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Turkish Aviation November 2012  
User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4434 posts, RR: 12
Posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 8761 times:

Hi everyone,
Due to hurricane Sandy, I have no power, water, elevator, bad cell phone service.
I still wanted to start this months thread;
Please excuse the short introduction but I will check back when I can.
Continue here with news, rumors, photos on Turkish aviation.

TK787

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User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25358 posts, RR: 49
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8735 times:

Wishing you and your neighbors a speedy recovery.


Due to Sandy, TK will operate an extra section to JFK on Wednesday - TK5401 using 777 TC-JJG arriving at midnight.



From the desert to the sea, to all of Southern California
User currently offlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 731 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 1 hour ago) and read 8693 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):

Hi everyone,
Due to hurricane Sandy, I have no power, water, elevator, bad cell phone service.
I still wanted to start this months thread;
Please excuse the short introduction but I will check back when I can.
Continue here with news, rumors, photos on Turkish aviation.

TK787

Hats off for your dedication and passion for this thread!

Hope the services are restored quickly and NY/NJ recovers as smoothly as possible! Stay safe!


User currently offlineTurkish350XWB From Switzerland, joined Jan 2009, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks ago) and read 8623 times:

Quoting TK787 (Thread starter):
Due to hurricane Sandy, I have no power, water, elevator, bad cell phone service.

But you have internet... hahahhaa. Wish you the best.

I think the newest is the 3rd airport issue for Istanbul. It has been decided to build it in the north. Phase 1 will have 100 million pax capacity. In the last phase the airport will have 5-6 runways. Opening in 2016 is a miracle as stated by Northstar80. To me, 2020 seems to be more realistic as there is no infrastructure, no plans and the underground is difficult, but i am not a construction guy. The tenders for electronics, the buildings, architecture, roads etc. itself will take at least (!) one year. Construction will start at earliest (!) 2014. It is also possible that legal problems, which is realistic for project of this size, will further delay the construction/opening.

We need a new name for the airport. There can only be one name for the biggest airport in Turkey, (New) Ataturk Airport. Maybe the 3-letter code can be the same? Was the case for HKG and BKK.


User currently offlineju068 From Vanuatu, joined Aug 2009, 2640 posts, RR: 6
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8528 times:
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I think Turkish Airlines should air Turkish series during their flights. I am sure it will help them boost their numbers, especially in the Balkans. 

User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25358 posts, RR: 49
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8527 times:

German Fraport AG with Turkish partner IC Yatirim Holding state they wish to take part in bidding for the new airport.

They estimate the cost to be around 10 billion liras ($5.6USD billion) opening in 2016 with initial annual capacity for 60 million passengers.

IC Yatirim Holding was the previous winner to the tender to build the 3rd Bosphorus bridge, along with new airports in Kuthaya, Ordu and Giresun Turkey plus overseas airport project in St. Petersburg Russia.


IC Holding Considers Bid With Fraport on Istanbul Airport
http://www.businessweek.com/news/201...d-with-fraport-on-istanbul-airport

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User currently offlinecmoltay From Turkey, joined Jun 2007, 132 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8485 times:

Are we absolutely sure the 3rd airport is going to be where the newspapers declared based on the words of K.Topbas? I see no official statement or endorsement on the Municipality web site or the DHMİ web site. I am having a hard time believing that is the final choice, my observations and thoughts leading to this reasoning are as follows:
- The mentioned area east of Terkos seems to require too much landfill and earth moving work to create a site suitable for an airport. The land would surely be cheaper than the Silivri option, but could earthworks and strengthening required be more costly?
- The already built highway that would also connect the airport to the city is 2x2 and does not seem to be up to standard to carry traffic for a 150million pax airport... I know it can be expanded but it was built only last year, if there is a plan to create a northern borough for İstanbul including an airport, why was the connection not planned ahead? Silivri is already connected by two highways, one of which is in the TEM network. A rail connection also seems to be nearer.
- There is a field of wind turbines very near, south west of the mentioned area, could that be a safety issue?
- Isn't the would be biggest airport of the country a strategic asset that should not be placed on the BlackSea coast, widely open to an attack in case of an unrest involving Turkey and the region?


User currently offlineLLA001 From Turkey, joined May 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 12 hours ago) and read 8339 times:

What will happen to current Ataturk Airport once the new airport is open?

User currently offlineTK787 From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 4434 posts, RR: 12
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 5 hours ago) and read 8186 times:

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 3):
But you have internet...

