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Delta Upgauging MSY-JFK  
User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 17 hours ago) and read 1138 times:

Nothing earth shattering here but it's nice to see DL add more seats in the market.

The MSY-JFK goes from a CR9 to a 319 in mid February. All MSY-LGA flights are operated with 319's as well.

I don't know about you but I'll take a 319 over a CR9 any day of the week...

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User currently offlineSean-SAN- From United States of America, joined Aug 2002, 770 posts, RR: 1
Reply 1, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1138 times:

Why? The A319 has four fewer F seats.

User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 2, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1139 times:

Quoting Sean-SAN- (Reply 1):
Why? The A319 has four fewer F seats.

I'm hardly ever in F when I fly, and I find the CR9 cabins pretty tight for anything over 1h30m...2 hours max.

I feel sorry for the poor souls who will endure JFK-SAT on the CR9 starting in February. Block time is 4h47m.


User currently offlinedavescj From United States of America, joined Jun 2007, 2307 posts, RR: 0
Reply 3, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1143 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 2):
I feel sorry for the poor souls who will endure JFK-SAT on the CR9 starting in February. Block time is 4h47m.

That is a long flight in Y if you 're in a CRJ 900. It would not be too bad in F. And, I am guessing that route would have reasonable upgradeability for any medallions.

Dave



Can I have a mojito on this flight?
User currently offlinechrisair From United States of America, joined Sep 2000, 2116 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Quoting Sean-SAN- (Reply 1):
Why? The A319 has four fewer F seats.

No it doesn't. Both have 12 seats in F.

The CR9 is 4 rows of 1x2 whereas the A319 is 3 rows of 2x2. Row 1 on the CR9 is quite nice--it's actually not bad on the A319 either since there are cutouts in the bulkhead.

The only difference is the F--Y ratio. The CR9 is definitely better for upgrades than the 319.


User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3471 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 16 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

This is what a.net has become. A whole thread to say a route is going from a CR9 to a 319?

User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 6, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 5):
This is what a.net has become. A whole thread to say a route is going from a CR9 to a 319?

I've been posting things of this sort since 1999. If the title doesn't interest you, by all means don't read it.


User currently offlineSuper80DFW From United States of America, joined Oct 2007, 1694 posts, RR: 11
Reply 7, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 15 hours ago) and read 1143 times:

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 5):
This is what a.net has become. A whole thread to say a route is going from a CR9 to a 319?

Mad that MSYtristar posted about it before you got the chance? If you have a complaint, Site Related is the place for it.

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 2):
I feel sorry for the poor souls who will endure JFK-SAT on the CR9 starting in February. Block time is 4h47m.

That's a mighty long flight in a CRJ-900.. Wasn't that route previously operated with an A319, last summer I recall?

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
I don't know about you but I'll take a 319 over a CR9 any day of the week...

Me too!! Anything mainline over regional!



"Things change, friends leave, life doesn't stop for anybody." -- EAT'EM UP EAT'EM UP KSU!!
User currently offlinejporterfi From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 445 posts, RR: 0
Reply 8, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 2):
I feel sorry for the poor souls who will endure JFK-SAT on the CR9 starting in February. Block time is 4h47m.

And I thought that ATL-DEN on a OO CR7 was long (about 3.5 hrs). I still enjoyed it though; I'll take every chance I get to fly on a CRJ (all variants) because I fly mainline much more often than regional.


User currently offlineslcdeltarumd11 From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3471 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 6):
I've been posting things of this sort since 1999. If the title doesn't interest you, by all means don't read it.


LOL im clearly not mad i was just kidding lets be honest here a thread to say a plane has been upsized so little is just kind of funny. Do you realize how many threads just like this we could start constantly? Its not like its a new route or a major upgauge. How many 320/319 fly in.out of MSY daily.........Look if it were an upgrade to a plane like a plane like a 757 or 767 or something more unusual for MSY or an airport i could see it but this just seems like a thread we could start like 500 of a month if we wanted to when schedules update.


User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4471 posts, RR: 7
Reply 10, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
The MSY-JFK goes from a CR9 to a 319 in mid February.

Thanks for posting this! Always good to see news like this.


