-KIN could work.....UA has enough feed from the west coast etc to be able to fill a 73G daily to KIN at IAH.....IAH would be a natural connecting point for Jamaicans heading home from LAX, SFO, SEA etc....even YVR. Most of KINs USA service is from the east coast.....so this could work.
And don't forget there is a sizeable Jamaican community in Houston.
There is a sizable Jamaican community in Houston but at the same time it sure isn't like your typical JFK-KIN, YYZ-KIN or a FLL-KIN market. If IAH-KIN was such a low hanging fruit, why back then didn't CO hop onto it with daily nonstop flights ? Why aren't the now merged UA operating it with daily flights since as it is such a lucrative sector ? Sure Jamaicans could easily connect to KIN via IAH from the west coast. But the question is how many Jamaicans reside in SEA, YVR etc. to justify a IAH-KIN daily nonstop by UA ? Even if they ever decided to attempt that route ( which I doubt very much ) I am certain it would not be a daily operation. As for the majority of KIN's USA service being from the East Coast, there is a reason for that
yellowtail From United States of America, joined Jun 2005, 5194 posts, RR: 2 Reply 110, posted (3 months 2 weeks 4 days 19 hours ago) and read 8358 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 109): But the question is how many Jamaicans reside in SEA, YVR etc. to justify a IAH-KIN daily nonstop by UA ?
Surely enough to fill a 73G daily. If it can work for POS, SJU, MBJ and GCM...it can work for KIN.
When in doubt, hold on to your altitude. No-one has ever collided with the sky.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9080 posts, RR: 13 Reply 111, posted (3 months 2 weeks 4 days 17 hours ago) and read 8333 times:
Heey guys,
I saw the Jamaican Volkswagen commercial this past weekend on tv during a commercial break of the Super Bowl game!!! Hilarious to see it on a big screen!!! I laugh a lot at the part where the man says something like: "You gotta turn the frog the other way around" and how he uses his hands to explain it LOL
A little rough around the edges but I suppose they're waiting until they drum up something of a following before rolling out a proper website. The website incorporates pictures of aircraft they don't currently fly (ie an A330) and a business class product I'm sure they don't actually have. For the length of time they had to construct a website one would think conveying a strong corporate image (wi mean business!) would be a priority. That's all of course just IMHO. I do hope for them all the best though and would love for them to flourish. If this JQA is to be taken seriously I see a "merger" of efforts with Fly Jamaica as a pre-requisite.
westindian425 From United States of America, joined May 2004, 1008 posts, RR: 2 Reply 113, posted (3 months 2 weeks 4 days 15 hours ago) and read 8299 times:
Quoting A388 (Reply 111): I saw the Jamaican Volkswagen commercial this past weekend on tv during a commercial break of the Super Bowl game!!! Hilarious to see it on a big screen!!! I laugh a lot at the part where the man says something like: "You gotta turn the frog the other way around" and how he uses his hands to explain it LOL
Best part is:
"You're from Minnesota, right?"
"Yes, I! De land ah TEN TOUSAND LAKES!!!"
I laugh so hard every time I see that part!
As for UA service to KIN, it's quite possible. However, you can't compare POS to KIN, since POS-IAH is a money maker for the oil/business community. If there was such a prospect in KIN, UA would jump all over that. This is not to say it's not possible, and I think BW could look into such a route as well.
Isn't it about time BW looks into joining an alliance already?!
God did not create aircraft pilots to be on the ground
Remember that POS is an oil and gas destination so gets lots of travel connected to that. MBJ and GCM are leisure markets. SJU attracts many types of travelers, due to the strong business and other ties with the USA.
When JM flew out of IAH they didnt do direct to KIN. And that route didnt work for them once UA jumped on, so clearly the connections to KIN were not worth keeping the route..
When folks think about whether routes are viable or not, they must think not only Dec and Jul/Aug, but those rather weak months like May and Sept/Oct. Any way Jcans and other Caribbean people who live in "remote" areas (any where other than the East Coast), are accustomed to making connections as they know that the market is too thin to justify year round service.
I might more see IAD KIN working. ATL KIN failed, even though there is a substantial Jcan community there, as did ATL POS and ATL BGI.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 115, posted (3 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 8191 times:
Quoting jm079 (Reply 104): Credit must be given to these people for there efforts and I sincerely wish them success.
Ditto.
