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1Time Low Cost Operator Shuts Down  
User currently offlineBruceSmith From South Africa, joined May 2011, 47 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 8584 times:

The South African low cost operator 1Time has filed for liquidation on Friday and has grounded all flights. This came after months of business rescue negotiations. No more bright red craft in our southern skies.

More details at http://ewn.co.za/2012/11/02/1time

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User currently offlineLostSound From Canada, joined May 2012, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8289 times:

RIP 1 Time!

This is around the 44th airline to disappear this year.

For anyone who's interested, here is a list of airlines/brands
that are now history in 2012.

1. Cirrus Air - January 2012
2. Spanair - January 2012
3. Air Zimbabwe - January 2012
4. Mesaba Airlines - January 2012
5. Czech Connect Airlines - January 2012
6. USA3000 - January 2012
7. Air Australia - February 2012
8. VarigLOG (Varig Logística S.A.) - February 2012
9. Malév Hungarian Airlines - February 2012
10. Aeroperlas (Aerolíneas Islas de Las Perlas) - February 2012
11. Continental Airlines - March 2012
12. Norfolk Airlines - March 2012
13. JetLite - March 2012
14. AirTran Airways - March 2012
15. DirectAir - March 2012
16. Redjet - March 2012
17. GMG - March 2012
18. Velvet Sky - March 2012
19. Pinnancle Airlines - April 2012
20. KentuckySkies - April 2012
21. TennesseeSkies - April 2012
22. Aerosur - May 2012
23. Mint Airways - May 2012
24. Cimber Sterling - May 2012
25. Skyways Express - May 2012
26. City Airline - May 2012
27. Air Finland - June 2012
28. PLUNA Líneas Aéreas Uruguayas S.A. - July 2012
29. AeroGal - July 2012
30. OLT Express Poland - July 2012
31. BETA Cargo - July 2012
32. Sol del Paraguay - August 2012
33. Windjet - August 2012
34. Jett8 Airlines/ Jett8 Cargo - August 2012
35. Comair (USA) - Sptember 2012
36. BMI baby - September 2012
37. Contact Air - September 201
38. Nigerial Airways - September 2012
39. Colgan Air - September 2012
40. BMI British Midland International - October 2012
41. Kingfisher Airlines - October 2012
42. Kingfisher Xpress - October 2012
43. Hello Airlines - October 2012
44. 1Time - November 2012



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User currently offlinetcx69k From United Kingdom, joined Jun 2012, 135 posts, RR: 0
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8171 times:
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Quote:
36. BMI baby - September 2012
40. BMI British Midland International - October 2012
bmibaby
bmi British Midland International


User currently offlinethegoldenargosy From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 380 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8155 times:

Quoting LostSound (Reply 1):
19. Pinnancle Airlines - April 2012

Pinnacle is still flying.

Quoting LostSound (Reply 1):
14. AirTran Airways - March 2012

AirTran, though now owned by Southwest, is still flying as well


User currently offlineLostSound From Canada, joined May 2012, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 7958 times:

Quoting tcx69k (Reply 2):
Quoting thegoldenargosy (Reply 3):

Copied and pasted from Diecast Aircraft Forum.
Excuse any mistakes!

[Edited 2012-11-02 10:46:35]


"Our hands are full, our lives are not"
User currently offlineShudu From South Africa, joined Sep 2011, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 7668 times:

This was very sad news but kind of expected. Apparently 1Time where optimistic for a white horse investor to come on board and rescue the airline, but this did not happen so they decided to pull the plug.

Comair chief executive Erik Venter said 10 out of 11 private airlines launched in South Africa since the industry was deregulated in 1991 had failed. "Due to the less efficient fleet it operated, the ultimate closure of 1Time was inevitable," he said in a statement

I guess now with only Comair and SAA in the market we can expect prices to sky rocket.