Yes, and no.
Well I had to walk down from the 10th floor apt, then walk across the Williamsburg Bridge to Brooklyn, to find a cafe so I can get online, charge my phone.... Not super bad, but this is day number 4 without power, water, heat...., I have no idea how many more days of this. Many more people are in worse condition/loss, my heart goes out to them.

It is nice to see some LGA bound traffic though today.

Besides the new airport discussions, I would like to add;

-Congrats to TK on ordering 15 each of 333 and 77W and options. I read both might be 20 each when said and done.
-With the new order of 77W we hear that Comfort class might come to and end.
-Also TK is in midst of ordering up to 200 single aisle aircraft. I bet we hear something within the next 6 months if not sooner.
-How about Pegasus? We might hear something lot sooner than TK. They were talking about 100 frames??
-TK transfering 5 planes to SAW. Which brings the question one more time, when do you guys foresee a TK twin aisle serving TK? JFK-SAW one day?
-Starting this month DL leaves IST till May. Besides many other things what happens to DL personel at Istanbul?
-Last month also there was a big discussion about TK eventually serving Australia.


User currently offlineradiopolitic From Canada, joined Jan 2009, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 3 hours ago) and read 8116 times:

http://www.ntvmsnbc.com/id/25394122/

Public consultation meeting for the new airport coming up.

Anyone over there think they can go?


User currently offlineLAXintl From United States of America, joined May 2000, 25358 posts, RR: 49
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 19 hours ago) and read 7964 times:

Here for those that want to see TK in Australia - CEO says they have "less of an appetite" following the EK-QF link up.

Instead it seems TK want to cooperate with a Star airline based in the Far East for such services. (remember that TK-TG already have cooperation covering good joint fares)

http://atwonline.com/airports-routes...es-startup-australia-services-1101

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User currently offlineASA From Bangladesh, joined Dec 2010, 731 posts, RR: 1
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 23 hours ago) and read 7717 times:

Quoting TK787 (Reply 8):
-Congrats to TK on ordering 15 each of 333 and 77W and options. I read both might be 20 each when said and done.

This was indeed a great news for October - congrats to TK on following through on the wide body expansion. In my opinion, this was a much better choice for now than going for VLAs ... i'm sure many of you will agree. Can't wait for TK to pick up new destinations in both Americas and bolster its existing long haul services.

Quoting TK787 (Reply 8):
With the new order of 77W we hear that Comfort class might come to and end.

This, however, was a bummer  

Following many of your posts, sounds like the current Y+ cabin in 77Ws is too big (63 Y+) ... and the demand for J is higher in certain sectors. Hope TK keeps a smaller cabin Y+ and add Js in the front.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 10):

Here for those that want to see TK in Australia - CEO says they have "less of an appetite" following the EK-QF link up. Instead it seems TK want to cooperate with a Star airline based in the Far East for such services. (remember that TK-TG already have cooperation covering good joint fares)

This seems to be a cool headed response as well. No need to burn fuel on ULH flights or provide one-stop SYD services. Maybe a future 787 route?   (if there is a XLR version somewhere along the line)


User currently offlinecuban8 From Kiribati, joined Sep 2009, 270 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7481 times:

Hi everyone,

Long time I didn't comment here. Flights are keeping me busy.....unfortunately even during winter season this year....

Thanks for starting another thread TK787, hope things get better soon in NY and that Sandy doesn't make VX collapse.

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 3):
I think the newest is the 3rd airport issue for Istanbul. It has been decided to build it in the north. Phase 1 will have 100 million pax capacity. In the last phase the airport will have 5-6 runways. Opening in 2016 is a miracle as stated by Northstar80.

Finally it looks like a decision regarding the 3rd airport is about to come to an end. I've also heard that they are considering a 150 million PAX airport in the neighbourhood of Terkos with up to 6 runways when fully operational. The opening by 2016 is not impossible, but from what I heard it would only be one runway and one terminal in use by that time frame, and later on the expansion. I think the Silivri option is completely buried due to high land costs.

Quoting LLA001 (Reply 7):
What will happen to current Ataturk Airport once the new airport is open?

Most probably the new airport, IF located near Terkos, will lead to the end of the present Atatürk airport. If the new airport opens up north of Istanbul near the Black Sea as rumoured, the most logical runway direction would be North/South to avoid crosswind take-offs and landings as well as avoiding overflying Istanbul at low altitude for noise abatement. That would lead to a conflict between the two airports keeping separation between departing and arriving aircrafts. I guess runway 05/23 could still be operated for business jets and/or regional operations.

