vectismanpaul From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 61 posts, RR: 0 Posted (1 year 1 month 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 25498 times:
I was just wondering if anyone had any more news about BA route developments for Summer 2013 at London Gatwick.
I am aware that Manchester is stopping and Amsterdam is reduced from 26 to 22. I also know that Barcelona and Alicante are being introduced 3 times daily each. A reliable source on here last week indicated that 2 new short haul routes would be announced very soon. Any ideas what they might be? I also heard a rumour that there could be a couple of long haul 'tag ons' too.
I don't want the thread to become a debate about pros and cons of having a base at Gatwick but just to concentrate on BA Gatwick News including aircraft, routes etc....
Hopefully the thread will become informative!!
I look forward to reading your inputs.
AIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2411 posts, RR: 1 Reply 3, posted (1 year 1 month 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 25148 times:
Quoting jet72uk (Reply 1): The two short haul route announcements have been delayed but they will happen.
Is there any chance one of them would be Malta. KM has reduced their flights to LGW so may be BA could take over some of them.
Generally speaking, BA is a bit weaker than LH, AF or KL for European flights due to constraints in LHR or LGW. I think they should share codes with the likes of KM, JU or JP if they do not serve their respective countries. It would add more feed to BA's longhaul and shorthaul flights.
santos From United Kingdom, joined Dec 2007, 729 posts, RR: 0 Reply 7, posted (1 year 1 month 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 24458 times:
Quoting capri (Reply 6): It's more likely will be CMN in summer, they have suspended it by now from LHR, but it will come back as there is also a demand in the summer for TNG also, so keep watching for these 2 routes
Air Arabia Morocco started this 2 routes only last week, so probably not on BA priority list, as CMN wasn't a good performer for BD.
vectismanpaul From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2012, 61 posts, RR: 0 Reply 9, posted (1 year 1 month 6 days 1 hour ago) and read 24355 times:
'Heard a rumour that some of BA Cityflyer's Embraer 190s might go to LGW, ultimately replacing the 734s and thus removing BA mainline from shorthaul at Gatwick.'
In my opinion unlikely owing to BA agreement with BALPA re use of aircraft with less than 100 seats out of LGW or LHR. This does not mean, I believe, that BA Mainline cannot order/operate EMB 195s but would need to do so with more than 100 seats. Flybe operates theirs with 118 seats. However I have been informed that Gatwick handling charges are more favourable for aircraft with 150 plus seats. (interesting that easyjet A319s have a 156 capacity)
However some routes would suit a 114 to 118 seater (Maybe Manchester route may have survived with this capacity aircraft). However in Summer months demand is high on some routes in both Club and Economy cabins. Also some routes such as Paphos would need the A319/A320 or the 737.
AIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2411 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (1 year 1 month 3 days 4 hours ago) and read 20165 times:
Excellent news. BA was always remoured to start those 2 destinations from LGW.
I however feel that there is room for more new routes out of LGW especially considering BA is closing MAN, reduing AMS and some other routes. These 2 new routes will only take a 734 from 13:00 onwards. I think the cancellation of MAN and AMS reduction might have freed up one entire 734.
AIR MALTA From Malta, joined Sep 2001, 2411 posts, RR: 1 Reply 21, posted (1 year 1 month 3 days ago) and read 20156 times:
ACE is every Thursday and Sunday while TPS gets the service the other days.
Thinking about other Spanish routes, I was wondering why BA isn't using Vueling as a partner where Vueling would operate routes to Gatwick from let's say VLC, PMI, SVQ, MAH, BIO, etc with BA sharing codes on those services. It might be a smart move to put pressure on U2 at LGW.