User currently offlinesandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 1109 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7370 times:
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Quoting Shudu (Reply 5):
Comair chief executive Erik Venter said 10 out of 11 private airlines launched in South Africa since the industry was deregulated in 1991 had failed. "Due to the less efficient fleet it operated, the ultimate closure of 1Time was inevitable," he said in a statement
Quoting Shudu (Reply 5):
I guess now with only Comair and SAA in the market we can expect prices to sky rocket.

What about Kulula? (albeit a brand of Comair),
What about Mango?

I must admit I avoided 1Time when I was last in SA. They had a bad rep and the metal was oooolllldddddddddd although according to Airfleets they'd got rid of the MD-80s and were flying 737s (with an average fleet age of 17 years).

Sandyb123



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User currently offlineandrefranca From Brazil, joined May 2011, 614 posts, RR: 0
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 10 hours ago) and read 7334 times:

Sad, indeed! wish the best for their employees!

User currently offlinecapri From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 449 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 7 hours ago) and read 7051 times:

lots and lots of free pilots out there, getting an airline job will get tougher

User currently offlineBoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 3077 posts, RR: 7
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 6887 times:

Quoting Shudu (Reply 5):
This was very sad news but kind of expected. Apparently 1Time where optimistic for a white horse investor to come on board and rescue the airline, but this did not happen so they decided to pull the plug.

Quite frankly, that was one of the airlines that I would never have flown. It seemed like was in the same league as that Thai MD-80 airline. I was booking an internal flight in South Africa and looked at 1Time and just didn't get a good vibe about them - very low budget airline using older equipment. Mango Air was my choice.


User currently offlineYVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2469 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 3 hours ago) and read 6088 times:

They lasted quite a while though and were not exactly a flash in the pan like Velvet Sky, I was in JNB in 2005 and they had been going a year or two then. They had DC9-32's at that point, was great to see them alongside the Nationwide 727.


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User currently offlineF9animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 5055 posts, RR: 28
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 2 hours ago) and read 5722 times:

Very sad to hear. I really liked their scheme.


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User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 13138 posts, RR: 100
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5410 times:
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Quoting LostSound (Reply 1):
For anyone who's interested, here is a list of airlines/brands
that are now history in 2012.

Thank you. It has not been a great year for airline durability...  
Quoting LostSound (Reply 1):
41. Kingfisher Airlines - October 2012

They are effectively done, but not yet officially done. The ref is still counting...

Lightsaber



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User currently offlineIndianicWorld From Australia, joined Jun 2001, 2981 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 5335 times:

Quoting sandyb123 (Reply 6):
What about Mango?

Part of the SAA group.

Overall, South Africa has always appeared to be a market with too much competition for a very limited domestic route network. 2 carriers with dual brand strategies (also the same that is occurring in Australia currently), is likely the best we can hope for in this challenging industry.


User currently offlineCoal From United States of America, joined Aug 2006, 2050 posts, RR: 9
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 23 hours ago) and read 4877 times:

Aeroperlas and AeroGal are flying under the AV and TA brands.

Cheers
Coal



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User currently offlinescbriml From United Kingdom, joined Jul 2003, 12569 posts, RR: 46
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 4575 times:
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That's a real shame, I loved their planes when I visited SA a few years ago.

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User currently offlinepfletch1228 From South Africa, joined Aug 2006, 198 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 1372 times:

Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 9):
Quite frankly, that was one of the airlines that I would never have flown. It seemed like was in the same league as that Thai MD-80 airline. I was booking an internal flight in South Africa and looked at 1Time and just didn't get a good vibe about them - very low budget airline using older equipment. Mango Air was my choice.

What an uneducated comment to make. 1Time were a great airline. They had the best on time performance of any airline in South Africa. They offered - by far - the best hard product amongst the LCC here. They were extremely popular with the small and medium businessmen. I am very sad to see them go. In contrast - Mango, along with parent SAA - have not been able to turn a profit for years now. They rely on government handouts to stay in the air (close to $4 billion over the last 18 years), and use economic terrorism to flush out the competition. The demise of 1time is more indicative of how screwed the political system is in SA more than anything else.



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