Quoting A388 (Reply 98): You are absolutely right, rainy conditions (and snowy conditions) can result in very nice photos
See my snowy versions here:
The snow reflection does create quite an effect on those aircraft and make for great photos indeed.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 99): The only possible route I see is KIN-EWR, but UA will have to invest in heavy marketing amongst the local media and Travel Agencies..KIN-EWR will also provide connections to the US Northeast and Canada..
I am not so certain about that. Believe it or not, the Jamaican population in Seattle, Vancouver, Portland, Salt Lake City etc. is no where near the numbers that are in cities such as New York/Newark, Fort Lauderdale, Miami etc.
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 110): If it can work for POS, SJU, MBJ and GCM...it can work for KIN.
Not necessarily. As others have rightfully stated, IAH-POS works well as a result of the oil/business traffic that the route command. SJU works as a result of the mixture of traffic ( leisure/business/USA ties ) while MBJ and GCM are predominantly leisure. Had it not been for the leisure mix, IAH-MBJ probably wouldn't be around as I am certain UA would opt for a more lucrative sector. Though there is a sizable Jamaican community in the Houston area, I am not convinced it is large enough to warrant a daily year round flight into KIN.
Quoting A388 (Reply 111): I laugh a lot at the part where the man says something like: "You gotta turn the frog the other way around" and how he uses his hands to explain it LOL
He was telling her to turn the frown the other way around ( to transform it into a smile ) The ad is a master piece. Simple but creative.
Don't get me wrong. It would be nice to have UA operating IAH-KIN non stop daily year round, as Norman Manley International is an under utilized airport, and the service would be much welcome. But I have my doubts about the demand for such a service. If it should ever materialize, I predict it would be less than daily, and very short lived.
Quoting guyanam (Reply 114): When JM flew out of IAH they didnt do direct to KIN. And that route didnt work for them once UA jumped on, so clearly the connections to KIN were not worth keeping the route..
JM had up to 6x weekly IAH-MBJ flights at one point, and not one of them was ever routed IAH-KIN. Also it was no surprise that they dropped it when then CO started it. Likewise it was no surprise that CO opted for IAH-MBJ as opposed to IAH-KIN, in order to capitalize on the leisure/vfr mix.
Quoting guyanam (Reply 114): When folks think about whether routes are viable or not, they must think not only Dec and Jul/Aug, but those rather weak months like May and Sept/Oct.
Agree.
Quoting guyanam (Reply 114): ATL KIN failed, even though there is a substantial Jcan community there
That in itself speaks volume, considering also the plethora of connections that can be made on DL via ATL, in addition to the sizable Jamaican population there. No surprise that they too decided to channel their energy on ATL-MBJ instead.
Quoting jm079 (Reply 104): Credit must be given to these people for there efforts and I sincerely wish them success. They know that they have the overwhelming support of Jamaicans all over.
Despite the service and technical hiccups, there is still a strong local support for their service.Only 7 days away from the inaugural service...
Quoting yankeejuliet (Reply 106): Jamaica needs an airline like JQA to recapture the its share of the vfr and tourist market which the successors of JM dropped due to their inability to put proper marketing strategies in place. Routes such as BWI, PHL, LAX, ORD,ATL, IAH needs to be restored. JQA seem to recognise this need and intends to commence service with Airbus equipment.
Cant wait to see their fleet of airbus in KIN and MBJ..I do hope they seek the support of The JHTA..
Quoting Speedbird2263 (Reply 112): A little rough around the edges but I suppose they're waiting until they drum up something of a following before rolling out a proper website. The website incorporates pictures of aircraft they don't currently fly (ie an A330) and a business class product I'm sure they don't actually have. For the length of time they had to construct a website one would think conveying a strong corporate image (wi mean business!) would be a priority. That's all of course just IMHO. I do hope for them all the best though and would love for them to flourish. If this JQA is to be taken seriously I see a "merger" of efforts with Fly Jamaica as a pre-requisite.
Personally, I don't see a merger..What if forsee is FlyJam focused on KIN, while JQA will be focused on the MBJ market..
Quoting guyanam (Reply 114): When JM flew out of IAH they didnt do direct to KIN. And that route didnt work for them once UA jumped on, so clearly the connections to KIN were not worth keeping the route..
The MBJ-IAH route was focused on the MBJ leisure market..At no point was it geared towards the KIN market..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 115):
Don't get me wrong. It would be nice to have UA operating IAH-KIN non stop daily year round, as Norman Manley International is an under utilized airport, and the service would be much welcome. But I have my doubts about the demand for such a service. If it should ever materialize, I predict it would be less than daily, and very short lived.