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 11, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 14 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 9):
LOL im clearly not mad i was just kidding lets be honest here a thread to say a plane has been upsized so little is just kind of funny. Do you realize how many threads just like this we could start constantly? Its not like its a new route or a major upgauge. How many 320/319 fly in.out of MSY daily.........Look if it were an upgrade to a plane like a plane like a 757 or 767 or something more unusual for MSY or an airport i could see it but this just seems like a thread we could start like 500 of a month if we wanted to when schedules update.

Yeah I realize that. I thought it would be of interest to fans of MSY because it shows DL's continuing commitment to the market. Also, for me anyway, it's nice to see ANY route get switched from regional to mainline. In the past it's been the other way around.

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 7):
That's a mighty long flight in a CRJ-900.. Wasn't that route previously operated with an A319, last summer I recall?

I think it's still a 319 right now. Looks like it goes to a CR9 in February.

Quoting N62NA (Reply 10):
Thanks for posting this! Always good to see news like this.

No problem!


User currently offlineBDL757 From United States of America, joined Apr 2012, 152 posts, RR: 0
Reply 12, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Upgauges to mainline are always good news! This is a perfect route for the A319. The A319/A320 have been used a lot in the NYC market lately as far as upguages. This is mainly because DL wants to keep the 319/320 fleet off long flights due to the lack of inflight entertainment. A couple of days ago they started using an A319 on LGA-PIT for the last flight of the night!

User currently offlineclrd4t8koff From United States of America, joined Mar 2005, 225 posts, RR: 0
Reply 13, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 13 hours ago) and read 1143 times:

Quoting N62NA (Reply 10):
Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
The MSY-JFK goes from a CR9 to a 319 in mid February.

Thanks for posting this! Always good to see news like this.

I couldn't agree more. I, unlike a lot of the folks on this site, don't have the time to be constantly studying timetables and/or upgauges. So when someone else does it I appreciate it. And as stated earlier, it's CLEAR in the title of the post what it's about and if it holds no value for you, DON'T READ IT. Over time this site has turned more into people chastising and criticizing posts for everything from relevancy to lingo and has taken all the fun out of what this site is supposed to be. People - RELAX!


User currently offlineNWADTWE16 From United States of America, joined Jun 2012, 242 posts, RR: 0
Reply 14, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 12 hours ago) and read 1143 times:

I think this thread also brings up the current very real question of 'What the he** is going on with RJ's in long flight stages'??? Its sickening to think about putting your passengers on tiny tubes for over 2.5 hours...they werent meant for that. I guess you could argue they were possibly meant for that given the distance they can fly on full tanks but its become rediculous (hence the other thread about all the RJ's in the U.S.) . Great thread, keep it up =)

User currently offlinemodesto2 From United States of America, joined Jul 2000, 2801 posts, RR: 5
Reply 15, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Quoting BDL757 (Reply 12):
A couple of days ago they started using an A319 on LGA-PIT for the last flight of the night!

DL sends many mainline a/c to outstations for RONs to alleviate the overnight parking constraints at LGA. Even if the flight's performance doesn't justify the upgauge, the a/c need to park somewhere.


User currently offlineN62NA From United States of America, joined Aug 2003, 4471 posts, RR: 7
Reply 16, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 11 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Quoting NWADTWE16 (Reply 14):
'What the he** is going on with RJ's in long flight stages'??? Its sickening to think about putting your passengers on tiny tubes for over 2.5 hours..

Generally accepted a.net wisdom is: A seat in coach is a seat in coach. Absolutely no difference in the flying "experience" at all whether it's 3 hours on an RJ or 3 hours on a 763.

I of course don't agree!


User currently offlinespiritair97 From United States of America, joined Jan 2011, 1231 posts, RR: 0
Reply 17, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 8 hours ago) and read 1140 times:

I'm very happy to hear JFK service being upguaged, too! It seems that with the whole "LGA hubbing", JFK hasn't been feeling the love from DL for domestic service.

Quoting slcdeltarumd11 (Reply 5):

That's what this thread is for. Letting us aviation geeks know what's going on in the aviation world.

