ORDFan From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 232 posts, RR: 0 Reply 1, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 17000 times:
Beat me to it by a few minutes! Anyway, what's the story with UA's first 787? I don't think it will be a regular on ORD-IAH, correct? This is probably a showcase flight, but what cities will this bird most likely service?
dtw757 From United States of America, joined Oct 2003, 1415 posts, RR: 2 Reply 2, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 22 hours ago) and read 16847 times:
I believe the routing is IAH-ORD-IAH-LAX-IAH for this week until Friday that is When it's SFO instead of LAX. I will be on the IAH-SFO flight this Friday! SO EXCITED!
Newark727 From United States of America, joined Dec 2009, 1172 posts, RR: 0 Reply 5, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 21 hours ago) and read 15260 times:
Aww, man, it's going to be after sunset when it hits LAX.
Highflier92660 From United States of America, joined Apr 2004, 593 posts, RR: 0 Reply 6, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14571 times:
She flew up to ORD at FL410. The Boeing 787 is certified to 45,000 ft and with all that wing and low gross take-off weights on these domestic routes, I wonder if the United crews will fly her higher than 410. Certainly the higher cabin pressurization differential is up to it.
ANITIX87 From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 3233 posts, RR: 14 Reply 7, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 20 hours ago) and read 14095 times:
Quoting ORDFan (Reply 1): Anyway, what's the story with UA's first 787?
Once UA gets the second 787 on-site, they'll be running two W-routes for a few weeks to get crews accustomed to the aircraft and show it off. One airframe will so IAH-ORD-IAH-LAX-IAH daily and the other will do IAH-EWR-IAH-SFO-IAH daily. Once they get the third on-site and are ready to start international routes, the domestic flights will end.
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flightsimer From United States of America, joined Aug 2009, 409 posts, RR: 1 Reply 8, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 13782 times:
Dalavia From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 398 posts, RR: 1 Reply 12, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 13019 times:
I was on the flight in Economy Class, just a couple of rows back from Jeff Smisek who was also in Economy.
There was a great atmosphere on board with lots of aviation enthusiasts and folk from the industry. The flight was extremely smooth, and the impression inside was of a short A330 with better overhead bins. There were several negative comments about the window dimmers which are VERY slow to activate, don't dim the windows completely, and when the dimmer switch is activated it dims pairs of windows, not just the single window where the control switch is located.
We were given some nice souvenir certificates, but no food (normal United Economy snacks for sale etc).
Upon arrival at ORD there was a water canon salute as we came into the gate.
KELPkid From United States of America, joined Nov 2005, 5932 posts, RR: 4 Reply 14, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 8540 times:
Quoting Highflier92660 (Reply 6): She flew up to ORD at FL410. The Boeing 787 is certified to 45,000 ft and with all that wing and low gross take-off weights on these domestic routes, I wonder if the United crews will fly her higher than 410. Certainly the higher cabin pressurization differential is up to it.
I wonder. You hardly see domestic flights that high anyways, because above FL390 (IIRC), one flight crewmember is required by FAA regs to be wearing an oxygen mask at all times. The practical reason is because if you have a rapid decompression at that altitude, the time of useful consciousness is a matter of seconds, and they want someone conscious to initiate the emergency descent.
Before anyone from overseas pipes up, I know that this is only an FAA reg, and it is only applicable to N-registered aircraft...
Celebrating the birth of KELPkidJR on August 5, 2009 :-)
sccutler From United States of America, joined Jan 2000, 5091 posts, RR: 28 Reply 16, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 6956 times:
Man, that wing is a work of art!
(Mercy me, iOS autocorrect almost had me post something terribly embarrassing! Of. Art. Could have been bad news...)
...three miles from BRONS, clear for the ILS one five approach...
XFSUgimpLB41X From United States of America, joined Aug 2000, 3952 posts, RR: 36 Reply 18, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5542 times:
Quoting KELPkid (Reply 14):
I wonder. You hardly see domestic flights that high anyways, because above FL390 (IIRC), one flight crewmember is required by FAA regs to be wearing an oxygen mask at all times. The practical reason is because if you have a rapid decompression at that altitude, the time of useful consciousness is a matter of seconds, and they want someone conscious to initiate the emergency descent.
