747buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 707 posts, RR: 0 Posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1918 times:
Hello,
I was remembering recently when Pan Am used to fly to MSP back in the early 90s. I remember that their MSP ticket counter was directly adjacent to Continental's, and IIRC they also used a CO gate on the then-Blue Concourse. In fact in this picture I found, the plane is at the gate surrounded by CO equipment.
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21676 posts, RR: 23 Reply 2, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1627 times:
Quoting 747buff (Thread starter): I was remembering recently when Pan Am used to fly to MSP back in the early 90s.
As a sidenote, when that 1989 photo was taken, Pan Am had 2 daily departures from MSP, one to SLC and one to JFK. The 727-200 operated JFK-MSP-SLC, overnighted SLC, and returned the next morning SLC-MSP-JFK.
When they shut down in 1991 they were down to one daily departure from MSP, a 727-200 that operated JFK-CLE-MSP, overnighted MSP, and returned MSP-CLE-JFK the next morning.
acidradio From United States of America, joined Mar 2001, 1855 posts, RR: 10 Reply 3, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 5 hours ago) and read 1597 times:
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Quoting 747buff (Thread starter): Now for my question: Did PA have their own staff here at MSP, or were they handled by CO?
You bring back the memories That 727 is parked at what is now gate E9 which has been a CO gate for a long time (now part of the combined CO/UA). That pushback tug belongs to CO and I even used to use it (2004-2008)! It's been there since "at least" the Wright Brothers. Not sure about who handled PanAm's counter but I'm mostly certain CO ramp handled the PanAm flight (I'll make some calls).
747buff From United States of America, joined Jan 2001, 707 posts, RR: 0 Reply 4, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 3 hours ago) and read 1451 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):
As a sidenote, when that 1989 photo was taken, Pan Am had 2 daily departures from MSP, one to SLC and one to JFK. The 727-200 operated JFK-MSP-SLC, overnighted SLC, and returned the next morning SLC-MSP-JFK.
When they shut down in 1991 they were down to one daily departure from MSP, a 727-200 that operated JFK-CLE-MSP, overnighted MSP, and returned MSP-CLE-JFK the next morning.
Pan Am seemed to have a bit of a rocky history at MSP. According to my timetables they started service in 1983 with an L1011 (there is a pic on here of the A/C at the MSP gate) flying MSP-DTW-JFK, with the DTW stop being replaced by ORD later. PA pulled out of MSP in early 1985, after the strike, I presume.
They returned in 1987 flying the aforementioned JFK-MSP-SLC route. IIRC, didn't the flight briefly continue to MCI instead of SLC at one point?
MSP is not listed in PA's final timetable (10/27/91), so I presume they left MSP again when the Atlantic routes were transferred to DL.
Quoting acidradio (Reply 3): That pushback tug belongs to CO and I even used to use it (2004-2008)! It's been there since "at least" the Wright Brothers. Not sure about who handled PanAm's counter but I'm mostly certain CO ramp handled the PanAm flight (I'll make some calls).
Very cool! Please let me know if you find out anything! And thank you all for your responses!
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neveragain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR: Reply 5, posted (7 months 2 weeks 4 days 2 hours ago) and read 1326 times:
Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2): As a sidenote, when that 1989 photo was taken, Pan Am had 2 daily departures from MSP, one to SLC and one to JFK. The 727-200 operated JFK-MSP-SLC, overnighted SLC, and returned the next morning SLC-MSP-JFK.
I envy your encyclopedic knowledge and always appreciate the history and context you bring to many threads. I thought I was respectable, but your memory is something to aspire to.
bobloblaw From United States of America, joined Jan 2012, 1445 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 1205 times:
Viscount724 From Switzerland, joined Oct 2006, 21676 posts, RR: 23 Reply 7, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 5 hours ago) and read 826 times:
Quoting neveragain (Reply 5): Quoting Viscount724 (Reply 2):
As a sidenote, when that 1989 photo was taken, Pan Am had 2 daily departures from MSP, one to SLC and one to JFK. The 727-200 operated JFK-MSP-SLC, overnighted SLC, and returned the next morning SLC-MSP-JFK.
I envy your encyclopedic knowledge and always appreciate the history and context you bring to many threads. I thought I was respectable, but your memory is something to aspire to.
Thanks, but my memory isn't that good. I did some old schedule research in the departedflights.com site!