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B6 Pilot Osbon To Be Freed From Jail  
User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

Looks like B6 pilot Osbon will be released from jail soon. No word if he will fly again but a part if the release order states he his not allowed to be on or around commercial aircraft and not allowed to communicate with the pax that he had his meltdown on.

Source: http://www.sfgate.com/business/bloom...-Ordered-Released-From-4023533.php


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User currently onlinetype-rated From United States of America, joined Sep 1999, 4957 posts, RR: 19
Reply 1, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 9 hours ago) and read 1561 times:

I guess Amtrak and the bus lines will be getting his business.


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User currently offlinemayor From United States of America, joined Mar 2008, 10351 posts, RR: 14
Reply 2, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1561 times:

Heck of a way to lose your pass benefits...  


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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 3, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1561 times:

The article also stated that his freak episode was caused by sleep deprivation. Not sure yet if I buy that argument. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity. I'm surprised they're releasing Osbon so soon.


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User currently offlineRDH3E From United States of America, joined Mar 2011, 1614 posts, RR: 3
Reply 4, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 3):
The article also stated that his freak episode was caused by sleep deprivation. Not sure yet if I buy that argument. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity. I'm surprised they're releasing Osbon so soon.

Could be "temporary insanity" or some such defense. I'm no lawyer, but that is what it sounds like.


User currently offlineMaverick623 From United States of America, joined Nov 2006, 5570 posts, RR: 6
Reply 5, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days 8 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Thread starter):
No word if he will fly again

It's more likely he'll be struck by lightning than ever getting a first-class medical.



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User currently offlinewjcandee From United States of America, joined Jun 2000, 5128 posts, RR: 22
Reply 6, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 2 days ago) and read 1559 times:

This was by all accounts a good guy -- indeed a well-regarded guy at B6 -- whose circuits went haywire.

Whether it was sleep deprivation or not, we'll probably never really know. Assuming that it is, we aren't talking about not getting a good night's rest; to bring on this level of psychosis, we're talking about being up for days and days straight. Early in my career, I was good for 36 hours without too much degradation of my reasoning ability, but by the morning of the second day, I would usually have a little trouble maintaining a clear line of thought, unless I was just completely-adrenalined-out. A little catnap for an hour here and there made a world of difference. Young doctors, who do find ways to get those catnaps, will pull 48 hours on no problem. It's a personal thing, of course, but it's hard to imagine that this guy wasn't well beyond that to become completely-detached from reality.

And this then raises questions about judgment, responsibility, etc. that are or should be career-enders. Which is really too bad. I hope he is able to get a lot of counseling to retool himself for what hopefully will be a fulfilling life outside what was his lifelong path.


User currently offlineATCtower From United States of America, joined Dec 2007, 539 posts, RR: 3
Reply 7, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

Quoting AirframeAS (Thread starter):
No word if he will fly again

Ha, I can give a bit of word... He wont fly Part 121 again.

Quoting AirframeAS (Reply 3):
The article also stated that his freak episode was caused by sleep deprivation. Not sure yet if I buy that argument. He was found not guilty by reason of insanity. I'm surprised they're releasing Osbon so soon.

Lawyers are damn good at deferring blame!

Quoting Maverick623 (Reply 5):
It's more likely he'll be struck by lightning than ever getting a first-class medical.

I know we are given psych evals and while you arent even for a 3rd class, I do recall being asked if you have ever been charged with a crime and I cant imagine a flight surgeon who would sign off no matter the legal maneuvering.

Quoting wjcandee (Reply 6):
This was by all accounts a good guy -- indeed a well-regarded guy at B6 -- whose circuits went haywire.

I agree and thats likely why he was released from jail. I certainly wouldnt want him flying my plane and understand temporary lapses in sanity/judgement, that alone shouldnt be enough to keep him in jail for a long time.

My $.02



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User currently offlineJAAlbert From United States of America, joined Jan 2006, 1556 posts, RR: 1
Reply 8, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 23 hours ago) and read 1559 times:

The thread title is not accurate. Captain Osbon was not imprisoned or jailed after being found not guilty by reason of insanity. Rather, he was sent to a mental health facility in Ft. Worth for treatment. After a recent psychological evaluation in North Carolina, the federal court ordered him released with various conditions.

The article states that a friend, who still works for JetBlue, is driving Captain Osbon back to his home. I find that touching and an indication that this man has some folks who will help him get back on his feet. I wish this pilot success in his new endeavors.


User currently offlinexdlx From United States of America, joined Aug 2008, 631 posts, RR: 1
Reply 9, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 15 hours ago) and read 1560 times:

Remember Colgan, the specifics not being known.... Glad it happened on the ground!

User currently offlinelightsaber From United States of America, joined Jan 2005, 12903 posts, RR: 100
Reply 10, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 11 hours ago) and read 1560 times:
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Quoting AirframeAS (Thread starter):
No word if he will fly again but a part if the release order states he his not allowed to be on or around commercial aircraft and not allowed to communicate with the pax that he had his meltdown on.

Ummm... not known if he will fly but he is not allowed on commercial aircraft? That rather limits his future employer field.

Quoting mayor (Reply 2):
Heck of a way to lose your pass benefits...

  

Quoting ATCtower (Reply 7):
I certainly wouldnt want him flying my plane and understand temporary lapses in sanity/judgement, that alone shouldnt be enough to keep him in jail for a long time.

Agreed, but keep him off commercial aircraft. He will have to find a new profession.

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User currently offlineAirframeAS From United States of America, joined Feb 2004, 14150 posts, RR: 24
Reply 11, posted (1 year 8 months 3 weeks 1 day 5 hours ago) and read 1558 times:

Quoting JAAlbert (Reply 8):
The thread title is not accurate. Captain Osbon was not imprisoned or jailed after being found not guilty by reason of insanity. Rather, he was sent to a mental health facility in Ft. Worth for treatment.

He was still in Federal custody, hence he's still "locked up". The thread title is fine. It's still considered as being in jail.

Quoting ATCtower (Reply 7):
Ha, I can give a bit of word... He wont fly Part 121 again.

That's very likely but we don't know that yet.

Quoting ATCtower (Reply 7):
Lawyers are damn good at deferring blame!

I don't think the lawyers here are deferring blame.....at all.

Quoting ATCtower (Reply 7):
I do recall being asked if you have ever been charged with a crime and I cant imagine a flight surgeon who would sign off no matter the legal maneuvering.

According to the article I provided, his psych eval is sealed by the court, so if he's asked about his mental health, he doesn't have to disclose it I don't think. Now, if they were not sealed by the court, then he would need to disclose his health records.



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