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):

I go regional as much as I can as well! I fly US Airways from JFK to MYR instead of NK direct for a few reasons, but one of the biggest ones is because I am SO TIRED of a320 family aircraft (besides the a321). I LOVE LOVE LOVE the CRJs! Especially when I get the upgrade to first class.  
Quoting BDL757 (Reply 12):

They also used the 319 on LGA-PWM for a while this summer! Talk about an "underdog" route!


User currently offlineakelley728 From United States of America, joined Dec 1999, 2193 posts, RR: 5
Reply 18, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 6 hours ago) and read 1142 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Thread starter):
The MSY-JFK goes from a CR9 to a 319 in mid February. All MSY-LGA flights are operated with 319's as well.

That's great to hear. I'm curious as to the exact date for JFK flight, though. I would have thought with the Super Bowl coming to New Orleans on Feb 3 that the upguage would happen before that.

Even if it doesn't happen before the Super bowl, it will be there in time for Mardi Gras.

Quoting spiritair97 (Reply 17):
I'm very happy to hear JFK service being upguaged, too! It seems that with the whole "LGA hubbing", JFK hasn't been feeling the love from DL for domestic service.

I agree - it's nice to have some variety out of MSY. I hope Delta times the flight so it can easily connect to other flights out of JFK, I would like to see some "hubbing" out of JFK as well!


User currently offlinePictionaryMan From United States of America, joined Oct 2012, 7 posts, RR: 0
Reply 19, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days 1 hour ago) and read 1141 times:

Great News! Thanks for posting, I find this information very informative.

User currently offlinerwy04lga From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 3176 posts, RR: 8
Reply 20, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 3 days ago) and read 1141 times:

Quoting MSYtristar (Reply 6):
I've been posting things of this sort since 1999.

Joining in August 2005?

Quoting Super80DFW (Reply 7):
Me too!! Anything mainline over regional!

The E-175 is nice!

Quoting N62NA (Reply 16):
Absolutely no difference in the flying "experience" at all whether it's 3 hours on an RJ or 3 hours on a 763.

I of course don't agree!

Understandable opinion coming from a National DC-10.



Just accept that some days, you're the pigeon, and other days the statue
User currently offlinejfklganyc From United States of America, joined Jan 2004, 3484 posts, RR: 5
Reply 21, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 22 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

JFK-MSY is mainly leisure and connectors, and can fill up a mainline jet.

Larger jets have lower seat costs in a price sensitive market. You are starting to see this in a lot of NYC markets: JFK-BOS, LGA-JAX, LGA-PIT


User currently offlineMSYtristar From United States of America, joined Aug 2005, 6570 posts, RR: 50
Reply 22, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 21 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Quoting rwy04lga (Reply 20):
Joining in August 2005?

I cancelled my account in August 2005, and rejoined the next day. So it doesn't show it, but I've been around. Some of the old school folks on here probably remember me.

Quoting akelley728 (Reply 18):
That's great to hear. I'm curious as to the exact date for JFK flight, though. I would have thought with the Super Bowl coming to New Orleans on Feb 3 that the upguage would happen before that.

Even if it doesn't happen before the Super bowl, it will be there in time for Mardi Gras.

I think it starts on the 11th. About a week after the Super Bowl.


User currently offlineB727FA From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 23, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Quoting Sean-SAN- (Reply 1):
Why? The A319 has four fewer F seats.

Nope. 12 in each.



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User currently offlineB727FA From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 764 posts, RR: 0
Reply 24, posted (1 year 10 months 2 weeks 2 days 19 hours ago) and read 1141 times:

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 8):
I still enjoyed it though; I'll take every chance I get to fly on a CRJ (all variants) because I fly mainline much more often than regional.

Here is perhaps the winner of the "One and Only" Award!   



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25 laca773 : It sounds like routes i.e., JFK-SAT are downgauged during the slowest time of the year when the demand is not there for a A319. . I bet this route wil
26 lhcvg : Not when it's a CRJ! Jungle Jets are bearable more than CR2s, CR7s and CR9s are ok, and E-Jets are very nice or even better than mainline according t
27 Post contains links B727FA : E jets are as near a ML product you can have on a "connection" product. I dare say but for some airlines flying them as "regional" and others flying t
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