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DL Domestic 763 Returns To PHX  
User currently offline1337Delta764 From United States of America, joined Oct 2005, 6488 posts, RR: 2
Posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

Looking at DL's current schedules, it looks like DL is running a domestic 763 on one of the daily PHX-ATL flights from now until November 26. This seems a bit surprising; PHX hasn't seen any domestic widebody service in quite some time. Is there any particular reason why is DL running a domestic 763 on the route?


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User currently offlineasqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 615 posts, RR: 0
Reply 1, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 15 hours ago) and read 1424 times:

Because we usually get one this time of year, or at least Delta has done it for the last four years I have been working here in Phoenix. We also often get one on a scheduled basis in February/March but it doesn't stick around too long then either. Now those nasty 757-300s on the other hand...

User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 930 posts, RR: 1
Reply 2, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 13 hours ago) and read 1424 times:

Winter visitors flying back to PHX and thanksgiving travel. It is nice change of scenery.

Quoting asqx (Reply 1):
Now those nasty 757-300s on the other hand...

I have nothing against the 757-300 but I would rather work a 767-300 over a 757-300 hands down.

I have talked about the return of the 763 to PHX here:
Phoenix Aviation Thread Part 3 (by PHX787 Oct 21 2012 in Civil Aviation)

[Edited 2012-11-08 15:23:30]


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User currently offlinecrownvic From United States of America, joined Oct 2004, 1898 posts, RR: 5
Reply 3, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

My post got deleted on a similar subject, but I was checking DL's 763 schedule too and because I did not mention the source, away the post went. Anyway, now that I have mentioned I saw it on their schedule, in addition to the regular LAS-ATL route that has 763's, they are also running them LAS-MSP and LAS-DTW too. Obviously, it appears as these a/c are coming back on line more, they are running them on winter high volumes routes.

User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7434 posts, RR: 17
Reply 4, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

As discussed on the PHX thread, I'm flying on this route coming back from CVG/ATL after thanksgiving. DL always sends one here this time of year to cover the dreaded snowbirds   

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 2):
I have nothing against the 757-300 but I would rather work a 767-300 over a 757-300 hands down.

I remember two 753 flights getting cancelled at PHX, prompting DL to send a 744 to cover those two flights to DTW.



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User currently offlineasqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 615 posts, RR: 0
Reply 5, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 2 days 3 hours ago) and read 1423 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 4):
I remember two 753 flights getting cancelled at PHX, prompting DL to send a 744 to cover those two flights to DTW.

Actually it was one 757-300 flight being cancelled and the second one getting swapped to a 747-400 (which itself ended up being oversold). But it was not pleasant dealing with the 220 passengers from the first flight when there wasn't any way to get them out of town for days on any airline.


User currently offlinePHX787 From Japan, joined Mar 2012, 7434 posts, RR: 17
Reply 6, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 16 hours ago) and read 1422 times:

Quoting asqx (Reply 5):
Actually it was one 757-300 flight being cancelled and the second one getting swapped to a 747-400 (which itself ended up being oversold). But it was not pleasant dealing with the 220 passengers from the first flight when there wasn't any way to get them out of town for days on any airline.

DAMN! Overselling a Domestic 744 route out of PHX....anyone wanna bring back the days where widebodies always did domestic routes to the hubs? 

If DL so wished, they could possibly do this route easily with a 744 by shedding the 753 flight  



次は、渋谷、渋谷。出口は、右側です。電車とホームの間は広く開いておりますので、足元に注意下さい。
User currently offlinedlramp4life From United States of America, joined Jun 2011, 930 posts, RR: 1
Reply 7, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

I hope hope hope the 763 can stay longer then just in November and March


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 8, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 13 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

Quoting dlramp4life (Reply 2):
I have nothing against the 757-300 but I would rather work a 767-300 over a 757-300 hands down.

Do your 753's have the magic carpet like the sCO aircraft do?



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User currently offlinejporterfi From United States of America, joined Feb 2012, 443 posts, RR: 0
Reply 9, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

Quoting PHX787 (Reply 6):
DAMN! Overselling a Domestic 744 route out of PHX....anyone wanna bring back the days where widebodies always did domestic routes to the hubs? 