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 3):
We need a new name for the airport. There can only be one name for the biggest airport in Turkey, (New) Ataturk Airport. Maybe the 3-letter code can be the same?

How about TIA?? Tayyip International Airport.....   


User currently offlineankaraflyjet From Turkey, joined Mar 2007, 267 posts, RR: 1
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 4 hours ago) and read 7442 times:

Turkish PM made very important announcements today;

On a recent visit to Berlin Merkel proposed him for a new partnership of LH and TK. It implies that this will be similar to LH-AC and LH-UA Trans-Atlantic partnership and something that may even go futher than that. Good decision by LH who is afraid of a giant TK that is also aiming to capture LH market in North America over the years. Both are under *A so quite logical;

New Airport in Istanbul will be opened in 2016 and with 150 pax capacity and 6 runways as previously disclosed.

Ataturk Airport will be converted into a Conference and Exhibition Centre as well as a shopping centre with a small runway to accomodate VIP's only. Part of exisitng infrastructure will be utilized.

Last but not least, not specifically aviation related but a huge and modern stadium and sports faciity willl be built replacing the dated 19 May stadium and sports facility in Ankara with a direct passage to train station. Ankara Istanbul high speed train services to commence in Q3 2013. The construction of sports facility will start in 2014 and will be completd in 2016. This will also help increase air pax to ESB given the amount of national and international games to be hosted there.


User currently offlinetozbek From Turkey, joined Jul 2005, 121 posts, RR: 1
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 7377 times:
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Some news stories about Turkish Prime Minister Erdogan's THY-Lufthansa merger:
http://kokpit.aero/erdogan-lufthansa-thy-ortak-isletilebilir

What did THY CEO Temel Kotil said: http://kokpit.aero/temel-kotil-lufthansa-thy-degerlendirdi

My analise about it: http://kokpit.aero/tolga-ozbek-lufthansa-thy-analiz

Sorry all in Turkish  


User currently offlineymincrement From Turkey, joined Jul 2012, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 7125 times:

I think it would be also very nice for TK to learn deep experiences of LH especially in operating wide-bodies..

I am curious about what will be main target and purpose of this partnership..


User currently offlineTurkish350XWB From Switzerland, joined Jan 2009, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 1 day 20 hours ago) and read 6931 times:

News on the 3rd airport:
http://ekonomi.haberturk.com/otomoti...7-3uncu-havalimani-kaca-mal-olacak

Price approx 6.4 bn dollars. parking space for 25.140 cars.

1st phase (operational 2016)
- Two independent runways, separation 2.300 m
- 1.000.000 m2 terminal

2nd phase
- Additional rwy
- 20mn pax satellite terminal

3rd phase:
- 30mn pax terminal
- 4th runway

4th phase:
- 30mn satellite
- 5th runway

This at least gives a rough overview. I am very curious about the terminal and architectural structure... How many air bridges will it have and so on...


User currently offlineLLA001 From Turkey, joined May 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 23 hours ago) and read 6931 times:

Do you know if someone is doing the design work? Who is doing the master planning, architecture, engineering of the airport? If they are going to go for bidding soon they must have some design in their hands, wouldn't they?

User currently offlineTurkish350XWB From Switzerland, joined Jan 2009, 489 posts, RR: 0
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6932 times:

Quoting LLA001 (Reply 17):
Do you know if someone is doing the design work? Who is doing the master planning, architecture, engineering of the airport? If they are going to go for bidding soon they must have some design in their hands, wouldn't they?

Exactly! This is not so easy, it takes a decade. The land is not secured yet. No contractors, no infrastructure. A single terminal is doable within 3 years if the airport is running already, but from scratch... Planning of this cannot be done in one afternoon.


User currently offlineLLA001 From Turkey, joined May 2005, 93 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 6933 times:

Quoting cuban8 (Reply 12):

If they close Ataturk, maybe the build a big shopping mall to the plot  

However with 4 years to go, it will be a tough job to complete the airport, not impossible but hard.

Quoting Turkish350XWB (Reply 18):

There is always the possibility of the project drawn on a napkin by the PM and implented accordingly  


User currently offlineMeCe From Turkey, joined Oct 2009, 170 posts, RR: 0
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 11 hours ago) and read 6927 times:

There is a schedule change for IST - GRU flights, plane arrive at 19.00 to GRU and sits there until next morning 05.00. This change may indicate a time creation for GRU - EZE leg.