I agree, but seeing The JHTA is behind this move, I would not be surprised to hear an announcement soon..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 115): That in itself speaks volume, considering also the plethora of connections that can be made on DL via ATL, in addition to the sizable Jamaican population there. No surprise that they too decided to channel their energy on ATL-MBJ instead.
I do hope to see a KIN-ATL service in the near future..
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9080 posts, RR: 13 Reply 118, posted (3 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 8092 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 115): He was telling her to turn the frown the other way around ( to transform it into a smile ) The ad is a master piece. Simple but creative.
Oops my bad, I don't speak Jamaican so I misunderstood what the man said. Thanks for the correction (and a bit embarassing understanding for me in this thread). I thaught he said "frog"
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 119, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 8019 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 116): The MBJ-IAH route was focused on the MBJ leisure market..At no point was it geared towards the KIN market..
99% of the time that flight originated and terminated in MBJ. Rarely it ever even continued on to KIN and when it did, it was primarily for aircraft positioning/connections.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 116): seeing The JHTA is behind this move, I would not be surprised to hear an announcement soon..
That is probably the only way I see them giving IAH-KIN a shot. But time will tell if they do decide to operate that route and hopefully they will be able to keep it if they eventually do.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 116): I do hope to see a KIN-ATL service in the near future..
Would be great if DL could manage to get that route to work.
** Heard on the news last night that AA 826 from ORD made an emergency landing at MBJ. Not certain if this incident happened on Wednesday or Thursday but they had some sort of flap problem/indication. They made a safe landing none the less.
Here is also one depicting the making of it, with the photographers in Jamaica. Some great scenery at beginning with city Kingston, rural Jamaica and the local cuisine etc being highlighted.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 120, posted (3 months 2 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 7971 times:
DOT Stats July 2012.
MBJ
BW
FLL-MBJ
9548-6522 68%
MBJ-FLL
4774-4254 89%
JFK-MBJ
6160-5901 96%
MBJ-JFK
6160-5861 95%
AA
DFW-MBJ
5600-5294 95%
MBJ-DFW
5440-5212 96%
MIA-MBJ
16656-15842 95%
MBJ-MIA
16464-15226 92%
ORD-MBJ
1326-1232 93%
MBJ-ORD
1326-1269 96%
B6
JFK-MBJ
9300-8823 95%
MBJ-JFK
9300-8876 95%
MCO-MBJ
4650-4099 88%
MBJ-MCO
4650-4174 90%
DL
ATL-MBJ
22152-20937 95%
MBJ-ATL
21975-20654 94%
JFK-MBJ
712-682 96%
MBJ-JFK
712-649 91%
F9
ORD-MBJ
1512-1329 88%
MBJ-ORD
1512-1351 89%
STL-MBJ
1104-979 89%
MBJ-STL
1104-987 89%
NK
FLL-MBJ
5518-4672 85%
MBJ-FLL
5340-4677 88%
SY
DFW-MBJ
1458-948 65%
MBJ-DFW
1458-983 67%
UA
EWR-MBJ
3548-3382 95%
MBJ-EWR
3554-3413 96%
IAD-MBJ
564-504 89%
MBJ-IAD
558-521 93%
IAH-MBJ
5531-5152 93%
MBJ-IAH
5525-5101 92%
ORD-MBJ
414-391 94%
MBJ-ORD
564-505 90%
US
CLT-MBJ
15810-14707 93%
MBJ-CLT
15627-14553 93%
PHL-MBJ
11058-10477 95%
MBJ-PHL
11065-10326 93%
FL
ATL-MBJ
4247-3667 86%
MBJ-ATL
4247-3888 92%
BWI-MBJ
5480-4898 89%
MBJ-BWI
5480-4710 86%
MCO-MBJ
4247-3427 81%
MBJ-MCO
4247-3160 74%
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 119): That is probably the only way I see them giving IAH-KIN a shot. But time will tell if they do decide to operate that route and hopefully they will be able to keep it if they eventually do.
I agree..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 119): Here is also one depicting the making of it, with the photographers in Jamaica. Some great scenery at beginning with city Kingston, rural Jamaica and the local cuisine etc being highlighted.
WS will increase flights to KIN and MBJ for summer 2013..
Toronto – Kingston Service increases from 3 weekly to 4 weekly..
Toronto – Montego Bay Service increases from 8 weekly to 10 weekly..
