spiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0 Posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 8 hours ago) and read 1882 times:
I was flying out of JFK on Saturday, Nov 3rd, on US Airways to CLT and, upon driving into the terminal, I looked over and was flabbergasted to see an Air Canada Q400 boarding for the 6:55am flight to YYZ!
So, I am very proud to announce that John F. Kennedy International Airport once again has scheduled passenger prop service!
Glad to see the new q400s of Air Canada coming to JFK and good to see prop service (pax anyway) back at JFK.
On a side note, it was cool to see the flight depart from runway 31R, while everybody else ws using 31L. I was able to watch it from the gate and watch it turn hard right and circle around to go north, before the end of the runway! Pretty cool sight!
connies4ever From Canada, joined Feb 2006, 4066 posts, RR: 14
Reply 1, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 4 days 7 hours ago) and read 1888 times:
Yes. this was announced in a media release a few weeks ago. AC can now offer more capacity at (likely) less cost to them. With the deployment of Q400s to Western Canada, also recently announced I think it likely that AC will acquire more.
Currently I believe Jazz have 15 and AC, through Sky Regional, either have or are committed to 21, and there are some options not yet taken up.
I thought the route was inaugurated in May with the Q400s, but I was wrong. Frequency has not changed since then (3x per day (AC's return to JFK since leaving in April 2009, when it ended service to YYC and YVR) but the Q400s have replaced the CRJ. Perhaps due to certification proceedings with Sky Regional?
(Interestingly enough, this service seems to be AC's first from YYZ to JFK for as long as I have records (1980).)
oksman From Brazil, joined Apr 2011, 120 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 19 hours ago) and read 1886 times:
That's right. I'm booked for JZA8905 on December 3rd and for my surprise I received this week an Itinerary Change from AC. I will love to fly the Q400 but I was let down as it would be my first flight also on a CRJ.
Actually JZA8905 is scheduled for 5:50pm not 5:40pm.
[Edited 2012-11-06 03:25:30]
As a side note, I would expect the Q400 to be slower than the CRJ. Interestngly though, arrival time is the same. Can someone explain that?
The cruising speed of the CRJ is 437 knots
The cruising speed of the Q400 is 360 knots.
So, the cruising speed difference isn't as drastic as one might think, but there is still a 77-knot difference.
The arrival times are probably due to schedule padding.
Hope this helps
**Just incase somebody here doesn't know what that is, schedule padding is when an airline lists a flight to be longer than it actually is, so if there are any minor delays (i.e. long taxi, late pushback (not too late) headwind, holding patterns), the flight won't be as late, so people who have to connect won't have tight connections.
Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 5): For the most part, LGA is a mainline station, so it does see some better planes than the CRJs (cough, cough, E-Jets)
The E175s are in the process of being transferred to Air Canada Express operated by Sky Regional Airlines. The majority of LGA ops are E175s, so over time LGA is becoming less and less of a mainline station. Although, I have operated a B767 into LGA.
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yyz717 From Canada, joined Sep 2001, 16525 posts, RR: 54
Reply 15, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1886 times:
Quoting connies4ever (Reply 1): Currently I believe Jazz have 15 and AC, through Sky Regional, either have or are committed to 21, and there are some options not yet taken up.
Jazz operates 15 Q400's (the original order for 15 are all in service now) and has 6 more on order (which will displace 9 CRJ-100's). In addition to YYZ-JFK, Jazz operates the Q400 on some weekend rotations YYZ-BOS.
SkyRegional operates 5 Q400's on just 2 routes: YUL-YTZ/YQM.
Jazz does not operate to YTZ. Air Georgian B1900's are frequently seen at YTZ operating corporate charters to Rouyn/ Noranda.
I dumped at the gybe mark in strong winds when I looked up at a Porter Q400 on finals. Can't stop spotting.
B6JFKH81 From United States of America, joined Mar 2006, 2951 posts, RR: 7
Reply 18, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 2 days 11 hours ago) and read 1884 times:
Quoting spiritair97 (Thread starter): On a side note, it was cool to see the flight depart from runway 31R, while everybody else ws using 31L. I was able to watch it from the gate and watch it turn hard right and circle around to go north, before the end of the runway! Pretty cool sight!
I remember a few years back when DL tried to flood JFK with DASH 8's, that's the departure pattern they used to take too. It was kinda neat to see. The endeavor, however, was short lived.
"If you do not learn from history, you are doomed to repeat it"
neveragain From , joined Dec 1969, posts, RR:
Reply 19, posted (3 years 6 months 3 weeks 1 day 22 hours ago) and read 1883 times:
Quoting RJLover (Reply 9): Nothing to do with Sky Regional. The route is flown by QK (Jazz).
Thank you for the correction. I associate "Express" with Sky Regional, and then I have to remind myself of the rebranding and reorganization of the regional services. Sad to see AC following the American example.