User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2979 posts, RR: 0
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 10 hours ago) and read 6926 times:

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 10):
Here for those that want to see TK in Australia - CEO says they have "less of an appetite" following the EK-QF link up.

It never made sense in the first place.

Quoting LAXintl (Reply 10):
Instead it seems TK want to cooperate with a Star airline based in the Far East for such services. (remember that TK-TG already have cooperation covering good joint fares)

This makes much more sense.


User currently offlineTupolev160 From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 8 hours ago) and read 6927 times:

Why the Asian side of the city or the expansion of SAW aren't considered as an option as well?

User currently offlineLuka From Serbia, joined Aug 2006, 185 posts, RR: 2
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6929 times:

Atlasjet apparently wants create an airline serving Bosnia, Albania, Macedonia and Kosovo with base a in Tirana.

http://exyuaviation.blogspot.com/201...in-regional-ex-yu-airline-bid.html

[Edited 2012-11-07 08:39:20]

User currently offlineradiopolitic From Canada, joined Jan 2009, 113 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 hours ago) and read 6929 times:

Quoting LLA001 (Reply 17):

I have the same questions. Very curious and the fact that the details of satellite terminals and capacity are already out to me suggests someone has designed something (whether it has or hasn't been designed well is another matter entirely), however preliminary it may be.

Quoting LLA001 (Reply 19):
There is always the possibility of the project drawn on a napkin by the PM and implented accordingly  

Would not surprise me.