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AA will make changes to their Jamaican ops for summer 2013..
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9080 posts, RR: 13 Reply 123, posted (3 months 1 week 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7668 times:
Hey guys,
In you're interested, Insel Air has recently also sent their Fokker 50's to KIN. This is done if the load factor is sufficient to warrant a Fokker 50 instead of the larger MD80.
beeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1693 posts, RR: 0 Reply 125, posted (3 months 1 week 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 7538 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 124): In tribute to the old JM..Now we have the new replacing the old..
Anyone has a color pic to the black & white with the DC9 and crew
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 124):
A new day has dawn in The Jamaican Aviation Industry..
Congrats to Fly Jamaica Airways glad to see them fly. Think I will try and start an airline would I get Jamaican support ?
Fly- Jamaica will be using the "OJ" codes going forward and Toronto will be there next destination.
Air Canada has added additional capacity to there YYZ MBJ with an extra saturday departure till mid april. Its an ideal connection for those passenger coming from the west coast as AC986 will arrive at MBJ at 10:35a
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 129, posted (3 months 1 week 1 day 4 hours ago) and read 7407 times:
Quoting jm079 (Reply 128): Fly- Jamaica will be using the "OJ" codes going forward and Toronto will be there next destination.
So now there will be 4 carriers competing on the YYZ-KIN route. Will be interesting to see the eventual outcome.
Quoting jm079 (Reply 128): Air Canada has added additional capacity to there YYZ MBJ with an extra saturday departure till mid april. Its an ideal connection for those passenger coming from the west coast as AC986 will arrive at MBJ at 10:35a
Did AC usually operate this extra rotation to MBJ from YYZ during peak periods ? Good that passengers have added options on that sector on Saturdays for the winter season.
Not that I can recall as in all cases there is usually a switch in equipment to a larger plane but in this instances we are seeing an additional flight.
West jet, I notice also has a PM flight out of YYZ to MBJ which is timed for a good connection for west coast passengers.
Its going to be an interesting situation for the carriers on the KIN to YYZ route - Caribbean Airlines, Fly Jamaica , Air Canada and Westjet. Jamaicans will support there own and that is something that these people at Fly Jamaica realize thus there strategy to offer the amenities that Jamaicans have come to expect. Lets see how the other carriers respond.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 132, posted (3 months 1 week 3 hours ago) and read 7238 times:
Quoting jm079 (Reply 130): West jet, I notice also has a PM flight out of YYZ to MBJ which is timed for a good connection for west coast passengers.
Myself took note of WS's afternoon YYZ-MBJ flight which allows for added options/connections. Their growth in Jamaica is nothing short of impressive.
Quoting jm079 (Reply 130): Jamaicans will support there own and that is something that these people at Fly Jamaica realize thus there strategy to offer the amenities that Jamaicans have come to expect. Lets see how the other carriers respond.
Passengers it seem were very pleased with their OJ inaugural flight......................
'' Passengers who were among the first to book seats on the inaugural flight gave the airline high marks for its initial performance. They commented on the courtesy of the flight attendants, the allowance of two free pieces of luggage, and the decision to serve an in-flight meal of the Jamaican national dish of ackee and saltfish. ''
Local cuisine and 2 free checked bags will be a big marketing arsenal for them which will appeal to many in the diaspora. They will have to work hard to offer and maintain a reliable service at competitive fares.
Quoting jm079 (Reply 130): Will Fly Jamaica add another 757 to the fleet
Quoting JM017 (Reply 131): Someone in a post above noted that they planned to acquire another 757 later this year. I am not sure if this means by summer.
Last report I heard was that another B757 will be added some time this year.
I also see that Guyana is asking OJ to post a bond and submit a financial statement before approval is considered but are those requirements be applied selectively or is it a requirement for all carriers who intent to operate there.
Will Rodgers, the former VP of JM has joined Fly Jamaica Airways as a consultant/
Are there 757s currently available on the market.
The soft launch that they did is quite interesting as I think the real test will be in summer when a lot Jamaicans will be traveling so the idea of launching now and build momentum will definitely works. They say they are going after the a certain segment of the market which is no longer being served.