Above FL410 is where one crewmember has to have O2 on at all times. I had the 757 up to FL420 a couple times and one guy in the flight deck has to have the mask on. Not exactly fun!
tdscanuck From Canada, joined Jan 2006, 12709 posts, RR: 80 Reply 19, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 5339 times:
Quoting Dalavia (Reply 12): when the dimmer switch is activated it dims pairs of windows, not just the single window where the control switch is located.
That's part of the customer-specific cabin configuration. If United has it set up that way, it's because they asked Boeing to do that. Any sets of windows can be ganged together so that all the windows for a given seat move together. This is especially important in biz class where, otherwise, you'd have to get out of your seat to adjust 2 or 3 windows (as you have to do with manual shades). But there's no reason not to do it in economy class if they've got a layout with two windows per row.
Quoting Atlflyer (Reply 17): So are there window dimmers at every OTHER window and not under every individual window?
No, every window has a dimmer. Part of the cabin configuration is to gang windows together per the customer's request so that one dimmer may manipulate multiple windows (any dimmer switch in the set will move all windows in the set).
It sure is! It's one thing to see pictures of it, but you get a whole different appreciation for it when seeing it in person, not to mention the wing flex on approach. Very easy to spot.
Fiveholer From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 1009 posts, RR: 12 Reply 24, posted (6 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 629 times:
Woohoo, I'll be non-revving on 1243 today from IAH-LAX!
Bring back Bethune!
25 max550: It was an amazing flight. I was in row 17 right across the aisle from Smisek, that was very unexpected. I was actually more impressed with the window
26 NYCAAer: Smisek may have called the AA 763 a relic, but does he realize half of them will be retired starting 2014? And AA is introducing a FAR superior Busine
27 SonomaFlyer: Clearly they didn't feel a total redesign/revamp of the biz class was necessary at this point. The aircraft itself is a game changer and they are foc
28 NYCAAer: Interesting. Even DL's new Business Class seat for its 763 "relics" is a better product than this seat. I don't disagree, the 763 is an old battle ax
29 max550: It was an off the cuff remark. He knows AA is getting 787's but flying the 787 that day certainly did make everything else feel like old technology (
30 NYCAAer: AA and DL aren't using more space to give the passengers more room, they just make better use of the space. For example, on the new AA 77W, the seats
31 FriendlySkies: The pmCO business seats are also angled, but on the 787 they are in a 2-2-2 configuration, and on pmUA they manage to fit 2-4-2 in business and 1-2-1
32 max550: Got it. Is there anywhere to find out the number of square feet each business class seat takes up? It's so hard to tell how much space they actually
33 777STL: To be fair, it is. It's 30 year old technology at this point.
34 boilerla: Personally I don't mind the UA J class product. Maybe I just don't leave my seat that often, but the person next to me was only fully reclined for ab
35 max550: I know, it was funny because UA flies plenty of those "relics" themselves. I was just on one on Saturday. It's definitely roomier than the 767, more
36 NYCAAer: Well, it must been a pretty good seat if you were able to sleep most of the way to/from HKG! Personally, I sleep better without a stranger (snoring,
37 max550: Anyone know why UA1553 is being operated by a 762 today? That should be the 787 flight. Hopefully no more issues...
38 MaverickM11: Primarily because the new seat was supposed to coincide with the new plane 4 years ago
39 dtw757: It was scheduled to be a 762 today on the revised schedule http://airlineroute.net/2012/10/26/ua-787domestic-update2/
40 max550: Thanks, guess I should have checked that. I hadn't realized it wouldn't be operating on Tuesdays.
41 EagleBoy: Having been inside ZA003 a while back I think that is a pretty good description of the B788. That seems like a strange set-up to ask for: Playing wit
42 Fiveholer: I was pretty impressed by how dark the dimmers got since I had seen compaints about them. I was thinking it was dark out already until I looked up a f
43 MSPNWA: These first reports have me pretty excited for December. I have a pair of 787 window seats booked on a trip to IAH. Those dimmers look neat. Can't wai
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