25 Post contains images LAXintl : Revenue, profits, larger network. Sounds reasonable Well we are talking about Turkey now. You should know even the most impossible can happen in Turk
26 Turkish350XWB : Without any will of creating a comparison between these to charakters, really not, but this is just too funny: it is known that Hitler drew the defen
27 Post contains links and images 777way : MyCargo new livery is part of entire HNA group makeover as seen on Hong Kong airlines. View Large View MediumPhoto © Yvan Panas
28 FatmirJusufi : This seemed very interesting to me, when I first read this article earlier today. Well, it's hard to believe that KK has such a capacity to implement
29 Post contains links radiopolitic : http://www.radikal.com.tr/Radikal.as...V3&ArticleID=1106886&CategoryID=77 Details from a community meeting near the planned location of the ai
30 Post contains links and images ASA : Didn't Sean Connery said that 10+ years before Bieber came to this planet ... ?!! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Never_Say_Never_Again
31 TK1244 : The article also mentions Tarhan Tower Airlines, but hasn't the AOC of this airline being revoked few years ago???
32 Post contains images FatmirJusufi : Lol, you're right, but to be honest, Bieber's was the first one that came into my mind! Just to clear things up — I don't like his music. When it c
33 Post contains images MeCe : Yes; everyone learns this on hard way... If you remember avcılar-beylikdüzü metrobüs project they build it 4 times later than planned. At the end
34 OA260 : Thanks for doing the new thread under those circumstances. I trust things are a bit better now? Certainly interesting and I too look forward to follo
35 Post contains links tozbek : Boeing delivered 200th aircraft a 737-900ER to THY: http://kokpit.aero/thy-ikinci-kez-dalya-dedi The ceremony will be done 13th November 2012
36 Post contains links stylo777 : here we go again: http://www.airkule.com/default.asp?page=haber&id=13022 CCS, MEX, HAV, BOS, SFO and YUL now on the agenda depending on aircraft a
37 OA260 : HAV is certainly an interesting one I'm sure it would be a popular route both from connections East and West.
38 TurkishWings : MEX, BOS, SFO and YUL seem to be most feasible. BOS and YUL could be served with 333s and MEX and SFO with the 77Ws.
39 Post contains images ASA : Holy Cow!!! TK is trying to shoot down six geese in one shot!!! That's amazing news - if management is really serious. But will require a whole lot of
40 Turkish350XWB : What about bilaterals? YYZ is 5w. I do not really understand these destinations. Are they also eying pax from Europe with that routes?
41 777way : Airblue will end SAW from 27 November according to their revised schedule.
42 ankaraflyjet : Atlasjet will reinstate 6 daily IST ESB IST flights with Y, Y+ and Business Class from December 1st, 2012 bringing an end to TK's long debated monoplo
43 ju068 : Is there really a demand for three classes on such a short flight?
44 stylo777 : quite suprising, but very welcomed. remember, I asked a few months ago when TK monopoly on this particular route will come to an end. btw where did y
45 Post contains links Turkish350XWB : http://www.afriquejet.com/index.php?...rom-15-dec&catid=2:news&Itemid=111 This tell that TK is starting service to Niamey (Niger) on 15th of d
46 Post contains links leftyboarder : Airlineroute.net reports that this flight is indeed starting on Dec 15, with a IST-NIM-OUA-IST routing, 3 times a week. Two more countries. A/C is 73
47 ankaraflyjet : I think the Y+ is mainly to do with flexible price option rather than inflight service on such a short route. The fact that the route is also very po
48 Post contains images TK1244 : Turkish Airlines' 200th aircraft: I'd expected a better sticker for this event (something like the 100th Boeing aircraft stickers on TC-JGU 'Bodrum')
49 TurkishWings : From the TK to SFO, MEX, CCS etc thread... It seems EZE is finally becoming a reality... I quite like the timing as well... Great for ME adn Asian con
50 Post contains images LLA001 : I remember counting the aircraft of TK in its inflight magazine 25 years ago when I was a kid. It was around 25-30 aircraft a very small fleet compar
51 777way : TK going A333 to Kabul from next month on two weekly flights.
52 Post contains images TK1244 : Same with me. In 2003 we were joking about 777s flying around in TK livery and looking to add 747/A380s, now both become reality!!! Hope the see even
53 Post contains links radiopolitic : More talk of doing something with the military space at Ataturk airport. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-1...h-no-sale-planned-turkey-says.html "Th
54 JU068 : How big is the space? By how much could they increase the capacity? I guess they would build satellite terminals.
55 Post contains images LAXintl : The Military area is outlined in yellow. =
56 JU068 : Wow... thanks for that. I never realized how big it was. By the way, we always talk about the need to expand the terminal capacity, how about the run
57 stylo777 : Runway capacity is already reached/maxed out and no possibility to expand, not even 1meter.
58 Post contains links and images ASA : Indeed ... that area is HUGE!!! Similar (if not bigger) than the area housing all present terminals ... A brand new terminal would be the perfect solu