A388 From Netherlands Antilles, joined May 2001, 9080 posts, RR: 13 Reply 134, posted (3 months 6 days 19 hours ago) and read 7169 times:
Guys,
Just saw the NBA All Star Weekend in Houston and Usain Bolt was one of the players to play in the celebrity game East vs. West. I didn't know Usain Bolt was so tall and that he could dunk so well with relative ease it appeared. I think he can jump very high. He is literally everywhere at worldwide events, truly the best marketing tool one can have in my opinion. Good luck to him on further improving his great career and promoting the Jamaica brand
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 135, posted (3 months 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 7171 times:
Quoting jm079 (Reply 128): Air Canada has added additional capacity to there YYZ MBJ with an extra saturday departure till mid april. Its an ideal connection for those passenger coming from the west coast as AC986 will arrive at MBJ at 10:35a
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 129): Did AC usually operate this extra rotation to MBJ from YYZ during peak periods ? Good that passengers have added options on that sector on Saturdays for the winter season.
Yes..During the days when they operated their B742 service, an extra B767 service was added..
Quoting jm079 (Reply 128): Fly- Jamaica will be using the "OJ" codes going forward and Toronto will be there next destination.
Impressive..
Quoting jm079 (Reply 130): West jet, I notice also has a PM flight out of YYZ to MBJ which is timed for a good connection for west coast passengers.
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 132): Myself took note of WS's afternoon YYZ-MBJ flight which allows for added options/connections. Their growth in Jamaica is nothing short of impressive.
Quoting jm079 (Reply 133): WS had four flights today out of YYZ to MBJ.
I saw where they used the B736 on one of the flights..
Also, on Sat, DL operated 9 flights to MBJ. 2ex DTW and MSP...4ex ATL and 1exJFK..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 132): '' Passengers who were among the first to book seats on the inaugural flight gave the airline high marks for its initial performance. They commented on the courtesy of the flight attendants, the allowance of two free pieces of luggage, and the decision to serve an in-flight meal of the Jamaican national dish of ackee and saltfish. ''
Local cuisine and 2 free checked bags will be a big marketing arsenal for them which will appeal to many in the diaspora. They will have to work hard to offer and maintain a reliable service at competitive fares.
Impressive..From what I have seen there is a overwhelming support for their service.
Looks like they will have the support of the tourism community..Perhaps the GOJ can entice FlyJam to operate service to Brazil with revenue guarantees..
Quoting jm079 (Reply 133): I also see that Guyana is asking OJ to post a bond and submit a financial statement before approval is considered but are those requirements be applied selectively or is it a requirement for all carriers who intent to operate there.
Its a new policy that was implemented after the Redjet closure scenario..[/quote]
[quote=jm079,reply=133]Are there 757s currently available on the market.
There are high expectations for FlyJAm..
Aircraft #2 is expected by May and is currently awaiting certification..
There is a contingency plan in place with another carrier in the event their aircraft experience maintenance issues..
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 136, posted (3 months 6 days 2 hours ago) and read 7091 times:
Quoting jm079 (Reply 133): I also see that Guyana is asking OJ to post a bond and submit a financial statement before approval is considered but are those requirements be applied selectively or is it a requirement for all carriers who intent to operate there.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 135): Its a new policy that was implemented after the Redjet closure scenario..
Speaking about Guyana, is there that much of a market between KIN and GEO, particularly for a B752 ?
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 135): Also, on Sat, DL operated 9 flights to MBJ. 2ex DTW and MSP...4ex ATL and 1exJFK..
Not bad at all. Just imagine if MEM-MBJ and CVG-MBJ were also in that DL line up.
I suggest that FJ not bother with Guyana for now. The recent demis of EZjet has made Guyanese very wary of another carrier.
FJ needs to prove itself with Jcans before they spread their wings.
I will also suggest that FJ will have as much difficulty with Guyanese as BW has/had with Jamaicans. With BW doing nonstops to JFK/YYZ much of the animosity towards them from some Guyanese is disappearing.
Only if BW exploits their monopoly on the JFK GEO will space emerge for FJ, and then it will have to be a nonstop.
Also many of those Canada based Guyanese really do not like Jamaicans. Too often I hear them blame every single nagative incident involving Caribbean people in YYZ on "those Jamaicans". Canada based Guyanese tend to be a conservative group.
Most of the traffic between GY and JA are either business or govt/internationalk agency execs. BW dominatesd this group, even thougn it means a change in POS. With daily frequencies BW cannot be beat and a 757 nonstop top GEO is way to much capacity. Maybe 10 passengers daily, if that.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 139, posted (3 months 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6981 times:
Seem March 2014 is the targeted date by which the Norman Manley International Airport ( NMIA ) will be privatized...
