airliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 887 posts, RR: 1 Posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4394 times:
AirTran has requested the DOT revoke the unused Republic exemption so it can provide service from Denver to Cabo. They also say its unfair because Repiblic and Frontier have exemptions and if Republic were to start they wouldn't compete like AirTran would.
iowaman From United States of America, joined May 2004, 4114 posts, RR: 7 Reply 1, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4358 times:
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Your link is for members only just as a heads up.
If FL/WN can use this exemption no doubt they would likely put it to use when the network is fully integrated (and before that without the connecting feed). SJD is generally more of a west coast destination and DEN could provide both O&D and feed from stations all around the country.
I'm hoping for LAS-SJD at some point but I'm not as sure it will happen now.
airliner371 From United States of America, joined Aug 2012, 887 posts, RR: 1 Reply 2, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 4307 times:
Quoting iowaman (Reply 1): Your link is for members only just as a heads up.
Membership is free so I you want to sign up don't worry plus it's faster then regulations.gov.
Mexicana757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2001, 2961 posts, RR: 30 Reply 5, posted (7 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 3794 times:
Good to see Airtran apply for DEN-SJD. I wish WN/FL had applied for MDW-SJD when F9 was applied to take over for USA3000 routes. They could have had better use of the route authority than Frontier.
SurfandSnow From United States of America, joined Jan 2009, 2615 posts, RR: 31 Reply 6, posted (7 months 2 weeks 2 days 5 hours ago) and read 662 times:
I don't see why the government wouldn't give this to FL/WN. Republic has sharply reduced the "F9" E-190 fleet and I can't see why they would put up any kind of fight to keep the authority. I doubt they have the aircraft availability to even do DEN-SJD with the E-190 anymore.
As for FL/WN's SJD station, I was surprised to see it open with the lone daily SNA flight. SNA itself isn't a very effective gateway to the network, only offering connectivity (in both directions) to NorCal and LAS! Of course, SNA did offer great incentives for new international service, and I bet the O&D on that route is very strong. DEN-SJD should have fairly decent O&D and provide connectivity to much more of the network, though. I wonder what else they could do to SJD. HOU, PHX, LAS, SAN, perhaps even SJC, OAK, SMF, ONT, ABQ, TUS, AUS, MCI, STL, and/or SAT! They won't be able to serve SJD from LAX, DAL, MDW, or SFO, though!
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bjorn14 From Norway, joined Feb 2010, 2776 posts, RR: 2 Reply 7, posted (7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 528 times:
Quoting iowaman (Reply 1): I'm hoping for LAS-SJD at some point but I'm not as sure it will happen now.
This was discussed on another thread awhile back as to why there was no LAS-MX beach cities and the consensus was that Vegans have everything they need why go anywhere else. But with a large bank of ICOs in LAS by WN this could change.
SJD was/is a favorite spot for Colorado ski bums to thaw/dry out after the season ended.
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enilria From Canada, joined Feb 2008, 6157 posts, RR: 12 Reply 8, posted (7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 528 times:
Quoting airliner371 (Thread starter): AirTran has requested the DOT revoke the unused Republic exemption so it can provide service from Denver to Cabo. They also say its unfair because Repiblic and Frontier have exemptions and if Republic were to start they wouldn't compete like AirTran would.
That authority is there solely to block the route. DOT should easily be justified in taking it away, but I wouldn't be surprised to see RJET attempt to announce service to attempt the block.
Quoting g500 (Reply 3): DEN-Cabo? Right into United territory,
I'd say it is more F9 territory. F9 has carried the bulk of this market for a while.
mariner From New Zealand, joined Nov 2001, 22870 posts, RR: 87 Reply 9, posted (7 months 2 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 528 times:
Quoting enilria (Reply 8): That authority is there solely to block the route. DOT should easily be justified in taking it away, but I wouldn't be surprised to see RJET attempt to announce service to attempt the block.
I think it should go through like butter. I don't think Republic has any grounds to make a fuss, but who knows? I learned long ago not to try and second guess BB.
I disagree that getting the authority was a "blocking move" but if that's what anyone thinks I won't argue the point.
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