BruceSmith From South Africa, joined May 2011, 8 posts, RR: 0 Posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 7553 times:
The South African low cost operator 1Time has filed for liquidation on Friday and has grounded all flights. This came after months of business rescue negotiations. No more bright red craft in our southern skies.
LostSound From Canada, joined May 2012, 161 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 18 hours ago) and read 7258 times:
RIP 1 Time!
This is around the 44th airline to disappear this year.
For anyone who's interested, here is a list of airlines/brands
that are now history in 2012.
1. Cirrus Air - January 2012
2. Spanair - January 2012
3. Air Zimbabwe - January 2012
4. Mesaba Airlines - January 2012
5. Czech Connect Airlines - January 2012
6. USA3000 - January 2012
7. Air Australia - February 2012
8. VarigLOG (Varig Logística S.A.) - February 2012
9. Malév Hungarian Airlines - February 2012
10. Aeroperlas (Aerolíneas Islas de Las Perlas) - February 2012
11. Continental Airlines - March 2012
12. Norfolk Airlines - March 2012
13. JetLite - March 2012
14. AirTran Airways - March 2012
15. DirectAir - March 2012
16. Redjet - March 2012
17. GMG - March 2012
18. Velvet Sky - March 2012
19. Pinnancle Airlines - April 2012
20. KentuckySkies - April 2012
21. TennesseeSkies - April 2012
22. Aerosur - May 2012
23. Mint Airways - May 2012
24. Cimber Sterling - May 2012
25. Skyways Express - May 2012
26. City Airline - May 2012
27. Air Finland - June 2012
28. PLUNA Líneas Aéreas Uruguayas S.A. - July 2012
29. AeroGal - July 2012
30. OLT Express Poland - July 2012
31. BETA Cargo - July 2012
32. Sol del Paraguay - August 2012
33. Windjet - August 2012
34. Jett8 Airlines/ Jett8 Cargo - August 2012
35. Comair (USA) - Sptember 2012
36. BMI baby - September 2012
37. Contact Air - September 201
38. Nigerial Airways - September 2012
39. Colgan Air - September 2012
40. BMI British Midland International - October 2012
41. Kingfisher Airlines - October 2012
42. Kingfisher Xpress - October 2012
43. Hello Airlines - October 2012
44. 1Time - November 2012
thegoldenargosy From United States of America, joined Sep 2010, 224 posts, RR: 0 Reply 3, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 17 hours ago) and read 7124 times:
Quoting LostSound (Reply 1): 19. Pinnancle Airlines - April 2012
Shudu From South Africa, joined Sep 2011, 19 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 6637 times:
This was very sad news but kind of expected. Apparently 1Time where optimistic for a white horse investor to come on board and rescue the airline, but this did not happen so they decided to pull the plug.
Comair chief executive Erik Venter said 10 out of 11 private airlines launched in South Africa since the industry was deregulated in 1991 had failed. "Due to the less efficient fleet it operated, the ultimate closure of 1Time was inevitable," he said in a statement
I guess now with only Comair and SAA in the market we can expect prices to sky rocket.
sandyb123 From UK - Scotland, joined Oct 2007, 873 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 6339 times:
Quoting Shudu (Reply 5): Comair chief executive Erik Venter said 10 out of 11 private airlines launched in South Africa since the industry was deregulated in 1991 had failed. "Due to the less efficient fleet it operated, the ultimate closure of 1Time was inevitable," he said in a statement
Quoting Shudu (Reply 5): I guess now with only Comair and SAA in the market we can expect prices to sky rocket.
What about Kulula? (albeit a brand of Comair),
What about Mango?
I must admit I avoided 1Time when I was last in SA. They had a bad rep and the metal was oooolllldddddddddd although according to Airfleets they'd got rid of the MD-80s and were flying 737s (with an average fleet age of 17 years).
BoeingGuy From United States of America, joined Dec 2010, 2315 posts, RR: 7 Reply 9, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 10 hours ago) and read 5856 times:
Quoting Shudu (Reply 5): This was very sad news but kind of expected. Apparently 1Time where optimistic for a white horse investor to come on board and rescue the airline, but this did not happen so they decided to pull the plug.
Quite frankly, that was one of the airlines that I would never have flown. It seemed like was in the same league as that Thai MD-80 airline. I was booking an internal flight in South Africa and looked at 1Time and just didn't get a good vibe about them - very low budget airline using older equipment. Mango Air was my choice.
YVRLTN From Canada, joined Oct 2006, 2096 posts, RR: 0 Reply 10, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 7 hours ago) and read 5057 times:
They lasted quite a while though and were not exactly a flash in the pan like Velvet Sky, I was in JNB in 2005 and they had been going a year or two then. They had DC9-32's at that point, was great to see them alongside the Nationwide 727.
F9animal From United States of America, joined Dec 2004, 4739 posts, RR: 30 Reply 11, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 6 hours ago) and read 4691 times:
lightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 10696 posts, RR: 100 Reply 12, posted (6 months 3 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 4379 times:
Quoting LostSound (Reply 1): For anyone who's interested, here is a list of airlines/brands
that are now history in 2012.
Thank you. It has not been a great year for airline durability...
Quoting LostSound (Reply 1): 41. Kingfisher Airlines - October 2012
They are effectively done, but not yet officially done. The ref is still counting...
Overall, South Africa has always appeared to be a market with too much competition for a very limited domestic route network. 2 carriers with dual brand strategies (also the same that is occurring in Australia currently), is likely the best we can hope for in this challenging industry.
pfletch1228 From South Africa, joined Aug 2006, 171 posts, RR: 0 Reply 16, posted (6 months 2 weeks 6 days 20 hours ago) and read 341 times:
Quoting BoeingGuy (Reply 9): Quite frankly, that was one of the airlines that I would never have flown. It seemed like was in the same league as that Thai MD-80 airline. I was booking an internal flight in South Africa and looked at 1Time and just didn't get a good vibe about them - very low budget airline using older equipment. Mango Air was my choice.
What an uneducated comment to make. 1Time were a great airline. They had the best on time performance of any airline in South Africa. They offered - by far - the best hard product amongst the LCC here. They were extremely popular with the small and medium businessmen. I am very sad to see them go. In contrast - Mango, along with parent SAA - have not been able to turn a profit for years now. They rely on government handouts to stay in the air (close to $4 billion over the last 18 years), and use economic terrorism to flush out the competition. The demise of 1time is more indicative of how screwed the political system is in SA more than anything else.
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