'' This development will include the extension and widening of the runway and the establishment of runway end safety areas, all consistent with International Civil Aviation Organisation and Jamaica Civil Aviation Authority safety standards ''
Heard on the news today that Jamaica Air Shuttle ( JAS ) will suspend operations. Not sure of the effective date but according to officials, it is hoped that resumption of flights will happen in the near future. I am sure we will get further details soon.
Here are more details on JAS's suspension............
'' OPERATORS of Jamaica Air Shuttle are putting together a consortium of investors to purchase two 12-seater Beech 99 aircraft they were forced to ground on Monday after the planes' owner pulled out of the business.
Jamaica Air Shuttle, which offers domestic and regional flights, will temporary suspend its operation until that transaction is completed, said the carrier's marketing manager, Deryck Dwyer. ''
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 141, posted (3 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 6789 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 139): Seem March 2014 is the targeted date by which the Norman Manley International Airport ( NMIA ) will be privatized...
'' This development will include the extension and widening of the runway and the establishment of runway end safety areas, all consistent with International Civil Aviation Organisation and Jamaica Civil Aviation Authority safety standards ''
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 140): '' OPERATORS of Jamaica Air Shuttle are putting together a consortium of investors to purchase two 12-seater Beech 99 aircraft they were forced to ground on Monday after the planes' owner pulled out of the business.
Jamaica Air Shuttle, which offers domestic and regional flights, will temporary suspend its operation until that transaction is completed, said the carrier's marketing manager, Deryck Dwyer. ''
I hope they will find local investors to fund their entity....JAS has the potential to connect Ian Flemming with both International Airports..Also, I would love to see them acquire larger props to serve GCM,HAV and SDQ...
Here are more pics of our own Jamaicans who are flying for the success of FlyJamaica..
The carrier started it's New York service today...May God bless and protect this venture..
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 142, posted (3 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 6739 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 141): Also, I would love to see them acquire larger props to serve GCM,HAV and SDQ...
That would be great.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 141): Here are more pics of our own Jamaicans who are flying for the success of FlyJamaica..
The carrier started it's New York service today...May God bless and protect this venture..
Those photographs look great indeed. I think I am already getting used to those uniforms. Staff looking really sharp and professional. Notice a few former JM faces as well Hopefully they will grow from strength to strength. Seats look comfy too.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 144, posted (2 months 3 weeks 6 days 15 hours ago) and read 6445 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 142): Those photographs look great indeed. I think I am already getting used to those uniforms. Staff looking really sharp and professional. Notice a few former JM faces as well Hopefully they will grow from strength to strength. Seats look comfy too.
Quoting speedbird2263 (Reply 143): 1 on the Uniforms! Love it! Exudes color, warmth, tropical, Jamaica....and its classy...not as busy as the past JM uniforms but rather swanky.
I agree..True representation of "Brand Jamaica"...
I assume a mistake was made with this latest OAG filing..
Is BW leaving FLL-MBJ market ??
BW FLL-KIN MAR 1.9>1.2 APR 2>1.0 MAY 2>1.0 JUN 2>1.0 JUL 2>1.0 AUG 2>1.0 SEP 2>1.0 OCT 2>1.0
BW FLL-MBJ MAR 1.0>0.3 APR 1.0>0 MAY 1.0>0 JUN 1.0>0 JUL 1.0>0 AUG 1.0>0 SEP 1.0>0 OCT 1.0>0
Fly Jamaica was recently given the Final Order by DOT..
By Order 2012-11-38, issued November 30, 2012, we directed all interested persons to show cause why we should not make final our tentative findings and conclusions stated therein and award a foreign air carrier permit in the form attached to the Order and subject to the conditions attached thereto. We gave interested persons 21 days to file objections to the Order. We said that if no objections are filed, all further procedural steps shall be deemed waived, and the Department will enter an order (subject to Presidential review under 49 USC §41307) which will make final the findings and conclusions of the Order.
No objections were received within the time period provided
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 146, posted (2 months 2 weeks 5 days 4 hours ago) and read 6060 times:
Quoting speedbird2263 (Reply 143): 1 on the Uniforms! Love it! Exudes color, warmth, tropical, Jamaica....and its classy...not as busy as the past JM uniforms but rather swanky.
Fly Jamaica suffered a windshield crack 15 minutes into their KIN-JFK flight today and had to return to the airport.......
'' Fly Jamaica was forced to return to the gate at the Norman Manley International Airport this morning, 15 minutes in flight, because of a cracked windshield.
