jfk777 From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 8766 posts, RR: 6
Reply 3, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 9034 times:
PA A300 operations were centered in Miami since the planes were not used for Atlantic flights, they were used in the Caribean and north Latin America. JFK and Miami Barbados were A300 routes. Miami to LGA and JFK. Miami to caracas was A300. MIA to MEX & LAX.
Aeri28 From United States of America, joined Dec 2000, 709 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8898 times:
Quoting hugo (Reply 1): The only Pan am flight I was ever on was with Clipper Detroit, an A300, LAX-SFO in the mid-80s.
I flew this flight, not sure which year, but I believe it originated or came in from Guatemala City to LAX then SFO. Odd trivia, is that I remember which song was playing on the p.a. as we deplaned. That song by Julio Iglesias and Diana Ross, which could clue as to which year it was... Nice interior I remember, not sure of the colors, as the last 747 (non sp) flight I took with PA the seats were the blue and red ones.
n729pa From UK - England, joined Jan 2011, 470 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 8851 times:
Quoting fraapproach (Reply 2): The A 300s and A 310s flew plenty of routes out of FRA; don´t know the exact ones but I would assume
FRA-JFK / IAD
I remember about 1987/88 there was a daily A310 from LHR-DTW, PA55 I think it was (that just popped out of my memory), but I don't remember if it originated in Germany or not. We used to get loads of 727s from FRA/TXL to connect through on. I think even for a brief period the Detroit flight was operated with the Tristar, courtesy of the equipment swap with United.
Anyway back to the A300s....I think they mainly flew from MIA/NYC down to San Juan/Mexico City(?)/Venezuela and basically on the Caribbean routes. I don't recall ever seeing a Pan Am A300 at LHR, A310s yes but not the A300s.
Crosswind From United Kingdom, joined Nov 2000, 2617 posts, RR: 57
Reply 7, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 8815 times:
I flew MCO-MIA on one in 1988, a regular run at the time. The aircraft Clipper Guatemala was in excellent shape, and although not used for anything else on that short flight the safety video was played on the bulkhead projection screens.
With one exception, all Pan Am's A300s were delivered direct from Airbus in 1984/85, so even at the close of operations they were still very young aircraft. In stark contrast to some of the 747 fleet.
On the same trip I flew 2 747-100s and a 737-200. The 737 still had full Air Florida interior, right down to the pastel coloured seats and side linings and logo on the wall coverings in the toilet. One of the 747s had it's original interior and was literally falling apart, lockers held together with speed-tape and the movie broke in the first 5 minutes of the film... the other newly refurbished with big-bin overhead lockers and actually quite nice.
If only they'd been more consistent as an airline.
From the 1987 timetable, A300 routes were as follows;
I don't have it with me at the moment, but I'm sure by the following year as well as MIA-MCO-MIA they were also doing MIA-TPA-MIA, both as tags to onward Caribbean service from Miami. No Germany based A300s in 1987, but there had been previously and looking at later photos there were later as well... In 1987 only A310s shown. They obviously swapped round as needed.
Wow, thanks for posting the safety video. I think its great. Very focused on the essential message. Though its almost 25 years old it could still be shown today. Some of todays safety videos are more of an informercial and could be a lot shorter...
vc10dc10 From United States of America, joined Apr 2006, 1046 posts, RR: 3
Reply 17, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 17 hours ago) and read 8118 times:
Quoting longhauler (Reply 13):
I remember when no-smoking cabins first appeared in aircraft, and a lot of people thought it was only a fad, and smokers will demand that they smoke everywhere in an airplane!
n729pa From UK - England, joined Jan 2011, 470 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (2 years 4 months 3 weeks 6 days 16 hours ago) and read 8056 times:
Quoting brilondon (Reply 11): Wow, I forgot about the smoking on airplanes. What ever possessed people to be allowed to smoke in a tiny little environment as an airplane? How times have changed.
..and you could booking "smoking or non-smoking" ......as if it mattered, it was like the cinemas that made smokers sit on the left and non smokers on the right. When I first started work, the smoke in the office was like a smog at times. I must have smoked 60 a day and never paid for any of them!
On here you can see the very different cabin interiors compared to the rest of the fleet. Particularly different is the galaxy theme divider on the aft of the cabin.
What a memory-provoker! I worked witrh a handling agency in BGI in 1986 that served PA and I remember those A300s well with the blue and pink interiors... We had the daily BOS-FK-BGI-JFK-BOS PA219/220 with the Airbus and sometimes an A300 substituted the 727 on the daily MIA flight, but I don not think the A300 was ever scheduled for MIA.
: Yes, when based in Europe they all had German names, like the 727s and propeller types that operated the routes to/from Berlin earlier. Names were ch
: ] The IGS was an airline in itself. The clipper names you list is just a short list. I remember one - believe it was a 727-200 named "Clipper Langer L
: So true, would love to see a Pan Am aircraft on static display at a museum
: PA used its A300 on most Caribbean routes including JFK-PTP I do remember my mother flew this bird PTP-JFK-PTP. As a matter of fact, PA was flying JFK
: It appears that in the 1985 timetable, the A310's were used on domestic US services and European services, primarily the intra German fights. In the 1