59 LAXintl : Getting the air force away from the airport will be quite an achievement. In reality not much of the airport property is used these days by them. Ther
60 Turkish350XWB : Even if delayed, the 3rd airport will be open in a few (4-7) years. So why do you want to invest hundreds of millions in sth that is going to vanish
61 Post contains links stylo777 : Some more pictures can been seen on this site which also shows the details on the rear part of the fuselage. http://www.airkule.com/default.asp?page=
62 Post contains images TK1244 : Yes, they also added a few pictures of the rear end of the aircraft on their facebook page. It's looking a bit better now although the "200th aircraf
63 Post contains images ASA : You are right - a new terminal would rather be built in the new airport. A vast parking lot would be more cost effective - though terrible in terms o
64 JU068 : No, no I didn't mean to extend it but I was mostly asking how urgent (or not) is for Istanbul to have a third runway? By the way, does anyone know wh
65 LAXintl : IST does have 3 runways today. A parallel north-south was opened in the last decade. Option of a 4th runway was proposed by the ministry of transport
66 Northstar80 : TK at IST is no different now, I cant recall a flight that I didnt have to take the bus either on arrival or departure (except for my recent JFK flig
67 leftyboarder : And here is Jan-Oct 2012 numbers for TK: ASK: 77518mn up 19.7% RPK: 60639mn up 28.3% LF: 78.2 up 5.3pts Pax: 31971219 up 20.9% Africa and N. America r
68 Post contains links EK413 : Here are a few images of what the NEW airport would look like once it is built... Not the best images but gives you an idea of what's on the cards...
69 Turkish350XWB : I do not believe that airport experience is I don't get it. What kind of design is that, i only see one big connected structure, no air bridges. Can
70 leftyboarder : That is not the official project but an architect's own vision - and a terrible one at that. The actual project hasn't been drawn yet, only master pl
71 Northstar80 : Planes stopped backwards, thats a really clever design!! I wonder if the person who drew these ever seen a real terminal.
72 EK413 : and once again its a link from a website I thought I'll share... EK413
73 Post contains images MeCe : It will be nightmare working in this airport everything made different in the name of "being different and first" I need to find another job
74 Post contains links TK787 : Wow guys, I wasn't expecting this; According to kokpit.aero Pegasus decided to go with 320Neo; 70+30 options. To be announced in the coming days http:
75 Yakamoz : Great News! İ love Boeing, but it's great to see another Airline in Turkey growing. İt would be interesting to know when they will be delivered...
76 LAXintl : TK CEO Temel Kotil has been elected president of the Association of European Airlines (AEA) in 2013. Also the sponsorship of Real Madrid and Barcelona
77 Post contains images OA260 : Indeed here is a copy of the 1988 one which has the route maps in . . . . . . From 1987 they had carried 3.700.000 passengers.
78 JU068 : Thank you for that! Did they operate Istanbul-Stockholm via Belgrade?
79 777way : Didnt know they served India in the 80s, so they relaunched ops there in the 90s pulled out and and returned again in early 2000s.
80 TK1244 : Real Madrid??? Do you mean Manchester United? Congrats to Pegasus Airlines!
81 thenoflyzone : JU068 is talking about aircraft movements being maxed out. He wasn't asking if there is room to build another runway. So to answer his question, sinc
82 JU068 : Thank you for that. I was particularly interested in aircraft movement because what is the point of adding more terminal space if the runways can't h
83 Post contains links TK1244 : According to Hamdi Topçu, the negotiations for Argentine flights took more than one year. The airline will soon be able to fly to EZE. Also during th
84 leftyboarder : 2011 saw 325000 movements. Probably higher by at least 5-10% this year. Starting on Dec 11 according to airlineroute.net
85 thenoflyzone : Well....that means IST cant handle much more increase in terms of aircraft movements. With no new airport in sight for at least 4 years, possibly eve
86 kaitak : Delighted to see that a location has been chosen for the new airport, though I have to agree that the timescale seems extremely ambitious, even if the
87 Post contains links LAXintl : Turkish Airlines consolidated financial statements were reported to Istanbul Stock Exchange. For the first 9-months revenues increased by 30%, produci
88 thenoflyzone : YMX is only 40 km from Montreal. Thenoflyzone
89 Post contains links tozbek : THY choose GE90 for 777's and also CF6's planned for A333? http://kokpit.aero/thy-motor-siparisi-ge
90 TK1244 : So for A330 family we will have: -200 with GE CF6, -200F with RR Trent -300 with RR Trent and -300 with GE CF6 Let me guess, the next A330 order will
91 ElPistolero : It will only be a problem if the country doesn't invest in public transport links to the airport. Sitting next to Europe, I doubt Turkey is going to
92 Turkish350XWB : This is so weird. First they order 5 A332s with GE engines, then they get 10 A333s with RR, and now more A333s with GE. Where is fleet commonality??