Some 56 passengers were en route to New York, John F Kennedy airport.
It is not clear what caused the damage to the aircraft, however, it is a normal occurrence for birds to strike the windshield of an aircraft during flight. ''
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 147, posted (2 months 2 weeks 2 days 14 hours ago) and read 5892 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 146): Fly Jamaica suffered a windshield crack 15 minutes into their KIN-JFK flight today and had to return to the airport.......
I saw where passengers were transferred to BW's flights..
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 149, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 14 hours ago) and read 5591 times:
Not so good news for BW's Jamaica operations..
Am surprised fuel was mentioned as a factor, given their subsidy by the GOTT..
Caribbean Airlines' operations in Jamaica have been hit hard by increased competition on some of its routes as well rising fuel prices.
Clive Forbes, general manager of Caribbean Airlines in Jamaica, has admitted that the entity is trying to remain viable amid what he described as a difficult environment.
Mr. Forbes spoke with the Financial Report last night:
“We face difficult climate, competitive pressure…we continue to fight for market share and, given the nature of the fuel price and everything which eat into our margin and the competitive nature of other routes out of Jamaica and that is where the crunch is coming in.
Caribbean Airlines has shed light on the elimination of 15 flight attendant positions at its Jamaican operations.
The air carrier explained that the attendants were on fixed term contracts and the decision was made not to renew them due to changes in flight schedules. The contracts expired this month.
Yep. BW will now only run 3X on the YYZ KIN and seem to be struggling on the FLL KIN. I predict that BW will effectively shut down its KIN, base, operating only JFK routes. They can no longer afford to sustain losses.
Dont know what the Piarco gallery will say as they cliamed that I "hated" BW when I pointed out their tremendous difficulties on their Jcan operations..
BW messed up big time when they had many seriously delayed flights on their first summer. As they say "first impressions". Even though no doubt they have much improved since then they remain not well liked by the Jcan marketplace.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 151, posted (2 months 1 week 1 day 1 hour ago) and read 5468 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 149): Caribbean Airlines' operations in Jamaica have been hit hard by increased competition on some of its routes as well rising fuel prices.
Quoting guyanam (Reply 150): Dont know what the Piarco gallery will say as they cliamed that I "hated" BW when I pointed out their tremendous difficulties on their Jcan operations..
I don't know about anyone else, but I for one isn't the least surprised by these reports. This was all predicted from day one, though there were some who downplayed the reality that was staring them in the face. Very interesting days are on the horizon.
Quoting guyanam (Reply 150): Even though no doubt they have much improved since then they remain not well liked by the Jcan marketplace.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 149): Thomson Airways will operate the following flights into MBJ:
LGW-MBJ-LGW..Apr 3-Oct26..1 weekly Sat using B763.
MAN-MBJ-MAN..May 1-Oct 30..1 weekly Wed using B763
BHX-MBJ-BHX..May 9-oct 31..1 weekly Thurs using B763
Transaero has filed to use their B772 and B773 aircraft to MBJ between Apr 5 and Oct 22..A total of 20 flights are to be operated during this period..
Great line up. Good to see that Transaero will be around throughout the year.
beeweel15 From United States of America, joined Nov 2003, 1693 posts, RR: 0 Reply 152, posted (2 months 1 week 12 hours ago) and read 5431 times:
Quoting guyanam (Reply 150): Yep. BW will now only run 3X on the YYZ KIN and seem to be struggling on the FLL KIN. I predict that BW will effectively shut down its KIN, base, operating only JFK routes. They can no longer afford to sustain losses.
Dont know what the Piarco gallery will say as they cliamed that I "hated" BW when I pointed out their tremendous difficulties on their Jcan operations..
BW messed up big time when they had many seriously delayed flights on their first summer. As they say "first impressions". Even though no doubt they have much improved since then they remain not well liked by the Jcan marketplace.
Well I agree with what you said BW did do a lot of things wrong in this merger between JM/BW. I myself said early in this BW was treading a very sharp double edge sword cause T&T would have been criticized either way.
hummingbird From Jamaica, joined Mar 2007, 2885 posts, RR: 0 Reply 153, posted (2 months 5 days 16 hours ago) and read 5295 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 151): I don't know about anyone else, but I for one isn't the least surprised by these reports. This was all predicted from day one, though there were some who downplayed the reality that was staring them in the face. Very interesting days are on the horizon.