   This is the one reason that I have against U.S. airlines preferring frequency over capacity: no domestic 744s! I wish DL would slash a 763 and a 752 from the ATL-LAX route and put a 744 in their place! But I know that will never happen; I'm lucky enough to have flown that route on a 77L.


User currently offlineKDTWflyer From United States of America, joined Jun 2004, 828 posts, RR: 1
Reply 10, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

Remember when NWA flew B744s between MSP-PHX for crew familiarization flights? I would love DTW-PHX on a B763 or any widebody for that matter. I flew DTW-PHX on a DC-10-40, N148US, back in 2001. Those were nice days.


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User currently offlineNWAESC From United States of America, joined Aug 2007, 3386 posts, RR: 9
Reply 11, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 1 day 9 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 8):
Do your 753's have the magic carpet like the sCO aircraft do?

Yes.



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User currently offlinetreebeard787 From United States of America, joined Jul 2005, 658 posts, RR: 1
Reply 12, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 22 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

Quoting KDTWflyer (Reply 10):
I would love DTW-PHX on a B763 or any widebody for that matter. I flew DTW-PHX on a DC-10-40, N148US, back in 2001. Those were nice days.

I used to fly on NW DC-10-40s on PHX-MSP all the time right up to when they were replaced. I can remember when PHX would get as many as 4-5 DC-10s from NW every day right up to late 2001 early 2002.



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User currently offlineLGA777 From United States of America, joined Jul 2003, 1149 posts, RR: 19
Reply 13, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 21 hours ago) and read 1421 times:

Quoting KDTWflyer (Reply 10):
Remember when NWA flew B744s between MSP-PHX for crew familiarization flights?

Yes they also did MSP-MCO and MSP-LAX. I went out to PHX just to take my first 744 ride (their were only two operating in the world) and it was great. The upper deck was not in use but mid-way between PHX and MSP while talking with the friendly crew after realizing how far I had come (NYC) just to joy ride on their new bird I was invited up to the empty upper deck for the remainder of the flight as well as the Flight Deck once we landed in MSP, such a cool flight. Rather than connect to the nonstop 757 to LGA I opted to connect in DTW DC-1O-40 to a ex Republic 727-200 still with the RP interior. What a great day, my favorite NW trip.

Cheers

LGA777

[Edited 2012-11-10 07:46:30]

User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 14, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1420 times:

Quoting NWAESC (Reply 11):

Then what's the big deal?



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User currently offlineaztrainer From United States of America, joined Oct 2011, 576 posts, RR: 1
Reply 15, posted (1 year 9 months 3 weeks 13 hours ago) and read 1420 times:

Quoting KDTWflyer (Reply 10):
Remember when NWA flew B744s between MSP-PHX for crew familiarization flights? I would love DTW-PHX on a B763 or any widebody for that matter. I flew DTW-PHX on a DC-10-40, N148US, back in 2001. Those were nice days.

Yep, I also remember a disastrous flight from HNL to PHX via LAX. The LAX flight was late and our PHX flight left 20 minutes before we arrived. Well it was the last flight and we had to spend the night at LAX. Well, my father was so mad at UA that we flew the first flight out of LAX to get a connection to PHX. We flew from LAX to LAS and then transferred to TWA for our flight back to PHX. Well we flew a L-1011 from LAS to PHX.

Quoting jporterfi (Reply 9):
This is the one reason that I have against U.S. airlines preferring frequency over capacity: no domestic 744s! I wish DL would slash a 763 and a 752 from the ATL-LAX route and put a 744 in their place! But I know that will never happen; I'm lucky enough to have flown that route on a 77L.

This is one of the things that I have never understood from US carriers. Especially from larger airports. LAX, JFK, ATL ect . . It would seem that one 777 would be a better cost measure than two 757's and a 737 (or so).


User currently offlineasqx From United States of America, joined Jun 1999, 615 posts, RR: 0
Reply 16, posted (1 year 9 months 2 weeks 6 days 18 hours ago) and read 1419 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 14):
Then what's the big deal?

200 passengers in rows 14 through 48 and only one rather narrow aisle. That and the incessent whining from the flight attendants as well as all the complaints from passengers sitting in rows 35+ complaining about that 35 minute connection in MSP they booked.


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