93 Post contains links Argentina : From www.airlineroute.net - Flights to EZE are now loaded in the GDS's Turkish Airlines to Start Buenos Aires Operation from Dec 2012 Update at 0840G
94 bahadir : Fleet comnn..whut? Kilotaydin may be a good source for this info. From what I was told 332Fs are underpowered. That might have to do with this.. Then
95 Post contains images TurkishWings : LOL Was that a typo Bahadir?
96 Post contains images emrecan : TK starts MLE on 24th of November with A332, 5 times weekly. Is there anyone here could guess this 2 years ago?
97 Post contains images Northstar80 : emrecan, I am thinking of doing a 5yr gift to my wife in feb, and the flights are eeeeempty! I wish they do well in this route.
98 Post contains images emrecan : I recommend you to make your rez. now. You can be sure Russians are waiting
99 Post contains links leftyboarder : TK 9-month presentation is out on their website: http://www.turkishairlines.com/downl...entations/sunum_eylul_tr_2012.pdf. The original A333 order was
100 Turkish350XWB : This makes 15 This makes 16
101 leftyboarder : You're right, the correct distribution is 4 in 2016, not 5. My bad.
102 Turkish350XWB : Would be nice if Airbus did the same mistake and deliver 5 aircrafts ins 2016 instead of 4. hahahha, too funny.
103 TK787 : Greetings from rainy Istanbul, Took TK10 LAX-IST yesterday. Boy, that is some long flight, even in Comfort. Few notes; -Beylerbeyi -JJP was the bird t
104 JU068 : Turkish Airlines launches flights to Kutahya, they will operate four times per week. TK2050 IST1350 – 1450KZR 738 x246 TK2051 KZR1535 – 1635IST 73
105 Post contains images emrecan : I've just seen a post on facebook but couldn't manage to put it here. A passenger flying from LAX to IST on a TK flight complaining about the heat of
106 Post contains links and images TurkishWings : Have you guys seen this video? http://webtv.hurriyet.com.tr/2/41599...da-eglence-boyle-goruntulendi.aspx Islamic style Samba
107 Turkish350XWB : Ridiculous, fits well to Terlik Hava Yollari. They are also censoring advertisement in their magazine that shows to much leg.
108 Post contains images ASA : wow - real-time feedback-adjustment-update using infight wifi while at cruising height ... it's amazing how technology is changing our lives ... grea
109 Post contains images LAXintl : Ha ha... we'll we are used to it here. IST... 13hrs HKG...14hrs SYD... 15hrs etc... They have a cart of sandwiches, yogurt and other snacks available
110 Post contains images emrecan : Finally I found time to put this... Great move TK !
111 Yakamoz : When does the flights to Kutahya start?
112 leftyboarder : 25 Nov, which is the day after the opening date for the airport.
113 Yakamoz : Great, thanks! Put it into THY destination start agenda; 24.11. İST-Male 25.11. İST-Kutahya 04.12. İST-Kilimanjaro-Mombasa 11.12. Sao Paulo-Buenos
114 leftyboarder : Already an impressive list... BTW, tried a dummy booking on skyscanner for IST-EZE and BEY-EZE... IST-EZE comes up twice the price of BEY-EZE. A clue
115 Turkish350XWB : That's cool. Well, the TK website does not know yet that they will fly to EZE.
116 TK1244 : According to Airporthaber, Atlasjet's IST-ESB-IST flights have been delayed for unknown period of time...
117 Yakamoz : Sunexpress will postpone 3 of 5 aircraft in SAW to AYT (1) and ADB (2). So they give up SAW operations?! Anothwr reason can be that the aviation depar
118 JU068 : Pegasus has been given the green light by the Serbian authorities to operate four weekly flights between SAW and Belgrade. Tickets are already on sale
119 ankaraflyjet : As it seems AtlasJet will use the slots at IST for introducing other routes and shift the 6 daily ESB service to SAW. Date to be advised. SAW ESB sec
120 Post contains links leftyboarder : The list of planned destinations for TK never shrinks... They've announced Luxor, Aswan (both in Egypt), Colombo (Sri Lanka) and Salzburg (Austria) on
121 TK787 : That would be awesome. So, total will be 6 destinations in Egypt. I wonder if MS will codeshare in some of these. Any insights to Colombo? or the oth
122 Post contains images leftyboarder : Ok then A Coruna Abha Abuja Al-Qassim Asmara Aswan Atlanta Boston Buenos Aires Caracas Colombo Constanta Douala Esfahan Havana Houston Kano Kermansha
123 emrecan : Mombasa and Klimanjaro will start on 6th ;Niamey and Ouagadougou will start on 15th; Douala and Yaounde will start on 21st of December..[Edited 2012-1
124 Post contains links TurkishWings : Loss of cabin pressure on board TC-JJK 77W enroute PVG-IST this morning. Here's the rest of the story (only in Turkish though): http://www.hurriyet.co
125 Post contains images ASA : All I can say is ... HOLY COW !!! Many airlines in the world would dream to have those destinations as their TOTAL route map. lol. and this is only T
126 Post contains images TurkishWings : For those who care about this news, the flight between ESB and IST took a staggering 1hr 20mins wheels up-wheels down Must be one of the longest on t
127 Turkish350XWB : That is 39 destinations... Wow ! It seems their goal is 300 destinations. And imagine as soon their new airport opens and they order regional aircraf