Am curious to see how they will recover from this loss...Any further expansions from FlyJam will be a further hit to their market share..
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 151): Great line up. Good to see that Transaero will be around throughout the year.
I agree..
Also, KLM/CM have applied to the JCAA for codeshare on flights linking KIN/MBJ-AMS via PTY.
Quoting beeweel15 (Reply 152): Well I agree with what you said BW did do a lot of things wrong in this merger between JM/BW. I myself said early in this BW was treading a very sharp double edge sword cause T&T would have been criticized either way.
I heard the JM livery will be removed from the fleet..
Also, another PR disaster..
The Bustamante Industrial Trade Union (BITU) is calling for the Government%u2019s intervention in a matter where three Jamaican pilots, who are employed to Caribbean Airlines were kicked out of Trinidad and Tobago.
BITU President Senator, Kavan Gayle says about a week ago, the pilots were ordered to leave by Trinidadian officials because their work permits had expired.
However, Senator Gayle says there are signs that the Jamaicans were treated unfairly.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 154, posted (2 months 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 5217 times:
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 153): Any further expansions from FlyJam will be a further hit to their market share..
Fly Jamaica's in-flight meal service and 2 free carry on, it would seem, is getting rave reviews.
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 153): Also, KLM/CM have applied to the JCAA for codeshare on flights linking KIN/MBJ-AMS via PTY.
Interesting. At first I thought KL was planning seasonal flights between AMS and MBJ. With other charter carrier ( s ) on that sector, doubt we will see them on it....Not sure I would enjoy flying down to PTY and then up to AMS though.......
Quoting hummingbird (Reply 153): I heard the JM livery will be removed from the fleet..
I can tell you or rather I should say give it a high probability that within the next 12 or so months CAL will not exist in KIN as it does today. We all know the plethora of problems they put themselves in when they bit off more than they can chew, namely the purchase of ATR's CASH...when they should have been financed. However!, that's all just IMHO
Highly unfortunate for the Jamaicans that are employed with CAL. We only hope that as one door closes another opens(and wider at that). Look for possible changes as soon as summer of this year, that will be the litmus test.
About time! I handled those flights they had summer of 2010 and they were full both ways every day. The yields must not have been in their favor as they eventually resorted to using the CR7/CR9(flown by ASA at the time) and then dropping it entirely only to introduce it again for a brief winter thereafter. Good news as I hope to be able to non-rev home without having to go to MBJ.
airjamaica From Jamaica, joined Aug 2006, 2318 posts, RR: 0 Reply 159, posted (2 months 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 4896 times:
Quoting yellowtail (Reply 156): I hear a rumor that Dl is restarting KIN-ATL Dec 19th...
Quoting JM017 (Reply 157): Yes, it seems to be bookable in the system. Am buying tickets on DL from BWI tomorrow via ATL.
That would be great. Lets see how long they will keep it this time around.......DL is famous for starting/stopping/restarting the aforementioned sector.
Quoting speedbird2263 (Reply 158): The yields must not have been in their favor as they eventually resorted to using the CR7/CR9(flown by ASA at the time) and then dropping it entirely only to introduce it again for a brief winter thereafter.
I remember when I was flying from KIN to ATL back in November 2009 the CR7/CR9 was operating the route. Was considering that option but eventually decided on AA KIN-MIA-ATL-MIA-KIN as the latter proved to be far more cost effective, albeit my dislike for MIA, especially when it involves transferring there. Hopefully DL will keep the route this time around, but I have my doubts. Lets see.
speedbird2263 From Jamaica, joined Jul 2006, 454 posts, RR: 1 Reply 160, posted (2 months 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 4854 times:
Quoting airjamaica (Reply 159): Was considering that option but eventually decided on AA KIN-MIA-ATL-MIA-KIN as the latter proved to be far more cost effective
I remember having do to KIN-MIA-ATL on AA to pick up an aircraft in Georgia back in summer 2011. Quite a few folks on that early morning AA continued on with us to ATL from MIA( I remember Reggae Artiste Alaine being on the flights). I also share the sentiment about MIA....ugh! having to stand in ridiculously long immigration lines and then having to transfer. DL would do well do adjust the equipment and simply do the route year round. Since the NW/DL tie up a year round KIN should be pretty easy given the massive feed and O/D traffic available from ATL.
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And many are seemingly jumping on B6.
Current one isn't appealing at all !! As for the aircraft type, I am a big airbus fan, but I have a strong feeling they will go boeing.
