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Where Are U Airlines Getting An A380 From?  
User currently offlinescouseflyer From United Kingdom, joined Apr 2006, 3390 posts, RR: 9
Posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 6 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Thai startup U airlines, which are currently operating a single A320 and have a second on the way, are looking to expand rapidly and by the end of the next year have 18 planes in their fleet including an A380!

http://www.bangkokpost.com/business/...028/u-airlines-reaches-for-the-sky


I wonder who would lease them an A380 at that short notice, perhaps Airbus themselvves with MSN002 as that order looks in jeopardy now or Air Austral who can't afford the two that they've ordered?

This all sounds a bit bonkers to me but an A380 in that orange livery would be some sight 

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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9404 posts, RR: 29
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 6 days 4 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

The last carrier that had a "Big Orange" in its fleet did not survive the expansion.

They should make a U turn and think expansion over.



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User currently offlineThomas_Jaeger From Switzerland, joined Apr 2002, 2388 posts, RR: 28
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 15 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

I would first say that it would most probably be best to see if they even manage to really launch domestic scheduled flights to compete with all of the other carriers in the market place. They have said they first want to launch flights to Chiang Mai and Phuket.

To CNX, Thai Airways has 11 daily flights, Thai AirAsia 9, Bangkok Airways 6, Nok Air 6 and Orient Thai 2.
To HKT, Thai Airways has 9 daily flights, Thai AirAsia 9, Bangkok Airways 7, Nok Air 2 and Orient Thai 2.

There is absolutely zero need for additional capacity and on the Phuket route for example, Nok Air already had to cut quite a bit of capacity, yet totally irrational start-ups like Thai Regional Airlines felt there was a need to put another 9-10 daily A320 flights in the market using amateurish sales techniques (fixed price model at way too low prices including 40 kg of baggage etc.) and now U Airlines wants to join the party.

I think despite the latest tourism boom in Thailand there is a bit of a bubble in the airline sector now with all of these start-ups and expansion plans recently. Since I live there part of my time, I have covered that quite extensively on my website in a very fair manner, but I do not think any of the plans below will work out anywhere close to what is stated in public:
U Airlines: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...stic-scheduled-flights-in-thailand
Mastertech Aviation: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...i-domestic-flights-from-udon-thani
Thai Regional Airlines: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...plans-a320-200-domestic-operations
Kan Air: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...-pangan-island-add-bigger-aircraft
R Airlines: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...-200er-for-bangkok-frankfurt-route
Legacy Air: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...up-legacy-air-adds-first-saab-340a
Chaba Airlines: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...akes-delivery-of-ex-lufthansa-a340
City Airways: http://www.ch-aviation.ch/portal/new...ched-by-thai-start-up-city-airways

These are just the last couple of months. I do not quite believe we will see much of that really happening for an extended period of time.

One small anecdote is that the founder of U Airlines named his first aircraft after himself, so I guess it also is a little bit of "I Airlines" than just all about "you"  .

[Edited 2012-11-07 18:32:22]


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User currently offlineRickNRoll From Afghanistan, joined Jan 2012, 830 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

They will get it the same place they got their pony from last Christmas.

User currently offlinejetblueguy22 From United States of America, joined Nov 2007, 2798 posts, RR: 4
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2096 times:
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Now that is quite the ambitious plan. Let's say they could get their hands on an A380 tomorrow. How the heck do they plan on filling it when they were basically put together overnight? Something tells me if some major airlines are having trouble filling widebodies these guys don't stand a chance....
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User currently offlineloveofflying From Canada, joined Jan 2007, 105 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 14 hours ago) and read 2094 times:

Nuts!!! Why get an A380? What routes?


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User currently onlineStitch From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 31011 posts, RR: 86
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 13 hours ago) and read 2094 times:
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Quoting scouseflyer (Thread starter):
I wonder who would lease them an A380 at that short notice?

TG?   


User currently offlinefrancoflier From France, joined Oct 2001, 3766 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

They're in a phase now where they need to sweet talk a lot of people into lending them money.

Throwing the word 'A380' into an investment pitch is bound to gather attention...
They'll be lucky to make it through next year, let alone profitably operating widebodies.

All the best, though. Gotta love optimism.



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User currently offlinePanHAM From Germany, joined May 2005, 9404 posts, RR: 29
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Quoting francoflier (Reply 7):
Throwing the word 'A380' into an investment pitch is bound to gather attention...

it rather tells each serious analyst or risk manager to throw them out of the office.



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User currently offlineBoeing777300 From North Korea, joined Jan 2004, 26 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 9 hours ago) and read 2093 times:

Maybe they could get one on the cheap from China Southern, if they are having trouble finding a use for them   


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User currently offlineTC957 From UK - England, joined May 2012, 877 posts, RR: 0
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 5 days 8 hours ago) and read 2095 times:

Sounds like another Phuket Air in the making.....

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