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User currently offlineogshelly From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 26 posts, RR: 0
Posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 870 times:

I will appreciate your recommendations, the one I have is not working properly: flight radar 24. Anything better by chance?

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User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 17 hours ago) and read 870 times:

Quoting ogshelly (Thread starter):

Try Planefinder. I use both on my IPhone and Planefinder seems to be closer to actual real time than FlightRadar24.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7595 posts, RR: 18
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 870 times:

Flightaware is ok, but it's not always up to date. FR24 works fine for me, when I have the wi-fi working and when I am in a good location. FR24 works in Tokyo so much better than in Phoenix.


次は、渋谷、渋谷。出口は、右側です。電車とホームの間は広く開いておりますので、足元に注意下さい。
User currently offlineogshelly From United States of America, joined Feb 2005, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks 16 hours ago) and read 870 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 1):

Thanks Audidudi! I'll try that.


User currently offline3MilesToWRO From Poland, joined Mar 2006, 280 posts, RR: 0
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks ago) and read 869 times:

What's wrong with Flightradar? I have it on Android and it's quite OK as far as I can see.

User currently offlinefn1001 From Moldova, joined Sep 2008, 234 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks ago) and read 869 times:

I have flightradar24 pro on my iPad3 and it works good when I am in western Europe and have a strong WiFi.

In Moldova and Rumania it depends on the connection to the internet too and the coverage of the sources.

On my phone (Android 2.3.3) I have the free version and it often used to crash, so I uninstalled it.



Mai bine să-ţi fie rău decît să-ţi pară rău.
User currently offlinegoosebayguy From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2009, 401 posts, RR: 0
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 3 weeks ago) and read 869 times:

Plane Finder works well for me too.

User currently offlinecapri From United Kingdom, joined Sep 2003, 449 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 23 hours ago) and read 869 times:

It all depends on people transmitting the data near the airport and how good their equipments are, and antennas high and clear from obstacle, it's all done by volunteers who enjoy this hobby, in less than decade, us enthusiasts we can listen to endless atc worldwide and track flights, so don't take it for granted, we came a long way

User currently offlineflyingbird From Sweden, joined Mar 2005, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 871 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 1):
Try Planefinder. I use both on my IPhone and Planefinder seems to be closer to actual real time than FlightRadar24.

FR24 is 100% real time, so I don't see how anything can be "closer to actual real time", than "real time"


User currently offlinevhqpa From Australia, joined Jul 2005, 1471 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 22 hours ago) and read 869 times:

I hear snowglobes work well








Sorry someone had to do it



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User currently offlineaudidudi From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 448 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 872 times:

Quoting flyingbird (Reply 8):

Well when I see an aircraft flying over my house here in No. California, the Planefinder App will show the aircraft as it is actually flying in the sky. The FlightRadar24 App is delayed about 1-2 mins, so even though both are supposed to be "real time", Planefinder is the more accurate of the two in showing the aircraft's actual position relative to where it is in the sky!


User currently offlineflyingbird From Sweden, joined Mar 2005, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 869 times:

Quoting audidudi (Reply 10):
Well when I see an aircraft flying over my house here in No. California, the Planefinder App will show the aircraft as it is actually flying in the sky. The FlightRadar24 App is delayed about 1-2 mins, so even though both are supposed to be "real time", Planefinder is the more accurate of the two in showing the aircraft's actual position relative to where it is in the sky!

ADS-B data on FR24 is 100% real time. I have checked at least 100 times last 3 years. FAA data on FR24 is delayed by 5 minutes and this delay is made by FAA, so I guess there is not much FR24 can do about it.

ADS-B data on Planefinder is about 10-30 seconds delayed, and planefinder are making some kind of strange position estimations that are far from correct. They continue to plot aircraft in a straight line for about 30 minutes after lost ADS-B coverage. That gives a feeling of Planefinder having better coverage, but it's fake. You can see that on several locations, for example southern Spain, where aircraft bound to Malaga continue their flights for 30 minutes so they end up in Africa. FAA data on Planefinder is delayed 5 minutes as well, but Planefinder is moving aircraft forward 2-3 minutes, so it gives a feeling of the FAA data being almost real time, but once again it's fake. The estimated aircraft positions are not correct, so if you observe FAA data landings on a US airport, the aircraft often jumps around in circles or just continues past the airport, because Planefinder is correcting incorrect position estimations.

So first impression is that Planefinder have more and faster data, but much is just estimations that are not correct. That is why I recommend FR24 that only shows real transponder data, and not incorrect estimations.


User currently offlineflyingbird From Sweden, joined Mar 2005, 165 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 21 hours ago) and read 869 times:

This is an example of the result moving the an aircraft forward (from the 5 minute delayed FAA data) about 3 minutes forward in a straight line, to estimate the current position. The result is that Planefinder draws the aircraft past the airport where it was supposed to land (and still it's on FL78 with 272 kts).

http://i45.tinypic.com/34s57ut.png


And here is a screenshot from FR24 at the same moment. The data is 5 minutes delayed but at least it's correct.

http://i49.tinypic.com/35jmeck.png


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