128 JU068 : Well as it was reported in the other thread, Turkish Airline will be launching OPO flights while LIS will be double daily. Flights will commence in su
129 Post contains links leftyboarder : As Emrecan noted, Kilimanjaro, Mombasa, Niamey, Ouagadougou, Douala, Yaounde are already starting very soon.. As is Buenos Aires and Houston is forma
130 SCQ83 : LCG has been discarded in favor of nearby SCQ.
131 Post contains links LAXintl : The aircraft are for sale -- Matter of fact there is a current ongoing tender for TC-JDJ Unfortunately there is almost no market demand for the type
132 Northstar80 : I am also excited about TK opening up new destinations, however, I hope TK is able to fill them. Popular destinations like LAX, etc. is easier to fill
133 umit : I flew with 343 Diyarbakir last week to London (J) it looked like pretty well maintained to me . Off course on the way back new 330 /300 was much bett
134 Post contains links radiopolitic : http://www.radikal.com.tr/Radikal.as...V3&ArticleID=1108717&CategoryID=77 A few more details from the architect involved in the new airport (T
135 Post contains links leftyboarder : I concur. Hadn't heard that it was officially dropped, thanks! I started a thread on TK's recent African expansion - 6 destinations in 3 weeks. Feel
136 ankaraflyjet : Reliable sources say that TK did very active lobbying to have the AtlasJet plan shelved to operate between IST and ESB. Too bad from competition stan
137 LAXintl : Does not really matter does it as Turkey is not a member of the EU. With Turkish state still 49% involved with THY and various ministries still provi
138 HB-IWC : The tables on pages 14-15 indicate another couple of interesting details: * TK plans to induct 20 rather than 15 B77Ws, so that means that 5 options
139 Turkish350XWB : This order may come even this year. Due to airporthaber TK is planning an order of 100 narrowbodies.
140 Turkish350XWB : Another TK website classic: Go the the Swiss one and you will see advertisment for Switzerland--> Buenos Aires. When you try to search for flights
141 Post contains links leftyboarder : I wonder why they can't manage the website like so many other airlines can... Anyway, interesting news: AC starting flights to IST on June 4th, 2013,
142 SCQ83 : Flights to SCQ in Spain are already loaded (3 weekly) for S13... starting May 21. It will be Turkish's 6th destination in Spain after MAD, BCN, VLC, A
143 Turkish350XWB : Good news, some more competition. And maybe the first step for the canadian authorities to allow more flights. Loaded to where? Strange they chose Sa
144 SCQ83 : IST-SCQ loaded to Amadeus. TK already stated a few months ago that they wanted to start flights to SCQ over LCG. LCG was supposed to be a tag from BI
145 777way : Airblue used Ankara's Etimesgut Airport as a techstop on their first A340 flight return leg from Manchester to Islamabad, not sure if its going to be
146 LAXintl : Turkey is a county with an amazing number of fields. Ankara has 4. LTAB = Ankara Guvercinlik LTAC = Ankara Esenboga Intl LTAD = Ankara Etimesgut LTAE
147 TK787 : Exactly, The article says "pending government approval." AC can fly 763s to Istanbul from Toronto, and TK can get daily flights to YYZ and maybe YUL
148 Post contains links LAXintl : TK CEO says order for 100 narrowbodies could come by the end of the year, or early 2013. They are looking at the usual Airbus/Boeing models and also t
149 Post contains links tozbek : End of 737-400 in THY: http://kokpit.aero/737-400-thy-emekli-oluyor
150 777way : Thanks LAXintl, wonder what it was all about.
151 LAXintl : How times fly, and what history the 737-400s had at THY. I still remember back in 1989/1990 when lessors like ILFC and Irish GPA were making presentat
152 Post contains links tozbek : THY's CEO Temel Kotil wrote 2013 targets in Skylife magazine including how many new destinations next year: http://kokpit.aero/temel-kotil-2013-hedef
153 TK787 : 33 new destinations in 2013, Wow! Again! Exactly, still I never understood why they kept extending the leases for 734s after many other 738/320 aircr
154 TK1244 : I don't know if they have stopped in Ankara, but if true than I think PA used ESB and not ANK. For example, on my Turkish Airlines domestic ticket fr
155 Turkish350XWB : I see, thanks for the explanation. Good news for fleet homogenization. Kotil also saying that B787 does not fill the needs of TK and that they could
156 777way : I guess it could also be a mistake on flightradar as you mentioned elsewhere, the flight path shows the aircraft flying nonstop into Georgian airspac
157 Turkish350XWB : TK is gowing 4daily to IKA starting dec 24th. TK878 AIRBUS A330-300 01:20 (IST) 05:50 (IKA) TK870 AIRBUS A321-231 10:25 (IST) 14:55 (IKA) NEW TK874 AI
158 Post contains links Turkish350XWB : http://kokpit.aero/index.php?route=video/video&video_id=373 One of the final B734 flights of TK. You notice anything? hahahaha.
159 Post contains links LAXintl : Air Canada - Turkish Airlines sign a reciprocal code share agreement. Air Canada and Turkish Airlines enter into Code Share Agreement http://finance.y
160 Post contains links TK787 : Please continue here: Turkish Aviation December 2012 (by TK787 Nov 30 2012 in Civil Aviation)
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