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Pan Am's Ops At MSP  
User currently offline747buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 742 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 10 months 14 hours ago) and read 2786 times:

Hello,

I was remembering recently when Pan Am used to fly to MSP back in the early 90s. I remember that their MSP ticket counter was directly adjacent to Continental's, and IIRC they also used a CO gate on the then-Blue Concourse. In fact in this picture I found, the plane is at the gate surrounded by CO equipment.


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Now for my question: Did PA have their own staff here at MSP, or were they handled by CO?

Thank you.


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User currently offlinekjet12 From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 975 posts, RR: 8
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 12 hours ago) and read 2597 times:

IIRC, I believe it was TWA that did their ground handling in MSP. I would have to confirm with some of my former TWA colleagues.


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User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 2495 times:

Quoting 747buff (Thread starter):
I was remembering recently when Pan Am used to fly to MSP back in the early 90s.

As a sidenote, when that 1989 photo was taken, Pan Am had 2 daily departures from MSP, one to SLC and one to JFK. The 727-200 operated JFK-MSP-SLC, overnighted SLC, and returned the next morning SLC-MSP-JFK.

When they shut down in 1991 they were down to one daily departure from MSP, a 727-200 that operated JFK-CLE-MSP, overnighted MSP, and returned MSP-CLE-JFK the next morning.


User currently offlineacidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1874 posts, RR: 10
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 11 hours ago) and read 2465 times:
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Quoting 747buff (Thread starter):
Now for my question: Did PA have their own staff here at MSP, or were they handled by CO?

You bring back the memories   That 727 is parked at what is now gate E9 which has been a CO gate for a long time (now part of the combined CO/UA). That pushback tug belongs to CO and I even used to use it (2004-2008)! It's been there since "at least" the Wright Brothers. Not sure about who handled PanAm's counter but I'm mostly certain CO ramp handled the PanAm flight (I'll make some calls).



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User currently offline747buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 742 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 10 hours ago) and read 2319 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):

As a sidenote, when that 1989 photo was taken, Pan Am had 2 daily departures from MSP, one to SLC and one to JFK. The 727-200 operated JFK-MSP-SLC, overnighted SLC, and returned the next morning SLC-MSP-JFK.

When they shut down in 1991 they were down to one daily departure from MSP, a 727-200 that operated JFK-CLE-MSP, overnighted MSP, and returned MSP-CLE-JFK the next morning.

Pan Am seemed to have a bit of a rocky history at MSP. According to my timetables they started service in 1983 with an L1011 (there is a pic on here of the A/C at the MSP gate) flying MSP-DTW-JFK, with the DTW stop being replaced by ORD later. PA pulled out of MSP in early 1985, after the strike, I presume.

They returned in 1987 flying the aforementioned JFK-MSP-SLC route. IIRC, didn't the flight briefly continue to MCI instead of SLC at one point?

MSP is not listed in PA's final timetable (10/27/91), so I presume they left MSP again when the Atlantic routes were transferred to DL.

Quoting acidradio (Reply 3):
That pushback tug belongs to CO and I even used to use it (2004-2008)! It's been there since "at least" the Wright Brothers. Not sure about who handled PanAm's counter but I'm mostly certain CO ramp handled the PanAm flight (I'll make some calls).

Very cool! Please let me know if you find out anything! And thank you all for your responses!



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User currently offlineneveragain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 8 hours ago) and read 2194 times:

Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):
As a sidenote, when that 1989 photo was taken, Pan Am had 2 daily departures from MSP, one to SLC and one to JFK. The 727-200 operated JFK-MSP-SLC, overnighted SLC, and returned the next morning SLC-MSP-JFK.

I envy your encyclopedic knowledge and always appreciate the history and context you bring to many threads. I thought I was respectable, but your memory is something to aspire to.

[Edited 2012-11-01 22:44:36]

User currently offlinebobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1711 posts, RR: 1
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 5 hours ago) and read 2073 times:
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Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):

PA did lots of odd tags like that. JFK-DFW-ABQ was one

Quoting 747buff (Reply 4):

Yes, I recall PA flying MSP-DTW- JFK with an L15. Must have lost tons of money. I don't know why PA never used 737s in the USA.


User currently offlineViscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 25170 posts, RR: 22
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 4 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1694 times:

Quoting neveragain (Reply 5):
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):
As a sidenote, when that 1989 photo was taken, Pan Am had 2 daily departures from MSP, one to SLC and one to JFK. The 727-200 operated JFK-MSP-SLC, overnighted SLC, and returned the next morning SLC-MSP-JFK.

I envy your encyclopedic knowledge and always appreciate the history and context you bring to many threads. I thought I was respectable, but your memory is something to aspire to.

Thanks, but my memory isn't that good. I did some old schedule research in the departedflights.com site!  


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